Okay, time to put your money where your mouth is, RnR

[janklow]

Maybe the ones you know

that's how they're classified

As well as you should be, because I never made that claim. What I said was the Ancient Egyptians were not Caucasian. I actually acknowledged the mixing of the many ethnic groups if you read my posts. If you read them..If you read them..

you seem far too agitated by this article for someone who's acknowledging that Tut had any white in him

BTW, Bob Marley was not half white. His father was not white he would be classed as an quadroon, because his father's mother was half-black

white enough for this point

And a little journalistic integrity lesson for ya..When you lift a quote from someone don't take out parts that dissolve your argument that would be dishonest. The ........ thing kind of shows you don't have a leg to stand on.

i don't think you actually know what the phrase "journalistic integrity" means if you think it applies here. but yeah, it's weird that i would quote the part i want to respond to instead of the whole post all the time

 

[bambu]

that's how they're classified

you seem far too agitated by this article for someone who's acknowledging that Tut had any white in him

white enough for this point

i don't think you actually know what the phrase "journalistic integrity" means if you think it applies here. but yeah, it's weird that i would quote the part i want to respond to instead of the whole post all the time

My top five rappers of all time.. 1. Dylan 2. Dylan 3. Dylan 4. Dylan 5. Dylan

 

[A.J. Trillzynski]

I guess if his mother was white I could agree with you. That and the fact his father was born in Jamaica would uh take care of the geographic sense of the word. Plus the small little fact that Bob Marley's father was not white because his mother was half black.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norval_Marley

Just saying..................

yea, that guy is obviously not the least bit Caucasian

 

[And Step]

yea, that guy is obviously not the least bit Caucasian

Yeah and I obviously didn't state this

BTW, Bob Marley was not half white. His father was not white he would be classed as an quadroon, because his father's mother was half-black

Is this a white man?

Is this a white man?

Is this a white man?

 

[And Step]

you seem far too agitated by this article for someone who's acknowledging that Tut had any white in him

I guess this is your way of acknowledging but not acknowledging you were in error.

white enough for this point

I don't think an arbitrary white enough statement is the definition for Caucasian. Malcolm X would be considered Caucasian

And for the record, the phrase"having white in him" is a misnomer, Black people can produce shades of people from black to white without ever copulating with one. All peoples find their origin in Blacks. Caucasians are just watered down Black people.

So this is your daddy:

i don't think you actually know what the phrase "journalistic integrity" means if you think it applies here. but yeah, it's weird that i would quote the part i want to respond to instead of the whole post all the time

LOL. I knew you would say some shit like that.
Sensationalism, inappropriate use of sound bites, taking quotes out of context, media bias, propaganda, spiking have long been associated with concerns of journalistic integrity so yeah, it fits.

 

[janklow]

My top five rappers of all time.. 1. Dylan 2. Dylan 3. Dylan 4. Dylan 5. Dylan

he did spit hot fire

I guess this is your way of acknowledging but not acknowledging you were in error.

that would be incorrect. example: i did not post an angry rant as a response to anything in this thread

I don't think an arbitrary white enough statement is the definition for Caucasian. Malcolm X would be considered Caucasian

one thing you seem to have forgotten is that because this forum is filled with the most random racial classifications, i have long since reserved the right to make calls on this kind of thing. here we go:

Bob Marley's father = white dude

Malcolm X = black dude

And for the record, the phrase"having white in him" is a misnomer, Black people can produce shades of people from black to white without ever copulating with one. All peoples find their origin in Blacks. Caucasians are just watered down Black people. So this is your daddy:

not sure where this is going ... did you mean to post it to Prewett or something?

LOL. I knew you would say some shit like that.

Sensationalism, inappropriate use of sound bites, taking quotes out of context, media bias, propaganda, spiking have long been associated with concerns of journalistic integrity so yeah, it fits.

on the other hand, i am not a journalist, so journalist integrity has nothing to do with me and that would seem to resolve this for every single other poster on this forum except yourself (well, and a couple of the MOST crazy posters). but it's interesting to watch you try and justify it

 

[waterproof]

from Yahoo.com

A personal genomics company in Switzerland says they've reconstructed a DNA profile of King Tutankhamen by watching the Discovery Channel, claiming the results suggest more than half of Western European men are related to the boy king. But researchers who worked to decode Tut's genome in the first place say the claim is "unscientific."

Swiss genomics company iGENEA has launched a Tutankhamen DNA project based on what they say are genetic markers that appeared on a computer screen during a Discovery Channel special on the famous pharaoh's genetic lineage.

"Maybe they didn't know what they showed, but we got 16 markers from the Y chromosome from these pharaohs," Roman Scholz, the managing director of iGENEA, told LiveScience.

If the claims were true, it would put King Tut in a genetic profile group shared by more than half of Western European men. That would make those men relatives — albeit distant ones — of the pharaoh.

But Carsten Pusch, a geneticist at Germany's University of Tubingen who was part of the team that unraveled Tut's DNA from samples taken from his mummy and mummies of his family members, said that iGENEA's claims are "simply impossible." Pusch and his colleagues published part of their results, though not the Y-chromosome DNA, in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in 2010. The Y chromosome is the sex chromosome found only in males, and looking at the genes in this chromosome would show Tut's male lineage.

Pusch's team used snippets of Y-chromosome DNA to link Tut to his closest relatives, identifying his mom and dad. But they didn't publish the full genetic data that would allow genomics companies like iGENEA to link modern people to the Tutankhamen lineage. According to Scholz, that crucial data is what appeared on the Discovery Channel.

"Dr. Albert Zink from the EURAC [European Academy of Bolzano, an independent research center] in Bolzano and co-author of the 2010 JAMA publication screened the footage and confirmed that the company acts very unscientific," Pusch wrote in an email to LiveScience. "The Swiss company did not try to get into contact with us prior to launching their new Internet page."

The alleged Discovery Channel markers put Tut in a genetic profile group, or haplogroup, that also includes more than half of the men in Western Europe. Scholz said the company is now searching for the closest living relatives of Tutankhamen, men who share all 16 genetic markers on the pharaoh's supposed Y chromosome. Exact matches get a refund for their $179 to $399 test and will also get free additional DNA analysis.

The haplogroup R1b1a2, which iGENEA claims includes King Tut, arose 9,500 years ago in the Black Sea region. How Tut's ancestors would have gotten from that region to Egypt is unknown, but Scholz said iGENEA hopes to learn more by collecting more close and exact matches from modern people of Western European descent.

"The better the match, the more recent the common ancestor," Scholz said.

But people hoping to prove that they've got an ancestor in common with the notoriously sickly boy king should take iGENEA's claims with a grain of salt, Pusch said: "It appears that they try to better sell their DNA testing kit by using the media attention connected to King Tut."

KUTULU you is a lie and fraud and you eat liverworths with Extra Mayo you pork eating Gentile

 

[Valentinez A. Kaiser]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44026108/ns/technology_and_science-science/#.TjuJsoLm_oo

from Yahoo.com

"Dr. Albert Zink from the EURAC [European Academy of Bolzano, an independent research center] in Bolzano and co-author of the 2010 JAMA publication screened the footage and confirmed that the company acts very unscientific," Pusch wrote in an email to LiveScience. "The Swiss company did not try to get into contact with us prior to launching their new Internet page."

The alleged Discovery Channel markers put Tut in a genetic profile group, or haplogroup, that also includes more than half of the men in Western Europe. Scholz said the company is now searching for the closest living relatives of Tutankhamen, men who share all 16 genetic markers on the pharaoh's supposed Y chromosome. Exact matches get a refund for their $179 to $399 test and will also get free additional DNA analysis.

The haplogroup R1b1a2, which iGENEA claims includes King Tut, arose 9,500 years ago in the Black Sea region. How Tut's ancestors would have gotten from that region to Egypt is unknown, but Scholz said iGENEA hopes to learn more by collecting more close and exact matches from modern people of Western European descent.

"The better the match, the more recent the common ancestor," Scholz said.

But people hoping to prove that they've got an ancestor in common with the notoriously sickly boy king should take iGENEA's claims with a grain of salt, Pusch said: "It appears that they try to better sell their DNA testing kit by using the media attention connected to King Tut."

KUTULU you is a lie and fraud and you eat liverworths with Extra Mayo you pork eating Gentile

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/king-tut-unwrapped-king-tuts-paternal-line.html

This is what iGENEA watched I suspect.

For 129 (basic) or 399 (premium) Euros, you too can be DNA tested to see if you match with King Tut......................
Or Napoleon, or for The "Warrior Gene" or famous persons or any other gimmicks this company (who doesn't do the actual DNA tests collected from the kits it's selling) can come up with.

http://www.igenea.com/en/index.php?c=02
http://www.igenea.com/en/index.php?c=20

oh no, scientists try to FUND their research somehow

what a scam

lmao

Never said it was a scam just one of many marketing gimmicks used previously by this company and as such should be taken with a pinch of salt.

I hope he does, my only assumption would be that the racial ancestry doesn't match to present day Egyptians and because of that fact, there could be huge ramifications.

C/S bolded.

Also for those interested, I managed to find the original paper written by Hawass et al in JAMA

http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/303/7/638.full.pdf+html

...................................................

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

Your source is Yahoo.

Mine is DNA.

More to the point, I already explained why disagreements among scientists are both normal and healthy. You black racists will believe anything as long as it was in a Youtube video uploaded by a dude named AfriKa Sankofa Umbuto Zimbabwe, but you never ever question the methodology or rigor of such a source's claims.

The labs that sampled DNA from Tut (nh) had to sit on their conclusions for two years because they knew you racists would call Reverend Al to get the megaphone. Fact is, Tut was white. Facts is facts.

 

[And Step]

LMBAO, at this nigga trying to scurry like a rat after seeing IGA super dollar getting swiss cheesed up by some real geneticist for the get rich quick schemes in the guise of genetic research, ROTFLMAO.

LOL. This nigga talmbout yahoo when his first source is Reuters. His source says the same things yours does. You claim to have looked at the DNA reports but you have yet to provide proof, link, or anything past a site from a company who doesn't do the actually DNA testing, they farm it out to a lab in Taiwan, so basically you don't have the actual DNA reports. Them niggas is like the dry cleaners down the street who ship their shit over to a big plant to get their shit done.

So basically.........................you are full o shit.

Your "source" says Tut belongs to a Haploogroup that 50 percent of Western Europeans belong to. Doesn’t mean that he is white. Many Black people in the western hemisphere because of the race mixing that has gone on, tests would probably say the same thing. Probably most of the Creole, Malcolm X, Adam Clayton Powell and many would fall under that category. Matter of fact, many Europeans and Africans can belong to the same groupings.

For instance Haplogroup R1b (M343) has been found in people from -Europe, Caucasus, Central Asia, South Asia, North Africa, Central Africa. So your ancestor could have been Charlemagne, Genghis Khan, or Idi Amin. Oh yeah, I contacted IGENEA with and they will be getting back to me shortly. . And I ain't pay for chit.

IGENEA. Isn’t that a supermarket chain? SMH at me getting DNA testing at a place where I can get a pound of roast beef.

For anyone who is interested in some scientific findings about Tut's Life and Ancestry, not from the biological equivalent of the Wizard of Oz, here is a link:

http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/303....full.pdf+html

Tut had a clef palate and a club foot and a lot of other ailments. He was in really bad shape.

 

[NastyNasty]

Repost....DELETE

 

[kingblaze84]

King Tut was at least half white, I've heard this for about 5 months now. That's just from his paternal side though, I wonder what his maternal lineage is. I know Nas is hoping to God the other half is Black.

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

LMBAO.

thats coo, i aint read the rest of yo post because youre a racist who makes gay muslim aliases to whine at mods

i'm LMWATRTKTO

(laughing my white ass thats related to king tut off)

 

[And Step]

Not that it matters but,

King Tut Related to Half of European Men? Maybe Not

from Yahoo.com

A personal genomics company in Switzerland says they've reconstructed a DNA profile of King Tutankhamen by watching the Discovery Channel, claiming the results suggest more than half of Western European men are related to the boy king. But researchers who worked to decode Tut's genome in the first place say the claim is "unscientific."

Swiss genomics company iGENEA has launched a Tutankhamen DNA project based on what they say are genetic markers that appeared on a computer screen during a Discovery Channel special on the famous pharaoh's genetic lineage.

"Maybe they didn't know what they showed, but we got 16 markers from the Y chromosome from these pharaohs," Roman Scholz, the managing director of iGENEA, told LiveScience.

If the claims were true, it would put King Tut in a genetic profile group shared by more than half of Western European men. That would make those men relatives — albeit distant ones — of the pharaoh.

But Carsten Pusch, a geneticist at Germany's University of Tubingen who was part of the team that unraveled Tut's DNA from samples taken from his mummy and mummies of his family members, said that iGENEA's claims are "simply impossible." Pusch and his colleagues published part of their results, though not the Y-chromosome DNA, in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in 2010. The Y chromosome is the sex chromosome found only in males, and looking at the genes in this chromosome would show Tut's male lineage.

Pusch's team used snippets of Y-chromosome DNA to link Tut to his closest relatives, identifying his mom and dad. But they didn't publish the full genetic data that would allow genomics companies like iGENEA to link modern people to the Tutankhamen lineage. According to Scholz, that crucial data is what appeared on the Discovery Channel.

"Dr. Albert Zink from the EURAC [European Academy of Bolzano, an independent research center] in Bolzano and co-author of the 2010 JAMA publication screened the footage and confirmed that the company acts very unscientific," Pusch wrote in an email to LiveScience. "The Swiss company did not try to get into contact with us prior to launching their new Internet page."

The alleged Discovery Channel markers put Tut in a genetic profile group, or haplogroup, that also includes more than half of the men in Western Europe. Scholz said the company is now searching for the closest living relatives of Tutankhamen, men who share all 16 genetic markers on the pharaoh's supposed Y chromosome. Exact matches get a refund for their $179 to $399 test and will also get free additional DNA analysis.

The haplogroup R1b1a2, which iGENEA claims includes King Tut, arose 9,500 years ago in the Black Sea region. How Tut's ancestors would have gotten from that region to Egypt is unknown, but Scholz said iGENEA hopes to learn more by collecting more close and exact matches from modern people of Western European descent.

"The better the match, the more recent the common ancestor," Scholz said.

But people hoping to prove that they've got an ancestor in common with the notoriously sickly boy king should take iGENEA's claims with a grain of salt, Pusch said: "It appears that they try to better sell their DNA testing kit by using the media attention connected to King Tut."

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

You're lurking right now, And Sashay.

Tell the truth about why you made that homosexual alias to beef with mods. Same IP, same opinions. Bruh.

Bruh.

 

[And Step]

thats coo, i aint read the rest of yo post because youre a racist who makes gay muslim aliases to whine at mods

i'm LMWATRTKTO

(laughing my white ass thats related to king tut off)

Definitely Emotionally vested.

Not really important to me who youre related to.

Hey, I am related to King Richard the Lion Hearted. Sam's Club is conducting DNA testing right next to the auto center for 45.99. That's only the business member rate. Regular members pay 64.99.

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

Not really important to me who youre related to.

this faggot And Sashay been bitching for months about me and my background

lmao

 

[And Step]

You have me confused with ItsOver, I don't beef with mods. You do. That is why you have been banned so many times and have to rent accounts to sign in.

SMH, at homey having to use somebody elses IC credit card to get in. You just might be black. Tell the truth, you got that sign in name off a fat white chick didn't you?

Nigga got a prepaid IC account. SMH

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

he still lurkin right now damn

bruh

im on some pharaoh shit

DNA

pharaoh DNA bruh

u mad doggy

 

[NastyNasty]

ooops, didn't bother looking inside this 3 day old thread before making my own. I should have known there is no way OP could've passed up this opportunity.

Anyway, it seems as though the main contention the original researchers have with the swiss company is the sneaky way they obtained the partial dna profile. As far as I can tell, the data still stands until the full profile is finally released and analyzed.