The rising counterculture of being an adult without kids.

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i'm one of the Last Mohicans in this shit.

I just turned 30 in March

Married

No Kids

Not that I never want to have kids, but I don't think I'm ready yet. I enjoy my free time way too much to be that reckless and just have a kid whether i'm 18 or 30, its all the same to me.

My wife and I are both on the same page about children so its a beautiful thing.

Every close friend from my childhood to my adult hood all have kids and I can only imagine what goes through there minds about us. Its hard out here for us too tho. We want to make plans with our friends to go out, but they have to get a baby sitter. Or they don't have the money. Its a struggle.
 
Gold_Certificate;5666992 said:
pralims;5666885 said:
icecoldstew;5666869 said:
pralims;5666866 said:
if you dont want kids because you have goals, or are too young or not ready is one thing...

but for people who dont want kids because they are just selfish i never understood.

you are put here to pass grow, progress and pass along your knowledge and love so the next in your lineage can progress further.

too may people want to live it up and party without responsibility.

What? Says who?

human and animal alike are put her to evolve.

animals learn and adapt but they learn from instinct and being taught. the elders teach them to hunt so they can survive and they they their young to hunt to survive. Humans teach our young to survive.

why have all this knowledge and not spread it to someone you raised?

why let someone else benefit, or why not let your bloodline benefit?

Shit, why not have a bloodline?

i know alot of chicks that wished they had kids...now that they are old an lonely or watching someone elses kids visit them on mothers day an shit.

i know alot of dude that wish they were better father...but none that wish they had kids...lol
Fuck outta here bruh.

Not all members of a species reproduce; they weren't "put here" to do anything.

Biology wise he's right we are built to survive and reproduce and most things we do are sub consciously done to reproduce even if we don't know it

We like curvy bodied women because it means good fertility

men buy cars,houses,clothes to get women to have sex and make babies even if that's not what we think we're doing.

Women know they are here to have kids that's why they try to catch niggas up
 
T. Sanford;5675344 said:
Im the youngest of four & the only one that don't have any kids. One of the only amongst my friends who don't have any kids & I seen how they have to adapt to the parent life. One of my home boys be cussing at his kids. Im like "bruh I understand whooping them with a belt but you ain't gotta cuss at a 9 year old".

I have too many goals to accomplish & too many area codes to explore to even be thinking about crafting a sequel.

I remember I use to work this job & mostly everybody was on child support. Niggas use to talk about how many boppers or had bad their boppers was but every pay day child support took 80% of their check. Nowadays it seem like most people use their kids for advertisement "I bought my lil boy them new J's, imma good mom", "My son is Polo down, #ProudMom#", "tru religion on my son everyday #ProudSingleMom#.

I hate when they say "Single life, don't have anyone for my own so I'll go cuddle with my child".

ya man just angry he got kids....thats all

an that cuddle with my child shit....thats crazy. bitches out here making a 9yr old man of the house.
 
kids only slow you down when you allow it.

shit, i still travel the world, opened businesses, working on a charity, and mentor every bluemoon and i have two kids, a wife and living better than 99% of the IC that don't have kids.

oh an plus i still go to clubs and hangout and an eat at not five star but michelin star restaurants.

and out of all that i can still find downtime.

I don't think people have problems with people not wanting kids...its the shallowness of it like another poster said makes it sound stupid.

if you want to hangout and have fun do it...but alot of yall dont want to be left behind. like your life has to stop or someshit.

its not the people with kids thats either or...its the shallow people(not all that dont want kids, just shallow) that dont want kids that make it either or.
 
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s_a_m_r_i_o;5678760 said:
I hate when people say if it wasn't for their kids, they wouldn't know what to do with their lives. Lol. They just admitted they're fuck ups before their child was born. You're supposed to have your life together before a child birth, not after.

some people need a reason to live.

you'd be surprised how many people think like this but wont admit it

 
Noodles McGrowcious;5678376 said:
haute;5678328 said:
also reading this thread makes me realize how shallow some of you are, which makes me wonder why you would even want family at this point?

You really think there's only 2 realities? Family or partying

Good grief

Have you ever heard of purpose?

Chipping in the collection plate on Sundays and telling your nieces and nephews to not stick a fork in an Electrical socket isnt quite a "purpose", but I feel wat youre saying (somewhat)

99% of people on Planet Earth aint gonna be shit in life. There's no reason to believe you're anyone special unless youre put in a situation where u r and its visible that wat u do helps ppl/really changes things. Thinking otherwise is selfish and unhumble and you'll be sure to find out later on in life (whenever that is) that thinking that is foolish and immature.

Im positive some ppl genuinely dont wanna be tied-down somehow. It still doesnt make them "right" even tho I wouldnt be mad at u for doing wat u do. Being a Doctor saving lives everyday is a great thing and definitely fullfilling. But wat does it really mean to have all of that joy and not share it with anybody and passing it along? You'll always have a replacement so its not they you're Special

thats a lot of words just to say

Yes I am that shallow

And I'm not knocking it

If that is your reality for self fulfillment do you

Just understand not everyone has those issues

Many people have lives that include other people

They do work great enough to leave a legacy beyond their off spring or lack there of

But that reality isn't for everyone

Some people need to believe that 99% of people ain't shit, for the sake of their own sanity

And that's ok

But recognize that, that's reality you choose for yourself

Nothing more or less
 
I was walking down the street and came across this monkey. I gave it a banana and it looked at me and wanted more and I was like no bad monkey. Than a gorilla came and told me to leave her baby alone and I was like fuck you and pushed them into traffic and walked home. It was than I noticed they were wearing human clothing and we're just some niggas.
 
pralims;5679033 said:
kids only slow you down when you allow it.

shit, i still travel the world, opened businesses, working on a charity, and mentor every bluemoon and i have two kids, a wife and living better than 99% of the IC that don't have kids.

oh an plus i still go to clubs and hangout and an eat at not five star but michelin star restaurants.

and out of all that i can still find downtime.

I don't think people have problems with people not wanting kids...its the shallowness of it like another poster said makes it sound stupid.

if you want to hangout and have fun do it...but alot of yall dont want to be left behind. like your life has to stop or someshit.

its not the people with kids thats either or...its the shallow people(not all that dont want kids, just shallow) that dont want kids that make it either or.

OK...u convinced me to have kids now

In YO BITCH MOUTH lol
 
Have a family if you want them or don't have kids. We have enough fuckers on this rock and not all your useless genes need to exist.
 
sooooo theres only 2 types of people? politicians, entertainers, surgeons

and then ratchets

real talk

please run, not walk, away from the hood

your vision is skewed

if you think the only thing you have to offer simply multiplying

its just sad like truly heartbreaking

like one poster said its a poor mans mentality
 
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Noodles McGrowcious;5678459 said:
bruh. personally i dont give a shit if the next Individual has a kid or not. But i DO think its silly to think otherwise.

Becuz the REALITY IS, most if u niggaz aint travelin overseas opening charities, u probably dont even donate to tha Salvation Army (thats funny right?). U aint inspiring others, U dont travel the world, the furthest u've probably ever been is to Jamaica or the Bahammas.

I'll be honest. I'd rather have A loyal woman who ages quickly, a bad ass disrespectful seed (or seeds), with us surving off of the SNAP program to make ends meet. Than be 51 with NO family (becuz ur folks WILL grow apart from you, believe that), no mortgage, endless frequent flyer miles with Nowhere to go, and a brand new Dime Piece who's nastier than the last chick.

I know u probably wont understand this now, but always being the "3rd Wheel" is just as bad as being the homie with Genital Warts at a House Party with your homies. Everybody is on 1 page and youre on another page entirely by yourself.

I'm not holding my breath or expecting to be the next Multi-Millionaire/Billionaire so I'm not gonna gas myself up like I cant be touched or sct like I'm the only person with a dream and a hustle.

If you think ultimately family will grow apart why you so intent on telling others they should have one? Like you truly think if one of your kids didn't get married or have kids that their siblings would just be like "Fuck them" and never speak to them? If you think that you passing on a messed up mentality
 
You should be your motivation first then everyone else. You get no extra points for raising a child because that's what you should do but people don't. Me and my girl were established before we meet each other so that'll how it'll remain if we have children.
 
s_a_m_r_i_o;5680584 said:
You should be your motivation first then everyone else. You get no extra points for raising a child because that's what you should do but people don't. Me and my girl were established before we meet each other so that'll how it'll remain if we have children.

DASSSS IT!!!!

You should be especially driven to have purpose when you have kids even more so than those who dont



 
Noodles McGrowcious;5680813 said:
haute;5680347 said:
sooooo theres only 2 types of people? politicians, entertainers, surgeons

and then ratchets

real talk

please run, not walk, away from the hood

your vision is skewed

if you think the only thing you have to offer simply multiplying

its just sad like truly heartbreaking

like one poster said its a poor mans mentality

be more SPECIFIC then, wth r u talking about? becuz youre basically saying that youre content with working at McDonald's as long as u can go out every weekend.

Im not saying this becuz i want u to think im a sweetheart Haute. im saying this becuz im not full of shit

honey that was never said

You need re read if you thought otherwise
 
Ummm just turned 30. No kids. I told my ol' lady (who just turned 27) I aint looking for kids at the moment. She understood.

I really not ready for that responsibility and I wonder if I ever will be...
 
Noodles McGrowcious;5680865 said:
blackrain;5680455 said:
Noodles McGrowcious;5678459 said:
bruh. personally i dont give a shit if the next Individual has a kid or not. But i DO think its silly to think otherwise.

Becuz the REALITY IS, most if u niggaz aint travelin overseas opening charities, u probably dont even donate to tha Salvation Army (thats funny right?). U aint inspiring others, U dont travel the world, the furthest u've probably ever been is to Jamaica or the Bahammas.

I'll be honest. I'd rather have A loyal woman who ages quickly, a bad ass disrespectful seed (or seeds), with us surving off of the SNAP program to make ends meet. Than be 51 with NO family (becuz ur folks WILL grow apart from you, believe that), no mortgage, endless frequent flyer miles with Nowhere to go, and a brand new Dime Piece who's nastier than the last chick.

I know u probably wont understand this now, but always being the "3rd Wheel" is just as bad as being the homie with Genital Warts at a House Party with your homies. Everybody is on 1 page and youre on another page entirely by yourself.

I'm not holding my breath or expecting to be the next Multi-Millionaire/Billionaire so I'm not gonna gas myself up like I cant be touched or sct like I'm the only person with a dream and a hustle.

If you think ultimately family will grow apart why you so intent on telling others they should have one? Like you truly think if one of your kids didn't get married or have kids that their siblings would just be like "Fuck them" and never speak to them? If you think that you passing on a messed up mentality

Thats not wat im saying and i dont even know how u got to that conclusion.

Im sorry but life is too unpredictable for me. So i appreciate a little bit of security and convienence. Coming home to a Golden Retriever isnt my idea of a companion or a void filler

Best real life scenario i can offer yall is my sister. Bitch got a Bachelors in Science or whatever and became a Veternarian like she literally always said she would.

She's such a professional and beast at her job they offered her a Promotion from a Government Facility in the DMV to the LEAD position at a facility in Northern Texas. She ran that entire facility practically all by herself.

Whole time she's been dealing with the same guy off and on for 10-11 years who already had a daighter of his own.

Long story short she ended up quitting her Career (making bank), living with her homegirls and her two dogs and literally going out 3 outta every 4 weekends a month just to settle down with this nigga and open up her own Restaurant (by herself). Now theyre both talking about Marrage and Kids. She'll be 30 this year and he'll be 35

*forgot to mention theyve been doing the long distance thing for a while now. if u consider "On & Off" still being long distance*

I mean, it sounds like to me that "new age Independent woman" shit got old. It looks like to me that being Single at 30 with a house full of chicks, pet animals, and red wine isnt the life.

So if i have a "poor man's view" on things Im definitely not getting these ideas from Poor People.

And if u cant have kids then i apologize to u Haute. Im not about that life wen it comes to making fun of ppl with certain issues

Than be 51 with NO family (becuz ur folks WILL grow apart from you, believe that),

I got that idea because you actually said it. You making alot of assumptions about people's lives w/o knowing shit about them talking about somebody always being a third wheel, or being lonely. There's nothing that says for certain not being married and/or having kids means you're going to grow old and lonely but you are blatantly saying that
 
Noodles McGrowcious;5681592 said:
blackrain;5681495 said:
Noodles McGrowcious;5680865 said:
blackrain;5680455 said:
Noodles McGrowcious;5678459 said:
bruh. personally i dont give a shit if the next Individual has a kid or not. But i DO think its silly to think otherwise.

Becuz the REALITY IS, most if u niggaz aint travelin overseas opening charities, u probably dont even donate to tha Salvation Army (thats funny right?). U aint inspiring others, U dont travel the world, the furthest u've probably ever been is to Jamaica or the Bahammas.

I'll be honest. I'd rather have A loyal woman who ages quickly, a bad ass disrespectful seed (or seeds), with us surving off of the SNAP program to make ends meet. Than be 51 with NO family (becuz ur folks WILL grow apart from you, believe that), no mortgage, endless frequent flyer miles with Nowhere to go, and a brand new Dime Piece who's nastier than the last chick.

I know u probably wont understand this now, but always being the "3rd Wheel" is just as bad as being the homie with Genital Warts at a House Party with your homies. Everybody is on 1 page and youre on another page entirely by yourself.

I'm not holding my breath or expecting to be the next Multi-Millionaire/Billionaire so I'm not gonna gas myself up like I cant be touched or sct like I'm the only person with a dream and a hustle.

If you think ultimately family will grow apart why you so intent on telling others they should have one? Like you truly think if one of your kids didn't get married or have kids that their siblings would just be like "Fuck them" and never speak to them? If you think that you passing on a messed up mentality

Thats not wat im saying and i dont even know how u got to that conclusion.

Im sorry but life is too unpredictable for me. So i appreciate a little bit of security and convienence. Coming home to a Golden Retriever isnt my idea of a companion or a void filler

Best real life scenario i can offer yall is my sister. Bitch got a Bachelors in Science or whatever and became a Veternarian like she literally always said she would.

She's such a professional and beast at her job they offered her a Promotion from a Government Facility in the DMV to the LEAD position at a facility in Northern Texas. She ran that entire facility practically all by herself.

Whole time she's been dealing with the same guy off and on for 10-11 years who already had a daighter of his own.

Long story short she ended up quitting her Career (making bank), living with her homegirls and her two dogs and literally going out 3 outta every 4 weekends a month just to settle down with this nigga and open up her own Restaurant (by herself). Now theyre both talking about Marrage and Kids. She'll be 30 this year and he'll be 35

*forgot to mention theyve been doing the long distance thing for a while now. if u consider "On & Off" still being long distance*

I mean, it sounds like to me that "new age Independent woman" shit got old. It looks like to me that being Single at 30 with a house full of chicks, pet animals, and red wine isnt the life.

So if i have a "poor man's view" on things Im definitely not getting these ideas from Poor People.

And if u cant have kids then i apologize to u Haute. Im not about that life wen it comes to making fun of ppl with certain issues

Than be 51 with NO family (becuz ur folks WILL grow apart from you, believe that),

I got that idea because you actually said it. You making alot of assumptions about people's lives w/o knowing shit about them talking about somebody always being a third wheel, or being lonely. There's nothing that says for certain not being married and/or having kids means you're going to grow old and lonely but you are blatantly saying that

bruh stop being so antagonizing. Noone is going to wanna hang around some old ass 50-something year old couple with no kids of their own UNLESS yall r footing the bill for something (like a Cruise or a BBQ).

Other than that ppl are gonna be too busy living their own lives (with Family) as they see fit becuz you dont exactly benefit them in anyway since you dont really relate to them in anyway.

U c it all of the time i bet. Certain family members have money and everybody in the family calls them "white" but the second they throw an extravaganza everybody is there laughing with them or busting their balls like they werent just talking badly about them behind their backs 30 seconds before they pulled up to the spot.

What reality do u niggaz live in? There aint a dream in the world big enough to sell me to wanna give up the opportunity to create atleast ONE seed (regardless of how me and the mother work out).

Im an optomistic nigga (almost foolish by heart), i like to maintain a positive outlook on things and approach everybody with respect (even tho u can kill that in literally seconds if u come at me the wrong way). And to add to me being an optomistic nigga, my optomistic ass lives in a fact based world. And the divirce rate in America is at or close to 50%.

So with that in mind, like i said. There's not enough (European) materialistic possessions in the world for me to not drop a seed over. Even if it goes bad i can say that i still did it and hopefully if something were to ever go wrong between me and seed(s) (which i pray doesnt), i'll always have time to fix it. Whereas a wife i wont always have that opportunity (whether if its all on Me or Her or both).

Some of u niggaz iz really goin hard for Gay Marrage aint u. First its fuck bitches get money yolo and Single Life forever becuz Niggaz/Bitchez aint shit. Now yall talkin about not ever having kids like its supposed to be the new Enlightened thing to do.

Just admit it, some of yall really dont want anything to do with the opposite sex, theyre just Eye Candy. What u really want is someone with the same private parts u got. Keep it real niggaz, becuz Im not sold on this fool's gold idea of being Single Forever with No Children just partying and chilling with my homies all day.

Why did you write this? No one is talking about marriage. This is about having children, married or not. You said 99% of people ain't gonna be shit in life, so you might as well have children. Now "being someone in life"

is subjective. What are great accomplishments to you might not be shit to someone else. I want children, but don't down others that do not. I have a college friend, a blk female, that told me ten years ago, while we were in undergrad, that she did not want kids. I said "yeah right." Fast forward, she has no children and she is living it up around the world Egypt, Japan, London, just came back from Vietnam. She looks happy to me. Obviously she values her free time and travel. Some people don't value those things. I have a client that is the same age as me, blk guy, who said he would not even think of children or settling down before he hits 10 million in the bank. Now mind you he is a millionare off of real estate ( I know i'm his agent), but probably not too close to 10 mill yet. My point in saying this is that your reality surrounded by "ain't shit" people (ur words) is not everyone else's. Some place value on time, money, travel, variety in partners, or children. Some value all.
 

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