Well let's finish it out. Fair or foul. Pound cake speech and other videos. long read.

[CapitalB]

i am assuming all those that hate him....would come and read this to point out the wrong he said and how he down talking.

this is often a point when saying he aint shit......

cmon yall

dont let me down

i even posted it for you.

did he say something wrong? or were you told he said something wrong?

cmon ...let get it.

i gotta take a nap now

You should take a nap. What's to point out when it's sitting there in our faces? Anyone reading that incoherent mess and can say with a straight face that's the truth is being 100% dishonest.

Who got shot in the back of the head for stealing a coca cola.? I don't recall that incident. I do recall the Latasha Harlins incident though. Which, had absolutely nothing to do with poor parenting.

Cosby says "50 percent dropout, the rest are in prison".. Seriously? These numbers can be corroborated?

Cosby degrades Blacks that choose to identify with Africa. He even goes as far as saying they know nothing about Africa. Seriously?

He spends a good portion of shitting on Black women. His not making any sense. Especially with recent data saying that the most educated segment of American society is in fact Black Women.

I am appalled that I even have to point this out to forum full of Black Men. WTF?

These are some of the minor errors that cosby makes during his rant.

soooooooo its safe to assume u didn't get that he was talking about the problems that are plaguing the inner cities??

u thought he was talking about ALL black people and that he was some magical unicorn negro??

Don't assume.

Teen pregnancy, poor education, drugs and crime don't just affect nor plague the inner cities for starters. Stop regurgitating misinformation.

I don't care what percentage of Black people he is attempting to disparage. His speech was incoherent, and inaccurate.

I will repeat myself for the 100th time and if, you still don't get it you needn't bother replying.

Cosby holds the title of Dr. and is well respected. He could have found a much more articulate and positive approach to what he believes are issues that affect Blacks.

at fuckin 90 yrs old!!?

shit aint incoherent..

he jus didnt say it in a way to coddle ur feelings..

nothing he said was wrong and any reasonable person can see where he's commin from..

and jus off the sheer fact he's been championing black people for decades the muthafucka deserves the benefit of the doubt..

u know goddamn well that critique was constructive..

me jus now hearin it for the first time but all this time listenin to yall niggas bitch about what he said?? im more confised about yall's reactions than u are his words. smmfh

I am not going to keep going in circles when I have pointed out to you SOME of the inaccuracies in this incoherent rant.

I have conceded long ago that I don't believe he meant harm and recognized his contributions. However, none of that absolves him of this poor incoherent and inaccurate rant. I agree you are confused. Perhaps you should engage in a different topic more suited to your understanding?

only thing im confused on is u niggas gender..

i know yall are males but all i see is bitch..

u niggas literally sound like bitches..

i got one right now..

long story but she's here cause she needs me.. not the other way around.. im good regardless.. sorta like cosby..

and everytime she does somethin wrong i check it and the bitch get in her feelings.. she's probably gonna get fired today ..send her back to her piec of shit life and let her think about it.. crawl back correct..

but yeh.. after about an hr or two she hits me up apologizin about whatever we was arguin about cause AFTER MUCH THOUGHT she sees her error..

i give her that much over u niggas tho.. least she sees her faults.. eventually..

but fuck i look like tap dancin around her feelings??! i aint that type of nigga.. imma give it straight lace no chase..

and only real see real.. and u niggas lyin to urself and hearin that truth didnt sit well in ur stomach..

You keep thinking you know how other brothers get down in the world based on some posts. What I see is, someone with minimal reading comprehension and debate skills. You can continue to overlook cosby's blatant inaccuracies to aid you in your continued dick riding.

I respect cosby and everything he has done for black folks. He has great track within the community. I believe what he is currently experiencing is the reality of our white supremacists injustice system. However, I will bring him to task on this train wreck of half truths and inaccuracies.

nah actually i know how "other brothers get down in the world" cause im from that world..

u dont see me beggin for data, thats gonna be slanted anyway, cause i dont need it.. u do.. u pseudo intellectual niggas dont believe shit less its in a book or documentary meanwhile im in these streets...

u cant think outside a box ur mentally limited and thats why u couldnt grasp what Cosby was sayin.. it wasnt "text book"

You keep playing the corny role like you know how brothers get down and what they've been through. Some of us are just smarter then people like you nor find the need to advertise.

street smarts>>>

sorry im not as "well studied" as u..

im too busy livin and learnin from life..

to say i dont know how brothers get down and what theyve been through makes u look like the fuckin idiot! smmfh & lol

nigga i can read a chapter out of ur book before u can walk a day in my shoes...

Surely you jest. So, you know what I do\done outside of this forum? You know where\how I was raised and my personal background?

You know the backgrounds of other men that post here?

You surely seem to think you do with your 1st grade accusations.

But I'm the idiot? Yeah, I'll continue to cyber slap you in this debate. I suggested earlier that you move to a topic more suited to your understanding but some of us are gluttons for punishment. I suppose?

yeh aiight square..

 

[Kwan Dai]

i am assuming all those that hate him....would come and read this to point out the wrong he said and how he down talking.

this is often a point when saying he aint shit......

cmon yall

dont let me down

i even posted it for you.

did he say something wrong? or were you told he said something wrong?

cmon ...let get it.

i gotta take a nap now

You should take a nap. What's to point out when it's sitting there in our faces? Anyone reading that incoherent mess and can say with a straight face that's the truth is being 100% dishonest.

Who got shot in the back of the head for stealing a coca cola.? I don't recall that incident. I do recall the Latasha Harlins incident though. Which, had absolutely nothing to do with poor parenting.

Cosby says "50 percent dropout, the rest are in prison".. Seriously? These numbers can be corroborated?

Cosby degrades Blacks that choose to identify with Africa. He even goes as far as saying they know nothing about Africa. Seriously?

He spends a good portion of shitting on Black women. His not making any sense. Especially with recent data saying that the most educated segment of American society is in fact Black Women.

I am appalled that I even have to point this out to forum full of Black Men. WTF?

These are some of the minor errors that cosby makes during his rant.

soooooooo its safe to assume u didn't get that he was talking about the problems that are plaguing the inner cities??

u thought he was talking about ALL black people and that he was some magical unicorn negro??

Don't assume.

Teen pregnancy, poor education, drugs and crime don't just affect nor plague the inner cities for starters. Stop regurgitating misinformation.

I don't care what percentage of Black people he is attempting to disparage. His speech was incoherent, and inaccurate.

I will repeat myself for the 100th time and if, you still don't get it you needn't bother replying.

Cosby holds the title of Dr. and is well respected. He could have found a much more articulate and positive approach to what he believes are issues that affect Blacks.

at fuckin 90 yrs old!!?

shit aint incoherent..

he jus didnt say it in a way to coddle ur feelings..

nothing he said was wrong and any reasonable person can see where he's commin from..

and jus off the sheer fact he's been championing black people for decades the muthafucka deserves the benefit of the doubt..

u know goddamn well that critique was constructive..

me jus now hearin it for the first time but all this time listenin to yall niggas bitch about what he said?? im more confised about yall's reactions than u are his words. smmfh

I am not going to keep going in circles when I have pointed out to you SOME of the inaccuracies in this incoherent rant.

I have conceded long ago that I don't believe he meant harm and recognized his contributions. However, none of that absolves him of this poor incoherent and inaccurate rant. I agree you are confused. Perhaps you should engage in a different topic more suited to your understanding?

only thing im confused on is u niggas gender..

i know yall are males but all i see is bitch..

u niggas literally sound like bitches..

i got one right now..

long story but she's here cause she needs me.. not the other way around.. im good regardless.. sorta like cosby..

and everytime she does somethin wrong i check it and the bitch get in her feelings.. she's probably gonna get fired today ..send her back to her piec of shit life and let her think about it.. crawl back correct..

but yeh.. after about an hr or two she hits me up apologizin about whatever we was arguin about cause AFTER MUCH THOUGHT she sees her error..

i give her that much over u niggas tho.. least she sees her faults.. eventually..

but fuck i look like tap dancin around her feelings??! i aint that type of nigga.. imma give it straight lace no chase..

and only real see real.. and u niggas lyin to urself and hearin that truth didnt sit well in ur stomach..

You keep thinking you know how other brothers get down in the world based on some posts. What I see is, someone with minimal reading comprehension and debate skills. You can continue to overlook cosby's blatant inaccuracies to aid you in your continued dick riding.

I respect cosby and everything he has done for black folks. He has great track within the community. I believe what he is currently experiencing is the reality of our white supremacists injustice system. However, I will bring him to task on this train wreck of half truths and inaccuracies.

nah actually i know how "other brothers get down in the world" cause im from that world..

u dont see me beggin for data, thats gonna be slanted anyway, cause i dont need it.. u do.. u pseudo intellectual niggas dont believe shit less its in a book or documentary meanwhile im in these streets...

u cant think outside a box ur mentally limited and thats why u couldnt grasp what Cosby was sayin.. it wasnt "text book"

You keep playing the corny role like you know how brothers get down and what they've been through. Some of us are just smarter then people like you nor find the need to advertise.

street smarts>>>

sorry im not as "well studied" as u..

im too busy livin and learnin from life..

to say i dont know how brothers get down and what theyve been through makes u look like the fuckin idiot! smmfh & lol

nigga i can read a chapter out of ur book before u can walk a day in my shoes...

Surely you jest. So, you know what I do\done outside of this forum? You know where\how I was raised and my personal background?

You know the backgrounds of other men that post here?

You surely seem to think you do with your 1st grade accusations.

But I'm the idiot? Yeah, I'll continue to cyber slap you in this debate. I suggested earlier that you move to a topic more suited to your understanding but some of us are gluttons for punishment. I suppose?

yeh aiight square..

Take that nap cornball.

 

[blackrain]

so he says 50%

the real number might be 20%

so that makes him wrong on everything?

yea ok

You left out the other 50% are in prison.

And that's just one inaccuracy.

Stop being dishonest just to make a non-point.



We can recognize cosby as a great while correcting errors in his horrendous speech.

I'm confused as to why the bold is so hard for some to get. As if saying he's wrong about 1 or 2 things means you're questioning his entire existence and every good thing he's done. Nobody should be above reproach and part of being a good leader is being able to acknowledge your own mistepps not pretending they dont exist

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i am assuming all those that hate him....would come and read this to point out the wrong he said and how he down talking.

this is often a point when saying he aint shit......

cmon yall

dont let me down

i even posted it for you.

did he say something wrong? or were you told he said something wrong?

cmon ...let get it.

i gotta take a nap now

You should take a nap. What's to point out when it's sitting there in our faces? Anyone reading that incoherent mess and can say with a straight face that's the truth is being 100% dishonest.

Who got shot in the back of the head for stealing a coca cola.? I don't recall that incident. I do recall the Latasha Harlins incident though. Which, had absolutely nothing to do with poor parenting.

Cosby says "50 percent dropout, the rest are in prison".. Seriously? These numbers can be corroborated?

Cosby degrades Blacks that choose to identify with Africa. He even goes as far as saying they know nothing about Africa. Seriously?

He spends a good portion of shitting on Black women. His not making any sense. Especially with recent data saying that the most educated segment of American society is in fact Black Women.

I am appalled that I even have to point this out to forum full of Black Men. WTF?

These are some of the minor errors that cosby makes during his rant.

soooooooo its safe to assume u didn't get that he was talking about the problems that are plaguing the inner cities??

u thought he was talking about ALL black people and that he was some magical unicorn negro??

Don't assume.

Teen pregnancy, poor education, drugs and crime don't just affect nor plague the inner cities for starters. Stop regurgitating misinformation.

I don't care what percentage of Black people he is attempting to disparage. His speech was incoherent, and inaccurate.

I will repeat myself for the 100th time and if, you still don't get it you needn't bother replying.

Cosby holds the title of Dr. and is well respected. He could have found a much more articulate and positive approach to what he believes are issues that affect Blacks.

at fuckin 90 yrs old!!?

shit aint incoherent..

he jus didnt say it in a way to coddle ur feelings..

nothing he said was wrong and any reasonable person can see where he's commin from..

and jus off the sheer fact he's been championing black people for decades the muthafucka deserves the benefit of the doubt..

u know goddamn well that critique was constructive..

me jus now hearin it for the first time but all this time listenin to yall niggas bitch about what he said?? im more confised about yall's reactions than u are his words. smmfh

I am not going to keep going in circles when I have pointed out to you SOME of the inaccuracies in this incoherent rant.

I have conceded long ago that I don't believe he meant harm and recognized his contributions. However, none of that absolves him of this poor incoherent and inaccurate rant. I agree you are confused. Perhaps you should engage in a different topic more suited to your understanding?

only thing im confused on is u niggas gender..

i know yall are males but all i see is bitch..

u niggas literally sound like bitches..

i got one right now..

long story but she's here cause she needs me.. not the other way around.. im good regardless.. sorta like cosby..

and everytime she does somethin wrong i check it and the bitch get in her feelings.. she's probably gonna get fired today ..send her back to her piec of shit life and let her think about it.. crawl back correct..

but yeh.. after about an hr or two she hits me up apologizin about whatever we was arguin about cause AFTER MUCH THOUGHT she sees her error..

i give her that much over u niggas tho.. least she sees her faults.. eventually..

but fuck i look like tap dancin around her feelings??! i aint that type of nigga.. imma give it straight lace no chase..

and only real see real.. and u niggas lyin to urself and hearin that truth didnt sit well in ur stomach..

You keep thinking you know how other brothers get down in the world based on some posts. What I see is, someone with minimal reading comprehension and debate skills. You can continue to overlook cosby's blatant inaccuracies to aid you in your continued dick riding.

I respect cosby and everything he has done for black folks. He has great track within the community. I believe what he is currently experiencing is the reality of our white supremacists injustice system. However, I will bring him to task on this train wreck of half truths and inaccuracies.

so are you going over his whole life to bring him to task?

and who are you to bring him to task?

this is my problem with this....where is the respect for the elder who paved the way.

so now that he opened the door...if he stumbles we can shit on him even if he not speaking directly to us.

bring cosby to task?

i cant say alot of shit shocks me.......but this

are you serious?

the man is an idol in the black community where im from. travelled the world and tried to educate the black youth while helping families and still trying to help all while in a very racist america smashing down white chicks and respecting black women.

smdh....you killing my high nigga

but if we gonna bring him to task....we have a whole lotta task bringing to do. if 50 years can be trumped by the last 10....whos more fukked up?

if you can find the hutzpah to think you are on some level where you can question him....you are the one whos very misguided.

and miss me with that any man shit.....

this is a classic example of why blacks who make it say fukk it. cause lil niggas want to hold them to task.

nigga you adrein broner coming at jack johnson.

and again...we are not talking afrocentric people...we are talking fad people.

why cant yall separate the two?

You're killing your own high because, you aren't using your third eye and are acting uncivilized.

I can certainly separate the two. However, we have an obligation to correct our elders as they are obligated to correct us juniors. We should be holding each other to a standard that entails us being honest and accurate.

None of your corny comparisons are going to change the fact that I have pointed out cosbys inaccuracies the ones that you and the rest of the dishonest supporters want to be held up as truths.

I support cosby in truth. Not when he is in error. And whether some one is senior or junior when should do our very best to approach and engage each other with respect even when are found to be in error.

who came first ...the chicken or the egg?

the elder had lived life but the youngin can tell the elder what he did wrong...but the elder gotta take what the youngin says first before the youngin can listen to the elder?

so if the elder see the youngin going down the wrong path..if he tries to correct the youngin like he did so many other youngins...the youngin can question the inaccuracies thus questioning his classism views and holding him accountable yet, while not correcting themselves.

then a youngin going down the right path can catch feelings because he thinks the elder was talking about all youngins rather than just the youngin going down the wrong path even when he states hes talking about the wrong path youngin.

if the elder is incoherent....the youngin has to be too sensitive.

but we can expect the future youngins to be accurate in their assessment of life.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

and dont talk about my high nigga

 

[Kwan Dai]

so he says 50%

the real number might be 20%

so that makes him wrong on everything?

yea ok

You left out the other 50% are in prison.

And that's just one inaccuracy.

Stop being dishonest just to make a non-point.



We can recognize cosby as a great while correcting errors in his horrendous speech.

I'm confused as to why the bold is so hard for some to get. As if saying he's wrong about 1 or 2 things means you're questioning his entire existence and every good thing he's done. Nobody should be above reproach and part of being a good leader is being able to acknowledge your own mistepps not pretending they dont exist

No need for confusion. These dudes are buggin.

 

[7figz]

Everybody's a Black statistician nowadays, and there's always somebody else to say "well it's true".

MFs believe the racist narratives, stereotypes, and fake statistics put out by racist White America and Black self haters, and don't make their own observations or critical thinking for an objective point of view.

soooo...you dont see a problem in the black community?

a large problem?

Of course there are problems - it doesn't mean everybody got a crackhead moms and a father who ran off, and dropped out of school to become a part time drug dealer, rapper, and NBA player.

These MFs just like to shit on Black people and quote the most negative bullshit stats they could think of while not acknowledging any positive shit.

but hes only speaking on those who are the problem.

what part of that dont you get?

are you attached to it since you defending it...or are you not apart but witnessed it? or are you oblivious?

hes says it again here:
=share

bruh you being a no-groe

I don't have the time to go in on the number of things you're off-base on in that post.

What am I "defending" and how ?

Because I don't fully agree with MFs who don't got shit but negativity to say about Black people ?

Do you know how many Black people I know, and in my family, graduated college - got kids, family, houses, careers, and all that "good" shit ? Wore baggy pants, listened to rap, etc... but never fit the rest of the bullshit negative stereotyped outcomes these "critics" like to preach ?

So what the fuck I look like casting some big negative generalization (and simplication) of Black people and our issues when it's both MFs making it and not making it ? I'm supposed to agree with MFs who say "It's because they wearing the pants hanging down and listening to the rap music that they're out there killing each other high on lean and being killed by cops" ?

Fuck that bullshit, rather be a "ne-groe" or whatever word classist-type Black people want to use to try and distinguish themselves from other Black people any day than be spitting the same pessimistic bullshit White America spits.

at the bolded.....

so why are you talking offense to it?

and for you to say he has nothing but negative to say about black people......

my freind....you are lost and only want to hear that.

you are on his side..and dont even realize it. hes not speaking to them. he said it himself in the video i posted for you to hear him say it out his own mouth.

I wasn't even speaking directly about Cosby. There's a lot of characters like him nowadays who highlight the most negative shit they can say about us (hell if it's true or not). We're definitely not on the same side.

Also, it's not even about me being offended - I just don't agree with it.

Even with what you quoted from me (knowing successful Black people), I would not be out here disparaging the other Black people and over-simplifying Black issues like most of these types (not saying Cosby) does. Also it doesn't even come across as they're only addressing the ones they're criticizing. A MF can post in a thread "Black people lack critical thinking" and have a bunch of MFs co-signing it. Where's the qualification that he's only talking about a specific group of Black people ? Where's the facts to back it up ? What about the ones who do ? Where's the stats - nothing.

What was helping Black people more ? All this criticism from other Black people or Black people who spoke to other Black people about our problems with an all-inclusive view of what was going on and didn't make casual assumptions to complex issues without offering a solution ?

Example: Heard a dude say the reason for violence in the Black community is because of rap. Can he prove it ? What about movies ? What's the theme - you can blame Black people for rap.

MFs so mad about people sagging their jeans and listening to rap that they'll bring it up when you mention cops getting away with killing Black people... along with any other issues faced by Black people. "What about Black on Black crime ?"

 

[Kwan Dai]

We should all strive for sensitivity. But you are correct us youngings should be more sensitive to our elders. But the sensitivity you mentioned is what is at heart of my critique of cosby rant. That's why I am not in here bashing cosby. I am pointing out his errors. Respectively.

In order for our youngings to be accurate WE first have to supply them with accurate information. They are already being fed enough lies.

The reality this younger generation doesn't give a shit about cosby the way our generation did. So, between iffy assed speeches and these rape allegations he's dug himself into a hole.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Everybody's a Black statistician nowadays, and there's always somebody else to say "well it's true".

MFs believe the racist narratives, stereotypes, and fake statistics put out by racist White America and Black self haters, and don't make their own observations or critical thinking for an objective point of view.

soooo...you dont see a problem in the black community?

a large problem?

Of course there are problems - it doesn't mean everybody got a crackhead moms and a father who ran off, and dropped out of school to become a part time drug dealer, rapper, and NBA player.

These MFs just like to shit on Black people and quote the most negative bullshit stats they could think of while not acknowledging any positive shit.

but hes only speaking on those who are the problem.

what part of that dont you get?

are you attached to it since you defending it...or are you not apart but witnessed it? or are you oblivious?

hes says it again here:
=share

bruh you being a no-groe

I don't have the time to go in on the number of things you're off-base on in that post.

What am I "defending" and how ?

Because I don't fully agree with MFs who don't got shit but negativity to say about Black people ?

Do you know how many Black people I know, and in my family, graduated college - got kids, family, houses, careers, and all that "good" shit ? Wore baggy pants, listened to rap, etc... but never fit the rest of the bullshit negative stereotyped outcomes these "critics" like to preach ?

So what the fuck I look like casting some big negative generalization (and simplication) of Black people and our issues when it's both MFs making it and not making it ? I'm supposed to agree with MFs who say "It's because they wearing the pants hanging down and listening to the rap music that they're out there killing each other high on lean and being killed by cops" ?

Fuck that bullshit, rather be a "ne-groe" or whatever word classist-type Black people want to use to try and distinguish themselves from other Black people any day than be spitting the same pessimistic bullshit White America spits.

at the bolded.....

so why are you talking offense to it?

and for you to say he has nothing but negative to say about black people......

my freind....you are lost and only want to hear that.

you are on his side..and dont even realize it. hes not speaking to them. he said it himself in the video i posted for you to hear him say it out his own mouth.

I wasn't even speaking directly about Cosby. There's a lot of characters like him nowadays who highlight the most negative shit they can say about us (hell if it's true or not). We're definitely not on the same side.

Also, it's not even about me being offended - I just don't agree with it.

Even with what you quoted from me (knowing successful Black people), I would not be out here disparaging the other Black people and over-simplifying Black issues like most of these types (not saying Cosby) does. Also it doesn't even come across as they're only addressing the ones they're criticizing. A MF can post in a thread "Black people lack critical thinking" and have a bunch of MFs co-signing it. Where's the qualification that he's only talking about a specific group of Black people ? Where's the facts to back it up ? What about the ones who do ? Where's the stats - nothing.

What was helping Black people more ? All this criticism from other Black people or Black people who spoke to other Black people about our problems with an all-inclusive view of what was going on and didn't make casual assumptions to complex issues without offering a solution ?

Example: Heard a dude say the reason for violence in the Black community is because of rap. Can he prove it ? What about movies ? What's the theme - you can blame Black people for rap.

MFs so mad about people sagging their jeans and listening to rap that they'll bring it up when you mention cops getting away with killing Black people... along with any other issues faced by Black people. "What about Black on Black crime ?"

Brilliant!

 

[SolemnSauce]

To late to ask for bullet points and cliff notes?

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Everybody's a Black statistician nowadays, and there's always somebody else to say "well it's true".

MFs believe the racist narratives, stereotypes, and fake statistics put out by racist White America and Black self haters, and don't make their own observations or critical thinking for an objective point of view.

soooo...you dont see a problem in the black community?

a large problem?

Of course there are problems - it doesn't mean everybody got a crackhead moms and a father who ran off, and dropped out of school to become a part time drug dealer, rapper, and NBA player.

These MFs just like to shit on Black people and quote the most negative bullshit stats they could think of while not acknowledging any positive shit.

but hes only speaking on those who are the problem.

what part of that dont you get?

are you attached to it since you defending it...or are you not apart but witnessed it? or are you oblivious?

hes says it again here:
=share

bruh you being a no-groe

I don't have the time to go in on the number of things you're off-base on in that post.

What am I "defending" and how ?

Because I don't fully agree with MFs who don't got shit but negativity to say about Black people ?

Do you know how many Black people I know, and in my family, graduated college - got kids, family, houses, careers, and all that "good" shit ? Wore baggy pants, listened to rap, etc... but never fit the rest of the bullshit negative stereotyped outcomes these "critics" like to preach ?

So what the fuck I look like casting some big negative generalization (and simplication) of Black people and our issues when it's both MFs making it and not making it ? I'm supposed to agree with MFs who say "It's because they wearing the pants hanging down and listening to the rap music that they're out there killing each other high on lean and being killed by cops" ?

Fuck that bullshit, rather be a "ne-groe" or whatever word classist-type Black people want to use to try and distinguish themselves from other Black people any day than be spitting the same pessimistic bullshit White America spits.

at the bolded.....

so why are you talking offense to it?

and for you to say he has nothing but negative to say about black people......

my freind....you are lost and only want to hear that.

you are on his side..and dont even realize it. hes not speaking to them. he said it himself in the video i posted for you to hear him say it out his own mouth.

I wasn't even speaking directly about Cosby. There's a lot of characters like him nowadays who highlight the most negative shit they can say about us (hell if it's true or not). We're definitely not on the same side.

Also, it's not even about me being offended - I just don't agree with it.

Even with what you quoted from me (knowing successful Black people), I would not be out here disparaging the other Black people and over-simplifying Black issues like most of these types (not saying Cosby) does. Also it doesn't even come across as they're only addressing the ones they're criticizing. A MF can post in a thread "Black people lack critical thinking" and have a bunch of MFs co-signing it. Where's the qualification that he's only talking about a specific group of Black people ? Where's the facts to back it up ? What about the ones who do ? Where's the stats - nothing.

What was helping Black people more ? All this criticism from other Black people or Black people who spoke to other Black people about our problems with an all-inclusive view of what was going on and didn't make casual assumptions to complex issues without offering a solution ?

Example: Heard a dude say the reason for violence in the Black community is because of rap. Can he prove it ? What about movies ? What's the theme - you can blame Black people for rap.

MFs so mad about people sagging their jeans and listening to rap that they'll bring it up when you mention cops getting away with killing Black people... along with any other issues faced by Black people. "What about Black on Black crime ?"

i agree.

but i can go a few places with this...but ill try to stay focused.

when i hear cosby talk...i here the uncle at the bbq that only wants right for his family.

he might stumble over his words and some shit wont make sense......but whats more important, me telling him his numbers are wrong or me understanding him wanting the best for me and is angry if i dont acheive it.

now....if i am doing my best but i know my cousins are fukking up. then i know...i happen to be in attendance while he went the fukk off....but i know who its directed towards and know who its not directed towards.

i get the point your getting at...

but heres the thing...yall both would be right in the rap example. some people dont have figures to look up to and only know what they think is right by what they hear and see. others are not that mentally weak. we have to admit to it all...both sides. there is a reason certain music is played over other choices on certain urban stations. we have to take that on the chin and fix it.

alot of problems are in our community...we have to address it.

honestly...i dont have time for someone to tell me in the nicest way possible.

im no bitch and if i need to be yelled at....i allow it becuase i can fukk up and need to be corrected.

a true listener can listen to whoever and however....and know if its directed at them or like i said....if they happen to be in attendance.

yall ever been in a business meeting and the boss yelling at the room about poor performance?

but you know your shit is on point?

do you go to the boss afterwards to point his inaccuracies?

 

[2stepz_ahead]

so he says 50%

the real number might be 20%

so that makes him wrong on everything?

yea ok

You left out the other 50% are in prison.

And that's just one inaccuracy.

Stop being dishonest just to make a non-point.



We can recognize cosby as a great while correcting errors in his horrendous speech.

I'm confused as to why the bold is so hard for some to get. As if saying he's wrong about 1 or 2 things means you're questioning his entire existence and every good thing he's done. Nobody should be above reproach and part of being a good leader is being able to acknowledge your own mistepps not pretending they dont exist

we are not pretending they dont exist......

but why is that point standing out so much as oppose to the problems hes speaking about?

why are yall acting like THEY dont exist.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

even if he gets his numbers right...the problems still exist.

then what?

 

[D. Morgan]

Some of this shit is just weird to me.

I can't say fuck that speech cause Cosby got some stats wrong when I understand the context he saying these things in and I get the overall message that he is trying to convey.

It would be nice if he had gotten the numbers correct but that shit really trivial when its really about the message of the fucked up positions some black people are in.

 

[HarlemThumzUp]

nothing wrong with the pound cake part we as parents supposed to be checcin kids atleast OUR OWN when we hear broken english especially that whole " we aint " " is you " bullshit I correct my son when I hear him speaking like that cuz I was raised that way. The issue is there are fewer elders than there were before, knowledge has been lost roles have been reversed etc..

 

[2stepz_ahead]

We should all strive for sensitivity. But you are correct us youngings should be more sensitive to our elders. But the sensitivity you mentioned is what is at heart of my critique of cosby rant. That's why I am not in here bashing cosby. I am pointing out his errors. Respectively.

In order for our youngings to be accurate WE first have to supply them with accurate information. They are already being fed enough lies.

The reality this younger generation doesn't give a shit about cosby the way our generation did. So, between iffy assed speeches and these rape allegations he's dug himself into a hole.

cotdamn it...

just when i thought i was out you pull me back in.....

i was with you until the bolded

they should care....they should know

and how he dig himself into it? he fighting allegations.

if anything these youngins should know a black man can be accused of anything and is guilty until proven innocent so dont be so fast to judge another black man on the word of a white woman when your a black man.

and i wont say 50% of the time

 

[Kwan Dai]

Everybody's a Black statistician nowadays, and there's always somebody else to say "well it's true".

MFs believe the racist narratives, stereotypes, and fake statistics put out by racist White America and Black self haters, and don't make their own observations or critical thinking for an objective point of view.

soooo...you dont see a problem in the black community?

a large problem?

Of course there are problems - it doesn't mean everybody got a crackhead moms and a father who ran off, and dropped out of school to become a part time drug dealer, rapper, and NBA player.

These MFs just like to shit on Black people and quote the most negative bullshit stats they could think of while not acknowledging any positive shit.

but hes only speaking on those who are the problem.

what part of that dont you get?

are you attached to it since you defending it...or are you not apart but witnessed it? or are you oblivious?

hes says it again here:
=share

bruh you being a no-groe

I don't have the time to go in on the number of things you're off-base on in that post.

What am I "defending" and how ?

Because I don't fully agree with MFs who don't got shit but negativity to say about Black people ?

Do you know how many Black people I know, and in my family, graduated college - got kids, family, houses, careers, and all that "good" shit ? Wore baggy pants, listened to rap, etc... but never fit the rest of the bullshit negative stereotyped outcomes these "critics" like to preach ?

So what the fuck I look like casting some big negative generalization (and simplication) of Black people and our issues when it's both MFs making it and not making it ? I'm supposed to agree with MFs who say "It's because they wearing the pants hanging down and listening to the rap music that they're out there killing each other high on lean and being killed by cops" ?

Fuck that bullshit, rather be a "ne-groe" or whatever word classist-type Black people want to use to try and distinguish themselves from other Black people any day than be spitting the same pessimistic bullshit White America spits.

at the bolded.....

so why are you talking offense to it?

and for you to say he has nothing but negative to say about black people......

my freind....you are lost and only want to hear that.

you are on his side..and dont even realize it. hes not speaking to them. he said it himself in the video i posted for you to hear him say it out his own mouth.

I wasn't even speaking directly about Cosby. There's a lot of characters like him nowadays who highlight the most negative shit they can say about us (hell if it's true or not). We're definitely not on the same side.

Also, it's not even about me being offended - I just don't agree with it.

Even with what you quoted from me (knowing successful Black people), I would not be out here disparaging the other Black people and over-simplifying Black issues like most of these types (not saying Cosby) does. Also it doesn't even come across as they're only addressing the ones they're criticizing. A MF can post in a thread "Black people lack critical thinking" and have a bunch of MFs co-signing it. Where's the qualification that he's only talking about a specific group of Black people ? Where's the facts to back it up ? What about the ones who do ? Where's the stats - nothing.

What was helping Black people more ? All this criticism from other Black people or Black people who spoke to other Black people about our problems with an all-inclusive view of what was going on and didn't make casual assumptions to complex issues without offering a solution ?

Example: Heard a dude say the reason for violence in the Black community is because of rap. Can he prove it ? What about movies ? What's the theme - you can blame Black people for rap.

MFs so mad about people sagging their jeans and listening to rap that they'll bring it up when you mention cops getting away with killing Black people... along with any other issues faced by Black people. "What about Black on Black crime ?"

i agree.

but i can go a few places with this...but ill try to stay focused.

when i hear cosby talk...i here the uncle at the bbq that only wants right for his family.

he might stumble over his words and some shit wont make sense......but whats more important, me telling him his numbers are wrong or me understanding him wanting the best for me and is angry if i dont acheive it.

now....if i am doing my best but i know my cousins are fukking up. then i know...i happen to be in attendance while he went the fukk off....but i know who its directed towards and know who its not directed towards.

i get the point your getting at...

but heres the thing...yall both would be right in the rap example. some people dont have figures to look up to and only know what they think is right by what they hear and see. others are not that mentally weak. we have to admit to it all...both sides. there is a reason certain music is played over other choices on certain urban stations. we have to take that on the chin and fix it.

alot of problems are in our community...we have to address it.

honestly...i dont have time for someone to tell me in the nicest way possible.

im no bitch and if i need to be yelled at....i allow it becuase i can fukk up and need to be corrected.

a true listener can listen to whoever and however....and know if its directed at them or like i said....if they happen to be in attendance.

yall ever been in a business meeting and the boss yelling at the room about poor performance?

but you know your shit is on point?

do you go to the boss afterwards to point his inaccuracies?

But that uncle is your uncle and you know he has your best interest at heart. We don't necessarily know this to be true of outsiders.

I to am not of the opinion that everything needs to be said, nicely. But that is because, of my own thick skin. However, when dealing with large groups people of various circumstances it becomes imperative to speak in a way in which,everyone feels comfortable, motivated and inspired. Otherwise you risk turning people off and your message doesn't carry.

I do. Yo after my review this year I was heated. But I knew if I'd addressed it at the time I would have said all of the wrong things. So, after about a month I walked into my mgrs office and professionally told him how he played me because, of his interpretations and inaccuracies. He responded by saying he wished I had come to him earlier and that my feedback will enable to not make the mistakes not just with me but with others. So, hell yes. I am checking folks I am just built that way.

 

[Kwan Dai]

We should all strive for sensitivity. But you are correct us youngings should be more sensitive to our elders. But the sensitivity you mentioned is what is at heart of my critique of cosby rant. That's why I am not in here bashing cosby. I am pointing out his errors. Respectively.

In order for our youngings to be accurate WE first have to supply them with accurate information. They are already being fed enough lies.

The reality this younger generation doesn't give a shit about cosby the way our generation did. So, between iffy assed speeches and these rape allegations he's dug himself into a hole.

cotdamn it...

just when i thought i was out you pull me back in.....

i was with you until the bolded

they should care....they should know

and how he dig himself into it? he fighting allegations.

if anything these youngins should know a black man can be accused of anything and is guilty until proven innocent so dont be so fast to judge another black man on the word of a white woman when your a black man.

and i wont say 50% of the time

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Everybody's a Black statistician nowadays, and there's always somebody else to say "well it's true".

MFs believe the racist narratives, stereotypes, and fake statistics put out by racist White America and Black self haters, and don't make their own observations or critical thinking for an objective point of view.

soooo...you dont see a problem in the black community?

a large problem?

Of course there are problems - it doesn't mean everybody got a crackhead moms and a father who ran off, and dropped out of school to become a part time drug dealer, rapper, and NBA player.

These MFs just like to shit on Black people and quote the most negative bullshit stats they could think of while not acknowledging any positive shit.

but hes only speaking on those who are the problem.

what part of that dont you get?

are you attached to it since you defending it...or are you not apart but witnessed it? or are you oblivious?

hes says it again here:
=share

bruh you being a no-groe

I don't have the time to go in on the number of things you're off-base on in that post.

What am I "defending" and how ?

Because I don't fully agree with MFs who don't got shit but negativity to say about Black people ?

Do you know how many Black people I know, and in my family, graduated college - got kids, family, houses, careers, and all that "good" shit ? Wore baggy pants, listened to rap, etc... but never fit the rest of the bullshit negative stereotyped outcomes these "critics" like to preach ?

So what the fuck I look like casting some big negative generalization (and simplication) of Black people and our issues when it's both MFs making it and not making it ? I'm supposed to agree with MFs who say "It's because they wearing the pants hanging down and listening to the rap music that they're out there killing each other high on lean and being killed by cops" ?

Fuck that bullshit, rather be a "ne-groe" or whatever word classist-type Black people want to use to try and distinguish themselves from other Black people any day than be spitting the same pessimistic bullshit White America spits.

at the bolded.....

so why are you talking offense to it?

and for you to say he has nothing but negative to say about black people......

my freind....you are lost and only want to hear that.

you are on his side..and dont even realize it. hes not speaking to them. he said it himself in the video i posted for you to hear him say it out his own mouth.

I wasn't even speaking directly about Cosby. There's a lot of characters like him nowadays who highlight the most negative shit they can say about us (hell if it's true or not). We're definitely not on the same side.

Also, it's not even about me being offended - I just don't agree with it.

Even with what you quoted from me (knowing successful Black people), I would not be out here disparaging the other Black people and over-simplifying Black issues like most of these types (not saying Cosby) does. Also it doesn't even come across as they're only addressing the ones they're criticizing. A MF can post in a thread "Black people lack critical thinking" and have a bunch of MFs co-signing it. Where's the qualification that he's only talking about a specific group of Black people ? Where's the facts to back it up ? What about the ones who do ? Where's the stats - nothing.

What was helping Black people more ? All this criticism from other Black people or Black people who spoke to other Black people about our problems with an all-inclusive view of what was going on and didn't make casual assumptions to complex issues without offering a solution ?

Example: Heard a dude say the reason for violence in the Black community is because of rap. Can he prove it ? What about movies ? What's the theme - you can blame Black people for rap.

MFs so mad about people sagging their jeans and listening to rap that they'll bring it up when you mention cops getting away with killing Black people... along with any other issues faced by Black people. "What about Black on Black crime ?"

i agree.

but i can go a few places with this...but ill try to stay focused.

when i hear cosby talk...i here the uncle at the bbq that only wants right for his family.

he might stumble over his words and some shit wont make sense......but whats more important, me telling him his numbers are wrong or me understanding him wanting the best for me and is angry if i dont acheive it.

now....if i am doing my best but i know my cousins are fukking up. then i know...i happen to be in attendance while he went the fukk off....but i know who its directed towards and know who its not directed towards.

i get the point your getting at...

but heres the thing...yall both would be right in the rap example. some people dont have figures to look up to and only know what they think is right by what they hear and see. others are not that mentally weak. we have to admit to it all...both sides. there is a reason certain music is played over other choices on certain urban stations. we have to take that on the chin and fix it.

alot of problems are in our community...we have to address it.

honestly...i dont have time for someone to tell me in the nicest way possible.

im no bitch and if i need to be yelled at....i allow it becuase i can fukk up and need to be corrected.

a true listener can listen to whoever and however....and know if its directed at them or like i said....if they happen to be in attendance.

yall ever been in a business meeting and the boss yelling at the room about poor performance?

but you know your shit is on point?

do you go to the boss afterwards to point his inaccuracies?

But that uncle is your uncle and you know he has your best interest at heart. We don't necessarily know this to be true of outsiders.

I to am not of the opinion that everything needs to be said, nicely. But that is because, of my own thick skin. However, when dealing with large groups people of various circumstances it becomes imperative to speak in a way in which,everyone feels comfortable, motivated and inspired. Otherwise you risk turning people off and your message doesn't carry.

I do. Yo after my review this year I was heated. But I knew if I'd addressed it at the time I would have said all of the wrong things. So, after about a month I walked into my mgrs office and professionally told him how he played me because, of his interpretations and inaccuracies. He responded by saying he wished I had come to him earlier and that my feedback will enable to not make the mistakes not just with me but with others. So, hell yes. I am checking folks I am just built that way.

now with you just said......image stewing over decades....

you think you would walk in with the same calmness and professionalism?

 

[Kwan Dai]

Everybody's a Black statistician nowadays, and there's always somebody else to say "well it's true".

MFs believe the racist narratives, stereotypes, and fake statistics put out by racist White America and Black self haters, and don't make their own observations or critical thinking for an objective point of view.

soooo...you dont see a problem in the black community?

a large problem?

Of course there are problems - it doesn't mean everybody got a crackhead moms and a father who ran off, and dropped out of school to become a part time drug dealer, rapper, and NBA player.

These MFs just like to shit on Black people and quote the most negative bullshit stats they could think of while not acknowledging any positive shit.

but hes only speaking on those who are the problem.

what part of that dont you get?

are you attached to it since you defending it...or are you not apart but witnessed it? or are you oblivious?

hes says it again here:
=share

bruh you being a no-groe

I don't have the time to go in on the number of things you're off-base on in that post.

What am I "defending" and how ?

Because I don't fully agree with MFs who don't got shit but negativity to say about Black people ?

Do you know how many Black people I know, and in my family, graduated college - got kids, family, houses, careers, and all that "good" shit ? Wore baggy pants, listened to rap, etc... but never fit the rest of the bullshit negative stereotyped outcomes these "critics" like to preach ?

So what the fuck I look like casting some big negative generalization (and simplication) of Black people and our issues when it's both MFs making it and not making it ? I'm supposed to agree with MFs who say "It's because they wearing the pants hanging down and listening to the rap music that they're out there killing each other high on lean and being killed by cops" ?

Fuck that bullshit, rather be a "ne-groe" or whatever word classist-type Black people want to use to try and distinguish themselves from other Black people any day than be spitting the same pessimistic bullshit White America spits.

at the bolded.....

so why are you talking offense to it?

and for you to say he has nothing but negative to say about black people......

my freind....you are lost and only want to hear that.

you are on his side..and dont even realize it. hes not speaking to them. he said it himself in the video i posted for you to hear him say it out his own mouth.

I wasn't even speaking directly about Cosby. There's a lot of characters like him nowadays who highlight the most negative shit they can say about us (hell if it's true or not). We're definitely not on the same side.

Also, it's not even about me being offended - I just don't agree with it.

Even with what you quoted from me (knowing successful Black people), I would not be out here disparaging the other Black people and over-simplifying Black issues like most of these types (not saying Cosby) does. Also it doesn't even come across as they're only addressing the ones they're criticizing. A MF can post in a thread "Black people lack critical thinking" and have a bunch of MFs co-signing it. Where's the qualification that he's only talking about a specific group of Black people ? Where's the facts to back it up ? What about the ones who do ? Where's the stats - nothing.

What was helping Black people more ? All this criticism from other Black people or Black people who spoke to other Black people about our problems with an all-inclusive view of what was going on and didn't make casual assumptions to complex issues without offering a solution ?

Example: Heard a dude say the reason for violence in the Black community is because of rap. Can he prove it ? What about movies ? What's the theme - you can blame Black people for rap.

MFs so mad about people sagging their jeans and listening to rap that they'll bring it up when you mention cops getting away with killing Black people... along with any other issues faced by Black people. "What about Black on Black crime ?"

i agree.

but i can go a few places with this...but ill try to stay focused.

when i hear cosby talk...i here the uncle at the bbq that only wants right for his family.

he might stumble over his words and some shit wont make sense......but whats more important, me telling him his numbers are wrong or me understanding him wanting the best for me and is angry if i dont acheive it.

now....if i am doing my best but i know my cousins are fukking up. then i know...i happen to be in attendance while he went the fukk off....but i know who its directed towards and know who its not directed towards.

i get the point your getting at...

but heres the thing...yall both would be right in the rap example. some people dont have figures to look up to and only know what they think is right by what they hear and see. others are not that mentally weak. we have to admit to it all...both sides. there is a reason certain music is played over other choices on certain urban stations. we have to take that on the chin and fix it.

alot of problems are in our community...we have to address it.

honestly...i dont have time for someone to tell me in the nicest way possible.

im no bitch and if i need to be yelled at....i allow it becuase i can fukk up and need to be corrected.

a true listener can listen to whoever and however....and know if its directed at them or like i said....if they happen to be in attendance.

yall ever been in a business meeting and the boss yelling at the room about poor performance?

but you know your shit is on point?

do you go to the boss afterwards to point his inaccuracies?

But that uncle is your uncle and you know he has your best interest at heart. We don't necessarily know this to be true of outsiders.

I to am not of the opinion that everything needs to be said, nicely. But that is because, of my own thick skin. However, when dealing with large groups people of various circumstances it becomes imperative to speak in a way in which,everyone feels comfortable, motivated and inspired. Otherwise you risk turning people off and your message doesn't carry.

I do. Yo after my review this year I was heated. But I knew if I'd addressed it at the time I would have said all of the wrong things. So, after about a month I walked into my mgrs office and professionally told him how he played me because, of his interpretations and inaccuracies. He responded by saying he wished I had come to him earlier and that my feedback will enable to not make the mistakes not just with me but with others. So, hell yes. I am checking folks I am just built that way.

now with you just said......image stewing over decades....

you think you would walk in with the same calmness and professionalism?

um yes. Because, over decades you have the opportunity to grow and correct. I could see if he said, this back in the 80's..

I tend to prefer the martial approach. Your sifu\shifu should grow wiser and more patient as the years go by.