Why J Cole is hiphops last hope (Huffington Post article)

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@uolag shut up with your Memphis Bleek lookin ass. Jay gonna let you talk bad about his artist like that? You'll be the next Dehaven or Dame
 
Fuck sales though. Although I think Cole is dope a lot of the time, that doesn't mean his gold plaque reflect his skills/talent.

Sales never reflect quality.
 
hol up hol up hol up wheres my big sean is the savior thread day day? oh god!

and no offense to my nigga cole but ya nigga sean don's last mixtape went platnum boi dats just like going gold on an album boi!
 
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LOL at fuck sales, tell that shit to all those rapping ass niggas who couldn't make singles to get sales. How many super rapping ass rappers out here who couldn't do what J Cole did, make the conversion from a mixtape rapper to a successful commercial one.
 
Because that was always part of the fun of hip-hop. The genre is unashamedly masculine. It provided young (middle-class) males a gateway to a fascinating world they dared not tread and were grateful they didn't have to. For three and half minutes you could feel the rush of being a notorious gangster, feared and admired in your ghetto, enjoying the spoils of your ill-gotten wealth. Then with the song over you'd return to your tube train, without having to deal with the repercussions of shooting half your neighbourhood to establish a drugs empire.

Whoever wrote this is a lame. People like this dude got shoved in lockers and got no bitches in high school, threw on OB4CL and pretended he was Raekwon to escape his lame ass life. Now cuz times changed he wanna complain, and back J Cole of all people as a savior of hip hop. Mr. Nice Watch. Get the fuck outta here. I'm not a fan of a lot of music now, and J Cole is my dude, but fuck that "save hip hop" shit. You either are a part of it, or you're not. And if you're over the age of 30 and done nothing positive to contribute to it, chances are you're part of the problem.
 
usmarin3;4948368 said:
usmarin3;4948368 said:
LOL at fuck sales, tell that shit to all those rapping ass niggas who couldn't make singles to get sales. How many super rapping ass rappers out here who couldn't do what J Cole did, make the conversion from a mixtape rapper to a successful commercial one.

What's a super rapping ass rapper? that sounds like something Shadyteam would say.

...and I never said Cole didn't have commercial appeal. He toured a lot and built up a personal connection with his fanbase. It seems like he figured that it's about the marathon and not the sprint. Either way, I stand by my statement, sales don't reflect quality as far as I'm concerned.
 
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usmarin3;4948368 said:
LOL at fuck sales, tell that shit to all those rapping ass niggas who couldn't make singles to get sales. How many super rapping ass rappers out here who couldn't do what J Cole did, make the conversion from a mixtape rapper to a successful commercial one.

Quick question if J.Cole wasn't signed to Roc would you still support him?
 
genocidecutter;4948390 said:
usmarin3;4948368 said:
LOL at fuck sales, tell that shit to all those rapping ass niggas who couldn't make singles to get sales. How many super rapping ass rappers out here who couldn't do what J Cole did, make the conversion from a mixtape rapper to a successful commercial one.

Quick question if J.Cole wasn't signed to Roc would you still support him?

Yes, because i still support talent outside of Roc (Lupe, Common, etc).
 
DMTxCannabis;4948389 said:
usmarin3;4948368 said:
usmarin3;4948368 said:
LOL at fuck sales, tell that shit to all those rapping ass niggas who couldn't make singles to get sales. How many super rapping ass rappers out here who couldn't do what J Cole did, make the conversion from a mixtape rapper to a successful commercial one.

What's a super rapping ass rapper? that sounds like something Shadyteam would say.

...and I never said Cole didn't have commercial appeal. He toured a lot and built up a personal connection with his fanbase. It seems like he figured that it's about the marathon and not the sprint. Either way, I stand by my statement, sales don't reflect quality as far as I'm concerned.

See Slaughter House
 
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But these rappers all had a good enough understanding of their audience to maintain a balance. The music remained crowd-pleasingly funky, even whilst the lyrics could provide the basis for a thesis. Street kids could bump it in their car (apparently), whilst the detached intelligentsia could hail its 'rawness', 'dexterous wordplay', and 'haunting depictions of a low-income stratosphere trapped in a cycle of poverty'. And this is where much of the new breed (Drake, Kid Cudi, Wale, Kendrick Lamar) fall down. Never mind that modern 'pop rappers' wallow in neurotic self-doubt and desperate yearning for unrequited love, as though they're ghost-written by a particularly self-regarding teenage girl.

I have nothing against softness in rap music, some of my favourite tracks are love songs (see Ghostface Killah's 'Back Like That', LL Cool J's 'Hey Lover'). But hip-hop always needs that edge, both musically and lyrically. In fact, in my opinion any music does. Otherwise it just dissolves into a gooey mess and you sit there, nonplussed, wondering if you prefer broccoli or cauliflower and how long you could slap Bon Iver before he started crying.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/tom-cook/why-j-cole-is-hiphops-las_b_1916812.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

I know this nigga didn't put Kendrick Lamar's name into this!
 
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fuck outta here b. ever since jay first retired in 03 anybody who could remotely rhyme has been labeled as the last frontier of hip hop. lupe... flopped.... drake...... garbage..... cole.... look above.... kendrick..... we shall see
 
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ohhhla;4948335 said:
@Usmarine3

You know J. Cole is not nice, right?

Well i'm sure the 625,000 people who bought his album beg to differ

Why do you do this to defend your artists with sales?

You have too good enough of an hip hop opinion to like this guy.

 

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