"Things that cause rape"

[LUClEN]

Taking precaution in getting hit by a drunk driver:

Never drive again

Taking precaution in being murdered:

Don't be alive in the first place

This taking caution argument yall rape apologists are using is ridiculous and is indeed a way of blaming the victim. What's so hard about placing the blame on the rapist?

It's ridiculous to expect North Americans not to drive in this day in age - transportation is a necessity. A better precaution would be to wear a seat belt and abide by the rules of the road/speed limits to minimize chances of serious injury.

Rapists are obviously to blame - it's been accepted as true by everyone in this thread so your strawman is going nowhere. Regardless, I still advocate not leaving your drink unattended and think you may be a fool if you don't.

 

[5th Letter]

Taking precaution in getting hit by a drunk driver:

Never drive again

Taking precaution in being murdered:

Don't be alive in the first place

This taking caution argument yall rape apologists are using is ridiculous and is indeed a way of blaming the victim. What's so hard about placing the blame on the rapist?

no one with common sense is "blaming the victim"

what i mean by precaution is if you're going to a bar/club etc. make sure you go with friends. dont leave the bar with a strange dude. dont get drunk in front of strangers etc. these are precautions that may lessen the chance of a rape.

lol @ "lessen the chance of rape"

1. Bar/club etc. make sure you go with friends

What if she don't have friends? Should she not go out?

2. Dont leave the bar with a strange dude

So every woman should assume every man she meets is a rapist? Because every dude a woman hasn't known her entire life is essentially a stranger

3. dont get drunk in front of strangers

See above

if she dont have friends go out with co workers/classmates etc. or are you gonna keep making up scenarios as you go along? whats next "what if she doesn't go to school or have a job, she shouldn't go out"

as a woman why would you want to leave the bar with a stranger you know nothing about? if she wants to go leave with a stranger then she is risking her life, afterall she is an adult.

why would you want your judgement clouded by liquor especially around people you dont know? that's like driving drunk, you're not fully focused when under the influence.

 

[blackrain]

I did not know that knowing there is an associated risk contributed to victims refusing to see justice done. Would not really expect that either.

What do we tell potential victims though - that the risk does not exist? It does exist. It should not, and rapists who make it exist are definitely in the wrong, but there is risk solely in being a woman - that's a genetically predetermined risk that can not even be prevented - so why add more potential for bad to happen?

let me put this is simpler terms, mmmkay... yes women should take precautions

but because we live in a culture that blames the victim, for the most part

women often feel guilty/ responsible for the rape ...or feel as though no one will believe them because they were drunk or had a bad reputation...

hence the reason why many of them don't the rape to any authority figure...

"but don't you think that' alil counterproductive at this point, especially considering this line of thinking is the reason why so many rapes go unreported..."

So you agree that the risk should be acknowledged but feel it is counter productive. Obviously not enough to say caution should not be exhibited so then.. what is your proposed course of action?

while i agree w/ women taking certain precautions .... like not walking alone at night. but only up to a point. if women cannot move in the world in the same way men can because of the fear of rape, they are second class citizens...

and really we should be focusing on the root of the problem: why is sexual abuse such a problem? about 10% of college-aged men admit to rape as long as the word rape isn’t used so obviously its a societal problem....

as far as solutions go, how about we ask men to modify their behavior, and emphasize to young men that if a woman is visibly drunk or high don't continue to have sex with her....how about we make the penalties for rape harsher... make sure the legal system doesn't make the victim's name public etc

there's no silver bullet, plenty more we could do though...

Legally yeah they should get more time enforced but like I said in another post, even other criminals don't respect rapists. There's a reason most people in jail for sex crimes are housed in a separate place in many prisons. Personally I say keep them in GP as I gives no fucks about a rapists right to further defend themselves, but some see it counter productive

 

[5th Letter]

Taking precaution in getting hit by a drunk driver:

Never drive again

Taking precaution in being murdered:

Don't be alive in the first place

This taking caution argument yall rape apologists are using is ridiculous and is indeed a way of blaming the victim. What's so hard about placing the blame on the rapist?

It's ridiculous to expect North Americans not to drive in this day in age - transportation is a necessity. A better precaution would be to wear a seat belt and abide by the rules of the road/speed limits to minimize chances of serious injury.

Rapists are obviously to blame - it's been accepted as true by everyone in this thread so your strawman is going nowhere. Regardless, I still advocate not leaving your drink unattended and think you may be a fool if you don't.

the bold is a good one, i used to talk to a chick that told me she got raped because someone slipped something in her drink when she stepped away for a moment.

another precaution right there.

 

[LUClEN]

I did not know that knowing there is an associated risk contributed to victims refusing to see justice done. Would not really expect that either.

What do we tell potential victims though - that the risk does not exist? It does exist. It should not, and rapists who make it exist are definitely in the wrong, but there is risk solely in being a woman - that's a genetically predetermined risk that can not even be prevented - so why add more potential for bad to happen?

let me put this is simpler terms, mmmkay... yes women should take precautions

but because we live in a culture that blames the victim, for the most part

women often feel guilty/ responsible for the rape ...or feel as though no one will believe them because they were drunk or had a bad reputation...

hence the reason why many of them don't the rape to any authority figure...

"but don't you think that' alil counterproductive at this point, especially considering this line of thinking is the reason why so many rapes go unreported..."

So you agree that the risk should be acknowledged but feel it is counter productive. Obviously not enough to say caution should not be exhibited so then.. what is your proposed course of action?

while i agree w/ women taking certain precautions .... like not walking alone at night. but only up to a point. if women cannot move in the world in the same way men can because of the fear of rape, they are second class citizens...

and really we should be focusing on the root of the problem: why is sexual abuse such a problem? about 10% of college-aged men admit to rape as long as the word rape isn’t used so obviously its a societal problem....

as far as solutions go, how about we ask men to modify their behavior, and emphasize to young men that if a woman is visibly drunk or high don't continue to have sex with her....how about we make the penalties for rape harsher... make sure the legal system doesn't make the victim's name public etc

there's no silver bullet, plenty more we could do though...

Men are at risk of being raped too. Women on average can be easier targets due to natural biological differences though. In this sense, they will always be at disadvantage for being victimized violently, and as it would seem, sexually. They are more ideal prey. This too can be combated though with things like pepper spray and the like. Once again, a woman is not in the wrong for not carrying pepper spray and getting mugged, but had she carried some with her she may have been able to prevent it.

 

[Trillaaaaaa]

Taking precaution in getting hit by a drunk driver:

Never drive again

Taking precaution in being murdered:

Don't be alive in the first place

This taking caution argument yall rape apologists are using is ridiculous and is indeed a way of blaming the victim. What's so hard about placing the blame on the rapist?

It's ridiculous to expect North Americans not to drive in this day in age - transportation is a necessity. A better precaution would be to wear a seat belt and abide by the rules of the road/speed limits to minimize chances of serious injury.

Rapists are obviously to blame - it's been accepted as true by everyone in this thread so your strawman is going nowhere. Regardless, I still advocate not leaving your drink unattended and think you may be a fool if you don't.

lol @ strawman argument. The only strawman arguments being employed here are the ones saying there are actually precautions you can take to prevent rape.

When someone is a victim of a crime they don't have prior knowledge as to when or how that crime may occur so fuck a precaution.

Using your logic women are always susceptible to rape unless they are with friends or dressed down. Fuck outta here

Taking precaution in getting hit by a drunk driver:

Never drive again

Taking precaution in being murdered:

Don't be alive in the first place

This taking caution argument yall rape apologists are using is ridiculous and is indeed a way of blaming the victim. What's so hard about placing the blame on the rapist?

no one with common sense is "blaming the victim"

what i mean by precaution is if you're going to a bar/club etc. make sure you go with friends. dont leave the bar with a strange dude. dont get drunk in front of strangers etc. these are precautions that may lessen the chance of a rape.

lol @ "lessen the chance of rape"

1. Bar/club etc. make sure you go with friends

What if she don't have friends? Should she not go out?

2. Dont leave the bar with a strange dude

So every woman should assume every man she meets is a rapist? Because every dude a woman hasn't known her entire life is essentially a stranger

3. dont get drunk in front of strangers

See above

if she dont have friends go out with co workers/classmates etc. or are you gonna keep making up scenarios as you go along? whats next "what if she doesn't go to school or have a job, she shouldn't go out"

as a woman why would you want to leave the bar with a stranger you know nothing about? if she wants to go leave with a stranger then she is risking her life, afterall she is an adult.

why would you want your judgement clouded by liquor especially around people you dont know? that's like driving drunk, you're not fully focused when under the influence.

lol You're the one introducing scenarios though, homie. Don't be a hypocrite

Are you anti one night stands?

Are you anti freedom to get fucked up?

 

[5th Letter]

your argument is that women should go wherever they want and dress how they like without having to worry about being raped.

sadly we live in a world where there are fucked up people in it.

as adults we know the potential dangers out there so you put yourself in a position to avoid these dangers.

sometimes things happen and we get caught slipping.

as humans we should have the right to walk wherever we want and for women to do what they want. But the reality is that that's not the case. as a dude I make sure as often as possible to stay out of situations that could pose as a threat to my livelihood, I've been caught slipping, I got robbed before.

as women you know you aren't as physically strong as a man so you do things to lessen then chance of your life being in danger, it's really that simple.

y'all making it way to complicated.

 

[MD_EGA]

not too many sober women would say

"yess i'll have sex with you and your six friends"

but after a few drinks.... it's all

where the fuck you find that pic lol

 

[Trillaaaaaa]

your argument is that women should go wherever they want and dress how they like without having to worry about being raped...

YES

Is that a problem? That's where I stopped reading btw

 

[LUClEN]

Women are always susceptible to rape. Men too. If you are capable of being raped then you are at risk and should acknowledge it. Zebras are inherently at risk of being eaten by lions in the same way.

Women are more at risk than men due to generally being smaller and having less muscle mass (also recent studies have shown that women do not engage in fitness activities as much as men so fitness could be a contributor). Therefore their behavior should reflect that.

People can not see into the future. But if you know you can be drugged and raped by having someone slip something into your drink when you're not looking why would you leave your drink unattended? If you are to be the victim of a crime you most likely will not see it coming. Understanding how it could potentially occur, recognizing vulnerabilities and threats, and acting in such a way as to minimize them is smart behavior though. Not doing so is careless and/or ignorant.

 

[ocelot]

I figured OP was gonna give out tips

Sad am I

came to say this

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

 

[Trillaaaaaa]

Women are always susceptible to rape. Men too. If you are capable of being raped then you are at risk and should acknowledge it. Zebras are inherently at risk of being eaten by lions in the same way.

Women are more at risk than men due to generally being smaller and having less muscle mass (also recent studies have shown that women do not engage in fitness activities as much as men so fitness could be a contributor). Therefore their behavior should reflect that.

People can not see into the future. But if you know you can be drugged and raped by having someone slip something into your drink when you're not looking why would you leave your drink unattended? If you are to be the victim of a crime you most likely will not see it coming. Understanding how it could potentially occur, recognizing vulnerabilities and threats, and acting in such a way as to minimize them is smart behavior though. Not doing so is careless and/or ignorant.

Nigga shut the fuck up...I'm bout to get high

talkin bout you can do this and that so one of your orifices won't be penetrated forcibly aganst your will lol

Haters gon hate

Potatoes gon potate

Rapists gon rape, my dude

 

[LUClEN]

You likely will not guarantee prevention of rape but you can lessen the chances of it happening. Rape is not unpreventable.

 

[Rozetta5tone]

Yall doing all this back and forth..

Rape is rape.. If the bitch says no, it doesn't matter what she is wearing or the amount of flirting she is doing, the bitch said no..

There is no grey area, it's either consentual or it isn't..

True sum bitches lie but most don't..

 

[7figz]

What's the argument here -

Whether or not a rapist would a choose a sexy bitch over a conservative one ?

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

wow at some of the posts in here. some of y'all really sound like those crazy muslim countries the way you blame the victim.

maybe if women here burka'd up from head to toe a la the taliban, they wouldn't get raped. cuz you know men can't control themselves if the even see some ankle skin, smfh

They could try that but then curiosity will peak. It would be like unraveling the mystery box. You can get anything.

 

[LUClEN]

do you actually consider rape an unpreventable occurance, @Covet ?

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

Rape can easily be prevented by saying yes.

 

[LUClEN]

I am inclined to say you think rape is unpreventable. Support the claim.