"Things that cause rape"

[a.mann]

Rapes are an outcome of living in a fucked up, sexist society.

Call me when you are actually ready to try to change it instead of doing your usual victim blaming and predictable seminar on women dressed in slutty clothes.

Do you think people will ever stop murdering?

Mind telling me where this is going?

the same place as her IQ.............nowhere

 

[Bussy_Getta]

Rapes are an outcome of living in a fucked up, sexist society.

Call me when you are actually ready to try to change it instead of doing your usual victim blaming and predictable seminar on women dressed in slutty clothes.

Do you think people will ever stop murdering?

Mind telling me where this is going?

Cause I think I know why we arnt seeing eye to eye and I'm trying to figure it out.

 

[blackrain]

*this can potentially be a long post*

I ain't condoning rape by any means and in hate a rapist, and that sick dude who rapes not for the pussy but the power, that dude can never be avoided and deserves death, but some of these party and people I trust rapes can be avoided with some common sense yo. word up.

how? since i am a woman should i not hang out with a trusted male friend or family member alone? should i not drink at parties with my friends?....

get what you are saying... but things aren't that black an white. and the majority of rapes are premeditated...

@desertrain10

I never said any of that. I said drink but moderately. Can a sober woman get raped? of course, but the chances of a drunk woman getting raped are much higher.

Not everything is black and white. At the end of the day, biologically men are stronger then women, and men are also more likely to succumb to temptation of sex. Is this right? no its not but its a fact. So why is it so wrong to protect yourself and exercise caution against something stronger.

If I lived in a place where everyone had a gun except me, and there was no way for me to get a gun, I would invest all my money in a bullet proof vest as soon as I can. Is it unfair that everyone has a gun but me? of course, is it right that I would have to live in an unfair world as so? not at all. but put me in that world and I'm gonna find ways to protect myself against those stronger then me.

Am I saying its the fault of women getting raped? not at all. Am I saying all rapes can be avoided? far from it. I'm just arguing the fact that women think its wrong to try to take protective steps to avoid certain things.

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[Melanin_Enriched]

take these skanly dress female,it's obvious they are just "begging for it"

Hoes be undressing you with their eyes.

 

[Amotekun]

Imma quote myself because this ish right here is deeper than the Mariana.

Marinate on this gospel. instead of spending another 10 pages attacking each other

instead of listening. Black men and women practice another form of self-hatred by

spewing venom at one another.

This thread is silly.

Protect yourselves. At all times. Laws are reactive not preventative. A law never stopped anyone from doing anything, the consequences of breaking that law make a lot of niggas second guess their actions.

Its why before rape was criminalized if a man raped a woman depending on her station he was either forced to marry her, or some other male figure took vengeance.

You can teach men not to rape but thats not the issue. The issue is that people live in societies where either certain things are held sacred and other not so much, or that nothing is sacred and everything is in a state of irreverence.

In America niggas do each other dirty plain and simple because the bonds of a relationship arent held sacred.

Women get raped by those they are close to because that niggas sexual urge holds greater weight to him than the bond of friendship with that woman.

Niggas rape females they don't know because a woman's dignity and body are not held as sacred, the only thing that matters is their appetite.

This is the culture we live in. Nothing is sacred, nothing is honored so until that changes on a fundamental level..protect yourself. It is in your best interests. I tell my sisters that, I tell my female cousins that, and my female friends.

Also ladies, you need to address these females out here that do things and later regret them, and to cover up their shame they pull the rape card. Ignoring that ruins your credibility because you won't acknowledge a grave and proven concern.

This isn't comin from a place of white male privilege, because thats the only privilege here in america. I'm a Black man who knows that the Black woman is the queen of the universe, and gives birth to gods and goddesses. Real is real though, protect yourself in these streets. If a man jumps you, are you gonna stop and ask 'didnt your parents teach you not to rape?" Yall expect that nigga to slow up and be like "aww yea, I forgot about that, my bad."

Nah you not you're gonna use whatever you can to protect yourself in that moment, even if it means killin that nigga. Which is what I taught women in my self defense classes years ago.

Hotep.

 

[God-I_Am_Ether]

 

[desertrain10]

*this can potentially be a long post*

I ain't condoning rape by any means and in hate a rapist, and that sick dude who rapes not for the pussy but the power, that dude can never be avoided and deserves death, but some of these party and people I trust rapes can be avoided with some common sense yo. word up.

how? since i am a woman should i not hang out with a trusted male friend or family member alone? should i not drink at parties with my friends?....

get what you are saying... but things aren't that black an white. and the majority of rapes are premeditated...

@desertrain10

I never said any of that. I said drink but moderately. Can a sober woman get raped? of course, but the chances of a drunk woman getting raped are much higher.

Not everything is black and white. At the end of the day, biologically men are stronger then women, and men are also more likely to succumb to temptation of sex. Is this right? no its not but its a fact. So why is it so wrong to protect yourself and exercise caution against something stronger.

If I lived in a place where everyone had a gun except me, and there was no way for me to get a gun, I would invest all my money in a bullet proof vest as soon as I can. Is it unfair that everyone has a gun but me? of course, is it right that I would have to live in an unfair world as so? not at all. but put me in that world and I'm gonna find ways to protect myself against those stronger then me.

Am I saying its the fault of women getting raped? not at all. Am I saying all rapes can be avoided? far from it. I'm just arguing the fact that women think its wrong to try to take protective steps to avoid certain things.

you totally missed my point. again no one is saying women shouldn't be proactive and take certain precautions. at least i'm not.

in reality most women are raped by friends/family members/neighbors, the rape is more times than not premeditated.... and rapist come in all walks of life some are doctors, lawyers, teachers, janitors, coaches, preachers, priests...

all we are saying is that we as a society/ culture should take a look in the mirror to see what are we doing to contribute to this epidemic, as well as tell women to be aware of their surroundings, etc... get it?

don't get me wrong, people are still going to kill, rape, steal, etc. but we as a community can take preventative measures to make sure that these occurrences are rarities ... like providing more help and support for rape victims because obviously the majority of them don't feel supported hence why so many rapes go unreported

 

[LUClEN]

If there is a known risk associated with certain behaviors, and the victim of said risk knowingly decides to take that risk, why is none of the responsibility put on the fact that they took a risk?

That risk should not exist, and with time hopefully we can eliminate such risks as we improve culture and increase the number of individuals getting post secondary educations. But for now the risk does exist and consequences for taking the risk are a possibility. If you deny that and refuse to prevent those consequences by taking said risks then you hold that blame in your own hands.

 

[DarcSkies]

its times like these u need that damn LOL button.

Mods get your shit together.

 

[Bussy_Getta]

Raping ain't gon stop. Ever.

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

The fear of rape is what keeps a lot of these hoes in check.

 

[MrLunatik1979]

First I'ma say I don't consider a bitch lying or having regrets and screaming rape to actually be rape.

For me rape is when the chick says no and the motherfucker still takes it. And what causes that? Some dude that is fucked in the head and is hungry for the power and control. Some sick fuck that is not man enough to earn it.

"crying rape" is a pro-rape term tbh. I know you don't mean it that way, but just know what you're saying.

fuck that it is. it's an anti-lie about rape term.

bitches that lie about rape, make it harder for the real victims out there. Stats indicate 1 in 10 cases are falsely accused. It is a serious problem and I have had friends really get raped and they are too scared to come forward because they are afraid they will be called a liar.

That's only 10% dude.

On a side note American feminists need to stop making it seem as though they are the most victimized gender.

wait you're telling me 1 in 10 is 10%? Jesus I have been doing simple math wrong all these years.

My point which you clearly missed is that lying 10% casts doubt on the other 90%.

 

[Bussy_Getta]

But anyways rape makes me sad so I'll post this to bring our spirits up

 

[LUClEN]

10% of victims lying should cast 10% doubt. Doubt should be proportionate to the statistics. 10% is not that significant.

 

[desertrain10]

If there is a known risk associated with certain behaviors, and the victim of said risk knowingly decides to take that risk, why is none of the responsibility put on the fact that they took a risk?

That risk should not exist, and with time hopefully we can eliminate such risks as we improve culture and increase the number of individuals getting post secondary educations. But for now the risk does exist and consequences for taking the risk are a possibility. If you deny that and refuse to prevent those consequences by taking said risks then you hold that blame in your own hands.

right, right...

but don't you think that' alil counterproductive at this point, especially considering this line of thinking is the reason why so many rapes go unreported...

 

[jono]

Buuuuuut rape isn't about sex though, its about power & control. Plenty of people with healthy sexual lives still commit rape.

People tend to focus on the sexual act and not the reasoning behind it.

Myth: [u[Rape is sex.[/u]

Fact: Rape is experienced by the victims as an act of violence. It is a life-threatening experience. One out of every eight adult women has been a victim of forcible rape. (National Victim Center and Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center, 1992) While sexual attraction may be influential, power, control and anger are the primary motives. Most rapists have access to a sexual partner. Gratification comes from gaining power and control and discharging anger. This gratification is only temporary, so the rapist seeks another victim.

Myth: Rape is a crime of passion.

Fact: Rape is an act of VIOLENCE, not passion. it is an attempt to hurt and humiliate, using sex as the weapon.

Myth: Rape is an impulsive, uncontrollable act of sexual gratification. Most rape are spontaneous acts of passion where the assailant cannot control him/herself.

FACT Rape is a premeditated act of violence, not a spontaneous act of passion. 71% of rapes are planned in advance. 60% of convicted rapists were married or had regular sexual partners at the time of the assault. Men can control their sexual impulses. The vast majority of rapists are motivated by power, anger, and control, not sexual gratification.

Myth: Women "ask for it" by their dress or actions.

FACT Rapists look for victims they perceive as vulnerable, not women who dress in a particular way. Assuming that women provoke attacks by where they are or the way they dress is victim-blaming. No person, whatever their behaviour, "deserves" to be raped.

Myth: Women incite men to rape.

Fact: Research has found that the vast majority of rapes are planned. Rape is the responsibility of the rapist alone. Women, children and men of every age, physical type and demeanor are raped. Opportunity is the most important factor determining when a given rapist will rape.

http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/myths.html

 

[LUClEN]

I did not know that knowing there is an associated risk contributed to victims refusing to see justice done. Would not really expect that either.

What do we tell potential victims though - that the risk does not exist? It does exist. It should not, and rapists who make it exist are definitely in the wrong, but there is risk solely in being a woman - that's a genetically predetermined risk that can not even be prevented - so why add more potential for bad to happen?

 

[a.mann]

Buuuuuut rape isn't about sex though, its about power & control. Plenty of people with healthy sexual lives still commit rape.

People tend to focus on the sexual act and not the reasoning behind it.

Myth: [u[Rape is sex.[/u]

Fact: Rape is experienced by the victims as an act of violence. It is a life-threatening experience. One out of every eight adult women has been a victim of forcible rape. (National Victim Center and Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center, 1992) While sexual attraction may be influential, power, control and anger are the primary motives. Most rapists have access to a sexual partner. Gratification comes from gaining power and control and discharging anger. This gratification is only temporary, so the rapist seeks another victim.

Myth: Rape is a crime of passion.

Fact: Rape is an act of VIOLENCE, not passion. it is an attempt to hurt and humiliate, using sex as the weapon.

Myth: Rape is an impulsive, uncontrollable act of sexual gratification. Most rape are spontaneous acts of passion where the assailant cannot control him/herself.

FACT Rape is a premeditated act of violence, not a spontaneous act of passion. 71% of rapes are planned in advance. 60% of convicted rapists were married or had regular sexual partners at the time of the assault. Men can control their sexual impulses. The vast majority of rapists are motivated by power, anger, and control, not sexual gratification.

Myth: Women "ask for it" by their dress or actions.

FACT Rapists look for victims they perceive as vulnerable, not women who dress in a particular way. Assuming that women provoke attacks by where they are or the way they dress is victim-blaming. No person, whatever their behaviour, "deserves" to be raped.

Myth: Women incite men to rape.

Fact: Research has found that the vast majority of rapes are planned. Rape is the responsibility of the rapist alone. Women, children and men of every age, physical type and demeanor are raped. Opportunity is the most important factor determining when a given rapist will rape.

http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/myths.html

quite a few here, gone go into Right Wing Conservative mode and ignore these "inconvenient" facts , like Obama didn't start 2 senseless wars.....

 

[loch121]

What about legitimate rape?

 

[7figz]

What about legitimate rape?

Well that's a whole other thread.

The body has ways of working that whole thing out, of course.