DarthRozay
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@uolag shut up with your Memphis Bleek lookin ass. Jay gonna let you talk bad about his artist like that? You'll be the next Dehaven or Dame
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soul rattler;4948307 said:Pretty odd how the author conveniantly forgot to mention Big KRIT.
ohhhla;4948335 said:@Usmarine3
You know J. Cole is not nice, right?
Because that was always part of the fun of hip-hop. The genre is unashamedly masculine. It provided young (middle-class) males a gateway to a fascinating world they dared not tread and were grateful they didn't have to. For three and half minutes you could feel the rush of being a notorious gangster, feared and admired in your ghetto, enjoying the spoils of your ill-gotten wealth. Then with the song over you'd return to your tube train, without having to deal with the repercussions of shooting half your neighbourhood to establish a drugs empire.
usmarin3;4948368 said:usmarin3;4948368 said:LOL at fuck sales, tell that shit to all those rapping ass niggas who couldn't make singles to get sales. How many super rapping ass rappers out here who couldn't do what J Cole did, make the conversion from a mixtape rapper to a successful commercial one.
usmarin3;4948368 said:LOL at fuck sales, tell that shit to all those rapping ass niggas who couldn't make singles to get sales. How many super rapping ass rappers out here who couldn't do what J Cole did, make the conversion from a mixtape rapper to a successful commercial one.
genocidecutter;4948390 said:usmarin3;4948368 said:LOL at fuck sales, tell that shit to all those rapping ass niggas who couldn't make singles to get sales. How many super rapping ass rappers out here who couldn't do what J Cole did, make the conversion from a mixtape rapper to a successful commercial one.
Quick question if J.Cole wasn't signed to Roc would you still support him?
DMTxCannabis;4948389 said:usmarin3;4948368 said:usmarin3;4948368 said:LOL at fuck sales, tell that shit to all those rapping ass niggas who couldn't make singles to get sales. How many super rapping ass rappers out here who couldn't do what J Cole did, make the conversion from a mixtape rapper to a successful commercial one.
What's a super rapping ass rapper? that sounds like something Shadyteam would say.
...and I never said Cole didn't have commercial appeal. He toured a lot and built up a personal connection with his fanbase. It seems like he figured that it's about the marathon and not the sprint. Either way, I stand by my statement, sales don't reflect quality as far as I'm concerned.
usmarin3;479755 said:But these rappers all had a good enough understanding of their audience to maintain a balance. The music remained crowd-pleasingly funky, even whilst the lyrics could provide the basis for a thesis. Street kids could bump it in their car (apparently), whilst the detached intelligentsia could hail its 'rawness', 'dexterous wordplay', and 'haunting depictions of a low-income stratosphere trapped in a cycle of poverty'. And this is where much of the new breed (Drake, Kid Cudi, Wale, Kendrick Lamar) fall down. Never mind that modern 'pop rappers' wallow in neurotic self-doubt and desperate yearning for unrequited love, as though they're ghost-written by a particularly self-regarding teenage girl.
I have nothing against softness in rap music, some of my favourite tracks are love songs (see Ghostface Killah's 'Back Like That', LL Cool J's 'Hey Lover'). But hip-hop always needs that edge, both musically and lyrically. In fact, in my opinion any music does. Otherwise it just dissolves into a gooey mess and you sit there, nonplussed, wondering if you prefer broccoli or cauliflower and how long you could slap Bon Iver before he started crying.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/tom-cook/why-j-cole-is-hiphops-las_b_1916812.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
usmarin3;4948344 said:ohhhla;4948335 said:@Usmarine3
You know J. Cole is not nice, right?
Well i'm sure the 625,000 people who bought his album beg to differ