Jay-Z - 'Magna Carta Holy Grail'

[buttuh_b]

Rihanna is only like 24 and what she has accomplished so far is amazing. That bitch can't sing either but she has some good records every once in a while. She knows how to make a hit.

Adele, she's not terrible vocally but she's nothing special. All she really does is howl. Her album sold 30 million and Jill Scott didn't go gold. And then they call her music soul and try to shit on black singers. Shit like this makes me say she isn't talented.

 

[buttuh_b]

Being hot doesn't mean shit, being commercially consistent doesn't mean shit. The only thing that means shit is dropping quality music.

LMFAO then what the fuck does Lil Wayne have to lean on them if not sales, it damn sure ain't classic albums or timeless music.

Quality music is the last thing i think of when i think of Wayne. When i think of quality music from this generation, Kanye West is the only person that pops in my head. Oh yeah, he consistently shits on Wayne sales wise too.

Fuck Lil Wayne. I dont give a fuck about Lil Wayne. Do you not get that my whole purpose when talking about sales is to show how irrelevant it is when indicating quality of music?? Popularity shouldn't determine how good an artist is.

If popularity doesn't determine how good an artist is, what does?

I always thought that is something is well liked, it generally means its good....

Form an opinion on the music itself, not external factors.

Reason I argue about sales is because I love business. Jay-Z is one of the most fascinating figures in hip hop when it comes to marketing, management and finance.

However I don't think sales are an indication of quality at all. Fuckin fat ass Adele who isn't talented last album sold 30 million copies. But if you wanna give a rapper props on their sales you should be consistent and fair to everyone. If we get to the business and psychological aspect of it we can say why a rapper sold what they sold. Most people are uninformed though.

anybody who says Adele has no talent but then has gucci mane in their signature. comments and opinions are completely irrelevant.

If you say so b. Or you could do the knowledge and check my track record in the R&B section. I ain't nothin but a French Montana fan though.

lmao what does your knowlege on r&b music have to do with adele when adele is not even a r&b singer. your statments get more stupid by the minute. adele has tons of talent whether or not if you like her or not but to say she has no talent is a just plain dumb.

It's R&B and Alternatives section idiot. It's where any form of sung music is discussed on the IC. If it's a thread about that whale bitch it will be made in that subforum.

Jigga Warriors, keep ethering these emotion-filled posts.

 

[Zero Zillion 7]

jayz where his pink bunny costume.... he so lucky nas aint have thishttp://youtu.be/APec27jLXlE

 

[jono]

Adele is cool. There's better black singers though, but I think Adele is kinda soul-ish.

We already know why she sold so many records though.

 

[illedout]

Rihanna is only like 24 and what she has accomplished so far is amazing. That bitch can't sing either but she has some good records every once in a while. She knows how to make a hit.

Adele, she's not terrible vocally but she's nothing special. All she really does is howl. Her album sold 30 million and Jill Scott didn't go gold. And then they call her music soul and try to shit on black singers. Shit like this makes me say she isn't talented.

 

[rapmastermind]

MAGNA CARTA HOLY GRAIL SENDS 7 SONGS TO THE BILLBOARD HOT 100:

#8: Holy Grail (Top 10 Debut)

#39: Tom Ford

#64: Fuckwitmeyouknowigotit

#81: Part II On the Run

#83: Oceans

#91: Picasso Baby

#100: Crown

Well Jay. The world just told you want to release as singles. All these are bangers. Damn at "Holy Grail" debuting in the Top 10. You have to give Justin his credit on this album. He brought some great energy to this project. But wow Jay completely took over with this album.

 

[Nah Son]

People sayin Tom Ford could be the next NIP but I dont see it, it doesnt have that banger feel that NIP had on the first listen

Now Part II is just made for a commercial run, that one should blow up real soon

 

[texasdaking88]

Rihanna is only like 24 and what she has accomplished so far is amazing. That bitch can't sing either but she has some good records every once in a while. She knows how to make a hit.

Adele, she's not terrible vocally but she's nothing special. All she really does is howl. Her album sold 30 million and Jill Scott didn't go gold. And then they call her music soul and try to shit on black singers. Shit like this makes me say she isn't talented.

I figured thats what u meant.. i cosign.. but the fat bitch got talent tho.. just shouldnt be getting as much praise as she does

 

[rapmastermind]

People sayin Tom Ford could be the next NIP but I dont see it, it doesnt have that banger feel that NIP had on the first listen

Now Part II is just made for a commercial run, that one should blow up real soon

I can only speak from my experiences but I heard Tom Ford in the club and it's obvious it's going to be a banger. Remember, "N!ggas In Paris" didn't take off initially and then it grew into a banger. "Tom Ford" is already off to a better start on the Charts than NIP. The beat is vintage Classic Timbo. It bumps. Outside of "Holy Grail" it was the highest charting non-single from the album. It's obvious Tom Ford is an instant Banger by that chart appearance. "On The Run" has the chance to be Jay and Beyonce Biggest hit since "Bonnie and Clyde, Crazy in Love and Deja Vu". The album is already at 1.5 Million and it's obvious it has singles for days. This album is going to do very well once the videos start coming out. Here's the order Jay should release the singles:

Single #1: Holy Grail

Single #2: Picasso Baby

Single #3: Tom Ford

Single #4: Part II On The Run

Single #5: FuckwitmeyouknowIgotit

If the album is still selling after those 5 then you can drop "Oceans" and "Crown".

 

[Disciplined InSight]

People sayin Tom Ford could be the next NIP but I dont see it, it doesnt have that banger feel that NIP had on the first listen

Now Part II is just made for a commercial run, that one should blow up real soon

I can only speak from my experiences but I heard Tom Ford in the club and it's obvious it's going to be a banger. Remember, "N!ggas In Paris" didn't take off initially and then it grew into a banger. "Tom Ford" is already off to a better start on the Charts than NIP. The beat is vintage Classic Timbo. It bumps. Outside of "Holy Grail" it was the highest charting non-single from the album. It's obvious Tom Ford is an instant Banger by that chart appearance. "On The Run" has the chance to be Jay and Beyonce Biggest hit since "Bonnie and Clyde, Crazy in Love and Deja Vu". The album is already at 1.5 Million and it's obvious it has singles for days. This album is going to do very well once the videos start coming out. Here's the order Jay should release the singles:

Single #1: Holy Grail

Single #2: Picasso Baby

Single #3: Tom Ford

Single #4: Part II On The Run

Single #5: FuckwitmeyouknowIgotit

If the album is still selling after those 5 then you can drop "Oceans" and "Crown".

..replace Single #1 with "Oceans".

 

[StoneColdMikey]

Oceans jay favorite song so the first 3 singles no matter what will be tom ford holy grail and oceans in any order. Holy grail might go first only cuz its success. But oceans as single gonna be dope. Jay never released a song like that as a single

 

[StoneColdMikey]

I'm starting to like holy grail a lot even though I don't agree with that long ass jt intro. Shorten Justin's part and that will probably be one of my fav songs

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Oceans jay favorite song so the first 3 singles no matter what will be tom ford holy grail and oceans in any order. Holy grail might go first only cuz its success. But oceans as single gonna be dope. Jay never released a song like that as a single

Exactly the point...this would be another new rule for Jay if anything.

 

[_Menace_]

Adele is cool. There's better black singers though, but I think Adele is kinda soul-ish.

We already know why she sold so many records though.

Only white girl with soul was Teena Marie

Adele ain't seeing her vocally

 

[StoneColdMikey]

this might be on some wtt shit and just the 1st 4 songs are singles

 

[rapmastermind]

People sayin Tom Ford could be the next NIP but I dont see it, it doesnt have that banger feel that NIP had on the first listen

Now Part II is just made for a commercial run, that one should blow up real soon

I can only speak from my experiences but I heard Tom Ford in the club and it's obvious it's going to be a banger. Remember, "N!ggas In Paris" didn't take off initially and then it grew into a banger. "Tom Ford" is already off to a better start on the Charts than NIP. The beat is vintage Classic Timbo. It bumps. Outside of "Holy Grail" it was the highest charting non-single from the album. It's obvious Tom Ford is an instant Banger by that chart appearance. "On The Run" has the chance to be Jay and Beyonce Biggest hit since "Bonnie and Clyde, Crazy in Love and Deja Vu". The album is already at 1.5 Million and it's obvious it has singles for days. This album is going to do very well once the videos start coming out. Here's the order Jay should release the singles:

Single #1: Holy Grail

Single #2: Picasso Baby

Single #3: Tom Ford

Single #4: Part II On The Run

Single #5: FuckwitmeyouknowIgotit

If the album is still selling after those 5 then you can drop "Oceans" and "Crown".

..replace Single #1 with "Oceans".

I love "Oceans" and it's one of the deepest songs of Jay's career and I gave it 5 MICS in my review. But "Holy Grail" is taking off on Radio and on the Charts. Jay has no choice to do a video for it.

 

[rapmastermind]

I'm starting to like holy grail a lot even though I don't agree with that long ass jt intro. Shorten Justin's part and that will probably be one of my fav songs

The Intro to "Holy Grail" is sick cause of the built up to the beat change and Jay coming in. My only issue with the song was the ending, Justin was singing too much on the end of the song. But it's still a dope record and set the album off just right. It's crazy watching the Samsung commercial again after hearing the album. He used every single beat on the commercial but "Holy Grail" is what drove the commercial. With the song debuting at #8 which nobody thought that since again the song isn't even a single. Jay has no choice but to release the song as the 1st single. Not to mention technically it is the title song of the album.

 

[rapmastermind]

Oh Yea, "BBC" has strong single potential. Could end up being Jay and NaS 1st video.

 

[R.D.]

Y'all don't know nothing bout Wayne Perry tho, District of Columbia, Guns on y'all Tumblers

 

[texasdaking88]

Y'all don't know nothing bout Wayne Perry tho, District of Columbia, Guns on y'all Tumblers

Fuck #hashtags and retweets ,nigga