Well let's finish it out. Fair or foul. Pound cake speech and other videos. long read.

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2stepz_ahead;c-9843241 said:
i am assuming all those that hate him....would come and read this to point out the wrong he said and how he down talking.

this is often a point when saying he aint shit......

cmon yall

dont let me down

i even posted it for you.

did he say something wrong? or were you told he said something wrong?

cmon ...let get it.

i gotta take a nap now

Dude... nobody is reading all that. what the hell is wrong with you?
 
also.....if he never said anything.....would you be checking those fukking up the community?

how would you address them? when i say them...im talk those fukking up the community.

do you really think you can come at them all the same way?

we dont all hear the same or respond to the same wording and tones.

i also think your background and upbringing dictates your sensitivity to certain shit.

if you have negative guardians.....shit will always seems negative. nigga tell you have a nice day, an you ready to fight thinking he trynna say something slick.

positive background...same shit just visa versa.

my dad couldnt stop playing a damn joke on someone.....or doing or saying something to make people laugh....

im the same way...so im very light hearted with thick skin...so the shit he says doesnt bother me...even if it was directed at me....i respect you took your time to tell me....ill look into it. and ill keep it moving.

breaking down someone who telling me about myself is counterprodective to only me.

so i say all that to say......everything he said....i took what i needed ...heard it a different way. and laughed cause some of the shit was true.

he aint make me feel the need to check him.

everything dont need checking.

we got alot of work to do vs...cosby numbers were of and he talking down.

we need to be checking our own family members to keep them out of and away from fukkery.

we men...need to stand up for the fukk niggas in our family who fukking up.

you see how that goes.

we got other shit to keep in check not a speech.
 
D. Morgan;c-9843649 said:
Some of this shit is just weird to me.

I can't say fuck that speech cause Cosby got some stats wrong when I understand the context he saying these things in and I get the overall message that he is trying to convey.

It would be nice if he had gotten the numbers correct but that shit really trivial when its really about the message of the fucked up positions some black people are in.

exactly..

hes talking only to the toxic niggas not other niggas
 
It's funny to me.

I tell my son a lot of the things Dr. Cosby said.

He was talking to us about us. He wasn't talking to Cody, Gunner and Martha about us. Some blacks hate to look in the mirror and just do/want better.
 
HarlemThumzUp;c-9843652 said:
nothing wrong with the pound cake part we as parents supposed to be checcin kids atleast OUR OWN when we hear broken english especially that whole " we aint " " is you " bullshit I correct my son when I hear him speaking like that cuz I was raised that way. The issue is there are fewer elders than there were before, knowledge has been lost roles have been reversed etc..

oh my cotdamn.......

the bolded

oh shit....

sums it all up

honestly...hes doing the job of alot of and for people.

no im not talking the innocent men sent to jail or killed. im talking about the able strong bodies niggas who engage in fukkery and being destructive to our community.

they need to be checked by us.....before...i dont want to say it.
 
Kwan Dai;c-9843681 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843670 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9843658 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843637 said:
7figz;c-9843607 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843522 said:
7figz;c-9843468 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843401 said:
7figz;c-9843385 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843372 said:
7figz;c-9843337 said:
Everybody's a Black statistician nowadays, and there's always somebody else to say "well it's true".

MFs believe the racist narratives, stereotypes, and fake statistics put out by racist White America and Black self haters, and don't make their own observations or critical thinking for an objective point of view.

soooo...you dont see a problem in the black community?

a large problem?

Of course there are problems - it doesn't mean everybody got a crackhead moms and a father who ran off, and dropped out of school to become a part time drug dealer, rapper, and NBA player.

These MFs just like to shit on Black people and quote the most negative bullshit stats they could think of while not acknowledging any positive shit.

but hes only speaking on those who are the problem.

what part of that dont you get?

are you attached to it since you defending it...or are you not apart but witnessed it? or are you oblivious?

hes says it again here:
=share

bruh you being a no-groe


I don't have the time to go in on the number of things you're off-base on in that post.

What am I "defending" and how ?

Because I don't fully agree with MFs who don't got shit but negativity to say about Black people ?

Do you know how many Black people I know, and in my family, graduated college - got kids, family, houses, careers, and all that "good" shit ? Wore baggy pants, listened to rap, etc... but never fit the rest of the bullshit negative stereotyped outcomes these "critics" like to preach ?

So what the fuck I look like casting some big negative generalization (and simplication) of Black people and our issues when it's both MFs making it and not making it ? I'm supposed to agree with MFs who say "It's because they wearing the pants hanging down and listening to the rap music that they're out there killing each other high on lean and being killed by cops" ?

Fuck that bullshit, rather be a "ne-groe" or whatever word classist-type Black people want to use to try and distinguish themselves from other Black people any day than be spitting the same pessimistic bullshit White America spits.


at the bolded.....

so why are you talking offense to it?

and for you to say he has nothing but negative to say about black people......

my freind....you are lost and only want to hear that.

you are on his side..and dont even realize it. hes not speaking to them. he said it himself in the video i posted for you to hear him say it out his own mouth.


I wasn't even speaking directly about Cosby. There's a lot of characters like him nowadays who highlight the most negative shit they can say about us (hell if it's true or not). We're definitely not on the same side.

Also, it's not even about me being offended - I just don't agree with it.

Even with what you quoted from me (knowing successful Black people), I would not be out here disparaging the other Black people and over-simplifying Black issues like most of these types (not saying Cosby) does. Also it doesn't even come across as they're only addressing the ones they're criticizing. A MF can post in a thread "Black people lack critical thinking" and have a bunch of MFs co-signing it. Where's the qualification that he's only talking about a specific group of Black people ? Where's the facts to back it up ? What about the ones who do ? Where's the stats - nothing.

What was helping Black people more ? All this criticism from other Black people or Black people who spoke to other Black people about our problems with an all-inclusive view of what was going on and didn't make casual assumptions to complex issues without offering a solution ?

Example: Heard a dude say the reason for violence in the Black community is because of rap. Can he prove it ? What about movies ? What's the theme - you can blame Black people for rap.

MFs so mad about people sagging their jeans and listening to rap that they'll bring it up when you mention cops getting away with killing Black people... along with any other issues faced by Black people. "What about Black on Black crime ?"


i agree.

but i can go a few places with this...but ill try to stay focused.

when i hear cosby talk...i here the uncle at the bbq that only wants right for his family.

he might stumble over his words and some shit wont make sense......but whats more important, me telling him his numbers are wrong or me understanding him wanting the best for me and is angry if i dont acheive it.

now....if i am doing my best but i know my cousins are fukking up. then i know...i happen to be in attendance while he went the fukk off....but i know who its directed towards and know who its not directed towards.

i get the point your getting at...

but heres the thing...yall both would be right in the rap example. some people dont have figures to look up to and only know what they think is right by what they hear and see. others are not that mentally weak. we have to admit to it all...both sides. there is a reason certain music is played over other choices on certain urban stations. we have to take that on the chin and fix it.

alot of problems are in our community...we have to address it.

honestly...i dont have time for someone to tell me in the nicest way possible.

im no bitch and if i need to be yelled at....i allow it becuase i can fukk up and need to be corrected.

a true listener can listen to whoever and however....and know if its directed at them or like i said....if they happen to be in attendance.

yall ever been in a business meeting and the boss yelling at the room about poor performance?

but you know your shit is on point?

do you go to the boss afterwards to point his inaccuracies?


But that uncle is your uncle and you know he has your best interest at heart. We don't necessarily know this to be true of outsiders.

I to am not of the opinion that everything needs to be said, nicely. But that is because, of my own thick skin. However, when dealing with large groups people of various circumstances it becomes imperative to speak in a way in which,everyone feels comfortable, motivated and inspired. Otherwise you risk turning people off and your message doesn't carry.

I do. Yo after my review this year I was heated. But I knew if I'd addressed it at the time I would have said all of the wrong things. So, after about a month I walked into my mgrs office and professionally told him how he played me because, of his interpretations and inaccuracies. He responded by saying he wished I had come to him earlier and that my feedback will enable to not make the mistakes not just with me but with others. So, hell yes. I am checking folks I am just built that way.


now with you just said......image stewing over decades....

you think you would walk in with the same calmness and professionalism?


um yes. Because, over decades you have the opportunity to grow and correct. I could see if he said, this back in the 80's..

I tend to prefer the martial approach. Your sifu\shifu should grow wiser and more patient as the years go by.


dont talk about my sifu bruh...lets leave family outta this
 
2stepz_ahead;c-9843694 said:
also.....if he never said anything.....would you be checking those fukking up the community?

how would you address them? when i say them...im talk those fukking up the community.

do you really think you can come at them all the same way?

we dont all hear the same or respond to the same wording and tones.

i also think your background and upbringing dictates your sensitivity to certain shit.

if you have negative guardians.....shit will always seems negative. nigga tell you have a nice day, an you ready to fight thinking he trynna say something slick.

positive background...same shit just visa versa.

my dad couldnt stop playing a damn joke on someone.....or doing or saying something to make people laugh....

im the same way...so im very light hearted with thick skin...so the shit he says doesnt bother me...even if it was directed at me....i respect you took your time to tell me....ill look into it. and ill keep it moving.

breaking down someone who telling me about myself is counterprodective to only me.

so i say all that to say......everything he said....i took what i needed ...heard it a different way. and laughed cause some of the shit was true.

he aint make me feel the need to check him.

everything dont need checking.

we got alot of work to do vs...cosby numbers were of and he talking down.

we need to be checking our own family members to keep them out of and away from fukkery.

we men...need to stand up for the fukk niggas in our family who fukking up.

you see how that goes.

we got other shit to keep in check not a speech.

My father was\is stern and unyielding. He taught us to fight and stand up for those who cannot do it for themselves. So, I am very familiar with being given instruction in not the nicest of terms. But I have thick skin. I have always been my own person with the ability to work independently. I have several siblings and I have seen not only in my own personal life but within greater society that most aren't as thick skinned. Having observed how some people can be broken by stronger personalities I find the right thing to do is, bring people to task who have a public platform in which to speak to the masses that they do so, in manner that serves the greater purpose.

Also, cosby's missteps weren't just inaccurate numbers as pointed out quite thoroughly by @7figz.
 
Kwan Dai;c-9843669 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843657 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9843622 said:
We should all strive for sensitivity. But you are correct us youngings should be more sensitive to our elders. But the sensitivity you mentioned is what is at heart of my critique of cosby rant. That's why I am not in here bashing cosby. I am pointing out his errors. Respectively.

In order for our youngings to be accurate WE first have to supply them with accurate information. They are already being fed enough lies.

The reality this younger generation doesn't give a shit about cosby the way our generation did. So, between iffy assed speeches and these rape allegations he's dug himself into a hole.

cotdamn it...

just when i thought i was out you pull me back in.....

i was with you until the bolded

they should care....they should know

and how he dig himself into it? he fighting allegations.

if anything these youngins should know a black man can be accused of anything and is guilty until proven innocent so dont be so fast to judge another black man on the word of a white woman when your a black man.

and i wont say 50% of the time
 
Shizlansky;c-9843707 said:
It's funny to me.

I tell my son a lot of the things Dr. Cosby said.

He was talking to us about us. He wasn't talking to Cody, Gunner and Martha about us. Some blacks hate to look in the mirror and just do/want better.

He gave that speech with whites in the audience. So, you aren't accurate either.
 
Kwan Dai;c-9843721 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843694 said:
also.....if he never said anything.....would you be checking those fukking up the community?

how would you address them? when i say them...im talk those fukking up the community.

do you really think you can come at them all the same way?

we dont all hear the same or respond to the same wording and tones.

i also think your background and upbringing dictates your sensitivity to certain shit.

if you have negative guardians.....shit will always seems negative. nigga tell you have a nice day, an you ready to fight thinking he trynna say something slick.

positive background...same shit just visa versa.

my dad couldnt stop playing a damn joke on someone.....or doing or saying something to make people laugh....

im the same way...so im very light hearted with thick skin...so the shit he says doesnt bother me...even if it was directed at me....i respect you took your time to tell me....ill look into it. and ill keep it moving.

breaking down someone who telling me about myself is counterprodective to only me.

so i say all that to say......everything he said....i took what i needed ...heard it a different way. and laughed cause some of the shit was true.

he aint make me feel the need to check him.

everything dont need checking.

we got alot of work to do vs...cosby numbers were of and he talking down.

we need to be checking our own family members to keep them out of and away from fukkery.

we men...need to stand up for the fukk niggas in our family who fukking up.

you see how that goes.

we got other shit to keep in check not a speech.

My father was\is stern and unyielding. He taught us to fight and stand up for those who cannot do it for themselves. So, I am very familiar with being given instruction in not the nicest of terms. But I have thick skin. I have always been my own person with the ability to work independently. I have several siblings and I have seen not only in my own personal life but within greater society that most aren't as thick skinned. Having observed how some people can be broken by stronger personalities I find the right thing to do is, bring people to task who have a public platform in which to speak to the masses that they do so, in manner that serves the greater purpose.

Also, cosby's missteps weren't just inaccurate numbers as pointed out quite thoroughly by @7figz.

rather than bring them to task over how they are speaking....how about translating the message for those with softer ears?

sometimes a message if for some to hear and others to deliver.

the way you are going about it...can make a person willing to do right back away....

but helping relay a message differently...can help us all.

your job might just be..that your a vessel to others.

think about it for a sec before you challenge it
 
2stepz_ahead;c-9843725 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9843669 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843657 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9843622 said:
We should all strive for sensitivity. But you are correct us youngings should be more sensitive to our elders. But the sensitivity you mentioned is what is at heart of my critique of cosby rant. That's why I am not in here bashing cosby. I am pointing out his errors. Respectively.

In order for our youngings to be accurate WE first have to supply them with accurate information. They are already being fed enough lies.

The reality this younger generation doesn't give a shit about cosby the way our generation did. So, between iffy assed speeches and these rape allegations he's dug himself into a hole.

cotdamn it...

just when i thought i was out you pull me back in.....

i was with you until the bolded

they should care....they should know

and how he dig himself into it? he fighting allegations.

if anything these youngins should know a black man can be accused of anything and is guilty until proven innocent so dont be so fast to judge another black man on the word of a white woman when your a black man.

and i wont say 50% of the time
 
2stepz_ahead;c-9843640 said:
blackrain;c-9843591 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9843536 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843483 said:
so he says 50%

the real number might be 20%

so that makes him wrong on everything?

yea ok

You left out the other 50% are in prison.

And that's just one inaccuracy.

Stop being dishonest just to make a non-point.



We can recognize cosby as a great while correcting errors in his horrendous speech
.

I'm confused as to why the bold is so hard for some to get. As if saying he's wrong about 1 or 2 things means you're questioning his entire existence and every good thing he's done. Nobody should be above reproach and part of being a good leader is being able to acknowledge your own mistepps not pretending they dont exist

we are not pretending they dont exist......

but why is that point standing out so much as oppose to the problems hes speaking about?

why are yall acting like THEY dont exist.

Nobody is denying the bad exists. Im just saying be accurate or as close to accurate in your critiques as possible because making grand statements that are off just to prove a point leaves people room to dispute them based on whatever "fact" you or someone else is using as being fundamentally wrong. If you're going to offer criticism especially on a grand scale have your points as tight as possible so you dont have to worry about people trying to attack those inaccuracies. Leave them with no other option but to shake their head and say "Damn they're right"
 
2stepz_ahead;c-9843637 said:
7figz;c-9843607 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843522 said:
7figz;c-9843468 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843401 said:
7figz;c-9843385 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843372 said:
7figz;c-9843337 said:
Everybody's a Black statistician nowadays, and there's always somebody else to say "well it's true".

MFs believe the racist narratives, stereotypes, and fake statistics put out by racist White America and Black self haters, and don't make their own observations or critical thinking for an objective point of view.

soooo...you dont see a problem in the black community?

a large problem?

Of course there are problems - it doesn't mean everybody got a crackhead moms and a father who ran off, and dropped out of school to become a part time drug dealer, rapper, and NBA player.

These MFs just like to shit on Black people and quote the most negative bullshit stats they could think of while not acknowledging any positive shit.

but hes only speaking on those who are the problem.

what part of that dont you get?

are you attached to it since you defending it...or are you not apart but witnessed it? or are you oblivious?

hes says it again here:
=share

bruh you being a no-groe


I don't have the time to go in on the number of things you're off-base on in that post.

What am I "defending" and how ?

Because I don't fully agree with MFs who don't got shit but negativity to say about Black people ?

Fuck that bullshit, rather be a "ne-groe" or whatever word classist-type Black people want to use to try and distinguish themselves from other Black people any day than be spitting the same pessimistic bullshit White America spits.


at the bolded.....

so why are you talking offense to it?

and for you to say he has nothing but negative to say about black people......

my freind....you are lost and only want to hear that.

you are on his side..and dont even realize it. hes not speaking to them. he said it himself in the video i posted for you to hear him say it out his own mouth.


I wasn't even speaking directly about Cosby. There's a lot of characters like him nowadays who highlight the most negative shit they can say about us (hell if it's true or not). We're definitely not on the same side.

Also, it's not even about me being offended - I just don't agree with it.

Even with what you quoted from me (knowing successful Black people), I would not be out here disparaging the other Black people and over-simplifying Black issues like most of these types (not saying Cosby) does. Also it doesn't even come across as they're only addressing the ones they're criticizing. A MF can post in a thread "Black people lack critical thinking" and have a bunch of MFs co-signing it. Where's the qualification that he's only talking about a specific group of Black people ? Where's the facts to back it up ? What about the ones who do ? Where's the stats - nothing.

What was helping Black people more ? All this criticism from other Black people or Black people who spoke to other Black people about our problems with an all-inclusive view of what was going on and didn't make casual assumptions to complex issues without offering a solution ?

Example: Heard a dude say the reason for violence in the Black community is because of rap. Can he prove it ? What about movies ? What's the theme - you can blame Black people for rap.

MFs so mad about people sagging their jeans and listening to rap that they'll bring it up when you mention cops getting away with killing Black people... along with any other issues faced by Black people. "What about Black on Black crime ?"


i agree.

but i can go a few places with this...but ill try to stay focused.

when i hear cosby talk...i here the uncle at the bbq that only wants right for his family.

he might stumble over his words and some shit wont make sense......but whats more important, me telling him his numbers are wrong or me understanding him wanting the best for me and is angry if i dont acheive it.

now....if i am doing my best but i know my cousins are fukking up. then i know...i happen to be in attendance while he went the fukk off....but i know who its directed towards and know who its not directed towards.

i get the point your getting at...

but heres the thing...yall both would be right in the rap example. some people dont have figures to look up to and only know what they think is right by what they hear and see. others are not that mentally weak. we have to admit to it all...both sides. there is a reason certain music is played over other choices on certain urban stations. we have to take that on the chin and fix it.

alot of problems are in our community...we have to address it.

honestly...i dont have time for someone to tell me in the nicest way possible.

im no bitch and if i need to be yelled at....i allow it becuase i can fukk up and need to be corrected.

a true listener can listen to whoever and however....and know if its directed at them or like i said....if they happen to be in attendance.

yall ever been in a business meeting and the boss yelling at the room about poor performance?

but you know your shit is on point?

do you go to the boss afterwards to point his inaccuracies?


cosby isn't just any man...he is isn't just your old drunk uncle ranting at the family cook out

he is a cultural icon who crowned himself a moralist

so his words have weight

that said, his idea that people can overcome their systemic oppression by improving their personal behavior is nothing more than respectability politics

the issue with that ideology is that it puts the pressure on individuals to singlehandedly triumph over a system designed to oppress millions. and if they fail, then they just aren't good enough. it's victim blaming

the other problem if you genuinely are to believe that each individual must singlehandedly overcome their structural oppression, then what incentive would you or anyone have to stop the oppression in the first place. that helps the oppressor

not to mention, as others pointed out, the numbers quoted by cosby were inflated and there were gross exaggerations chalk through his speech ... why does it matter? it perpetuates the false narrative that the blk community/blk culture is morally bankrupt and no amount of government action can change things for the better...

were his intentions malicious? i like to believe not....i think its more so a class and generational divide.... this sentiment "i over came this oppression by being great, so I'm not sure what your problem is" goes over well with certain segments of society because in many cases their livelihoods are beholden to the oppressor or rather to the idea that anyone can make it in America

and is reason why conservatives and white supremacist alike love to quote cosby when disparaging legitimate complaints of institutional racism and movements like BLM

you want to continue to defend the man and paint the speech as the ramblings of a senile but well meaning old man, cool

but realize he has made similar comments almost his entire time in the public eye so this isn't nothing new
 
2stepz_ahead;c-9843637 said:
7figz;c-9843607 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843522 said:
7figz;c-9843468 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843401 said:
7figz;c-9843385 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9843372 said:
7figz;c-9843337 said:
Everybody's a Black statistician nowadays, and there's always somebody else to say "well it's true".

MFs believe the racist narratives, stereotypes, and fake statistics put out by racist White America and Black self haters, and don't make their own observations or critical thinking for an objective point of view.

soooo...you dont see a problem in the black community?

a large problem?

Of course there are problems - it doesn't mean everybody got a crackhead moms and a father who ran off, and dropped out of school to become a part time drug dealer, rapper, and NBA player.

These MFs just like to shit on Black people and quote the most negative bullshit stats they could think of while not acknowledging any positive shit.

but hes only speaking on those who are the problem.

what part of that dont you get?

are you attached to it since you defending it...or are you not apart but witnessed it? or are you oblivious?

hes says it again here:
=share

bruh you being a no-groe


I don't have the time to go in on the number of things you're off-base on in that post.

What am I "defending" and how ?

Because I don't fully agree with MFs who don't got shit but negativity to say about Black people ?

Do you know how many Black people I know, and in my family, graduated college - got kids, family, houses, careers, and all that "good" shit ? Wore baggy pants, listened to rap, etc... but never fit the rest of the bullshit negative stereotyped outcomes these "critics" like to preach ?

So what the fuck I look like casting some big negative generalization (and simplication) of Black people and our issues when it's both MFs making it and not making it ? I'm supposed to agree with MFs who say "It's because they wearing the pants hanging down and listening to the rap music that they're out there killing each other high on lean and being killed by cops" ?

Fuck that bullshit, rather be a "ne-groe" or whatever word classist-type Black people want to use to try and distinguish themselves from other Black people any day than be spitting the same pessimistic bullshit White America spits.


at the bolded.....

so why are you talking offense to it?

and for you to say he has nothing but negative to say about black people......

my freind....you are lost and only want to hear that.

you are on his side..and dont even realize it. hes not speaking to them. he said it himself in the video i posted for you to hear him say it out his own mouth.


I wasn't even speaking directly about Cosby. There's a lot of characters like him nowadays who highlight the most negative shit they can say about us (hell if it's true or not). We're definitely not on the same side.

Also, it's not even about me being offended - I just don't agree with it.

Even with what you quoted from me (knowing successful Black people), I would not be out here disparaging the other Black people and over-simplifying Black issues like most of these types (not saying Cosby) does. Also it doesn't even come across as they're only addressing the ones they're criticizing. A MF can post in a thread "Black people lack critical thinking" and have a bunch of MFs co-signing it. Where's the qualification that he's only talking about a specific group of Black people ? Where's the facts to back it up ? What about the ones who do ? Where's the stats - nothing.

What was helping Black people more ? All this criticism from other Black people or Black people who spoke to other Black people about our problems with an all-inclusive view of what was going on and didn't make casual assumptions to complex issues without offering a solution ?

Example: Heard a dude say the reason for violence in the Black community is because of rap. Can he prove it ? What about movies ? What's the theme - you can blame Black people for rap.

MFs so mad about people sagging their jeans and listening to rap that they'll bring it up when you mention cops getting away with killing Black people... along with any other issues faced by Black people. "What about Black on Black crime ?"


i agree.

but i can go a few places with this...but ill try to stay focused.

when i hear cosby talk...i here the uncle at the bbq that only wants right for his family.

he might stumble over his words and some shit wont make sense......but whats more important, me telling him his numbers are wrong or me understanding him wanting the best for me and is angry if i dont acheive it.

now....if i am doing my best but i know my cousins are fukking up. then i know...i happen to be in attendance while he went the fukk off....but i know who its directed towards and know who its not directed towards.

i get the point your getting at...

but heres the thing...yall both would be right in the rap example. some people dont have figures to look up to and only know what they think is right by what they hear and see. others are not that mentally weak. we have to admit to it all...both sides. there is a reason certain music is played over other choices on certain urban stations. we have to take that on the chin and fix it.

alot of problems are in our community...we have to address it.

honestly...i dont have time for someone to tell me in the nicest way possible.

im no bitch and if i need to be yelled at....i allow it becuase i can fukk up and need to be corrected.

a true listener can listen to whoever and however....and know if its directed at them or like i said....if they happen to be in attendance.

yall ever been in a business meeting and the boss yelling at the room about poor performance?

but you know your shit is on point?

do you go to the boss afterwards to point his inaccuracies?


Honestly I have went off on a boss during a meeting for including me in a rant about a project that was going well, but I knew I was pulling my weight so wasn't about to take that shit. That's another story tho.

For Bill Cosby, I ain't going hard on him because I don't know how many times he ranted on Black people. My guess is he wouldn't do the same shit again now tho - after going through this shit with all these white MFs.

In certain contexts, that type of critical rant could be well-intentioned but in the current state of affairs, that type of shit does more harm than good. Too many dumb MFs who'll just take that kind of talk and run with it.

And while some people are intelligent enough to discern the helpful part of the good intentions, there are way more MFs abusing and exploiting it. That's exactly why Fox news and other racist media outlets always let the Black people, who only criticize other Black people, on to speak.

Just feel like that kind of speech is toxic nowadays.

 
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i am assuming all those that hate him....would come and read this to point out the wrong he said and how he down talking.

this is often a point when saying he aint shit......

cmon yall

dont let me down

i even posted it for you.

did he say something wrong? or were you told he said something wrong?

cmon ...let get it.

i gotta take a nap now

You should take a nap. What's to point out when it's sitting there in our faces? Anyone reading that incoherent mess and can say with a straight face that's the truth is being 100% dishonest.

Who got shot in the back of the head for stealing a coca cola.? I don't recall that incident. I do recall the Latasha Harlins incident though. Which, had absolutely nothing to do with poor parenting.

Cosby says "50 percent dropout, the rest are in prison".. Seriously? These numbers can be corroborated?

Cosby degrades Blacks that choose to identify with Africa. He even goes as far as saying they know nothing about Africa. Seriously?

He spends a good portion of shitting on Black women. His not making any sense. Especially with recent data saying that the most educated segment of American society is in fact Black Women.

I am appalled that I even have to point this out to forum full of Black Men. WTF?

These are some of the minor errors that cosby makes during his rant.

soooooooo its safe to assume u didn't get that he was talking about the problems that are plaguing the inner cities??

u thought he was talking about ALL black people and that he was some magical unicorn negro??

Don't assume.

Teen pregnancy, poor education, drugs and crime don't just affect nor plague the inner cities for starters. Stop regurgitating misinformation.

I don't care what percentage of Black people he is attempting to disparage. His speech was incoherent, and inaccurate.

I will repeat myself for the 100th time and if, you still don't get it you needn't bother replying.

Cosby holds the title of Dr. and is well respected. He could have found a much more articulate and positive approach to what he believes are issues that affect Blacks.

at fuckin 90 yrs old!!?

shit aint incoherent..

he jus didnt say it in a way to coddle ur feelings..

nothing he said was wrong and any reasonable person can see where he's commin from..

and jus off the sheer fact he's been championing black people for decades the muthafucka deserves the benefit of the doubt..

u know goddamn well that critique was constructive..

me jus now hearin it for the first time but all this time listenin to yall niggas bitch about what he said?? im more confised about yall's reactions than u are his words. smmfh

I am not going to keep going in circles when I have pointed out to you SOME of the inaccuracies in this incoherent rant.

I have conceded long ago that I don't believe he meant harm and recognized his contributions. However, none of that absolves him of this poor incoherent and inaccurate rant. I agree you are confused. Perhaps you should engage in a different topic more suited to your understanding?

only thing im confused on is u niggas gender..

i know yall are males but all i see is bitch..

u niggas literally sound like bitches..

i got one right now..

long story but she's here cause she needs me.. not the other way around.. im good regardless.. sorta like cosby..

and everytime she does somethin wrong i check it and the bitch get in her feelings.. she's probably gonna get fired today ..send her back to her piec of shit life and let her think about it.. crawl back correct..

but yeh.. after about an hr or two she hits me up apologizin about whatever we was arguin about cause AFTER MUCH THOUGHT she sees her error..

i give her that much over u niggas tho.. least she sees her faults.. eventually..

but fuck i look like tap dancin around her feelings??! i aint that type of nigga.. imma give it straight lace no chase..

and only real see real.. and u niggas lyin to urself and hearin that truth didnt sit well in ur stomach..

You keep thinking you know how other brothers get down in the world based on some posts. What I see is, someone with minimal reading comprehension and debate skills. You can continue to overlook cosby's blatant inaccuracies to aid you in your continued dick riding.

I respect cosby and everything he has done for black folks. He has great track within the community. I believe what he is currently experiencing is the reality of our white supremacists injustice system. However, I will bring him to task on this train wreck of half truths and inaccuracies.

so are you going over his whole life to bring him to task?

and who are you to bring him to task?

this is my problem with this....where is the respect for the elder who paved the way.

so now that he opened the door...if he stumbles we can shit on him even if he not speaking directly to us.

bring cosby to task?

i cant say alot of shit shocks me.......but this

are you serious?

the man is an idol in the black community where im from. travelled the world and tried to educate the black youth while helping families and still trying to help all while in a very racist america smashing down white chicks and respecting black women.

smdh....you killing my high nigga

but if we gonna bring him to task....we have a whole lotta task bringing to do. if 50 years can be trumped by the last 10....whos more fukked up?

if you can find the hutzpah to think you are on some level where you can question him....you are the one whos very misguided.

and miss me with that any man shit.....

this is a classic example of why blacks who make it say fukk it. cause lil niggas want to hold them to task.

nigga you adrein broner coming at jack johnson.

and again...we are not talking afrocentric people...we are talking fad people.

why cant yall separate the two?

You're high?

The only high Dr. Cosby approves of is Quaaludes, so I think he is talking about you as well, not matter how successful you are.

 

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