Dez Bryant Says Black People Are The Reason They Are Unsuccessful,Not White People...

[Shizlansky]

There is systematic racism, but we as a group still have no grasp financial literacy in this country and how to build generational wealth. I truly believe our problem as a people is more financial base more than anything else. Just generation after generation of poverty and not establishing shit to leave for the next generation.

You're suppose to do better than your parents imo. Build on what they did.

Fam this is the truth, Jews and Asians have trust accounts set up for their kids. Even the poorer ones have that shit set up and still find a way to send nuff of dem paycheck to it. They may not have much in the bank but they have a decent amount for their kids locked away in an account to pay for first or second year post secondary education or just have as a gift to make sure they're straight.

I don't see that with a lot with black people and that's a huge problem. They're out there I just wish there was more of em. I've even seen folk diss on brothers for having a father that provides for them saying he ain't a hustler and relies on his parents. The nigga was 14 fam 14 SMMFH, bunch of fatherless niggas dissing on niggas for having one that shit ain't cool.

How do you know what poor asians are doing?

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

what?

so there aren't many blk men who walk around with preconceived and usually negative opinions and ideas about women?

that said, i'd argue we all have our prejudices ....just some more than others

"niggas ain't shit" - Random Black woman.

"A nigga can't do shit for me" - another or the same Black woman.

"All niggas is dogs anyways" - more random Black women.

an I can go on for days...

ok

doesn't mean misogyny doesn't exist within our community

what about the

"bitches aint shit"

"I need a women that knows how to submit"

"you can't trust these hoes"

AND did you miss the part where I said we all have our prejudices ????? meaning blk women too lol

You made a post shittin' on Black men for doing the same shit Black women do to us. Everything else you wrote was meaningless past that point.

smh

I wasn't trying to be malicious

I love blk men....I'm in love with a blk man.... I am the child of a blk man...I am the sister of blk men...lol

that said, I do believe america including the blk community struggles with misogyny, racism, classism, xenophobia, etc

to suggest otherwise you are either naïve or being disingenuous

Misogyny? No. Black men love Black women unconditionally. Just 'cause someone says some shit you don't like that doesn't make it misogyny; it just means you don't like it. "Hate" is a strong word and Black men have too much love for the Black woman to call the words of a few knuckleheads "hatred". "Ignorant"? Yeah, I can agree with that. Misogyny? Hell fuck nawl.

Black people in America don't have the ability to be racist. We can be prejudiced, bigoted, or what have you, but not racist. You need power to be racist and that's just some shit we don't have.

Classist? Not even close. You have shit like that for real in India, not here. A black man of wealth usually has no problem mingling with or treating a poor man like a human being because 99% of the time he came from dirt himself. A lot of rappers get robbed because they still try to be around their hood and peoples that was there when they were trying to get put on. If we were classist, that type of shit would never happen.

Didn't mean to insinuate that blk ppl are actively racist, classist, xenophobic on par with the rest of america... but we are impacted by these ills and most Americans in general

Though once some niggas get some money and or fame they do start acting like OJ in his prime towards other blks

I dont think men consciously hate women, specifically blk men

Women can be misogynist

And by misogny i mean the dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women

That said, don't patronize me

I know what misogyny looks like and its manifestations

And america largely encourages and condones misogyny

Most obvious manifestation is that men dominate and lead in politics and the highest paying industries

There have been academic studies that strongly suggest work by women systematically devalued

/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/monkey-cage/wp/2013/10/04/why-is-work-by-women-systematically-devalued/

Partly the reason why Reagans welfare queen narrative continues to persist and undermine policies that have shown to lift women out of poverty

Just look at what is going on with Bill OReiley. And the support of Trump

Just look at some of our laws. In some state i think Texas we got law that require a women to make funeral arrangements for the fetus if she wants an abortion... as if the decision for most women isnt already hard enough

When we think rape victim we think of women unfortunately. That said, we have certain states that rape victims have to put money towards the cost of a rape kit. In certain areas rape kits go untested for yrs

Shit not that long ago certain parts of the country it was ok for a husband to abuse and force his wife into having sex. in addition, saying “no” to one’s husband was once as grounds for him to get a divorce. You think the attitudes, beliefs that spawned these laws and the publics complicity have magically disappeared ?

Look at how many white and blk entertainers encourage the objectification and degradation of women. Look at how the blk and white media publications regularly objectifies women and reduces them to just body parts

You got a large contingent of non blk and blk grown ppl who believe women are lesser beings and/or exist here to submit to the will of a man based off little to nothing

Women are more likely to be killed by a person of the opposie sex. And young women are dying at alarming rates by the hands of male intimate partners, blk women included...

It's problematic bruh...not just me being sensitive

 

[blackrain]

It's funny on certain issues a key theme is "You can't tell someone else about their own experiences"...yet people will continuously tell other people their experiences aren't valid because they don't line up w/ what they want to believe as opposed to what someone who is literally living the experience is telling them what is going on...and that goes for race and gender

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

This is counter productive as usual

 

[konceptjones]

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Didn't mean to insinuate that blk ppl are actively racist, classist, xenophobic on par with the rest of america... but we are impacted by these ills and most Americans in general

Though once some niggas get some money and or fame they do start acting like OJ in his prime towards other blks

I dont think men consciously hate women, specifically blk men

Women can be misogynist

And by misogny i mean the dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women

Then it's not misogyny. Misogyny is *hatred* of women. Not the rest of that shit.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/misogyny

Definition of misogyny: a hatred of women

Your definition is the new shit feminists have added in recent years. It has nothing to do with hatred. A dude can call a woman a "bitch" in one sentence and love his mother, sisters, nieces, aunts, etc to death. Would do anything for them even if it meant his own death.

That said, don't patronize me

I know what misogyny looks like and its manifestations

Clearly you don't if that's all you got.

And america largely encourages and condones misogyny

Most obvious manifestation is that men dominate and lead in politics and the highest paying industries

There have been academic studies that strongly suggest work by women systematically devalued

Women are the largest group when it comes to voter turnout across the board. If men dominate in politics, it's because women put them in office. Plain and simple.

The majority of the highest paying industries are also the most dangerous. Women by and large simply don't apply for those positions and when they do they're typically paid MORE than their male counterparts.

In 2011 I was approached by our DoD contacts to take on a position that would have me stationed out of Ft Irwin, just outside of Barstow, CA. I would have been deployed to Afghanistan for 6 months or a year at a time, my pick. During that time I was deployed my company was going to pay me 2.5 times my normal salary (IIRC the cap was whatever the VPOTUS made), hazard/danger pay, post differential PLUS a good portion of that money was tax free. The program was open to anyone willing to do it, male or female.

Everyone that showed interest were men. Not one woman had any interest in going to a hotspot like Afghanistan, even for the shitload of money being offered.

Since I wasn't on a project at the time I said "fuck it", spoke to my wife about it and she was on board with the whole thing. I accepted the position but before the ink dried on the contract DARPA pulled the plug on in.

Not every woman is like that. Some take advantage like the IC's own Kimi but the number is extremely slim.

Partly the reason why Reagans welfare queen narrative continues to persist and undermine policies that have shown to lift women out of poverty

The narrative itself doesn't undermine it; people who live up to the "welfare queen" narrative do. If there wasn't a specific person you could point to that was abusing the system then we could all agree the shit was a lie, but we can. I would wager everyone on this site knows someone abusing the system.

Just look at what is going on with Bill OReiley. And the support of Trump

Neither of which has anything to do with hatred of women...

Just look at some of our laws. In some state i think Texas we got law that require a women to make funeral arrangements for the fetus if she wants an abortion... as if the decision for most women isnt already hard enough

When we think rape victim we think of women unfortunately. That said, we have certain states that rape victims have to put money towards the cost of a rape kit. In certain areas rape kits go untested for yrs

Women put those men in office because they don't believe in abortion. Got a problem with it then get more women to vote for politicians that support abortion rights... and it still isn't misogyny.

Shit not that long ago certain parts of the country it was ok for a husband to abuse and force his wife into having sex. in addition, saying “no” to one’s husband was once as grounds for him to get a divorce. You think the attitudes, beliefs that spawned these laws and the publics complicity have magically disappeared ?

No, that was a long time ago. Well before I was born and I'm one of the oldest cats here.

Look at how many white and blk entertainers encourage the objectification and degradation of women. Look at how the blk and white media publications regularly objectifies women and reduces them to just body parts

You act as if the same can't be said of ads targeting female consumers. Men are regularly reduced to a bare chest, biceps, and a smile.

You got a large contingent of non blk and blk grown ppl who believe women are lesser beings and/or exist here to submit to the will of a man based off little to nothing

yeah, no... That's some fairytale make-believe shit there. This ain't the 1890's. There's no "large contingent" that's some shit you and your people have made up.

Women are more likely to be killed by a person of the opposie sex. And young women are dying at alarming rates by the hands of male intimate partners, blk women included...

It's problematic bruh...not just me being sensitive

And men are more likely to be killed by another man, what's your point?

 

[farris2k1]

Man cacs sure do love when blacks speak out

Against other blacks, and what shannon sharp said was real talk, but he just gets called a "race baiter" god i fucking hate that shit

 

[mrtdb]

Maybe if Dez had worked hard enough to catch that football his white QB could have stayed with him.

 

[mrtdb]

Athletes always say this type of shit until they realize they ain't shit compared to the people signing their checks.

I always point to the Clippers players when they found out the previous owner only considered them to be slightly more wealthy niggas.

plus I don't take anything serious from a nigga who gets paid to get his brain rattled into his skull. Homeboy lowkey been stupid since college, but because he made this type of statement all the sports analyst will "magically" forget how stupid he's always been and act like this is profound information.

 

[32DaysOfInfiniti]

meh.. what is successful then? He catches footballs for a white owner. I've flown halfway across the country to meet clients for my own programming business. You'd think that in a league that's mostly black and almost 100 years old; that there would be a competeing league of mostly black owners that have become "successful" in the nfl and learned the business so they can do for their own. But that's just a thought. Maybe people would hate on a player that plays for a regional team and makes $75k a year. He's probably right on some level. We were suppose to support each other first. All those sit ins and pushes for integration were smoke screens. We held eachother back, instead of demanding to be served at white diners, we should have been making and supporting our own diners. That's why we ain't got nothing today. You can't have the pride of ownership if you don't own nothing. How many black people work for this Vanilla company that AHH forum is powered by? Plus, we don't dream big enough. At least one of us should have come along and said, " I want to make it to the league, then I want to own a league." In before a black person says that's a terrrible idea and points out all the problems with it.

What your saying sounds good, but all your why's literally are answered because they couldn't.

Systematic racism is bigger than a mind state. Why didn't they support their own diners? Because the only diner near them was white owned and traveling to find one wasn't always practical.

Being denied work opportunities, loans, access to connections and the development of critical thinking, the act of owning/developing your environment becomes an impossibility when you barely control your own mind.

The problem is that people need to be accountable for themselves, but it becomes hard to tell people that when they are taught they are not good enough for not having. Everybody is not stable, many react much differently to not having and will ruin their own and others lives to get it. Some people will sit there and try to dream up solutions because they are allotted the comfort to do so.

This issue is much to complicated to play the blame game, its more about how can we teach people that the best option is always to work together. Create more opportunities, approve upon the way you are living, preserve your health, ask many questions, grow up. Don't lead your whole life trend hopping and always worried about what is cool like a child, this problem plagues every community but its worse on the black because we are a much smaller percentage.

I just wish white people/media would stop making it a question as to whether this country is racist. It's treated like a deep dark secret and thats what keeps our minds in shackles. They always frame it like they are just discovering that racism exists no matter what year it is. As long as we continue to treat this like a new topic, we will never get past it. It's almost like the phrase should have been #blacklivesdontmatter because stating the obvious gave them an out with #alllivesmatter and the whole "No were all equal" bullshit. No, we are not equal, we are far superior and thats why they shit on us for 500 years to keep us down.

 

[DillaDeaf]

Smh I hate when athletes try to act enlightened and tell ppl how to make it. Nothing about your comeup is relatable to the avg person. He's not a coon to me for what he said, but he's really tone deaf.

The fuck?

Don't associated my ears with that coon nigga, woman !!

 

[deadeye]

Smh at an athlete comparing his success to a regular person.

Imagine if that inarticulate nigga had to use his mind instead of athleticism to make a living, he'd change his tune

Yeah, it's hard to believe that Dez actually wrote that post on his instagram.

From what I've seen of him during interviews, he doesn't seem articulate enough to type up something that coherent.

He probably told someone else what he had on his mind and had them type it up.

 

[nujerz84]

Many of the same white folks co-signing him would be calling him all kinda of names if he spoke out like Shannon Sharpe.

Aint no one held more accountable for there actions and punished for it than folks of color in this country.

Man fuck Dez Bryant.

 

[Ol Jay's]

Athletes always say this type of shit until they realize they ain't shit compared to the people signing their checks.

I always point to the Clippers players when they found out the previous owner only considered them to be slightly more wealthy niggas.

plus I don't take anything serious from a nigga who gets paid to get his brain rattled into his skull. Homeboy lowkey been stupid since college, but because he made this type of statement all the sports analyst will "magically" forget how stupid he's always been and act like this is profound information.

somehow dumb niggas with money equate that to being smart

I have yet to meet a smart nigga with money make a statement about black people holding themselves back, it's always the dumb ones

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

There is systematic racism, but we as a group still have no grasp financial literacy in this country and how to build generational wealth. I truly believe our problem as a people is more financial base more than anything else. Just generation after generation of poverty and not establishing shit to leave for the next generation.

You're suppose to do better than your parents imo. Build on what they did.

Because we tend to waist our time impressing the neighbourgh next door and subconciously white supremacist.

What is the first move we do when we get money? WE BUY A CAR AND CLOTHES AND OTHER STUFF TO shine and shade on others!!

What are the Jews doing in the same situation? SAVING

INVESTING

NETWORKING

FOR THE NEXT GENERATION!!!

What are the asians doing?

THE SAME SHIT TOO!!!

AND THATS THE DIFFERENCE.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

People amy laugh at my new posting personna. Anyway i think its time to IMPLEMENT INTO OUR LANDSCAPE THE NOTIONS OF

- TEAM WORK

- CONNECTION

- WEALTH TRANSMISSION

- MODESTY

- SENSE OF PURPOSE

- PUTING THE FIRST BRICKS FOR THE NEXT GENERATION FUTURE HOUSE

- SAVING MONEY

- INVESTING MONEY

- PATIIENCE

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Why nobody supports @JonnyRoccIT new brand?

Why dont we eleavate him ?

Because I , we are fuck niggas not even able to elevate our own!!.

WE ALL HAVE TO CHANGE OUR MINDSET!!!

It would be a shame if we start buying his stuff after some white celeb rock it!!

 

[D. Morgan]

There is systematic racism, but we as a group still have no grasp financial literacy in this country and how to build generational wealth. I truly believe our problem as a people is more financial base more than anything else. Just generation after generation of poverty and not establishing shit to leave for the next generation.

You're suppose to do better than your parents imo. Build on what they did.

Because we tend to waist our time impressing the neighbourgh next door and subconciously white supremacist.

What is the first move we do when we get money? WE BUY A CAR AND CLOTHES AND OTHER STUFF TO shine and shade on others!!

What are the Jews doing in the same situation? SAVING

INVESTING

NETWORKING

FOR THE NEXT GENERATION!!!

What are the asians doing?

THE SAME SHIT TOO!!!

AND THATS THE DIFFERENCE.

I wholeheartedly agree that we as black people need to do more long term growth planning for own lives and our families.

At the same time its hard for some black people to look at long term planning when early death is so prevalent to them.

Its not that folks don't want to do it. Many don't know how and with early death on their minds some look at it like I need to enjoy some of the fruit of my labor now because I just might not be here tomorrow for whatever reason. Thing that escapes many is that they can actually do both saving for the future and enjoy some of it right now. That goes back to some us not knowing how to actually save and grow money.

I understand both sides thought processes.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Im in the mindset that MY DOLLAR COUNT!!

I might not like his stuff, but just BECAUSE MY BLACK FELLOW AMERICAN BROTHER IS STARTING SOMETHING I HAVE TO GIVE HIM A HAND.

The same way as @2stepz_ahead is inspiring me helping me changing enhancing my life with example and counceling!!

ITS NOT ALWAYS DOLLARS. IT MAY BE A TIP, A HINT, AN IDEA. THE GOAL IS TO DIRECT OUR POSITIVE ENERGY TOWARD EACH OTHER WHEREVER WE ARE!!

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

And next month ill buy 100 dollars worth of @JonnyRoccIT 's LEGIT STUFF!!!

Phil Nike got alreday enough he doesnt need my dollars

Same as Adidas and others big brand.

I want to be part of John's rise to the top..

I want to beleive in that nigga.

I want to see him shine

I want to see him one day in Paris biggest avenue in a Porshe!!!

Cause i believe he can

I believe in my niggas

I have to support my niggas!!!

WE HAVE TO SUPPORT OUR NIGGAS!!!

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

And Dez must spend his energy and dollars on positivity not on these kind of UNNECESSARY TOPICS!! What do we get from this thread? FUSSING AND FUSSING!!

What do we get from Dez declarations? NOTHING POSITIVE AND CONSTRUCTING.