More Likely to Win A Championship first... Tony Romo or Joe Flacco??

[coop9889]

Cuhz...shut thefuck up about Eli...he is a bonehead ,protected by his coach and good ass team....

The Giants D Line was famous that year, they beat the 13-3 cowboys and the undefeated Patriots ,but it was that D-Line not they offense accept it

Cause Terrell Owens was open that whole game but soon as Romo hiked the ball ,Strahan and Tuck was in his fucking face...,that o line is the same one that got that ass wooped by the Vikings in the playoffs too,Romo was Jared Allens bitch...Romo through his 4 years of being a starter as been able to work around that horrible o line but its been so bad he can't avoid it any longer...and it took him being out for a season for Jerry Jones to notice..and here comes Tyron Smith ,and he still got his fucking ribs cracked !! Smh

Man shut that dumb shit all the way the fuck up nigga..Eli played damn near flawless football in both Super Bowl runs...Wtf is our D supposed to do, give Romo time?? Foh nigga wit that shit, you talk shit and sound like you've never watched Eli play football for a single down...So fuckin what we have a good defense...Do you not watch the way Eli conducts the offense?? Obviously not..You talking on some strictly biased shit..It's to the point of hating..At least I admit Romo is a good QB, your posts are agenda driven obviously..

The only reason people keep bringing up the Giants D line is because you niggas keep saying "ELI beat ROMO" which is absurd. In reality it's "Giants beat Cowboys". Individual performance wise, Romo does better than Eli 90% of the time. The Cowboys lose because the Giants have an better overall TEAM, and that's mostly because of their D Line.

Bottom line is, AS A QB, ROMO PERFORMS BETTER, Eli has a better team.

Which is inarguable because Romo has higher completion %, more TDs, less INT's and the second highest career QB rating in NFL history. But Eli has more victories/rings.

Which makes complete sense because statistics measure an INDIVIDUALS PERFORMANCE and WINNING IS A TEAM CONCEPT.

It's not that hard to comprehend.

 

[FlyFreeCt]

He wasnt flawless in the superbowl I keep going over the dumb shit he was doing but the Pats personnel was weak and let passes whiz by them that shouldve been int and your acting like the Giants where scoring a bunch of pts against those weak ass defenses.

So cuz their bum ass secondary was weak it's Eli's fault?? Lmao! You niggas are funny..Them bitch niggas were good enough to make it to the Super Bowl, no excuses..30 for 40 300 yards is a close to flawless bruh...They're weak defenses huh? Maybe so, but they were in the playoffs, and as everybody knows only the teams who played the best all year are in the playoffs...Stop wit the excuses...It's obvious you just don't like him for whatever reason so I don't even know why im going back and forth wit you niggas...Just sit back and watch us keep winning with our "bum ass QB"..haha!

 

[God_Yunn]

He was flawless against the worst passing defense in the league? Ok lol...but he was looking like Shit against the 49ers...just cause Carlos Rogers act like he didn't know how to catch doesn't mean Manning was making good decisions lol

Thank Kyle wiiliams for that second ring

 

[FlyFreeCt]

blah blah blah..So he was supposed to be trash against the worst pass defense in the league?? Would that have made you give him more respect?? Lol, ya'll niggas is ass backwards...He looked like shit against San Fran?? 300+ passing yards 2td and ZERO picks..Fuck whoever dropped a pick or two..did he catch it or not?? If not keep it movin and cut out the shoulda, coulda, woulda bullshit...Like Jordan said after he pushed off Russell "did they call it"..ok then...All ya'll doin is saying "if" this woulda happened "if" that wouldn't have happened...Get over that "if" shit, you look bad...and no im not thinkin Kyle Williams shit, I'm thinkin Devon Thomas for recovering both fumbles and thanking Jacquain Williams for stripping the 2nd one on a good play...in other words im thanking the special teams, fuck Kyle Williams..

 

[major pain]

Anybody that knows football knows that if the QB is not the best player on the team or elite status they will not win in todays NFL.

Not trying to lessen his impact on the game, but you mean to tell me that Eli Manning was more important than say that incredible D-line the Giants have? The same D-Line that basically made Tom Brady in two seperate Super Bowls actually look human(considering both seasons they played the Super Bowl against each other Brady had HISTORIC seasons)?

Watch those games again and tell me who was the most important on those teams bruh? Eli would not have one of his rings without David Tyree making that catch. Big Ben needed Santonio Holmes to make that catch against the Cardinals. Hell Big Ben in his first Super Bowl needed the rest of his team and the damn refs to win that bitch with that poor performance he put up.

So we just gon' avoid the 1st part of the play huh?? Like Eli didn't avoid a sack and stay on his feet to get that pass off, which was a big risk to throw it to the middle of the field....Funny how everybody just nitpicks the things they talk about...and niggas need to stop tryna use the DLine like they're the only reason why we win....I mean damn, Eli can't help he plays wit a beastly DLine, tell Jerry GM Jones to step his talent evaluation up, and we can have this discussion again..But everybody every single year says shit like "Dallas has the most talent in the East"..Last year was the only exception cuz of that Eagles "dream team" bullshit...The previous 4 years was Dallas, Dallas, Dallas....and wasn't Dallas like 13-3 when we beat them in the playoffs in 07?? They had a pretty damn good team that year and Eli went to Dallas and got the job done.

there is no truth in this.. dallas hasnt been hyped since 08

and again... Flacco was '1 catch away' but so was Romo with Crayton's drop, but nvm that.. Eli did it all? lol shits hilarious

Where did I say he did it all?? He didn't do it all, but he damn sure did what he had to do in critical points of the game for his team to come out on top......I guess after we win another Super Bowl this year all these conversations won't be conversations anymore.

Eli went to Dallas and got the job done.

If Crayton catches that pass, did Romo 'get the job done'?

You people seem to forget that the QB has to also rely on the rest of his team to 'get the job done'.

 

[CoolJoe]

Matt Ryan over Romo???

The falcons didn't score not one point against the giants in the playoffs NOT ONE lol

Romo torched the Giants D on the other hand...yall trolling hard in here now

When did this happen?

Their first matchup of the season last year.

Romo went 21/31 for 321 yards, 4 TDs no INTs.

Like I said YOU DONT WATCH THE GAMES.

You don't know shit.

And who won the game? dont mean shit when you lose the game just padding the stats bruh now who dont know shit? lol....oh yeah eli threw for 400 that game so who torched who? lol

Lmao

Anybody that knows football knows that if the QB is not the best player on the team or elite status they will not win in todays NFL.

My 49ers were in the NFC Championship game with Alex Smith.......

and u didn't win....

Obviously, the nigga said you're not winning in today's league without an elite QB, and we were a few bad plays away from being in the Super Bowl. I would call that a pretty successful season.

 

[FlyFreeCt]

Anybody that knows football knows that if the QB is not the best player on the team or elite status they will not win in todays NFL.

Not trying to lessen his impact on the game, but you mean to tell me that Eli Manning was more important than say that incredible D-line the Giants have? The same D-Line that basically made Tom Brady in two seperate Super Bowls actually look human(considering both seasons they played the Super Bowl against each other Brady had HISTORIC seasons)?

Watch those games again and tell me who was the most important on those teams bruh? Eli would not have one of his rings without David Tyree making that catch. Big Ben needed Santonio Holmes to make that catch against the Cardinals. Hell Big Ben in his first Super Bowl needed the rest of his team and the damn refs to win that bitch with that poor performance he put up.

So we just gon' avoid the 1st part of the play huh?? Like Eli didn't avoid a sack and stay on his feet to get that pass off, which was a big risk to throw it to the middle of the field....Funny how everybody just nitpicks the things they talk about...and niggas need to stop tryna use the DLine like they're the only reason why we win....I mean damn, Eli can't help he plays wit a beastly DLine, tell Jerry GM Jones to step his talent evaluation up, and we can have this discussion again..But everybody every single year says shit like "Dallas has the most talent in the East"..Last year was the only exception cuz of that Eagles "dream team" bullshit...The previous 4 years was Dallas, Dallas, Dallas....and wasn't Dallas like 13-3 when we beat them in the playoffs in 07?? They had a pretty damn good team that year and Eli went to Dallas and got the job done.

there is no truth in this.. dallas hasnt been hyped since 08

and again... Flacco was '1 catch away' but so was Romo with Crayton's drop, but nvm that.. Eli did it all? lol shits hilarious

Where did I say he did it all?? He didn't do it all, but he damn sure did what he had to do in critical points of the game for his team to come out on top......I guess after we win another Super Bowl this year all these conversations won't be conversations anymore.

Eli went to Dallas and got the job done.

If Crayton catches that pass, did Romo 'get the job done'?

You people seem to forget that the QB has to also rely on the rest of his team to 'get the job done'.

I meant that as in Eli did what he was supposed to do for his team to win..Not as in he went there and won the game on his own...

 

[major pain]

Anybody that knows football knows that if the QB is not the best player on the team or elite status they will not win in todays NFL.

Not trying to lessen his impact on the game, but you mean to tell me that Eli Manning was more important than say that incredible D-line the Giants have? The same D-Line that basically made Tom Brady in two seperate Super Bowls actually look human(considering both seasons they played the Super Bowl against each other Brady had HISTORIC seasons)?

Watch those games again and tell me who was the most important on those teams bruh? Eli would not have one of his rings without David Tyree making that catch. Big Ben needed Santonio Holmes to make that catch against the Cardinals. Hell Big Ben in his first Super Bowl needed the rest of his team and the damn refs to win that bitch with that poor performance he put up.

So we just gon' avoid the 1st part of the play huh?? Like Eli didn't avoid a sack and stay on his feet to get that pass off, which was a big risk to throw it to the middle of the field....Funny how everybody just nitpicks the things they talk about...and niggas need to stop tryna use the DLine like they're the only reason why we win....I mean damn, Eli can't help he plays wit a beastly DLine, tell Jerry GM Jones to step his talent evaluation up, and we can have this discussion again..But everybody every single year says shit like "Dallas has the most talent in the East"..Last year was the only exception cuz of that Eagles "dream team" bullshit...The previous 4 years was Dallas, Dallas, Dallas....and wasn't Dallas like 13-3 when we beat them in the playoffs in 07?? They had a pretty damn good team that year and Eli went to Dallas and got the job done.

there is no truth in this.. dallas hasnt been hyped since 08

and again... Flacco was '1 catch away' but so was Romo with Crayton's drop, but nvm that.. Eli did it all? lol shits hilarious

Where did I say he did it all?? He didn't do it all, but he damn sure did what he had to do in critical points of the game for his team to come out on top......I guess after we win another Super Bowl this year all these conversations won't be conversations anymore.

Eli went to Dallas and got the job done.

If Crayton catches that pass, did Romo 'get the job done'?

You people seem to forget that the QB has to also rely on the rest of his team to 'get the job done'.

I meant that as in Eli did what he was supposed to do for his team to win..Not as in he went there and won the game on his own...

ok, so address the crayton drop then. did romo do what he needed to do? the team still lost so... yea.. it all boils down to a complete team effort.

lets not act like QBs cant have an entire game of shitty performance and STILL have a chance to win or lose the game for the team.

 

[FlyFreeCt]

You clearly couldn't have possibly read all of my posts..

 

[major pain]

You clearly couldn't have possibly read all of my posts..

sure didnt.

my point is you're acting like eli is somehow a god-send of a QB, when in reality he is just good, but 'very' good in the end of a game. he's not an elite QB that gives a consistent performance from game to game. dont worry i still give him credit for beating some good teams, but i give the most credit to the entire TEAM.

if we're being honest, eli gets bailed out a lot by his receivers and it really covers up his own mistakes. last year there were games where he played 3.5 quarters of shit football and the defense kept it close enough for a good strike at the end of the game. i.e. reg season new england game

 

[FlyFreeCt]

You clearly couldn't have possibly read all of my posts..

sure didnt.

my point is you're acting like eli is somehow a god-send of a QB, when in reality he is just good, but 'very' good in the end of a game. he's not an elite QB that gives a consistent performance from game to game. dont worry i still give him credit for beating some good teams, but i give the most credit to the entire TEAM.

if we're being honest, eli gets bailed out a lot by his receivers and it really covers up his own mistakes. last year there were games where he played 3.5 quarters of shit football and the defense kept it close enough for a good strike at the end of the game. i.e. reg season new england game

Lol im done...I could go back & forth all day, but fuck it..

 

[major pain]

sounds about right

 

[FlyFreeCt]

Nigga you made no point what so ever, i just don't feel like typing paragraph after paragraph to niggas who don't understand shit...Funny how your own wack ass owner realizes that Eli is better than Romo but ya'll fans are grasping for straws lmao FOH..

 

[God_Yunn]

Eli is not a better quarterback than Romo man just accept it...he is good but no elite

And should woulda coulda wasn't my premise,I was simply stating that he makes a lot of errant throws,that doesn't compare to the Jordan push off cause it wasn't a mistake ,he just wanted Russell to get the fuck out the way

Eli is good but honestly he overrated he makes a lot of dumb ass mistakes...that Elite Qbs don't do but he does on a constant bases season in season out...but sometimes he shows promise but Thats short lived....

This the best season he has had in his what ten years of being a starter?...his own teammates was shitting on him and his habit to make constant fuck ups

 

[FlyFreeCt]

Eli is not a better quarterback than Romo man just accept it...he is good but no elite

And should woulda coulda wasn't my premise,I was simply stating that he makes a lot of errant throws,that doesn't compare to the Jordan push off cause it wasn't a mistake ,he just wanted Russell to get the fuck out the way

Eli is good but honestly he overrated he makes a lot of dumb ass mistakes...that Elite Qbs don't do but he does on a constant bases season in season out...but sometimes he shows promise but Thats short lived....

This the best season he has had in his what ten years of being a starter?...his own teammates was shitting on him and his habit to make constant fuck ups

Its exactly the other way around...and no Eli's best "individual" season was not this year, it was actually the 2009-2010 season where we finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs, that shows how much niggas really know about Eli...Ya'll talkin out ya'll neck..Ya'll don't really believe Romo is better, it just makes ya'll feel better about the direction of your franchise lol..Truth be told, he might not even be the QB in Dallas next year if he doesn't do something...Ya'll keep believing he's better and maybe, just maybe it'll come true lol..Until then, get ready for week one and this ass whoopin you're gonna receive..

 

[Olorun22]

Niggas are going HAM!

 

[major pain]

Nigga you made no point what so ever, i just don't feel like typing paragraph after paragraph to niggas who don't understand shit...Funny how your own wack ass owner realizes that Eli is better than Romo but ya'll fans are grasping for straws lmao FOH..

Points

1. Eli isnt as good as you make it seem.

2. He gets bailed out by his receivers.

Now the fact you cant respond to it..

Also, Jerry jones has never said Eli is better. He did, however, say that the rest of the team needs to step their shit up... and its true. All of Romo's stats/performance wont mean shit if the rest of the team falls apart like it has been the last few years.

I don’t want to take anything away [from the Giants] but the big difference was Eli came up here and started what seemed like a pretty significant [stretch],” Jones said. “But the quarterback play with Eli was the huge difference. But I was pretty impressed with how they’ve defense played the last three or four ball games.

I thought (Tony) Romo was competing at a level that would’ve given us that opportunity but the rest of us need to play better and get better before we can really gel the way the Giants are, Jones said via CBSSports.com Rapid Reporter Nick Eatman.

 

[FlyFreeCt]

1. Romo isn't nearly as good as you make him out to be

2. How in the hell does Eli get bailed out by receivers? That let's me know you don't watch the games and you just talk shit..There's nothing about that to refute, because it isn't true..That's why I didn't respond..It's fuckin asinine..

3. All ya'll niggas in here seem to care about are some shitty meaningless bullshit stats that can be taken out of context due to when things occur in a game..instead of forming a solid opinion by watching..

4. Jerry Jones said "The biggest difference between the Giants and the Cowboys was Eli Manning"..All the extra shit was just to smooth it over cuz Romo is still his QB and that's what he has to do...Cut it out..

 

[God_Yunn]

You mean because he threw for 4,000 yards 27tds and 14int in 09

Versus him throwing for 4900 yard 29tds-16ints this past season?

09 QB rating 93.1 this past season 92.9

Foh lol

 

[coop9889]

Eli is not a better quarterback than Romo man just accept it...he is good but no elite

And should woulda coulda wasn't my premise,I was simply stating that he makes a lot of errant throws,that doesn't compare to the Jordan push off cause it wasn't a mistake ,he just wanted Russell to get the fuck out the way

Eli is good but honestly he overrated he makes a lot of dumb ass mistakes...that Elite Qbs don't do but he does on a constant bases season in season out...but sometimes he shows promise but Thats short lived....

This the best season he has had in his what ten years of being a starter?...his own teammates was shitting on him and his habit to make constant fuck ups

Its exactly the other way around...and no Eli's best "individual" season was not this year, it was actually the 2009-2010 season where we finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs, that shows how much niggas really know about Eli...Ya'll talkin out ya'll neck..Ya'll don't really believe Romo is better, it just makes ya'll feel better about the direction of your franchise lol..Truth be told, he might not even be the QB in Dallas next year if he doesn't do something...Ya'll keep believing he's better and maybe, just maybe it'll come true lol..Until then, get ready for week one and this ass whoopin you're gonna receive..

Hmmmmm....

Eli almost broke 500 yards this year. 4993. 2009 he barely broke 4000. 4021. More yards per attempt and yards per game this year.

In 2009 his completion percentage was 1.3 percent higher this year, (61 to 62.3) but 62.3 wasnt even his best completion percentage for a season. That was 2010.

Eli had 2 more TDs this season than he did in 2009. He had 2 more INTs this year than that 2009 year but in 2009 he had 13 fumbles compared to 9 this year. So overall more turnovers in 2009 than this year.

So to sum it up, the only thing eli did better in 2009 was complete 1.3% more passes. Everything else he did better this past year.

Sounds like you don't know shit about your own QB.