Fair or Foul: Stephen A Smith's Comments About Domestic Violence

[LUClEN]

 

[playmaker88]

That Asian is questionable as fuck

 

[MarcusGarvey]

In today's society it's ingrained in every mans head not to swing on woman, if you dumb to do it, then you deserve the consequences that come with it. Ray Rice should've got a 4 game suspension.

On the hand, women should listen to Whoppi. Keep your hands to yourself.

 

[VulcanRaven]

In today's society it's ingrained in every mans head not to swing on woman, if you dumb to do it, then you deserve the consequences that come with it. Ray Rice should've got a 4 game suspension.

On the hand, women should listen to Whoppi. Keep your hands to yourself.

Can't agree with that. They should be satisfied he got 2.I don't think he should have got any.If he hit a man that spit on him nothing would have happened.

 

[MarcusGarvey]

 

[Dr. Stitch]

That Asian is questionable as fuck

All them niggas see is the tittiez mayn

 

[MarcusGarvey]

In today's society it's ingrained in every mans head not to swing on woman, if you dumb to do it, then you deserve the consequences that come with it. Ray Rice should've got a 4 game suspension.

On the hand, women should listen to Whoppi. Keep your hands to yourself.

Can't agree with that. They should be satisfied he got 2.I don't think he should have got any.If he hit a man that spit on him nothing would have happened.

None? Really? Ok. When you run a $10B a year, public sentiment matters.

2 game suspension is something like DUIs, marijuana arrests or dog fighting

 

[VulcanRaven]

In today's society it's ingrained in every mans head not to swing on woman, if you dumb to do it, then you deserve the consequences that come with it. Ray Rice should've got a 4 game suspension.

On the hand, women should listen to Whoppi. Keep your hands to yourself.

Can't agree with that. They should be satisfied he got 2.I don't think he should have got any.If he hit a man that spit on him nothing would have happened.

None? Really? Ok. When you run a $10B a year, public sentiment matters.

2 game suspension is something like DUIs, marijuana arrests or dog fighting

I don't care about all that shit. 2 games is enough.Especially when both are division games.We trying to make it back to the play offs b.Fuck a battered bitch.

 

[jay83]

wait stephen a made an apology on first take and got suspended later anyway?

 

[7figz]

wait stephen a made an apology on first take and got suspended later anyway?

Yup, they decapitated that nigga. (Kat Williams voice)

 

[twizza 77]

wait stephen a made an apology on first take and got suspended later anyway?

They did that for show reasons.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Yeah, that's something that gets lost in this too. People complain that the NFL was too light on Rice, but fail to mention that the NFL has details we don't because they are getting the full account from both sides. And, there was an independent mediator who also heard it all and agreed that the NFL's decision was fair.

[center=]Kravitz: If Ray Rice gets two games, Irsay will get 10 minutes[/center]

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/kravitz/2014/07/28/kravitz-ray-rice-gets-two-games-irsay-will-get-minutes/13286629/

If Ray Rice got a two-game suspension for allegedly striking and knocking out his then fiancee, what's commissioner Roger Goodell got in store for Jim Irsay?

A 10-minute suspension?

And a $100 fine, payable in $20 bills?

Once upon a time, Goodell was seen as a heavy-handed, draconian disciplinarian. But in the Rice case, he comes off as shockingly lenient and tone-deaf to one of the most serious issues in our society — violence against women. The league that makes such a big deal about going pink for Breast Cancer Awareness Month just slapped all its female fans right in the face, just as Rice was alleged to have done to the woman who is now his wife.

As I was coming up to Anderson Monday morning, I made a point of listening to Adolpho Birch, the NFL's vice president of labor policy and government affairs, speak to ESPN's "Mike and Mike." It was one of the most embarrassingly inept responses to questions I've ever heard, an endless loop of specious blatherings. Birch tried to make the case not only that the Rice suspension was fair, but that it sent a strong message to NFL players that violence against women will not be tolerated.

Seriously, he said that.

A strong message.

Excuse me?

To their credit, both Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic called Birch on his statement, then opened the floodgates to callers who were outraged by the Goodell decision and the Birch mock-explanation. (Next time, Roger, go on the radio yourself rather than sending out a lieutenant).

Which brings us to the next item on the commissioner's disciplinary to-do list: Make the call on Irsay.

A conspiracy theorist would suggest that the Rice suspension was laughably soft so that the bar would be set absurdly low for a potential Irsay suspension, which, you would think, would have to come down within the next few weeks. If Rice gets just two games for allegedly hitting his fiancee — the TMZ video only showed him dragging her around unconscious, but the NFL is said to have elevator video that shows far worse — then how does that bode for Irsay, who was charged with driving while under the influence of drugs?

"In the NFL, I don't think they take domestic abuse against women seriously enough; I want to see the commissioner come down fierce on (the Rice case)," former NFL linebacker Scott Fujita told Jim Rome before Rice's sentence was handed down. "And also driving under the influence. We don't take that issue seriously enough. Those are two issues now, and that's where the commissioner has to do the right thing …"

Until this point, Goodell had been largely reasonable and consistent. He'd been tough, a relentless hammer when it comes to arbitrating these cases, but he'd been consistent.

This time, though, he went off the rails. The NFL, and specifically Birch, talked about precedent in this case, but Ben Roethlisberger was suspended six games — eventually it was reduced to four games — for his involvement in a sexual assault case.

In that case, it never went to court, but the NFL maintained its own standard of conduct and hit Roethlisberger with a reasonably tough suspension.

In this case, Rice was put into a diversionary program in order to forego a trial, and the commissioner went soft on him.

This is a league that's run by smart people, which makes me wonder: How could several NFL executives come together in a meeting room and reach the conclusion, "You know, this seems fair"? How tone deaf are they? How could they fail to know there would be incredible blowback, not only from the media but from fans outside of Baltimore. (And, I'm guessing, inside Baltimore, too.)

Granted, drug suspensions are collectively bargained, written in stone, while issues like the Rice case are left to Goodell to arbitrate. But you wonder what kind of message is sent when pot smokers get longer suspensions than people who engage in domestic violence. You wonder what kind of message is sent when Robert Mathis takes a fertility drug (also a steroid masking agent) and gets four games, yet Rice gets just two games.

The NFL is still seen, sometimes accurately, as a boys-will-be-boys culture where disrespect of women remains a major problem. Goodell could have shown this wasn't the case. He could have ascended the soapbox, got behind his bully pulpit and issued a declaration that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated in any area of the sport.

If there's something the public doesn't know, or hasn't seen, then Goodell should be fully transparent here. It's not enough to send Birch out there to be consumed by wolves. Goodell needs to step out and share with fans how he reached such a befuddling conclusion here.

Rice is the one who should be paying the price in this case.

Instead, it's the NFL.

 

[Maximus Rex]

When women make the statement that "man should never hit a woman, under any circumstances," what they're actually say is that women are so mentally and emotionally unhinged that they're incapable of controlling themselves and everything that has been said about a women being ruled by their emotions and incapable of lucid and rationale thought is the absolute truth. The most damning part of the acknowledgment of this truth is, women are also admitting that men are not only their physical, but also their mental and intellectual superiors. It all goes back to what I said earlier, if women want to be treated as equals, they have to accept the responsibility that comes with that equality.

 

[count remy]

It's Bullshit. but... ya know.... this passed for comedy at one point. where was that Beadle chick then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BVXiHh95Tc

 

[2stepz_ahead]

mini skirt vs hoodie

 

[LUClEN]

The most illogical thing about this seems to be the selective rejection of antiquated ideas by feminists and radical anti-domestic violence advocates

Outdated views that women are weaker than men and need protecting are rejected along with ideas that women are better at certain things than men and therefore should stay in specific fields of work and areas of home life

Yet the idea that men are inherently stronger and therefore should be able to take abuse and handle the rough side of life are not, and seem to justify their stance that hitting women is wrong and assault cases involving men and women need to be treated differently than those involving just men

They reject that they're weaker and less capable while at the same time hiding behind the idea when it benefits them

If the idea is wrong then it's wrong

feelings do not make it right when it fits your particular interest and wrong when it does not

Spoiler

Feminist Ethics is an attempt to revise, reformulate, or rethink traditional ethics to the extent it depreciates or devalues women's moral experience. Among others, feminist philosopher Alison Jaggar faults traditional ethics for letting women down in five related ways. First, it shows less concern for women's as opposed to men's issues and interests. Second, traditional ethics views as trivial the moral issues that arise in the so-called private world, the realm in which women do housework and take care of children, the infirm, and the elderly. Third, it implies that, in general, women are not as morally mature or deep as men. Fourth, traditional ethics overrates culturally masculine traits like “independence, autonomy, intellect, will, wariness, hierarchy, domination, culture, transcendence, product, asceticism, war, and death,” while it underrates culturally feminine traits like “interdependence, community, connection, sharing, emotion, body, trust, absence of hierarchy, nature, immanence, process, joy, peace, and life.” Fifth, and finally, it favors “male” ways of moral reasoning that emphasize rules, rights, universality, and impartiality over “female” ways of moral reasoning that emphasize relationships, responsibilities, particularity, and partiality

basically feminist ethics endorse biases

 

[CockMcStuffins]

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[UinitiatedMgt]

Stephen A. Smith said NOTHING wrong. If a woman hits a man, IT PROVOKES A MAN to hit back.

Self defense is only okay for women now??? Michelle Beadle is a dumb fucking cunt

Hitting back isn't needed to neutralize a flailing female. Of course there are outliers, but a female isn't going to seriously hurt you. Hold 'em off like you would any child, elderly person, or little shit dog who thinks physically attacking an able-bodied adult male is a smart idea.

You're an idiot

Fair.

Caught up on the strength differences, I completely overlooked the mental aspect of it. An adult's emotional intelligence shouldn't be compared to a child's nor should it be compared to a small dog's. You're right, that was an idiotic post.

 

[blakfyahking]

When women make the statement that "man should never hit a woman, under any circumstances," what they're actually say is that women are so mentally and emotionally unhinged that they're incapable of controlling themselves and everything that has been said about a women being ruled by their emotions and incapable of lucid and rationale thought is the absolute truth. The most damning part of the acknowledgment of this truth is, women are also admitting that men are not only their physical, but also their mental and intellectual superiors. It all goes back to what I said earlier, if women want to be treated as equals, they have to accept the responsibility that comes with that equality.

this pure unadulterated logic makes feminists' collective heads explode whenever this point is brought up

this is the real reason why sexism continues to exist and women will never be taken seriously when they claim they are looking for equality

 

[MallyG]

If women want equal rights they better be prepared to catch equal lefts

What makes this even more hilarious is that ya avatar got Ashy Larry lookin' like he jus gave a mean left uppercut to a bish! lol