Dez Bryant Says Black People Are The Reason They Are Unsuccessful,Not White People...

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They ain't ready Dez, I feel ya tho brotha. I get what he's saying, agree with the sentiment. I understand why some people are angry about what he said. And the world keeps on spinning round and round.
 
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SolemnSauce;c-9723043 said:
They ain't ready Dez, I feel ya tho brotha. I get what he's saying, agree with the sentiment. I understand why some people are angry about what he said. And the world keeps on spinning round and round.

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Maywood;c-9723051 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9723043 said:
They ain't ready Dez, I feel ya tho brotha. I get what he's saying, agree with the sentiment. I understand why some people are angry about what he said. And the world keeps on spinning round and round.

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dnyce215;c-9722418 said:
What is the definition of being black? I struggle to find this definition?

To many being black is directly tied to struggling. Niggas is lying if they say there's not a certain stigma of being soft or not black enough with black folks who didn't have to struggle coming up. Its why niggas who grew up in the suburbs sometimes go out of their way to act hard around hood niggas. Its why some kids in the hood struggled with feeling confident about expressing interest in certain things before the internet exposed them to a whole world of people into the same shit they're into the same shit. Its why some people think you somehow can't appreciate good shit in life without struggling to get it. Take it from a nigga who grew up struggling through poverty, multiple evictions, and credit I'm just now getting right because of my mom putting shit in my name....struggling is overrated. Its not required in order to appreciate the good shit in life.

With that said...Dez didn't speak the whole picture. You can't just ignore the effect white folks have had on the progression of black folks. Is it all white folks? No..but you can't speak on the issue without painting the whole picture. It leaves too many wholes to poke through your argument
 
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nex gin;c-9723058 said:
The problem is not one-sided. Both Dez and Shannon are correct in certain respects

With his point being, Jim Crowe, Segregation, Slavery all existed. All the doing mostly by the white man. When you walk in a store as a black man. And it's filled with white people, you're looked at in fear. When its filled with black people, you're looked at as a threat.

Given our history, only one of those logically makes sense. The other shouldn't be, and it's upon us to kill that. Cause that...affects us as strong if not stronger than the other in our day to day lives.
 
D. Morgan;c-9722824 said:
Trillfate;c-9722801 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722395 said:
Trillfate;c-9722271 said:
ghostdog56;c-9722260 said:
Smh at an athlete comparing his success to a regular person.

Imagine if that inarticulate nigga had to use his mind instead of athleticism to make a living, he'd change his tune

but why bash him for understanding his mind won't get him anywhere....so use his body.

so now niggas who find there calling is a bad thing?

Why is he bashing ppl who arent as blessed as he is?

He shouldn't be uttering Anything a bigot/white supremacist would cosign and retweet... how soon we forget that before he got drafted the white media slandered the fuck outta him in attempts to fuck his draft stock aka money. Allegations of his mother being a crackhead were at the forefront of his draft status. Now the nigga rich and wanna act brand new, foh

That shit was wild

At the combine a team person asked: What did your father do for a living?

Dez: My father was a pimp

Team person: What did your mother do for a living?

Dez: My mother worked for my father

Team person: So was your mother a hoe?

Dez goes crying to the media about being offended by the question.

I remember that shit like it was yesterday

Dez didn't leak that to the media..someone who was in the room when the question was asked did...
 
SolemnSauce;c-9723054 said:
Maywood;c-9723051 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9723043 said:
They ain't ready Dez, I feel ya tho brotha. I get what he's saying, agree with the sentiment. I understand why some people are angry about what he said. And the world keeps on spinning round and round.

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SolemnSauce;c-9723077 said:
Maywood;c-9723075 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9723054 said:
Maywood;c-9723051 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9723043 said:
They ain't ready Dez, I feel ya tho brotha. I get what he's saying, agree with the sentiment. I understand why some people are angry about what he said. And the world keeps on spinning round and round.

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Cho ass Up

Don't make me make you look stupid

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U like JayZ b?

Yes & can please hurry up w/the analogy
 
R.D.;c-9723029 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722981 said:
BOSSExcellence;c-9722915 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722906 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722686 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722638 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722602 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722590 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722585 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722573 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722567 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722557 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722535 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722516 said:
The crab natural habitat is not a bucket. Then America is not our natural habitat but an artificial environment meant to capture us and detain us while we develop Stockholm Syndrome. Ecology and psychology is vital in understanding why black Americans aren't doing so hot in America and history as well.

imma stop you there.

black Americans are doing very well considering the circumstances an history.

the problem is not enough are doing well.

we have the ability to take over an sweep this country from under cacs. not saying this will be easy at all. we must believe in ourselves more.

Most black people don't know how to do well and that is an issue. We are doing good, but as you said not good enough. We are still swimming in a artificial environment that was not made for us. Most people aren't going to rise as fast as others. It's a process and a very slow one. We are only 50 years removed from Jim Crow and 150 years removed from slavery and if you study history we are moving quite fast. Europe didn't rise until about a 1000 years after the fall of Rome start moving at a fast pace. In 200 or 300 year we'll be way ahead of the game.

so you said all that to agree with me....lol

but some want to do better and some don't....I think it leans too far in the wrong direction.

just my opinion

Nah, you're acting like it should happen much more quickly and rapidly, but the psychological traumas are here and still here and we are slowly assimilating with them at a much quicker rate than actually progressing as a unit.

see...this is where people usually get me confused...

I work at high levels with white people. this is...they dumb ass hell.

on the flip side, I am from the hood. slit of people there are smart as fukk.

the difference is one person us not convinced they are smart enough and the other wants you to prove they are not smart enough.

we gotta stop with this conditioning shit.

we do that to each other.

that type thinking comes from aint shit parents. passing aint shit ideas down.

kids pick up on shit an take it to heart.

we have obstacles, yes. but that doesn't mean success is out of reach.

he's a sell out

he's a cornball

he talks white

he acts white

he wanted to live around white people

he wants that white education

ask any black male who is doing the damn thing and I am sure he has heard one of them at some point.

crazy because successful black women dint get the same type heat or need to prove their blackness.

cmon man...I live what your trying to get at.

Do you know how psychological roots take to fix? Most people globally do not defeat inner childhood trauma, it's usually irreversible without high level of psychological treatment, it's your bodies reaction from being wiped out, self preservation which could also lead to a species downfall. Best thing to do is to promote healthy psychological treatment in order to bring people out of their darkness.

i hear what you trying to say....I just don't agree to an extent.

I personally think the wrong thing is pushed to our black kids.

but it's crazy because the not wanting to try can be turned on and off.

hear me out.

niggas will go relentlessly after a phat ass, nudes, taking a niggas chick.

but that same effort is not present when told to step up to better their self.....please dint take this as all black people...just a small example.

but anyway....it is controllable... care to dispute this

@Ajackson17

It is controllable definitely, but you to combat this you'll need to understand psychologists and there are plenty of black psychologists working on this as we speak. Then you'll need your historians, then you'll need your business men as such as yourself and other fields of expertise to combat this and work as a conglomerate. It'll take a lot of thinking and resources and working to completely attack this, but we need something beyond the NCAAP and other black organizations that are specifically for black people.

or have more positive black american males around.

a positive man can make a world of difference in a child's life.

Positive black men and women. You need both, but we have to define what's positive and what's negative as well. That's when we get in what I always say we need to define our culture that is from New York to Los Angeles, everything else is sub-culture, but the main culture needs to be defined what we value as positive and what we value as negative. A black man with a degree, his own house, good job, clean, church goer but could be very misogynistic and against our African roots. In a way he could be very damaging in a lot of other ways as well. We have to think very critically.

THATS the problem wit "black culture" right there..

moreso then "misogynistic and against our African roots."

but yall aint tryin to hear me tho..

They are rooted in the same. But misogyny is a huge problem and just up there with the church. That's discrimination on black women and there are more of them than us. And they are the biggest organizers of police brutality. So that could just be as harmful as the church can be in especially to black men's favor.

I disagree

Misogyny is bullshit

Women have so much power and no clue how to collectively leverage it

Black men ain't misogynistic. Ain't even in our DNA. When we were kings, there were equal Queens who held their own kingdoms

Black men are on the defensive cause we getting it from all angles. There is no us vs. them battle going on but people keep trying to speak it into existence.

Misogyny is some gay shit so you know where it came from. @zzombie

There's no logical way you can observe the world and say mysogony is bullshit.
 
It's ALL CONNECTED. There's black people who won't do shit for themselves and are holding themselves back. Then you have others that are trying to be successful that are being held back by systematic racism. The statistics don't lie when comparing whites and blacks with the same educational background. Dez just try to lump everybody together which is ignorant as hell, but I'm not offended by what Dez said either because he never came off to me as highly intelligent.

The only time I have high expectations of him is him getting me my fantasy points when he ain't lined up against Janoris Jenkins.
 
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Maywood;c-9723087 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9723077 said:
Maywood;c-9723075 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9723054 said:
Maywood;c-9723051 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9723043 said:
They ain't ready Dez, I feel ya tho brotha. I get what he's saying, agree with the sentiment. I understand why some people are angry about what he said. And the world keeps on spinning round and round.

esopyod2uydu.gif


Cho ass Up

Don't make me make you look stupid

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Patiently

U like JayZ b?

Yes & can please hurry up w/the analogy

Nah, if you're a JayZ fan as you say you are and you don't get what Dez is saying. You don't listen to lyrics, you just dick ride what everyone else thinks is popular.
 
Look here lil Daddy soon as you mentioned Hov,The comparison you attempted to make w/Jay selling to his own people ,mother ect & Dez fell flat. Matter of fact don't you have similar issues w/your people ?
 
blackrain;c-9723090 said:
R.D.;c-9723029 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722981 said:
BOSSExcellence;c-9722915 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722906 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722686 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722638 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722602 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722590 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722585 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722573 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722567 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722557 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722535 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722516 said:
The crab natural habitat is not a bucket. Then America is not our natural habitat but an artificial environment meant to capture us and detain us while we develop Stockholm Syndrome. Ecology and psychology is vital in understanding why black Americans aren't doing so hot in America and history as well.

imma stop you there.

black Americans are doing very well considering the circumstances an history.

the problem is not enough are doing well.

we have the ability to take over an sweep this country from under cacs. not saying this will be easy at all. we must believe in ourselves more.

Most black people don't know how to do well and that is an issue. We are doing good, but as you said not good enough. We are still swimming in a artificial environment that was not made for us. Most people aren't going to rise as fast as others. It's a process and a very slow one. We are only 50 years removed from Jim Crow and 150 years removed from slavery and if you study history we are moving quite fast. Europe didn't rise until about a 1000 years after the fall of Rome start moving at a fast pace. In 200 or 300 year we'll be way ahead of the game.

so you said all that to agree with me....lol

but some want to do better and some don't....I think it leans too far in the wrong direction.

just my opinion

Nah, you're acting like it should happen much more quickly and rapidly, but the psychological traumas are here and still here and we are slowly assimilating with them at a much quicker rate than actually progressing as a unit.

see...this is where people usually get me confused...

I work at high levels with white people. this is...they dumb ass hell.

on the flip side, I am from the hood. slit of people there are smart as fukk.

the difference is one person us not convinced they are smart enough and the other wants you to prove they are not smart enough.

we gotta stop with this conditioning shit.

we do that to each other.

that type thinking comes from aint shit parents. passing aint shit ideas down.

kids pick up on shit an take it to heart.

we have obstacles, yes. but that doesn't mean success is out of reach.

he's a sell out

he's a cornball

he talks white

he acts white

he wanted to live around white people

he wants that white education

ask any black male who is doing the damn thing and I am sure he has heard one of them at some point.

crazy because successful black women dint get the same type heat or need to prove their blackness.

cmon man...I live what your trying to get at.

Do you know how psychological roots take to fix? Most people globally do not defeat inner childhood trauma, it's usually irreversible without high level of psychological treatment, it's your bodies reaction from being wiped out, self preservation which could also lead to a species downfall. Best thing to do is to promote healthy psychological treatment in order to bring people out of their darkness.

i hear what you trying to say....I just don't agree to an extent.

I personally think the wrong thing is pushed to our black kids.

but it's crazy because the not wanting to try can be turned on and off.

hear me out.

niggas will go relentlessly after a phat ass, nudes, taking a niggas chick.

but that same effort is not present when told to step up to better their self.....please dint take this as all black people...just a small example.

but anyway....it is controllable... care to dispute this

@Ajackson17

It is controllable definitely, but you to combat this you'll need to understand psychologists and there are plenty of black psychologists working on this as we speak. Then you'll need your historians, then you'll need your business men as such as yourself and other fields of expertise to combat this and work as a conglomerate. It'll take a lot of thinking and resources and working to completely attack this, but we need something beyond the NCAAP and other black organizations that are specifically for black people.

or have more positive black american males around.

a positive man can make a world of difference in a child's life.

Positive black men and women. You need both, but we have to define what's positive and what's negative as well. That's when we get in what I always say we need to define our culture that is from New York to Los Angeles, everything else is sub-culture, but the main culture needs to be defined what we value as positive and what we value as negative. A black man with a degree, his own house, good job, clean, church goer but could be very misogynistic and against our African roots. In a way he could be very damaging in a lot of other ways as well. We have to think very critically.

THATS the problem wit "black culture" right there..

moreso then "misogynistic and against our African roots."

but yall aint tryin to hear me tho..

They are rooted in the same. But misogyny is a huge problem and just up there with the church. That's discrimination on black women and there are more of them than us. And they are the biggest organizers of police brutality. So that could just be as harmful as the church can be in especially to black men's favor.

I disagree

Misogyny is bullshit

Women have so much power and no clue how to collectively leverage it

Black men ain't misogynistic. Ain't even in our DNA. When we were kings, there were equal Queens who held their own kingdoms

Black men are on the defensive cause we getting it from all angles. There is no us vs. them battle going on but people keep trying to speak it into existence.

Misogyny is some gay shit so you know where it came from. @zzombie

There's no logical way you can observe the world and say mysogony is bullshit.

agreed but he is right in that niggas aint misogynistic..

not naturally atleast..

its not who we are..
 
blackrain;c-9723090 said:
R.D.;c-9723029 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722981 said:
BOSSExcellence;c-9722915 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722906 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722686 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722638 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722602 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722590 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722585 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722573 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722567 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722557 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9722535 said:
Ajackson17;c-9722516 said:
The crab natural habitat is not a bucket. Then America is not our natural habitat but an artificial environment meant to capture us and detain us while we develop Stockholm Syndrome. Ecology and psychology is vital in understanding why black Americans aren't doing so hot in America and history as well.

imma stop you there.

black Americans are doing very well considering the circumstances an history.

the problem is not enough are doing well.

we have the ability to take over an sweep this country from under cacs. not saying this will be easy at all. we must believe in ourselves more.

Most black people don't know how to do well and that is an issue. We are doing good, but as you said not good enough. We are still swimming in a artificial environment that was not made for us. Most people aren't going to rise as fast as others. It's a process and a very slow one. We are only 50 years removed from Jim Crow and 150 years removed from slavery and if you study history we are moving quite fast. Europe didn't rise until about a 1000 years after the fall of Rome start moving at a fast pace. In 200 or 300 year we'll be way ahead of the game.

so you said all that to agree with me....lol

but some want to do better and some don't....I think it leans too far in the wrong direction.

just my opinion

Nah, you're acting like it should happen much more quickly and rapidly, but the psychological traumas are here and still here and we are slowly assimilating with them at a much quicker rate than actually progressing as a unit.

see...this is where people usually get me confused...

I work at high levels with white people. this is...they dumb ass hell.

on the flip side, I am from the hood. slit of people there are smart as fukk.

the difference is one person us not convinced they are smart enough and the other wants you to prove they are not smart enough.

we gotta stop with this conditioning shit.

we do that to each other.

that type thinking comes from aint shit parents. passing aint shit ideas down.

kids pick up on shit an take it to heart.

we have obstacles, yes. but that doesn't mean success is out of reach.

he's a sell out

he's a cornball

he talks white

he acts white

he wanted to live around white people

he wants that white education

ask any black male who is doing the damn thing and I am sure he has heard one of them at some point.

crazy because successful black women dint get the same type heat or need to prove their blackness.

cmon man...I live what your trying to get at.

Do you know how psychological roots take to fix? Most people globally do not defeat inner childhood trauma, it's usually irreversible without high level of psychological treatment, it's your bodies reaction from being wiped out, self preservation which could also lead to a species downfall. Best thing to do is to promote healthy psychological treatment in order to bring people out of their darkness.

i hear what you trying to say....I just don't agree to an extent.

I personally think the wrong thing is pushed to our black kids.

but it's crazy because the not wanting to try can be turned on and off.

hear me out.

niggas will go relentlessly after a phat ass, nudes, taking a niggas chick.

but that same effort is not present when told to step up to better their self.....please dint take this as all black people...just a small example.

but anyway....it is controllable... care to dispute this

@Ajackson17

It is controllable definitely, but you to combat this you'll need to understand psychologists and there are plenty of black psychologists working on this as we speak. Then you'll need your historians, then you'll need your business men as such as yourself and other fields of expertise to combat this and work as a conglomerate. It'll take a lot of thinking and resources and working to completely attack this, but we need something beyond the NCAAP and other black organizations that are specifically for black people.

or have more positive black american males around.

a positive man can make a world of difference in a child's life.

Positive black men and women. You need both, but we have to define what's positive and what's negative as well. That's when we get in what I always say we need to define our culture that is from New York to Los Angeles, everything else is sub-culture, but the main culture needs to be defined what we value as positive and what we value as negative. A black man with a degree, his own house, good job, clean, church goer but could be very misogynistic and against our African roots. In a way he could be very damaging in a lot of other ways as well. We have to think very critically.

THATS the problem wit "black culture" right there..

moreso then "misogynistic and against our African roots."

but yall aint tryin to hear me tho..

They are rooted in the same. But misogyny is a huge problem and just up there with the church. That's discrimination on black women and there are more of them than us. And they are the biggest organizers of police brutality. So that could just be as harmful as the church can be in especially to black men's favor.

I disagree

Misogyny is bullshit

Women have so much power and no clue how to collectively leverage it

Black men ain't misogynistic. Ain't even in our DNA. When we were kings, there were equal Queens who held their own kingdoms

Black men are on the defensive cause we getting it from all angles. There is no us vs. them battle going on but people keep trying to speak it into existence.

Misogyny is some gay shit so you know where it came from. @zzombie

There's no logical way you can observe the world and say mysogony is bullshit.

Nigga your logic ain't mine

Misogyny is to hate women, hold prejudice against

Show me how that's a problem in the black community

We don't hold power to be prejudice. How we the most loving, accepting, open, yet misogynistic

 
Maywood;c-9723104 said:
Look here lil Daddy soon as you mentioned Hov,The comparison you attempted to make w/Jay selling to his own people ,mother ect & Dez fell flat. Matter of fact don't you have similar issues w/your people ?

The point I was gone make is nuance, reading between the lines and not taking what's said a face value. Or agree with a point of view because it sounds nice or because ya mans said it does.
 

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