Is there a shortage of Black men, or are women just too picky?

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blackrain;2048130 said:
funny the article talks about bullshit stats and this is one of the biggest myths...when you limit that scope to the age most people are in college there are NOT more black men in jail than college...of course the numbers go up if you include a larger age range...it does for EVERY race

dude read what I said there are more blk men in jail then there are blk woman

in jail which creates a dating in balance.

I NEVER SAID THERE WERE MORE BLK MEN IN JAIL Than in college
 
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dusouljah;2048505 said:
again, just being a professional does not automatically qualify you as a "good black woman"...

and how many women have never been married before?

how many have no children?

how many are good communicators?

how many are victimes of verbal and/or physical abuse?

how many are now verbally and/or physically abusive themselves??

how many are considerate partners?

how many can hold a good conversation?

how many have a nice delicate personality?

how many of them are controlling?

how many of them smoke?

how many of them are unattractive?

how many of them flat out rude and obnoxious people?

yea numbers don't lie, but they damn sure can imply things that are not at all specified....

all those percentages tell you is that those women are single.. it doens't say shit else about them other than they are single...

you would have to interview each one in depth..to find that out...and trust me.....you'll find out quickly....

either they want to be single by choice.. or they're just not high quality of a catch as they would like to beleive they are...

you sir, hit the nail right on the head.....there a lot that think because they have a good job and are independent that all of a sudden, they are a good black woman but they don't take a look at what u just listed. I work at a commercial real estate company and all of the black women in here make good money, but ask me how many of them are smuts or just flat out ignorant. And some are married tryin to throw the pussy at a few of us in here.
 
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dmv_use2thewait;2048575 said:
you sir, hit the nail right on the head.....there a lot that think because they have a good job and are independent that all of a sudden, they are a good black woman but they don't take a look at what u just listed. I work at a commercial real estate company and all of the black women in here make good money, but ask me how many of them are smuts or just flat out ignorant. And some are married tryin to throw the pussy at a few of us in here.

but all those character flaws can be applied to any gender

or race of ppl. so the only hing you can come back to is statistics.
 
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I think what some Black women see as a Black man shortage is their own short sided views of what they require in a male partner. The requirements for a partner for one woman won't be the same for another but neither woman wants to admit that to themselves. Instead, they follow the 'party line' of wanting a Black man that's college educated, finanical responsiblity (finanically stable just doesn't exist in this world anymore, imo), marriage minded, childless & criminal record free. Several conversations with Black women with non-negotiable requirements of 'oh he's real fine & a real catch but he's a IT tech/bus driver/cop..whatever & they're still mad & lonely. Settling & compromising are 2 totally different things & some Black women need to get hip on that.

some really don't want those good quality types of men because they don't believe they're not exciting enough to hold their interest.
 
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politicalthug202;2048602 said:
but all those character flaws can be applied to any gender

or race of ppl. so the only hing you can come back to is statistics.

it can, but we are speaking on black women right now. white, latino and any other race can have the same character flaws but lets be more realistic. Its more of a problem with black women saying its a shortage of men so they don't have to look in the mirror than any other race. they will just blame men. And i'm not saying all black women. And every black man isn't a good man either but don't make it seem like there are hardly any. Because there are millions.
 
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politicalthug202;2048602 said:
but all those character flaws can be applied to any gender

or race of ppl.
so the only hing you can come back to is statistics.

EXACTLY.....so as always the real problem isn't balck men or black women...

the problem is black women thinking it's just black men and black women.....they ain't that special.. the truth is, finding a good match and having a good relationship isn't easy amongst any social groups on this planet...

if it was, divorce rates wouldn't be as high....you wouldn't have as many affairs and mistresses, and shit like that as we see constantly every day in our society...

if you think every other race just has happy couples wheren everyone loves eachother for ever and ever... youre wrong... the problem isn't people of a certain race.. it's people period...

everytime you see one of these rants about shortage of black men, and black women complaining about shit like that,, it's just a mistaken sense of self....thinking that they're a bigger deal than they really are...

all those stats don't mean horse shit if the person making the complaint isn't of any good moral standing...

you know who's not complaining??

happily marriend black women who are taking care of their husbdands and family...thta's who...

they dealt with the same dating pool as these women complaining and yet they found someone to make it work.....or better yet.. he found her amongst a pool of women always complaing about shit they can completely fix themselves if they just chilled the fuck out...
 
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dusouljah;2048667 said:
EXACTLY.....so as always the real problem isn't balck men or black women...

the problem is black women thinking it's just black men and black women.....they ain't that special.. the truth is, finding a good match and having a good relationship isn't easy amongst any social groups on this planet...

if it was, divorce rates wouldn't be as high....you wouldn't have as many affairs and mistresses, and shit like that as we see constantly every day in our society...

if you think every other race just has happy couples wheren everyone loves eachother for ever and ever... youre wrong... the problem isn't people of a certain race.. it's people period...

everytime you see one of these rants about shortage of black men, and black women complaining about shit like that,, it's just a mistaken sense of self....thinking that they're a bigger deal than they really are...

all those stats don't mean horse shit if the person making the complaint isn't of any good moral standing...

you know who's not complaining??

happily marriend black women who are taking care of their husbdands and family...thta's who...

they dealt with the same dating pool as these women complaining and yet they found someone to make it work.....or better yet.. he found her amongst a pool of women always complaing about shit they can completely fix themselves if they just chilled the fuck out...

inflated sense of self....terrible disease many people suffer from
 
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JadaRoss;2048631 said:
I think what some Black women see as a Black man shortage is their own short sided views of what they require in a male partner. The requirements for a partner for one woman won't be the same for another but neither woman wants to admit that to themselves. Instead, they follow the 'party line' of wanting a Black man that's college educated, finanical responsiblity (finanically stable just doesn't exist in this world anymore, imo), marriage minded, childless & criminal record free. Several conversations with Black women with non-negotiable requirements of 'oh he's real fine & a real catch but he's a IT tech/bus driver/cop..whatever & they're still mad & lonely. Settling & compromising are 2 totally different things & some Black women need to get hip on that.

some really don't want those good quality types of men because they don't believe they're not exciting enough to hold their interest.

very true, i've been told by a couple of women when they met me they thought i wasn't gonna be exciting because what i do and the fact that i didn't come out the mouth like "wassup ma" or i wasn't all aggressively coming up on em and the fact that i even smiled a lot. They thought i wasn't gonna have any edge. Until they got to know me and saw i was more exciting than anybody they had dealt with...now both are sprung and in love with me and want to be my girl so bad.
 
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dusouljah;2048667 said:
EXACTLY.....so as always the real problem isn't balck men or black women...

the problem is black women thinking it's just black men and black women.....they ain't that special.. the truth is, finding a good match and having a good relationship isn't easy amongst any social groups on this planet...

if it was, divorce rates wouldn't be as high....you wouldn't have as many affairs and mistresses, and shit like that as we see constantly every day in our society...

if you think every other race just has happy couples wheren everyone loves eachother for ever and ever... youre wrong... the problem isn't people of a certain race.. it's people period...

everytime you see one of these rants about shortage of black men, and black women complaining about shit like that,, it's just a mistaken sense of self....thinking that they're a bigger deal than they really are...

all those stats don't mean horse shit if the person making the complaint isn't of any good moral standing...

you know who's not complaining??

happily marriend black women who are taking care of their husbdands and family...thta's who...

they dealt with the same dating pool as these women complaining and yet they found someone to make it work.....or better yet.. he found her amongst a pool of women always complaing about shit they can completely fix themselves if they just chilled the fuck out...

dude it statiscally proven there are more blk woman than men walking around

and that gap is bigger relative to other races all those problems regarding moral

standing can be applied to blk men as well. and blk woman have a significantly smaller dating

pool is it over exaggerated yes but blk woman have a point, an average or ugly white chick

has way better options then a average or ugly blk chicks. it statiscally proven and I see it everyday
 
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That nicki minaj stuff ain't helping men. Now you got confident fat bustdowns rejecting dudes like they fine or have a decent personality! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
 
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politicalthug202;2048717 said:
dude it statiscally proven there are more blk woman than men walking around
and that gap is bigger relative to other races all those problems regarding moral
standing can be applied to blk men as well. and blk woman have a significantly smaller dating
pool is it over exaggerated yes but blk woman have a point, an average or ugly white chick
has way better options then a average or ugly blk chicks. it statiscally proven and I see it everyday

but the problem is that these women aren't basing their complaints on a lack of black men numbers wise...they're saying there's a lack of black men that fit their "standards" in general regardless of how many outnumber them
 
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politicalthug202;2048717 said:
dude it statiscally proven there are more blk woman than men walking around

and that gap is bigger relative to other races all those problems regarding moral

standing can be applied to blk men as well. and blk woman have a significantly smaller dating

pool is it over exaggerated yes but blk woman have a point, an average or ugly white chick

has way better options then a average or ugly blk chicks. it statiscally proven and I see it everyday

no the point is, the best get picked, and the rest cry about it, instead of figureing out what's wrong with them to not get picked...

no official stats, but from my experinces i say 1 outta every 20 black women i've come across are actually what I consider women that I can see myself taking seriously....

so that's like what? 5%......

then take into the account that they actually have to want to deal with me on that level as well.....compatability is essential...

so now you're talking like 1% or less than 1%.....

so as many more black women there are than black men... i still looking at less than 1% odds of finding someone i match with.....

see where i'm going with this?

if i consider such a small percentage as actually match worthy....shouldn't the stress be on what are these women out here doing that makes so many of them seem undesirable?

real talk, if your average black man considered even 3 outta 5 of every black woman he came across take home to momma, fuck everything else we getting married material....THEN black women would have something to complain about.. shit and tht's only 60%....unless you got perfect attendance a nigga can easliy flunk out with a 60 average...

the fact of the matter is that the dating pool on both sides is extremely limited, no matter who you are, what race you are, the likely hood of finding a good mate is extremely low, simply because most people just aren't compatable for a whole list of reasons....

by trying to limit it to one paticular racial group, you're ice skating up a hill...

if black women really beleive that the reason they're single is because of a shortage of black men.....they're just not identifying the real problem
 
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blue virgo;2048231 said:
That's very rude. I always say "thank you"...it's almost reflexive.

Also, guys don't have to hold the door open.

they dont have to but it should be required....

i teach my 14 yr old son that he should hold the door for all ladies...if they dont say thank you...f em....but always be a gentleman and never let a lady change that
 
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blackrain;2048743 said:
but the problem is that these women aren't basing their complaints on a lack of black men numbers wise...they're saying there's a lack of black men that fit their "standards" in general regardless of how many outnumber them

if there lack of men in actual numbers then obviously it is gonna be harder

to find a man who like. if there are 20 bitches in club instead of 5 obviously its gonna be easy to

find a bitch that I like.
 
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politicalthug202;2048780 said:
if there lack of men in actual numbers then obviously it is gonna be harder

to find a man who like. if there are 20 bitches in club instead of 5 obviously its gonna be easy to

find a bitch that I like.

any nigga can find a bitch, and any bitch can find a nigga....

a shortage of niggaz and bitches has never been and never will be a problem..
 
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dusouljah;2048758 said:
no the point is, the best get picked, and the rest cry about it, instead of figureing out what's wrong with them to not get picked...

no official stats, but from my experinces i say 1 outta every 20 black women i've come across are actually what I consider women that I can see myself taking seriously....

so that's like what? 5%......

then take into the account that they actually have to want to deal with me on that level as well.....compatability is essential...

so now you're talking like 1% or less than 1%.....

so as many more black women there are than black men... i still looking at less than 1% odds of finding someone i match with.....

see where i'm going with this?

if i consider such a small percentage as actually match worthy....shouldn't the stress be on what are these women out here doing that makes so many of them seem undesirable?

real talk, if your average black man considered even 3 outta 5 of every black woman he came across take home to momma, fuck everything else we getting married material....THEN black women would have something to complain about.. shit and tht's only 60%....unless you got perfect attendance a nigga can easliy flunk out with a 60 average...

the fact of the matter is that the dating pool on both sides is extremely limited, no matter who you are, what race you are, the likely hood of finding a good mate is extremely low, simply because most people just aren't compatable for a whole list of reasons....

by trying to limit it to one paticular racial group, you're ice skating up a hill...

if black women really beleive that the reason they're single is because of a shortage of black men.....they're just not identifying the real problem

if thats the case why are white and hispanic have higher marriage rates and lower divorce

rates. obviously if they doing better in a market ,there has to be an X factor regarding blk ppl

making are stats look worse.
 
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politicalthug202;2048816 said:
if thats the case why are white and hispanic have higher marriage rates and lower divorce

rates. obviously if they doing better in a market ,there has to be an X factor regarding blk ppl

making are stats look worse.

they still cheat, have mistresses, domestic abuse and side kids... maybe it's more of a cultural standard to not have divorces....also whites have shown a much stronger tendecy to go to counseling

@ bolded...i think you just WANT it to be black men too bad...
 
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black women hate black men, period.......they have been conditioned to do so, how many niggas you know work a decent middle class income paying job and have only had a woman maybe 4 or less times, its alot more of them than of those that are in jail or unemployed............this how it goes the poor women have been conditioned to want the rich superman type nigga, or thug d-boy type cat, she sees the working class good dude as weak and a pushover, while the educated well off women sees the middle class black man as lazy and settling, she has her eyes set on either a drug kingpin type nigga or rich nigga or equivelant in pay to her..............white women choose white men that are in the working class, that middle is accepted thus making it appear that there's a shortage in black men, when its not, rather the black middle man has been designed to be hated by all including black women
 
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politicalthug202;2048816 said:
if thats the case why are white and hispanic have higher marriage rates and lower divorce
rates. obviously if they doing better in a market ,there has to be an X factor regarding blk ppl
making are stats look worse.

reason whites and mexicans have a shorter divorce rate cause they follow their parents and heritage traditions which are passed on from generation to generation,black women and men just dont know what the fuck they want.reason so many black women cant get married or dont get married cause their ideal men are running the streets and cant stay out of damn trouble.they overlook the good men for some thug name loc dogg 40 who chances of living pass 24 is slim to none.she pops out his babies,he leaves the house ,sell drugs on the side,sleepign with skanks and popping out kids with them.women continue to forgive the men who hurt them over and over again,which leads to problems within the relationship pool and marriage pool.not saying dogs dont deserve a chance but hey make sure you dont get caught up in his webs of lies and deceit.

then down the road she feel as if she deserves a good man,aint that a bitch
 
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dusouljah;2048830 said:
they still cheat, have mistresses, domestic abuse and side kids... maybe it's more of a cultural standard to not have divorces....also whites have shown a much stronger tendecy to go to counseling

@ bolded...i think you just WANT it to be black men too bad...

dude Im a blk man, Im not trying to make us look bad,

but one of the reason I think things never get better in the blk

community as we tend to ignore facts,and make excuses and things never get solved.

There is a PROBLEM with education,poverty, jail and just quality of life with blk

ppl which affects everything from child development to marriage compatability.

we not doing blk ppl any favor by not acknowledging there is a problem.
 
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