Jay-Z - 'Magna Carta Holy Grail'

[buttuh_b]

drop that album review buttuh and maybe the thread will get back to discussing the music instead of the sales

Word, I'm done. My fault. I love debating so I can't stop responding.

I'll drop it when I get off work.

 

[Kellmill]

You still haven't discussed why you hate Jay so much? Why review (or even listen to) an album if you despise the artist?

 

[Maximilyan]

Hova still doing it big with the album sales. Over half a milly sold despite 1 million give aways.

The Half Man Hald Camel stay at the top. Hova the god

 

[dontdiedontkillanyon]

BBC Radio 1 - Jay-Z. Zane Lowe. Part 3: Business & Politics


Jay-Z chats to Zane about Business & Politics

Later today - Part 4: Family

 

[buttuh_b]

You still haven't discussed why you hate Jay so much? Why review (or even listen to) an album if you despise the artist?

Jay is in my top 10. First album I ever bought with my own money was Hard Knock Life and I purchased his new album as well. I don't despise anyone, I'm just objective.

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Buttuh dog you really disappointing me out here. You're going mad hard right now over nothin. Just cause you know how to articulate yourself really well doesnt make it anything less of hate.

Oh and I never agreed with "Kobe not wanting Phil" but outside of that, everything Nelly said in this interview was pure truth.

 

[Kellmill]

But it seems like you hate on everything he does. Im shocked to hear you say hes in your top 10

 

[Kellmill]

And also word to the poster that said the UK has serious music journalism, its nice to hear Jay answer legitimate questions that people want to know more about

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

Hova still doing it big with the album sales. Over half a milly sold despite 1 million give aways.

The Half Man Hald Camel stay at the top. Hova the god

 

[Already Home_17]

LOL at this dumbasss sales argument, yeah Wayne sold a mil in the first week twice but only one of his albums have gone past 3 mil in sales. Vol2, Vol3, Black Album have all gone past 3 mil, ya'll are too caught up in the first week. Consistency selling > first week selling.

And Jay's sales have consistently been right below the 2 mill mark over the past 6 years. That's what consistently I'm talking about. From that information I gather that Jay wouldn't easily move past the 2 million mark without the help of Samsung like some claim. That's the exact psychological game Jay-Z plays though. And this is the IC where logic is feelings when someone has a different on your favorite rapper that involved digging beyond the surface.

For the record Im not saying first week sales are more important than anything. Shit, Jay is the one who made it important by constantly bragging about #1 albums which are usually based on first week numbers.

I also find it funny though that Wayne's numbers get dismissed but when you say something about someone else it's perceived as discrediting.

again, bp3 dropped in 2009

Again, it took 4 years. Holy Grail will be double plat in less than 2 months.

Let's stop playing stupid.

nigga, what is your argument?

you went from jay doesn't have a double platinum album since his return (he has two which isn't bad out of four) to it took him 4 years for his last solo album to reach double platinum status

which is it?

 

[buttuh_b]

LOL at this dumbasss sales argument, yeah Wayne sold a mil in the first week twice but only one of his albums have gone past 3 mil in sales. Vol2, Vol3, Black Album have all gone past 3 mil, ya'll are too caught up in the first week. Consistency selling > first week selling.

And Jay's sales have consistently been right below the 2 mill mark over the past 6 years. That's what consistently I'm talking about. From that information I gather that Jay wouldn't easily move past the 2 million mark without the help of Samsung like some claim. That's the exact psychological game Jay-Z plays though. And this is the IC where logic is feelings when someone has a different on your favorite rapper that involved digging beyond the surface.

For the record Im not saying first week sales are more important than anything. Shit, Jay is the one who made it important by constantly bragging about #1 albums which are usually based on first week numbers.

I also find it funny though that Wayne's numbers get dismissed but when you say something about someone else it's perceived as discrediting.

again, bp3 dropped in 2009

Again, it took 4 years. Holy Grail will be double plat in less than 2 months.

Let's stop playing stupid.

nigga, what is your argument?

you went from jay doesn't have a double platinum album since his return (he has two which isn't bad out of four) to it took him 4 years for his last solo album to reach double platinum status

which is it?

This is the last time I'll speak on sales in this thread. I know I kinda started it but y'all tryin to suck me back in.

I said BP3 isn't certified double last time I checked in 2012 and I haven't verified yet but I'll take your word for it. So if it is double it took 4 years.

My point is people making it seem like his numbers aren't inflated and it would normally take Jay much longer than a month to reach double platinum. Y'all replied by bringing up sales from over 10 years ago. Now I'm not saying he wouldn't reach it but it would take a while. I don't think any of this can really be disputed.

Also for good measure, Drake's last album went double in less than a year.

Back to the music though....

 

[S2J]

"Jay Z Blue (Daddy Dearest) is one of the best songs on the album. The song explores Jay feelings about fatherhood and trying to sustain a marriage with a superstar Wife will juggling one of the biggest rap careers as well as mutiple business ventures. I can see why he needs a joint and 3 weeks at the hamptons, lol. The song samples Biggie from his Classic song "My Downfall". As he was eluding to his daughter and the film "Mommy Dearest".

Jay took it a step futher and sampled dialouge from the movie. Big was dealing with fears of success. Jay is dealing with fears of fatherhood. He even spliced in Biggie voice for a few seconds to the point it almost sounded like a duet. It was Errie and gave me chills but it worked perfectly. Also this song was Produced by Timbaland making it the 1st released Timbaland/Biggie callabo. How ever short it was good to hear Big over Tim. The Dramatic Beat is something I could see Big rapping over. But I gave the song 5 MICS in my review and weeks later I feel the same. Amazing song.

Man, what? Lmao

Most of what u just wrote isnt rating the song, its rating the thought behind the song.

Thats all well n good, but the song itself...the actual SOUND of the music..is average. No flow, a choppy beat, and I dont FEEL his emotion.

It remunds me of 'Ballad for A fallen soldier' off BP2: Its supposed to be deep...u want it to be deep...but it just aint there.

 

[buttuh_b]

Here's my review. It's mad long, shit took two posts. I'm terrible at keeping shit concise so I understand if you don't read. But you would have to read the song by song breakdown to understand my true feelings and not just the two paragraphs at the end.
http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/499486/jay-z-magna-carta-holy-grail-review

 

[DarthRozay]

dope shit buttuh

 

[soulbrother]

Honestly there are only 4-5 good songs on the album....but those 4-5 good songs are FIRE!

 

[R.D.]

Heaven

Fuckwithhme

Tom Ford

Holy grail

Nickel and Dime

somewhere in america

that six right there

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

Jay and Hip Hop are winning right now

Jay-Z's chart-topping Magna Carta Holy Grail isn't just a personal triumph for the hip-hop baron. It's another victory lap for rap.

The genre is on a hot streak this summer.

Magna Carta sold 528,000 copies its first week, according to data from Nielsen SoundScan. For the first time, four different rap albums have consecutively held the No. 1 spot.

Kanye West's Yeezus was the first, followed by Wale's The Gifted and J. Cole's Born Sinner.

Magna, Jay-Z's 13th No. 1, extends the rapper's lead among solo artists for the most chart-topping albums. Among all artists, he ranks second behind The Beatles, who have 19, according to Billboard. Elvis Presley and Bruce Springsteen are third with 10 each.

Magna also set a record for the biggest first week ever on digital music service Spotify, with more than 14 million album streams.

 

[DNB1]

VIEWING historical artefacts is not the way most pop stars prepare for a big live gig.

But JAY-Z skipped champagne in his dressing room for a trip to see the Magna Carta in Salisbury Cathedral.

The rapper — real name Shawn Carter — turned up unannounced to see the world-famous 13th Century charter of English rights on Sunday, before playing live in London at Wireless festival with JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE.

Jay named his new album Magna Carta Holy Grail and has had the artwork displayed in the same room as the real thing for several weeks.

On Sunday he arrived after the cathedral’s morning service to look at the 1215 Magna Carta, which is one of four surviving originals, and spent an hour with the Dean of Salisbury touring the cathedral.

A source said: “Jay-Z kept the visit quiet because he didn’t want it to become a big publicity stunt. He travelled down from London in a small group in his classic Aston Martin.

Jay was genuinely touched to see his album near to the real-life Magna Carta in the chapter house.

“He took the occasion seriously and felt honoured to be there. He chatted to the Dean and posed for a few pictures with fans when they asked.”

He made a new fan too. The Dean, The Very Reverend June Osborne, told Bizarre: “It was great to welcome Jay-Z to Salisbury Cathedral.

“He was clearly moved by seeing the original Magna Carta.

“He was a delightful guest and we discussed the work we seek to do here to further the cause of social justice. I think it may have surprised some of our visitors.”

It’s not often rappers are spotted in Wiltshire.

Magna Carta vs Magna Carta

MAGNA CARTA (document)

YEAR WRITTEN: 1215

SECTIONS: 63 clauses

SAMPLE QUOTE: “We will not deny or defer to any man either Justice or Right.”

CONTRIBUTORS: King John, England’s barons, bishops and abbots

MAGNA CARTA HG (album)

YEAR WRITTEN: 2013

SECTIONS: 16 tracks

SAMPLE QUOTE: “I’m still putting work in, ’cos somewhere in America, Miley Cyrus is still twerking.”

CONTRIBUTORS: Beyoncé, Timberlake and Timbaland

Read more:http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag.../jay-z-magna-carta-charter.html#ixzz2ZNvdbMzy

 

[_Menace_]

Jay and Hip Hop are winning right now

Jay-Z's chart-topping Magna Carta Holy Grail isn't just a personal triumph for the hip-hop baron. It's another victory lap for rap.

The genre is on a hot streak this summer.

Magna Carta sold 528,000 copies its first week, according to data from Nielsen SoundScan. For the first time, four different rap albums have consecutively held the No. 1 spot.

Kanye West's Yeezus was the first, followed by Wale's The Gifted and J. Cole's Born Sinner.

Magna, Jay-Z's 13th No. 1, extends the rapper's lead among solo artists for the most chart-topping albums. Among all artists, he ranks second behind The Beatles, who have 19, according to Billboard. Elvis Presley and Bruce Springsteen are third with 10 each.

Magna also set a record for the biggest first week ever on digital music service Spotify, with more than 14 million album streams.

Good fro him but I hope he doesnt try to go chase the Beatles down.

19 #1 albums is alot.

They also have 20 #1 singles and that might be the only record that can get broken.

Mariah is at 18

 

[clippyclipp n*gga]

Being hot doesn't mean shit, being commercially consistent doesn't mean shit. The only thing that means shit is dropping quality music.

LMFAO then what the fuck does Lil Wayne have to lean on them if not sales, it damn sure ain't classic albums or timeless music.

Quality music is the last thing i think of when i think of Wayne. When i think of quality music from this generation, Kanye West is the only person that pops in my head. Oh yeah, he consistently shits on Wayne sales wise too.

Fuck Lil Wayne. I dont give a fuck about Lil Wayne. Do you not get that my whole purpose when talking about sales is to show how irrelevant it is when indicating quality of music?? Popularity shouldn't determine how good an artist is.

If popularity doesn't determine how good an artist is, what does?

I always thought that is something is well liked, it generally means its good....

Form an opinion on the music itself, not external factors.

Reason I argue about sales is because I love business. Jay-Z is one of the most fascinating figures in hip hop when it comes to marketing, management and finance.

However I don't think sales are an indication of quality at all. Fuckin fat ass Adele who isn't talented last album sold 30 million copies. But if you wanna give a rapper props on their sales you should be consistent and fair to everyone. If we get to the business and psychological aspect of it we can say why a rapper sold what they sold. Most people are uninformed though.

anybody who says Adele has no talent but then has gucci mane in their signature. comments and opinions are completely irrelevant.