More Likely to Win A Championship first... Tony Romo or Joe Flacco??

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FlyFreeCt;4611327 said:
1. Romo isn't nearly as good as you make him out to be

2. How in the hell does Eli get bailed out by receivers? That let's me know you don't watch the games and you just talk shit..There's nothing about that to refute, because it isn't true..That's why I didn't respond..It's fuckin asinine..

3. All ya'll niggas in here seem to care about are some shitty meaningless bullshit stats that can be taken out of context due to when things occur in a game..instead of forming a solid opinion by watching..

4. Jerry Jones said "The biggest difference between the Giants and the Cowboys was Eli Manning"..All the extra shit was just to smooth it over cuz Romo is still his QB and that's what he has to do...Cut it out..

1. Romo is a 2nd tier QB like Eli. You are pretending Eli belongs in the same conversation as Rodgers, Brady and Brees.

2. Um.. Tyree 'the catch'? How about some of Victor Cruz's ridiculous catches? Seahawks game? Eli throws a lot of under throwing balls.

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major pain said:
Also, Jerry jones has never said Eli is better. He did, however, say that the rest of the team needs to step their shit up... and its true. All of Romo's stats/performance wont mean shit if the rest of the team falls apart like it has been the last few years.

4. Talk about taking something out of context. I just quoted the exact words and you added something in about the Cowboys. You're taking a tweet from some analyst and trying to say JJ said it. He said exactly what I quoted so take your own advice 'cut it out'. Heres the entire thing.

Jerry Jones said:
“I don’t want to take anything away [from the Giants] but the big difference was Eli came up here and started what seemed like a pretty significant [stretch]," Jones said. "But the quarterback play with Eli was the huge difference. But I was pretty impressed with how they’ve defense played the last three or four ball games. …

"We had good quarterback play, but I'd say as a team, they just got better and better near the end," he added. "Their depth, that's how I view us. I had counted -- we had counted -- on getting better, and we didn't. We went the other way."

 
coop9889;4611387 said:
FlyFreeCt;4611252 said:
yunn~sancob!m!t;4611112 said:
Eli is not a better quarterback than Romo man just accept it...he is good but no elite

And should woulda coulda wasn't my premise,I was simply stating that he makes a lot of errant throws,that doesn't compare to the Jordan push off cause it wasn't a mistake ,he just wanted Russell to get the fuck out the way

Eli is good but honestly he overrated he makes a lot of dumb ass mistakes...that Elite Qbs don't do but he does on a constant bases season in season out...but sometimes he shows promise but Thats short lived....

This the best season he has had in his what ten years of being a starter?...his own teammates was shitting on him and his habit to make constant fuck ups

Its exactly the other way around...and no Eli's best "individual" season was not this year, it was actually the 2009-2010 season where we finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs, that shows how much niggas really know about Eli...Ya'll talkin out ya'll neck..Ya'll don't really believe Romo is better, it just makes ya'll feel better about the direction of your franchise lol..Truth be told, he might not even be the QB in Dallas next year if he doesn't do something...Ya'll keep believing he's better and maybe, just maybe it'll come true lol..Until then, get ready for week one and this ass whoopin you're gonna receive..

Hmmmmm....

Eli almost broke 500 yards this year. 4993. 2009 he barely broke 4000. 4021. More yards per attempt and yards per game this year.

In 2009 his completion percentage was 1.3 percent higher this year, (61 to 62.3) but 62.3 wasnt even his best completion percentage for a season. That was 2010.

Eli had 2 more TDs this season than he did in 2009. He had 2 more INTs this year than that 2009 year but in 2009 he had 13 fumbles compared to 9 this year. So overall more turnovers in 2009 than this year.

So to sum it up, the only thing eli did better in 2009 was complete 1.3% more passes. Everything else he did better this past year.

Sounds like you don't know shit about your own QB.

He was more efficient in 2009 and made fewer mistakes throwing the ball...fuck the fumbles it doesn't have anything to do with throwing the ball...my point is if we didn't have the shitiest defense in the league we woulda did alot more damage cuz he had a good season...
 
It seems eli can screw up the whole game but make the best play in the crucial moments. And romo plays welll except when in that crucial moment. i gotta go with eli.
 
major pain;4611404 said:
FlyFreeCt;4611327 said:
1. Romo isn't nearly as good as you make him out to be

2. How in the hell does Eli get bailed out by receivers? That let's me know you don't watch the games and you just talk shit..There's nothing about that to refute, because it isn't true..That's why I didn't respond..It's fuckin asinine..

3. All ya'll niggas in here seem to care about are some shitty meaningless bullshit stats that can be taken out of context due to when things occur in a game..instead of forming a solid opinion by watching..

4. Jerry Jones said "The biggest difference between the Giants and the Cowboys was Eli Manning"..All the extra shit was just to smooth it over cuz Romo is still his QB and that's what he has to do...Cut it out..

1. Romo is a 2nd tier QB like Eli. You are pretending Eli belongs in the same conversation as Rodgers, Brady and Brees.

2. Um.. Tyree 'the catch'? How about some of Victor Cruz's ridiculous catches? Seahawks game? Eli throws a lot of under throwing balls.

3.
major pain said:
Also, Jerry jones has never said Eli is better. He did, however, say that the rest of the team needs to step their shit up... and its true. All of Romo's stats/performance wont mean shit if the rest of the team falls apart like it has been the last few years.

4. Talk about taking something out of context. I just quoted the exact words and you added something in about the Cowboys. You're taking a tweet from some analyst and trying to say JJ said it. He said exactly what I quoted so take your own advice 'cut it out'. Heres the entire thing.

Jerry Jones said:
“I don’t want to take anything away [from the Giants] but the big difference was Eli came up here and started what seemed like a pretty significant [stretch]," Jones said. "But the quarterback play with Eli was the huge difference. But I was pretty impressed with how they’ve defense played the last three or four ball games. …

"We had good quarterback play, but I'd say as a team, they just got better and better near the end," he added. "Their depth, that's how I view us. I had counted -- we had counted -- on getting better, and we didn't. We went the other way."

1. False...So Eli is the only Super Bowl winning QB in the 2nd tier?? Shit don't even make sense

2. You just named 2 plays, and on 1 of'em Eli still made a hell of a play to avoid the rush to even get the ball to a receiver in a one on one situation..That's what you do, give your teammate a chance to make a play..

3. He still said the biggest difference is Eli stepping up..What is there not to understand?? He wouldn't even have mentioned Eli if he didn't feel a certain type of way..Then he threw the "team" in to smooth it over..
 
jay83;4611417 said:
It seems eli can screw up the whole game but make the best play in the crucial moments. And romo plays welll except when in that crucial moment. i gotta go with eli.

Prove it. Thats false. A myth conjured up by the media.

*Waits for "He fumbled that placeholding against the seahawks in 07! He threw a pick against jets!!!"*

As if 2-3 times define a career.
 
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FlyFreeCt;4611436 said:
1. False...So Eli is the only Super Bowl winning QB in the 2nd tier?? Shit don't even make sense

2. You just named 2 plays, and on 1 of'em Eli still made a hell of a play to avoid the rush to even get the ball to a receiver in a one on one situation..That's what you do, give your teammate a chance to make a play..

3. He still said the biggest difference is Eli stepping up..What is there not to understand?? He wouldn't even have mentioned Eli if he didn't feel a certain type of way..Then he threw the "team" in to smooth it over..

1) No, it's him and Big Ben.

2) Victor cruz had more YAC yards than any other receiver in the league except Wes Welker. And Welker had 40 more catches than him. Just throwing that out there.

3) He mentioned Eli because Eli played well. No one is saying Eli isn't good. But you're trying to misconstrue the quote and make it seem like Jones is saying Eli>Romo, which is just stupid on your part.
 
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@jay83 aye man we off that Romo ain't clutch in crucial moments Shit ...watch some film mane

Ok Eli is pretty good I kinda flew off the handle I hate to sound bias..but fuck him...end of the day he doesn't carry his team..when he fucks up his team bails him out can't say the same for Romo

Romo had four comeback games last year would of been six if not for they special teams..I'm just saying cause giants got in the playoffs thanks to being a game ahead
 
FlyFreeCt;4611436 said:
major pain;4611404 said:
FlyFreeCt;4611327 said:
1. Romo isn't nearly as good as you make him out to be

2. How in the hell does Eli get bailed out by receivers? That let's me know you don't watch the games and you just talk shit..There's nothing about that to refute, because it isn't true..That's why I didn't respond..It's fuckin asinine..

3. All ya'll niggas in here seem to care about are some shitty meaningless bullshit stats that can be taken out of context due to when things occur in a game..instead of forming a solid opinion by watching..

4. Jerry Jones said "The biggest difference between the Giants and the Cowboys was Eli Manning"..All the extra shit was just to smooth it over cuz Romo is still his QB and that's what he has to do...Cut it out..

1. Romo is a 2nd tier QB like Eli. You are pretending Eli belongs in the same conversation as Rodgers, Brady and Brees.

2. Um.. Tyree 'the catch'? How about some of Victor Cruz's ridiculous catches? Seahawks game? Eli throws a lot of under throwing balls.

3.
major pain said:
Also, Jerry jones has never said Eli is better. He did, however, say that the rest of the team needs to step their shit up... and its true. All of Romo's stats/performance wont mean shit if the rest of the team falls apart like it has been the last few years.

4. Talk about taking something out of context. I just quoted the exact words and you added something in about the Cowboys. You're taking a tweet from some analyst and trying to say JJ said it. He said exactly what I quoted so take your own advice 'cut it out'. Heres the entire thing.

Jerry Jones said:
“I don’t want to take anything away [from the Giants] but the big difference was Eli came up here and started what seemed like a pretty significant [stretch]," Jones said. "But the quarterback play with Eli was the huge difference. But I was pretty impressed with how they’ve defense played the last three or four ball games. …

"We had good quarterback play, but I'd say as a team, they just got better and better near the end," he added. "Their depth, that's how I view us. I had counted -- we had counted -- on getting better, and we didn't. We went the other way."

1. False...So Eli is the only Super Bowl winning QB in the 2nd tier?? Shit don't even make sense

2. You just named 2 plays, and on 1 of'em Eli still made a hell of a play to avoid the rush to even get the ball to a receiver in a one on one situation..That's what you do, give your teammate a chance to make a play..

3. He still said the biggest difference is Eli stepping up..What is there not to understand?? He wouldn't even have mentioned Eli if he didn't feel a certain type of way..Then he threw the "team" in to smooth it over..

1. Fuck you talkin about? Rapelisberger isnt in the same category as those 3-4 with Peyton Manning. I only named those 3 because they tore it up this year.

2. Theres more... Cruz in the Dallas game at Meadowlands had some prayers thrown to him and Cruz came down with it. I can think of one in particular that was WELL underthrown and Cruz saved it.

3. Take the entire quote there guy.. and not just what sounds best to you or infer what someone meant when its in plain english.
 
Ayo fuck this Shit...first game of the season Giants and Cowboys..as of right now I got cowboys ...cause the reason they lost to the Giants is no longer a problem...except the O line Smh if Phil Costa is the starting center in week 1 I refuse to watch the game knowing Tuck gonna be tossing his bitch ass to the ground
 
major pain;4611473 said:
FlyFreeCt;4611436 said:
major pain;4611404 said:
FlyFreeCt;4611327 said:
1. Romo isn't nearly as good as you make him out to be

2. How in the hell does Eli get bailed out by receivers? That let's me know you don't watch the games and you just talk shit..There's nothing about that to refute, because it isn't true..That's why I didn't respond..It's fuckin asinine..

3. All ya'll niggas in here seem to care about are some shitty meaningless bullshit stats that can be taken out of context due to when things occur in a game..instead of forming a solid opinion by watching..

4. Jerry Jones said "The biggest difference between the Giants and the Cowboys was Eli Manning"..All the extra shit was just to smooth it over cuz Romo is still his QB and that's what he has to do...Cut it out..

1. Romo is a 2nd tier QB like Eli. You are pretending Eli belongs in the same conversation as Rodgers, Brady and Brees.

2. Um.. Tyree 'the catch'? How about some of Victor Cruz's ridiculous catches? Seahawks game? Eli throws a lot of under throwing balls.

3.
major pain said:
Also, Jerry jones has never said Eli is better. He did, however, say that the rest of the team needs to step their shit up... and its true. All of Romo's stats/performance wont mean shit if the rest of the team falls apart like it has been the last few years.

4. Talk about taking something out of context. I just quoted the exact words and you added something in about the Cowboys. You're taking a tweet from some analyst and trying to say JJ said it. He said exactly what I quoted so take your own advice 'cut it out'. Heres the entire thing.

Jerry Jones said:
“I don’t want to take anything away [from the Giants] but the big difference was Eli came up here and started what seemed like a pretty significant [stretch]," Jones said. "But the quarterback play with Eli was the huge difference. But I was pretty impressed with how they’ve defense played the last three or four ball games. …

"We had good quarterback play, but I'd say as a team, they just got better and better near the end," he added. "Their depth, that's how I view us. I had counted -- we had counted -- on getting better, and we didn't. We went the other way."

1. False...So Eli is the only Super Bowl winning QB in the 2nd tier?? Shit don't even make sense

2. You just named 2 plays, and on 1 of'em Eli still made a hell of a play to avoid the rush to even get the ball to a receiver in a one on one situation..That's what you do, give your teammate a chance to make a play..

3. He still said the biggest difference is Eli stepping up..What is there not to understand?? He wouldn't even have mentioned Eli if he didn't feel a certain type of way..Then he threw the "team" in to smooth it over..

1. Fuck you talkin about? Rapelisberger isnt in the same category as those 3-4 with Peyton Manning. I only named those 3 because they tore it up this year.

2. Theres more... Cruz in the Dallas game at Meadowlands had some prayers thrown to him and Cruz came down with it. I can think of one in particular that was WELL underthrown and Cruz saved it.

3. Take the entire quote there guy.. and not just what sounds best to you or infer what someone meant when its in plain english.

1. Fuck what you think...the media thinks Roethlisberger is amongst the Elite qbs (which is not true) and he gets waaaay more respect than Eli has ever gotten...So generally the consensus is Ben is better and will always be better than Eli and is in the same company as those others..Only one ive seen that thinks differently is Jaws, but fuck him to..

2. Cruz ain't have no god damn prayers thrown to him in that game...and the one you're most likely talking about was when Eli spun out of a sack attempt and immediately went to his second read, and threw the ball into one on on coverage, with a safety coming over late...still a pretty accurate ball in a one on one situation, especially after spinning around...Was his receiver not supposed to make a play on the ball?? Wtf are you saying??

3. I took the whole quote and the jist of what he was saying is that Eli hit a rhythm and is the difference between the two teams...Like I said, that team shit was to smooth it over wit the QB that he employs..
 
Romo finished the 2011 season with 10 touchdowns and two picks in the final 15 minutes of games. What a choke artist.
 
FlyFreeCt;4611508 said:
1. Fuck what you think...the media thinks Roethlisberger is amongst the Elite qbs (which is not true) and he gets waaaay more respect than Eli has ever gotten...So generally the consensus is Ben is better and will always be better than Eli and is in the same company as those others..Only one ive seen that thinks differently is Jaws, but fuck him to...

LMAO and what evidence do you have to back that up? Where does anyone say Big Ben is in the company of Peyton/Brees/Brady/Rodgers???? I've never heard that. And like you said, Jaws ranks Ben below Eli. It's not a general consensus fool. You just making shit up.
 
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coop9889;4611536 said:
FlyFreeCt;4611508 said:
1. Fuck what you think...the media thinks Roethlisberger is amongst the Elite qbs (which is not true) and he gets waaaay more respect than Eli has ever gotten...So generally the consensus is Ben is better and will always be better than Eli and is in the same company as those others..Only one ive seen that thinks differently is Jaws, but fuck him to...

LMAO and what evidence do you have to back that up? Where does anyone say Big Ben is in the company of Peyton/Brees/Brady/Rodgers???? I've never heard that. And like you said, Jaws ranks Ben below Eli. It's not a general consensus fool. You just making shit up.

Nigga consensus mean the majority of the niggas in the media....and if it didn't mean the majority, Jaws wasn't even an exception until a day or 2 ago...Making up what...I've heard plenty of them mention Ben in the same breath as Brees before...
 
FlyFreeCt;4611569 said:
coop9889;4611536 said:
FlyFreeCt;4611508 said:
1. Fuck what you think...the media thinks Roethlisberger is amongst the Elite qbs (which is not true) and he gets waaaay more respect than Eli has ever gotten...So generally the consensus is Ben is better and will always be better than Eli and is in the same company as those others..Only one ive seen that thinks differently is Jaws, but fuck him to...

LMAO and what evidence do you have to back that up? Where does anyone say Big Ben is in the company of Peyton/Brees/Brady/Rodgers???? I've never heard that. And like you said, Jaws ranks Ben below Eli. It's not a general consensus fool. You just making shit up.

Nigga consensus mean the majority of the niggas in the media....and if it didn't mean the majority, Jaws wasn't even an exception until a day or 2 ago...Making up what...I've heard plenty of them mention Ben in the same breath as Brees before...

Nigga I know what a consensus is. And no one thinks Ben is as good as Peyton, OR Brady, OR Brees OR Rodgers. I've never heard anyone in the media say it, and never heard anyone in real life say it.

So who the fuck have YOU heard say it. You keep saying "oh yeah, i heard them say big ben is as good/on the same level as brady" do you realize how dumb you sound and how dumb that sounds?

Stfu and stop making shit up.
 
Nigga I can't think of anyone in particular...All i know is that in the last 2 or 3 years he's been included in that group..The only thing that has changed now is that Rodgers, Brees and Brady put up god like numbers this past season, that's it, period(hence Jaws switching up all the sudden)..Prior to that Ben used to get topped in the media for no apparent reason, I know niggas remember that...So you stfu nigga.
 
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