More Likely to Win A Championship first... Tony Romo or Joe Flacco??

[coop9889]

Nigga I can't think of anyone in particular...All i know is that in the last 2 or 3 years he's been included in that group..The only thing that has changed now is that Rodgers, Brees and Brady put up god like numbers this past season, that's it, period(hence Jaws switching up all the sudden)..Prior to that Ben used to get topped in the media for no apparent reason, I know niggas remember that...So you stfu nigga.

Nigga.... In the last 2 or 3 years?? We are talking about right now. Right now the consensus is no one puts ben with them niggas.

The tiers are

1)Brady/Brees/Rodgers/Peyton

2) Other tiers start

You talking bout years ago n shit. The fuck?

How you gonna say literally "the media thinks Ben is amongst the elite and better than Eli" then turn around like "ohhh im talking bout THREE YEARS AGO"

No shit sherlock a lot of things have happened in 3 years.

 

[bankrupt baller]

Shizlansky is dumb as hell lol

 

[major pain]

1. Romo isn't nearly as good as you make him out to be

2. How in the hell does Eli get bailed out by receivers? That let's me know you don't watch the games and you just talk shit..There's nothing about that to refute, because it isn't true..That's why I didn't respond..It's fuckin asinine..

3. All ya'll niggas in here seem to care about are some shitty meaningless bullshit stats that can be taken out of context due to when things occur in a game..instead of forming a solid opinion by watching..

4. Jerry Jones said "The biggest difference between the Giants and the Cowboys was Eli Manning"..All the extra shit was just to smooth it over cuz Romo is still his QB and that's what he has to do...Cut it out..

1. Romo is a 2nd tier QB like Eli. You are pretending Eli belongs in the same conversation as Rodgers, Brady and Brees.

2. Um.. Tyree 'the catch'? How about some of Victor Cruz's ridiculous catches? Seahawks game? Eli throws a lot of under throwing balls.

3.

Also, Jerry jones has never said Eli is better. He did, however, say that the rest of the team needs to step their shit up... and its true. All of Romo's stats/performance wont mean shit if the rest of the team falls apart like it has been the last few years.

4. Talk about taking something out of context. I just quoted the exact words and you added something in about the Cowboys. You're taking a tweet from some analyst and trying to say JJ said it. He said exactly what I quoted so take your own advice 'cut it out'. Heres the entire thing.

“I don’t want to take anything away [from the Giants] but the big difference was Eli came up here and started what seemed like a pretty significant [stretch]," Jones said. "But the quarterback play with Eli was the huge difference. But I was pretty impressed with how they’ve defense played the last three or four ball games. …

"We had good quarterback play, but I'd say as a team, they just got better and better near the end," he added. "Their depth, that's how I view us. I had counted -- we had counted -- on getting better, and we didn't. We went the other way."

1. False...So Eli is the only Super Bowl winning QB in the 2nd tier?? Shit don't even make sense

2. You just named 2 plays, and on 1 of'em Eli still made a hell of a play to avoid the rush to even get the ball to a receiver in a one on one situation..That's what you do, give your teammate a chance to make a play..

3. He still said the biggest difference is Eli stepping up..What is there not to understand?? He wouldn't even have mentioned Eli if he didn't feel a certain type of way..Then he threw the "team" in to smooth it over..

1. Fuck you talkin about? Rapelisberger isnt in the same category as those 3-4 with Peyton Manning. I only named those 3 because they tore it up this year.

2. Theres more... Cruz in the Dallas game at Meadowlands had some prayers thrown to him and Cruz came down with it. I can think of one in particular that was WELL underthrown and Cruz saved it.

3. Take the entire quote there guy.. and not just what sounds best to you or infer what someone meant when its in plain english.

1. Fuck what you think...the media thinks Roethlisberger is amongst the Elite qbs (which is not true) and he gets waaaay more respect than Eli has ever gotten...So generally the consensus is Ben is better and will always be better than Eli and is in the same company as those others..Only one ive seen that thinks differently is Jaws, but fuck him to..

2. Cruz ain't have no god damn prayers thrown to him in that game...and the one you're most likely talking about was when Eli spun out of a sack attempt and immediately went to his second read, and threw the ball into one on on coverage, with a safety coming over late...still a pretty accurate ball in a one on one situation, especially after spinning around...Was his receiver not supposed to make a play on the ball?? Wtf are you saying??

3. I took the whole quote and the jist of what he was saying is that Eli hit a rhythm and is the difference between the two teams...Like I said, that team shit was to smooth it over wit the QB that he employs..

1. What media? You just coming up with conjecture. 4 QBs are at the top of the pecking order and they cannot be argued whether they should be there or not. Anyone else you want to name, can be dissected and put under a scope to show why they are not as good as the other 4.

2. Do I need to post videos? I mean seriously, just because Eli throws it up hoping his receiver comes down with it, doesnt mean it was a good play or a well thrown ball. He got bailed out.... a lot last year by Cruz.

3. Right, so lets ignore the 'they got better as a team and we didnt'. Gotcha.

 

[FlyFreeCt]

I said 2 or 3 years...and explained...The only shit that changed everything was this past season when the other three put up crazy numbers...its fuckin true...its a week to week, year to year mindframe when niggas speak on the NFL...Analysts jump on and off teams every single game...So what makes you think they wouldn't do the same with Ben? Fact of the matter...going into this past season they were still on his nuts and talking him up every chance they got...If he comes out in 2012 and plays at a high level he'll be considered right back in that class...Fact..

 

[coop9889]

I said 2 or 3 years...and explained...The only shit that changed everything was this past season when the other three put up crazy numbers...its fuckin true...its a week to week, year to year mindframe when niggas speak on the NFL...Analysts jump on and off teams every single game...So what makes you think they wouldn't do the same with Ben? Fact of the matter...going into this past season they were still on his nuts and talking him up every chance they got...If he comes out in 2012 and plays at a high level he'll be considered right back in that class...Fact..

For one, no one has EVER SAID Ben is just as good as the other four.

And two, you just admitted he is NOT considered in their class right now (bolded) yet you were so adamant that the media consensus right now was that he was in the elite class.

1. Fuck what you think...the media thinks Roethlisberger is amongst the Elite qbs (which is not true) and he gets waaaay more respect than Eli has ever gotten...So generally the consensus is Ben is better and will always be better than Eli and is in the same company as those others..Only one ive seen that thinks differently is Jaws, but fuck him to..

Contradicting yourself as usual.

 

[FlyFreeCt]

I said 2 or 3 years...and explained...The only shit that changed everything was this past season when the other three put up crazy numbers...its fuckin true...its a week to week, year to year mindframe when niggas speak on the NFL...Analysts jump on and off teams every single game...So what makes you think they wouldn't do the same with Ben? Fact of the matter...going into this past season they were still on his nuts and talking him up every chance they got...If he comes out in 2012 and plays at a high level he'll be considered right back in that class...Fact..

For one, no one has EVER SAID Ben is just as good as the other four.

And two, you just admitted he is NOT considered in their class right now (bolded) yet you were so adamant that the media consensus right now was that he was in the elite class.

1. Fuck what you think...the media thinks Roethlisberger is amongst the Elite qbs (which is not true) and he gets waaaay more respect than Eli has ever gotten...So generally the consensus is Ben is better and will always be better than Eli and is in the same company as those others..Only one ive seen that thinks differently is Jaws, but fuck him to..

Contradicting yourself as usual.

Not as a whole at this particular moment he isn't...but my premise is that he was just a calender year ago....You sittin here makin it seem like he wasn't mentioned in that class when he was, which is false....and like i said, week fuckin 2 he could be off to the best start of his career and be placed right back where he was which wasn't that damn long ago to begin with...Bottom line, he still gets more respect than Eli..Period

 

[coop9889]

Not as a whole at this particular moment he isn't...but my premise is that he was just a calender year ago....You sittin here makin it seem like he wasn't mentioned in that class when he was, which is false....and like i said, week fuckin 2 he could be off to the best start of his career and be placed right back where he was which wasn't that damn long ago to begin with...Bottom line, he still gets more respect than Eli..Period

I don't think you are understanding.

People can be on Ben's dick (nh) all they want, but im am saying he has NEVER BEEN ON THE LEVEL of Brady/Brees/Peyton/Rodgers when he developed... And no one has ever said that.

No one has ever put him in top 3 when it was Brady/Peyton/Brees.

And no one has ever put him in top 4 when Rodgers came on the scene.

So how can you possibly say they have him in the same class?

And him getting more respect than Eli is irrelevant but debatable. And until last year he had more rings so thats a reason.

 

[Olorun22]

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^^^^ME

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^^^FlyfreeCt

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^^^^me after watching

 

[vageneral08]

Not as a whole at this particular moment he isn't...but my premise is that he was just a calender year ago....You sittin here makin it seem like he wasn't mentioned in that class when he was, which is false....and like i said, week fuckin 2 he could be off to the best start of his career and be placed right back where he was which wasn't that damn long ago to begin with...Bottom line, he still gets more respect than Eli..Period

I don't think you are understanding.

People can be on Ben's dick (nh) all they want, but im am saying he has NEVER BEEN ON THE LEVEL of Brady/Brees/Peyton/Rodgers when he developed... And no one has ever said that.

No one has ever put him in top 3 when it was Brady/Peyton/Brees.

And no one has ever put him in top 4 when Rodgers came on the scene.

So how can you possibly say they have him in the same class?

And him getting more respect than Eli is irrelevant but debatable. And until last year he had more rings so thats a reason.

Shit when he won his second ring that's when they started throwing his name with those three.....here's an example of it on this linkhttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/...t-quarterback-the-comparison-you-cannot-argue

 

[dbrazil412]

big ben is that dude forreal.. top 5 qb imo only behind brees/brady/peyton/rodgers. another guy who shouldnt be brought up in this thread

 

[major pain]

Ben is very efficient and a smart QB. But, talent wise, he is not seeing the top 4. He also has had the luxury of a pretty consistent defense over his career, much more so than those other 4.

 

[jay83]

Guess flacco is closer now. Lol