Okay, time to put your money where your mouth is, RnR

[garv]

LONDON (Reuters) - Up to 70 percent of British men and half of all Western European men are related to the Egyptian Pharaoh Tutankhamun, geneticists in Switzerland said.

Scientists at Zurich-based DNA genealogy centre, iGENEA, reconstructed the DNA profile of the boy Pharaoh, who ascended the throne at the age of nine, his father Akhenaten and grandfather Amenhotep III, based on a film that was made for the Discovery Channel.



The results showed that King Tut belonged to a genetic profile group, known as haplogroup R1b1a2, to which more than 50 percent of all men in Western Europe belong, indicating that they share a common ancestor.

Among modern-day Egyptians this haplogroup contingent is below 1 percent, according to iGENEA.

"It was very interesting to discover that he belonged to a genetic group in Europe -- there were many possible groups in Egypt that the DNA could have belonged to," said Roman Scholz, director of the iGENEA Centre.

Around 70 percent of Spanish and 60 percent of French men also belong to the genetic group of the Pharaoh who ruled Egypt more than 3,000 years ago.

"We think the common ancestor lived in the Caucasus about 9,500 years ago," Scholz told Reuters.

It is estimated that the earliest migration of haplogroup R1b1a2 into Europe began with the spread of agriculture in 7,000 BC, according to iGENEA.

However, the geneticists were not sure how Tutankhamun's paternal lineage came to Egypt from its region of origin.

The centre is now using DNA testing to search for the closest living relatives of "King Tut."

"The offer has only been publicised for three days but we have already seen a lot of interest," Scholz told Reuters.

Your trolling can't work over here.

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

And you're refusing to believe it because you're a racist. How would they get a specific haplogroup without data? They wouldn't. That's why the blog you linked to is complaining about the AMOUNT of data they've released to the public, as scientists inevitably do after any big announcement. He even says they've got specific DNA information they've based the findings on and he's asking for more of it to be released to the public, which labs are always hesitant to do because they want to maximize profits before everybody else can duplicate their experiments.

I recognize that your impoverished mind has trouble with these concepts.

 

[garv]

And you're refusing to believe it because you're a racist. How would they get a specific haplogroup without data? They wouldn't. That's why the blog you linked to is complaining about the AMOUNT of data they've released to the public, as scientists inevitably do after any big announcement. He even says they've got specific DNA information they've based the findings on and he's asking for more of it to be released to the public, which labs are always hesitant to do because they want to maximize profits before everybody else can duplicate their experiments.

I recognize that your impoverished mind has trouble with these concepts.

Smh what don't you understand about the fact that they used a screenshot rather than findings from the Mummy to conduct their research?

You seriously can't be this stupid, the company that did the findings said this themselves 'GENEA, reconstructed the DNA profile of the boy Pharaoh, who ascended the throne at the age of nine, his father Akhenaten and grandfather Amenhotep III, based on a film that was made for the Discovery Channel.'

First all you have to understand the type of company IGENEA are, they are not a science research lab but a profit corporation, they did not use actual samples from King Tut to conduct their research because that has not been released. The research they conducted is no more than mere speculation.

IGNEA are trying to get people a match king tut DNA kit, thousands of people across the world will be suckered into believing that they may share the same DNA as King Tut.

http://www.igenea.com/en/index.php?c=62

Therefore IGNEA are attempting to hustle people out their money and no doubt many like yourself would fall for it, anybody with an ounce of sense and knowledge on this subject would not pay any credence to this report.

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

You keep saying the same thing over and over again and I keep trying to calmly and rationally explain to you that you're incorrect. "Based on a film" does not mean they simply watched the show. It means they had access to the same raw DNA data as the labs involved in the Discovery doc. Apparently, they sat on the conclusions for two years while doing additional analysis, but probably also because racists like yourself would get the megaphones out and pull the race card.

 

[garv]

You keep saying the same thing over and over again and I keep trying to calmly and rationally explain to you that you're incorrect. "Based on a film" does not mean they simply watched the show. It means they had access to the same raw DNA data as the labs involved in the Discovery doc. Apparently, they sat on the conclusions for two years while doing additional analysis, but probably also because racists like yourself would get the megaphones out and pull the race card.

Lmao, i thought you said this...

"Bruh, I read both of the DNA studies with the hard data taken from the mummies last night"

Also the tests would prove nothing, whats the highest populations with of R1B, white populations of Northern Europe and the Hausas of Sudan and various peoples around the area of Chad at 35% and 40%.

There are R lineages that exists in Africa with no influx from Europeans.

But i'm not going to entertain your troll thread anymore cause clearly you have no idea of what your talk about

 

[garv]

iGENEA was able to reconstruct the Y-DNA profile of Tutankhamun, his father Akhenaten and his grandfather Amenhotep III with the help of a recording of the Discovery Channel.

Troll thread.

 

[dan_the_man.com]

sumbody lied..

 

[waterproof]

Wow, your source is a blog. Mine is DNA.

But I shouldn't brag, I am a privileged member of royalty, after all.

GTFOHWTBS Ktulu, take that shit back to Planet Ill in "Have I got News for you" forum, you pushing the same shit over there. Those uneducated brothers might eat that shit up in your Original Egyptians Aint Black thread, but it aint flying over here. Brothers over here got that Truth and educated.

Now as my grandpa would of say when he runnin the animals out of the garden "SHOO ON OUTTA HERE"

 

[Jonas.dini]

Lmao, this thread is comedy

 

[Valentinez A. Kaiser]

iGENEA was able to reconstruct the Y-DNA profile of Tutankhamun, his father Akhenaten and his grandfather Amenhotep III with the help of a recording of the Discovery Channel.

Troll thread.

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/king-tut-unwrapped-king-tuts-paternal-line.html

This is what iGENEA watched I suspect.

For 129 (basic) or 399 (premium) Euros, you too can be DNA tested to see if you match with King Tut......................

Or Napoleon, or for The "Warrior Gene" or famous persons or any other gimmicks this company (who doesn't do the actual DNA tests collected from the kits it's selling) can come up with.

http://www.igenea.com/en/index.php?c=02

http://www.igenea.com/en/index.php?c=20

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

oh no, scientists try to FUND their research somehow

what a scam

lmao

 

[garv]

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/king-tut-unwrapped-king-tuts-paternal-line.html

This is what iGENEA watched I suspect.

For 129 (basic) or 399 (premium) Euros, you too can be DNA tested to see if you match with King Tut......................
Or Napoleon, or for The "Warrior Gene" or famous persons or any other gimmicks this company (who doesn't do the actual DNA tests collected from the kits it's selling) can come up with.

http://www.igenea.com/en/index.php?c=02
http://www.igenea.com/en/index.php?c=20

Yep why hasn't Zawi Hawass publish the results?

 

[janklow]

I seriously doubt that people would call a man of Hittite/Turkish/Syrian descent Caucasian

all are, in fact, considered white people

Saying that Tutankhamen and Western Europeans share a common ancestor is like saying Barack Obama( who youth photos look very much like the young TUT) and Queen Elizabeth share a common ancestor. ... Bob Marley shares a common ancestor with Prince Charles are you going to say he is Caucasian?

Barack Obama = half white

Bob Marley = half white

i am confused as to where you are going with this "no way Tut is part white" argument

 

[kingblaze84]

King Tut was at least half white.....what's the big deal? Egypt had some Black pharoahs, that's a fact, but it also likely had some white ones.

What's the big fucking deal? As a Black man I never felt much of a connection to Egypt anyway, as far as I'm concerned and as far as I know it was a mostly Arab society. Some Blacks had high positions true, but that goes for any part of the world really. Let white people have King Tut, it doesnt bother me either way.

 

[waterproof]

King Tut was at least half white.....what's the big deal? Egypt had some Black pharoahs, that's a fact, but it also likely had some white ones.

What's the big fucking deal? As a Black man I never felt much of a connection to Egypt anyway, as far as I'm concerned and as far as I know it was a mostly Arab society. Some Blacks had high positions true, but that goes for any part of the world really. Let white people have King Tut, it doesnt bother me either way.

See that's how powerful the brain washing is, those europeans done told us that Egypt aint africa, but the map told you different. Then they said Egyptians aint a african race then the bible say different then they said that Nubians, Egyptians are from the caucasian race, but the bible say different. after all those lies that proved them wrong you still believe them, I bet they laugh at yall. It's very sad when black and white historians, archaeologist, scientist says differ.

they can tell you a lie to make you believe that a great black race was somehow white or arab. Some of yall are straight FOOLS!!!!

Gerald Massey, English writer and author of the book, Egypt the Light of the World, wrote, "The dignity is so ancient that the insignia of the Pharaoh evidently belonged to the time when Egyptians wore nothing but the girdle of the Negro." (p 251)

Sir Richard Francis Burton, a 19th century English explorer, writer and linguist in 1883 wrote to Gerald Massey, "You are quite right about the "AFRICAN" origin of the Egyptians. I have 100 human skulls to prove it."

Scientist, R. T. Prittchett, states in his book The Natural History of Man, "In their complex and many of the complexions and in physical peculiarities the Egyptians were an "AFRICAN" race (p 124-125).

The Ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who visited Egypt in the 5th century B.C.E., saw the Egyptians face to face and described them as black-skinned with woolly hair.

Anthropologist, Count Constatin de Volney (1727-1820),spoke about the race of the Egyptians that produced the Pharaohs. He later paid tribute to Herodotus' discovery when he said:

The ancient Egyptians were true Negroes of the same type as all native born Africans. That being so, we can see how their blood mixed for several centuries with that of the Romans and Greeks, must have lost the intensity of it's original color, while retaining none the less the imprint of it's original mold. We can even state as a general principle that the face (referring to The Sphinx) is a kind of monument able, in many cases, to attest to or shed light on historical evidence on the origins of the people."

The fact that the ancient Egyptians were black-skin prompted Volney to make the following statement:

"What a subject for meditation, just think that the race of black men today our slaves and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, science and even the use of our speech.

what more yall foolish negore's want, there are true descendants of the original egyptians that still live by the nile that are being silence right now.

 

[bambu]

This thread is still breathing? Most African American males who take this “test” are also surprised to learn that their YDNA is tied to European male heritage, which has been attributed to the slave trade and raping of African American women. Any African American male can possibly have European male heritage WTF does is matter. A persons YDNA has no affect on their physical appearance.

@Jank... I said that, I seriously doubt that people(white) would call a man of Hittite/Turkish/Syrian descent Caucasian...more like sand nigger.

 

[janklow]

@Jank... I said that, I seriously doubt that people(white) would call a man of Hittite/Turkish/Syrian descent Caucasian...more like sand nigger.

yes, i heard you, and i am telling you (again, i guess) that they're considered white people by white people

 

[bambu]

yes, i heard you, and i am telling you (again, i guess) that they're considered white people by white people

Maybe the ones you know

 

[And Step]

Barack Obama = half white
Bob Marley = half white

i am confused as to where you are going with this "no way Tut is part white" argument

As well as you should be, because I never made that claim. What I said was the Ancient Egyptians were not Caucasian. I actually acknowledged the mixing of the many ethnic groups if you read my posts. If you read them..If you read them..

BTW, Bob Marley was not half white. His father was not white he would be classed as an quadroon, because his father's mother was half-black

And a little journalistic integrity lesson for ya..When you lift a quote from someone don't take out parts that dissolve your argument that would be dishonest. The ........ thing kind of shows you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[Valentinez A. Kaiser]

oh no, scientists try to FUND their research somehow

what a scam

lmao

Never said it was a scam just one of many marketing gimmicks used previously by this company and as such should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Yep why hasn't Zawi Hawass publish the results?

I hope he does, my only assumption would be that the racial ancestry doesn't match to present day Egyptians and because of that fact, there could be huge ramifications.

King Tut was at least half white.....what's the big deal? Egypt had some Black pharoahs, that's a fact, but it also likely had some white ones.

What's the big fucking deal? As a Black man I never felt much of a connection to Egypt anyway, as far as I'm concerned and as far as I know it was a mostly Arab society. Some Blacks had high positions true, but that goes for any part of the world really. Let white people have King Tut, it doesnt bother me either way.

C/S bolded.

Also for those interested, I managed to find the original paper written by Hawass et al in JAMA

http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/303/7/638.full.pdf+html