What's worse being raped? or being falsely accused of rape?

[LordZuko]

U CANT COMPARE THE TWO...

you can compare anything,

it's a debate....they both are about rape... so we're having a discussion

You really can't compare this. They are both definitely violations of your life. One is a violation of the most personal intimate level though, and I'm sure most men can't relate to having your body physically being forced inside of. As I'm sure as women most of us can't relate to having a false rape charge against you. One's a lot more likely to happen than the other though.

The majority of rape victims are men. Females just like to pretend they are the world's biggest victims.

 

[count remy]

One of those texas teachers getting at me would be substantially better for me than one of them claiming that I got at her. I'd somehow learn to live with the trauma and try every day to become a better person for it.

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

One of those texas teachers getting at me would be substantially better for me than one of them claiming that I got at her. I'd somehow learn to live with the trauma and try every day to become a better person for it.

What about Caitlyn Jenner? Would you rather be accused of rape by Caitlyn or raped by him?

Or her?

 

[CashmoneyDux]

Agenda thread

 

[Trillfate]

Im shocked at the poll results

 

[Trillfate]

The only way that this argument has any validity is if the falsely accused does real time behind it, or is physically punished to the point where the injuries are life changing.

A judge telling you you're about to do 12 calendars for no reason is the only other soul scorching act that could jump with actually being raped.

Just an accusation though? Get the fuck outta here, it ain't close.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/21016808/false-rape-claims-devastating-say-wrongly-accused
http://www.slate.com/articles/doubl...ns_why_must_be_pretend_they_never_happen.html
http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/08/rocks...mpact-of-wrongful-accusation-of-rape-5739448/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/son-12-how-can-rapist-7639672
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/yes-false-accusations-destroy-lives/article/2557145

here's some reading material. What you're saying and the way the real world works ain't in alignment.

Not reading because i'm not changing my mind. My world don't gotta be like everybody elses. Certain things are just closed discussions with me doc. The only thing that could even it out is real punishment for something you didn't do. Outside of that, an accusation is just that. I can keep it movin off that. But the actual rape, i'm gonna want blood to be shed. Period.

#Bars

 

[konceptjones]

This shit is in no way the same. Being accused of rape is not much different than being accused of any crime falsely. There is no equivalence to rape.

naw bruh, niggaz ain't gonna wish death on you for stealing a car.....

if people think you're a child molester, or think you're a rapist,......the worse comes outta people....

Niggas ain't wishing death on rapists either. A molester...yeah but rapists get all kinds of benefit of the doubt.

Stop this shit.

Ok... So let's clear this up a bit:

Rape is forced sexual penetration.

Molestation is non-consensual touching without penetration of any form, but is limited to the victim being a child.

Sexual assault is the same as molestation, but with the victim being an adult.

In other words, when a child is molested it means someone touched them inappropriately or forced the child to touch the molester. When a child is raped, this means the child was fucked in some manner or forced into some form of oral sexual contact.


^^^ See this??? On a technical level this is molestation. Today dude would be facing charges.

 

[Dupac]

Rape is physical. Accusation is verbal.

retaliation can absolutely be physical,

and if you're raped in prison for a crime you didn't commit, because niggaz love raping rapist....that's physical as well....

there are many consequences that need to go into consideration here../.

Okay rape is always physical is retaliation always physical? Are men always raped in jail after they've been falsely accused of rape?

nothing is absolute.....

but you're suggesting the possibility of violence not happening completely trumps the validity of argument?

that's basically saying it's only cheating if you get caught.....if no one ever catches consequences there's no crime....

and for your own argument, you're even suggesting that if a rape isn't reported then it's the same thing as it never happeneing

I don't see where I suggested that but ok. Most women who get raped don't report it. So accusation is worse than seeing your attacker free. maybe even knowing them maybe seeing them all the time when you walk down the fucking street or in family and nothing ever happens to them. That's a different kind of torture but whatever y'all compare.

really... so if a chick who i mutually had sex with told people i raped her, and nothing came from it, and i still gotta look at this chick everyday thinking about that time when she literally just had my life in the palms of her hands...and i just got lucky ....and i'm supposed to be cool about it???

like i could have potentially lost EVERYTHING, all because of some bullshit.....

or what if we never even had sex.....how bout that....say some random chick at my church tells everyone i raped her, and nothing major came from it, yea no jail time, nobody whooping my ass...

but my god trying to explain that shit to my wife, my family....and trying to just shake that shit off...i'm supposed to be like.. o well, ain't shit really come from it i'm good......

I don't see how that church example is in any way worse than being raped

you don't see how trying to explain something like that in front of your family would be life altering?

because once that accusation is placed out there, people have to wonder if you did it or not.....

having to explain yourself under those kind of circumstances could be disastrous......not everybody is super cool under pressure.....

while their may be no legal ramifications, relationships can be forever destroyed....i've in my life gotten severely upset for even being accused of lying about small shit......small shit.....i hate being called a liar.....

being called a rapist? nigga i can almost promise someone is getting punched in the face.....in the church....

"brother,...uh....sister jenking over there is implying that you might have uh, forced yourself on her teenage daugher"

"nigga....you gonna come at me on some bullshit like this? in front of my wife and child nigga?"

Would u rather that or being raped tho?

trick question....there's different factors because of me being a hetrosexual male...

under no circumstances would i want to be sodomized......but as a young child i was taken advantage by a older woman..you can call it molestation or rape......but it had a lasting effect over me, and i experienced a lot of sexual anxiety up until my early 20's...i eventually was able to get over it, but i never forgot it, and it does make me over protective about who i leave my son alone with....

and even as an adult if i was drugged by a woman and not coherent but taken advantage of sexually (think denzel in ricochet) i'd be pissed.....i'd feel violated.....but that would not be worse than being accused of raped...

however as a man...a hetro man... nothing is worse than being raped in the ass...nothing....however it needs to be said that that is not the only kid of rape i can experience....

Explain yourself >>>>nigga raping you

That's not the only kind of rape though

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Rape is physical. Accusation is verbal.

retaliation can absolutely be physical,

and if you're raped in prison for a crime you didn't commit, because niggaz love raping rapist....that's physical as well....

there are many consequences that need to go into consideration here../.

Okay rape is always physical is retaliation always physical? Are men always raped in jail after they've been falsely accused of rape?

nothing is absolute.....

but you're suggesting the possibility of violence not happening completely trumps the validity of argument?

that's basically saying it's only cheating if you get caught.....if no one ever catches consequences there's no crime....

and for your own argument, you're even suggesting that if a rape isn't reported then it's the same thing as it never happeneing

I don't see where I suggested that but ok. Most women who get raped don't report it. So accusation is worse than seeing your attacker free. maybe even knowing them maybe seeing them all the time when you walk down the fucking street or in family and nothing ever happens to them. That's a different kind of torture but whatever y'all compare.

really... so if a chick who i mutually had sex with told people i raped her, and nothing came from it, and i still gotta look at this chick everyday thinking about that time when she literally just had my life in the palms of her hands...and i just got lucky ....and i'm supposed to be cool about it???

like i could have potentially lost EVERYTHING, all because of some bullshit.....

or what if we never even had sex.....how bout that....say some random chick at my church tells everyone i raped her, and nothing major came from it, yea no jail time, nobody whooping my ass...

but my god trying to explain that shit to my wife, my family....and trying to just shake that shit off...i'm supposed to be like.. o well, ain't shit really come from it i'm good......

I don't see how that church example is in any way worse than being raped

you don't see how trying to explain something like that in front of your family would be life altering?

because once that accusation is placed out there, people have to wonder if you did it or not.....

having to explain yourself under those kind of circumstances could be disastrous......not everybody is super cool under pressure.....

while their may be no legal ramifications, relationships can be forever destroyed....i've in my life gotten severely upset for even being accused of lying about small shit......small shit.....i hate being called a liar.....

being called a rapist? nigga i can almost promise someone is getting punched in the face.....in the church....

"brother,...uh....sister jenking over there is implying that you might have uh, forced yourself on her teenage daugher"

"nigga....you gonna come at me on some bullshit like this? in front of my wife and child nigga?"

Would u rather that or being raped tho?

trick question....there's different factors because of me being a hetrosexual male...

under no circumstances would i want to be sodomized......but as a young child i was taken advantage by a older woman..you can call it molestation or rape......but it had a lasting effect over me, and i experienced a lot of sexual anxiety up until my early 20's...i eventually was able to get over it, but i never forgot it, and it does make me over protective about who i leave my son alone with....

and even as an adult if i was drugged by a woman and not coherent but taken advantage of sexually (think denzel in ricochet) i'd be pissed.....i'd feel violated.....but that would not be worse than being accused of raped...

however as a man...a hetro man... nothing is worse than being raped in the ass...nothing....however it needs to be said that that is not the only kid of rape i can experience....

Explain yourself >>>>nigga raping you

That's not the only kind of rape though

How many grown men are getting raped by women tho?

 

[konceptjones]

Rape is physical. Accusation is verbal.

retaliation can absolutely be physical,

and if you're raped in prison for a crime you didn't commit, because niggaz love raping rapist....that's physical as well....

there are many consequences that need to go into consideration here../.

Okay rape is always physical is retaliation always physical? Are men always raped in jail after they've been falsely accused of rape?

nothing is absolute.....

but you're suggesting the possibility of violence not happening completely trumps the validity of argument?

that's basically saying it's only cheating if you get caught.....if no one ever catches consequences there's no crime....

and for your own argument, you're even suggesting that if a rape isn't reported then it's the same thing as it never happeneing

I don't see where I suggested that but ok. Most women who get raped don't report it. So accusation is worse than seeing your attacker free. maybe even knowing them maybe seeing them all the time when you walk down the fucking street or in family and nothing ever happens to them. That's a different kind of torture but whatever y'all compare.

really... so if a chick who i mutually had sex with told people i raped her, and nothing came from it, and i still gotta look at this chick everyday thinking about that time when she literally just had my life in the palms of her hands...and i just got lucky ....and i'm supposed to be cool about it???

like i could have potentially lost EVERYTHING, all because of some bullshit.....

or what if we never even had sex.....how bout that....say some random chick at my church tells everyone i raped her, and nothing major came from it, yea no jail time, nobody whooping my ass...

but my god trying to explain that shit to my wife, my family....and trying to just shake that shit off...i'm supposed to be like.. o well, ain't shit really come from it i'm good......

I don't see how that church example is in any way worse than being raped

you don't see how trying to explain something like that in front of your family would be life altering?

because once that accusation is placed out there, people have to wonder if you did it or not.....

having to explain yourself under those kind of circumstances could be disastrous......not everybody is super cool under pressure.....

while their may be no legal ramifications, relationships can be forever destroyed....i've in my life gotten severely upset for even being accused of lying about small shit......small shit.....i hate being called a liar.....

being called a rapist? nigga i can almost promise someone is getting punched in the face.....in the church....

"brother,...uh....sister jenking over there is implying that you might have uh, forced yourself on her teenage daugher"

"nigga....you gonna come at me on some bullshit like this? in front of my wife and child nigga?"

Would u rather that or being raped tho?

trick question....there's different factors because of me being a hetrosexual male...

under no circumstances would i want to be sodomized......but as a young child i was taken advantage by a older woman..you can call it molestation or rape......but it had a lasting effect over me, and i experienced a lot of sexual anxiety up until my early 20's...i eventually was able to get over it, but i never forgot it, and it does make me over protective about who i leave my son alone with....

and even as an adult if i was drugged by a woman and not coherent but taken advantage of sexually (think denzel in ricochet) i'd be pissed.....i'd feel violated.....but that would not be worse than being accused of raped...

however as a man...a hetro man... nothing is worse than being raped in the ass...nothing....however it needs to be said that that is not the only kid of rape i can experience....

Explain yourself >>>>nigga raping you

That's not the only kind of rape though

How many grown men are getting raped by women tho?

http://myfox8.com/2015/05/17/woman-...-into-mans-apartment-raping-him-in-his-sleep/

 

[Dupac]

Rape is physical. Accusation is verbal.

retaliation can absolutely be physical,

and if you're raped in prison for a crime you didn't commit, because niggaz love raping rapist....that's physical as well....

there are many consequences that need to go into consideration here../.

Okay rape is always physical is retaliation always physical? Are men always raped in jail after they've been falsely accused of rape?

nothing is absolute.....

but you're suggesting the possibility of violence not happening completely trumps the validity of argument?

that's basically saying it's only cheating if you get caught.....if no one ever catches consequences there's no crime....

and for your own argument, you're even suggesting that if a rape isn't reported then it's the same thing as it never happeneing

I don't see where I suggested that but ok. Most women who get raped don't report it. So accusation is worse than seeing your attacker free. maybe even knowing them maybe seeing them all the time when you walk down the fucking street or in family and nothing ever happens to them. That's a different kind of torture but whatever y'all compare.

really... so if a chick who i mutually had sex with told people i raped her, and nothing came from it, and i still gotta look at this chick everyday thinking about that time when she literally just had my life in the palms of her hands...and i just got lucky ....and i'm supposed to be cool about it???

like i could have potentially lost EVERYTHING, all because of some bullshit.....

or what if we never even had sex.....how bout that....say some random chick at my church tells everyone i raped her, and nothing major came from it, yea no jail time, nobody whooping my ass...

but my god trying to explain that shit to my wife, my family....and trying to just shake that shit off...i'm supposed to be like.. o well, ain't shit really come from it i'm good......

I don't see how that church example is in any way worse than being raped

you don't see how trying to explain something like that in front of your family would be life altering?

because once that accusation is placed out there, people have to wonder if you did it or not.....

having to explain yourself under those kind of circumstances could be disastrous......not everybody is super cool under pressure.....

while their may be no legal ramifications, relationships can be forever destroyed....i've in my life gotten severely upset for even being accused of lying about small shit......small shit.....i hate being called a liar.....

being called a rapist? nigga i can almost promise someone is getting punched in the face.....in the church....

"brother,...uh....sister jenking over there is implying that you might have uh, forced yourself on her teenage daugher"

"nigga....you gonna come at me on some bullshit like this? in front of my wife and child nigga?"

Would u rather that or being raped tho?

trick question....there's different factors because of me being a hetrosexual male...

under no circumstances would i want to be sodomized......but as a young child i was taken advantage by a older woman..you can call it molestation or rape......but it had a lasting effect over me, and i experienced a lot of sexual anxiety up until my early 20's...i eventually was able to get over it, but i never forgot it, and it does make me over protective about who i leave my son alone with....

and even as an adult if i was drugged by a woman and not coherent but taken advantage of sexually (think denzel in ricochet) i'd be pissed.....i'd feel violated.....but that would not be worse than being accused of raped...

however as a man...a hetro man... nothing is worse than being raped in the ass...nothing....however it needs to be said that that is not the only kid of rape i can experience....

Explain yourself >>>>nigga raping you

That's not the only kind of rape though

How many grown men are getting raped by women tho?

How many doesn't lessen the significance of the act....

I presented the scenario from ricochet, that's rape.... Regardless how common it's still rape

I'd rather go through that then be falsely accused of raping someone else

 

[konceptjones]

The only way that this argument has any validity is if the falsely accused does real time behind it, or is physically punished to the point where the injuries are life changing.

A judge telling you you're about to do 12 calendars for no reason is the only other soul scorching act that could jump with actually being raped.

Just an accusation though? Get the fuck outta here, it ain't close.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/21016808/false-rape-claims-devastating-say-wrongly-accused
http://www.slate.com/articles/doubl...ns_why_must_be_pretend_they_never_happen.html
http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/08/rocks...mpact-of-wrongful-accusation-of-rape-5739448/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/son-12-how-can-rapist-7639672
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/yes-false-accusations-destroy-lives/article/2557145

here's some reading material. What you're saying and the way the real world works ain't in alignment.

Not reading because i'm not changing my mind. My world don't gotta be like everybody elses. Certain things are just closed discussions with me doc. The only thing that could even it out is real punishment for something you didn't do. Outside of that, an accusation is just that. I can keep it movin off that. But the actual rape, i'm gonna want blood to be shed. Period.

That's great... but what do you do when your family stops fuckin with you 'cause, you know... he was accused of raping that chick". How about when your friends don't fuck with you? How about when you go to apply for that job and HR pulls up the accusation? They're not about to take a chance on you. What about her family that still believes you raped her and comes to see you over it? When random folks yell out in a crowd "THAT MAN IS A RAPIST!!!" and points at you are you still gonna keep it moving? When some chick in your neighborhood is actually raped and cops come knocking at your door what then?

Being willfully ignorant of how shit really goes down is stupid. You think you can handle it, but you'll probably fold if it happened for real.

 

[Dupac]

for the record i'm still leaning towards raped being worse, but this accused argument is damn strong

 

[konceptjones]

trick question....there's different factors because of me being a hetrosexual male...

under no circumstances would i want to be sodomized......but as a young child i was taken advantage by a older woman..you can call it molestation or rape......but it had a lasting effect over me, and i experienced a lot of sexual anxiety up until my early 20's...i eventually was able to get over it, but i never forgot it, and it does make me over protective about who i leave my son alone with....

and even as an adult if i was drugged by a woman and not coherent but taken advantage of sexually (think denzel in ricochet) i'd be pissed.....i'd feel violated.....but that would not be worse than being accused of raped...

however as a man...a hetro man... nothing is worse than being raped in the ass...nothing....however it needs to be said that that is not the only kid of rape i can experience....

See, the more this is talked about the more you find out just how many men had similar experiences you did as a child and you start to realize just how predatory women can be towards young boys. Like you I had some shit happen with an older woman as well as an older girl when I was a kid. When I was a teenager I had older chicks in my neighborhood gettin "inappropriate" with me on a regular basis, which didn't really register in my head as molestation at the time 'cause I was a teenager with raging hormones and I thought the shit was fly at the time.

 

[_Lefty]

The only way that this argument has any validity is if the falsely accused does real time behind it, or is physically punished to the point where the injuries are life changing.

A judge telling you you're about to do 12 calendars for no reason is the only other soul scorching act that could jump with actually being raped.

Just an accusation though? Get the fuck outta here, it ain't close.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/21016808/false-rape-claims-devastating-say-wrongly-accused
http://www.slate.com/articles/doubl...ns_why_must_be_pretend_they_never_happen.html
http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/08/rocks...mpact-of-wrongful-accusation-of-rape-5739448/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/son-12-how-can-rapist-7639672
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/yes-false-accusations-destroy-lives/article/2557145

here's some reading material. What you're saying and the way the real world works ain't in alignment.

Not reading because i'm not changing my mind. My world don't gotta be like everybody elses. Certain things are just closed discussions with me doc. The only thing that could even it out is real punishment for something you didn't do. Outside of that, an accusation is just that. I can keep it movin off that. But the actual rape, i'm gonna want blood to be shed. Period.

That's great... but what do you do when your family stops fuckin with you 'cause, you know... he was accused of raping that chick". How about when your friends don't fuck with you? How about when you go to apply for that job and HR pulls up the accusation? They're not about to take a chance on you. What about her family that still believes you raped her and comes to see you over it? When random folks yell out in a crowd "THAT MAN IS A RAPIST!!!" and points at you are you still gonna keep it moving? When some chick in your neighborhood is actually raped and cops come knocking at your door what then?

Being willfully ignorant of how shit really goes down is stupid. You think you can handle it, but you'll probably fold if it happened for real.

None of that is going to happen. Blood thicker than mud. And I've had a homie, a really close one accused of rape. I never believed it for a second, and sure enough, he was exonerated. That's what loyalty look like. As far as applying for a job, I haven't had a job in like 10 years, so I don't know what that looks like. If the girl's family pulls up on me, then we'll just have to see. Random folks yellin in a crowd that i'm a rapist? What the fuck am I a celebrity? I'm grown fam. All I need is my peoples rockin with me, people have turned their back on me for less. The people that really know me know what time it is.

It's not being willfully ignorant, it's understanding that an accusation, especially in today's society where people's attention spans are that of a goldfish ain't as heavy as the act itself. And never will be.

It's like asking if it's worse if I'm really, really, unbearably disrespectful toward you and sullying your name in the streets is worse than uppin this strap and tearin you up, but you survive. Which is more traumatic? Hey, at least you may have a chance to explain your rep, but what about your bones hurtin when it rains? I dunno fam.

 

[konceptjones]

The only way that this argument has any validity is if the falsely accused does real time behind it, or is physically punished to the point where the injuries are life changing.

A judge telling you you're about to do 12 calendars for no reason is the only other soul scorching act that could jump with actually being raped.

Just an accusation though? Get the fuck outta here, it ain't close.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/21016808/false-rape-claims-devastating-say-wrongly-accused
http://www.slate.com/articles/doubl...ns_why_must_be_pretend_they_never_happen.html
http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/08/rocks...mpact-of-wrongful-accusation-of-rape-5739448/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/son-12-how-can-rapist-7639672
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/yes-false-accusations-destroy-lives/article/2557145

here's some reading material. What you're saying and the way the real world works ain't in alignment.

Not reading because i'm not changing my mind. My world don't gotta be like everybody elses. Certain things are just closed discussions with me doc. The only thing that could even it out is real punishment for something you didn't do. Outside of that, an accusation is just that. I can keep it movin off that. But the actual rape, i'm gonna want blood to be shed. Period.

That's great... but what do you do when your family stops fuckin with you 'cause, you know... he was accused of raping that chick". How about when your friends don't fuck with you? How about when you go to apply for that job and HR pulls up the accusation? They're not about to take a chance on you. What about her family that still believes you raped her and comes to see you over it? When random folks yell out in a crowd "THAT MAN IS A RAPIST!!!" and points at you are you still gonna keep it moving? When some chick in your neighborhood is actually raped and cops come knocking at your door what then?

Being willfully ignorant of how shit really goes down is stupid. You think you can handle it, but you'll probably fold if it happened for real.

None of that is going to happen. Blood thicker than mud. And I've had a homie, a really close one accused of rape. I never believed it for a second, and sure enough, he was exonerated. That's what loyalty look like. As far as applying for a job, I haven't had a job in like 10 years, so I don't know what that looks like. If the girl's family pulls up on me, then we'll just have to see. Random folks yellin in a crowd that i'm a rapist? What the fuck am I a celebrity? I'm grown fam. All I need is my peoples rockin with me, people have turned their back on me for less. The people that really know me know what time it is.

It's not being willfully ignorant, it's understanding that an accusation, especially in today's society where people's attention spans are that of a goldfish ain't as heavy as the act itself. And never will be.

It's like asking if it's worse if I'm really, really, unbearably disrespectful toward you and sullying your name in the streets is worse than uppin this strap and tearin you up, but you survive. Which is more traumatic? Hey, at least you may have a chance to explain your rep, but what about your bones hurtin when it rains? I dunno fam.

There's hundreds of articles that dispute this outright with plenty of evidence to back it up. I pointed out a few. Take the time to read the articles to see just what happens.

 

[Trillfate]

I really don't see what the debate is

To me a physical action >>>> a verbal action

Whats worse; getting punched in the face or someone yelling "Fuck You!" ?

 

[Dupac]

it's a though one bruh, cuz even family members get falsely accused....

but in contrast...i think being raped and no one believing you trumps them both.....

 

[Dupac]

I really don't see what the debate is

To me a physical action >>>> a verbal action

Whats worse; getting punched in the face or someone yelling "Fuck You!" ?

to put the physical vs verbal in a better context.....

what's worse being punched in the face or a known faggot saying yall had sex....

 

[CapitalB]

I really don't see what the debate is

To me a physical action >>>> a verbal action

Whats worse; getting punched in the face or someone yelling "Fuck You!" ?

verbal abuse is actually said to be worse then physical..

jus sayib..