Spinoff: And what would be the problem with itemized child support payments

[MsSouthern]

Not everyone is paying $3k in rent.... that's why I said most. But if the cost of living is that high where you are I'm sure daycare is up there too.

So you think daycare is the only cost in raising a child.....LOL Seriously ???? Did you forget about food, clothes, diapers and a place to sleep ? What about toys and dr appointments? I'm not even talking about extra curricular activities either. And depending on where you live depends on the cost of all of these things... so no way can they set a certain amount and just be done with it.

I don't have these issues with my son's dad... like I said in a previous post... we squashed that a long time ago. You seem so upset about this issue and it really doesn't even have any impact on your life. Strange......

 

[thehonorable]

Sounds like that is covered in the other 400 bucks.

So your kid needs more than 1600 bucks a month? Is that what I am getting from this?

I am not upset about the issue, it just confuses me and I hate being confused.

So what would be the amount you would need to put your son up each month on average. Help me out here then.

 

[MsSouthern]

My son's dad pays $750 per month and provides health and dental insurance for him. I pay any out of pocket expenses ,even though he is supposed to pay half, just because I feel it's only fair since he is responsible enough to provide the insurance. I easily spend just as much rent, bills, food, clothes, sports stuff, extra school stuff.. including lunches, dr visits, etc. I also put one week's worth of support in a bank account for my kid... I've been doing that since he started school.

Child support for one child is 20% of the non custodial parents net pay.... they are given a credit if they pay insurance. If they have more than one then the % goes down a little for each kid. I'm not saying there are parents out there who are abusing the system. But there are more out there doing right than wrong... from what I've seen thru my firm.

 

[powerman 5000]

done......

 

[Fundz O' Plenty]

My son's dad pays $750 per month and provides health and dental insurance for him. I pay any out of pocket expenses ,even though he is supposed to pay half, just because I feel it's only fair since he is responsible enough to provide the insurance. I easily spend just as much rent, bills, food, clothes, sports stuff, extra school stuff.. including lunches, dr visits, etc. I also put one week's worth of support in a bank account for my kid... I've been doing that since he started school.

Child support for one child is 20% of the non custodial parents net pay.... they are given a credit if they pay insurance. If they have more than one then the % goes down a little for each kid. I'm not saying there are parents out there who are abusing the system. But there are more out there doing right than wrong... from what I've seen thru my firm.

I was about to go off, then I read this....

Cool.

 

[thehonorable]

you do realize southern tja the plan I propose is higher than what's legally availible... as it is 28 percent. I don't even know wha theargumwnt is.

 

[mr. 81]

Im all for taking portions of that money and funneling ti into a trust fund.

I woudl also lvoe to see int eh future that moeny being taken out of the parents hands and given right to the child.

when my son turns bout 13 thats what Im gone put on the table. Im gone offer the full payment toi him.

 

[blakfyahking]

I don't see why it would be a problem to just put all the money on a debit card so it can be accounted for

people looking way too deep into it

whether or not the current rates are sufficient enough is not the point

Accountability is the point, because then you take away the incentive for mofos to be irresponsible.............women get way too much leeway on this shit SMH

 

[Wishbone Jones]

take care of ya kids

 

[UPTOWN]

Before court it would simply be the burden of the representation to bring in ( for a monthly budget) what they are spending on teh child wth actual reciepts.

If not then the standard defacto cost of 882.07 per month per child, with deviation based on the non housing spouces income ( If (s)he is making 77k+ a year (30% of the income) )

i.e if the non spoucal parent is making 40k a year, as a defacto standard the payments are 350 a month.

Numbers are referenced from the Dept of Agricultures study on how much it costs to raise a child. Mathamatics from average taxable income.

If if its proven that it is more and less, and actual representation can prove ina court of law that a standard of living is throughly enjoyed by said child based on his current circumstances, then it becomes based on that.

If nto given in 6 months both parties will eb summoned to court and will eb held in contempt if they refuse to come up with the numbers and recipets.

Discuss.

how about we just put the money on a debit card ... and let the non custodial parent have access to the records .... if they have a dispute then so be it .... thats the best way to do it. also .. if you pay $600 a month (for example) and the custodial parent only needed $450 that month then that leaves $150 ..... the non custodial parent should only have to pay $450 the next month ... bringing the monthly balance/budget back up to $600

 

[UPTOWN]

My son's dad pays $750 per month and provides health and dental insurance for him. I pay any out of pocket expenses ,even though he is supposed to pay half, just because I feel it's only fair since he is responsible enough to provide the insurance. I easily spend just as much rent, bills, food, clothes, sports stuff, extra school stuff.. including lunches, dr visits, etc. I also put one week's worth of support in a bank account for my kid... I've been doing that since he started school.

Child support for one child is 20% of the non custodial parents net pay.... they are given a credit if they pay insurance. If they have more than one then the % goes down a little for each kid. I'm not saying there are parents out there who are abusing the system. But there are more out there doing right than wrong... from what I've seen thru my firm.

the bolded is where the custodial parent makes me laugh every time ... im not saying you are out to get dude for his dough ... but why is it that everyone forgets that the non custodial parent has rent and bills too LOL .... rent and bills is no excuse as to why a man should pay child support lol .... the fact is .. the child has expenses ... each parent should pay half and that is it

for the sake of the discussion ....lets take two parents who both make exactly the same amount, both pay the same in rent, both drive the exact same kind of car etc etc etc etc ..... now explain to me with out itemizing why you need 750 a month???

if you do itemize .... and you show that day care is 600 .. his half is 300

his insurance, groceries, yadda yadda yaa ... all equal 750 every month than cool ....

and its great that you put money away for the kid .... but you do realize you're making decisions with your kids dads moeny right?? you dont even need the whole 750 a month ... but instead of reducing the payment to what is needed .. you make the decision to do WHAT YOU WANT TO DO with the money ... now, you are doing a great thing with the money in comparison to these club hopping skeezers out here .. but at the end of the day ... you are still in a sense a control freak for controlling dudes money like that. because if he is putting away money for the kid, and you are taking his extra money and putting it away too how is that fair to him??

 

[thehonorable]

It isnt fair. But no one wants to hear that.

I think most women are fearful that it may stop a windfall they can expect every month, even if they can support.

Because lets flip it...

If a dude was gettin mad money, I would gare-unn-fucking-ee these chicks would be the first saying they don't need to pay, his needs are met.

 

[haute]

It isnt fair. But no one wants to hear that.

I think most women are fearful that it may stop a windfall they can expect every month, even if they can support.

Because lets flip it...

If a dude was gettin mad money, I would gare-unn-fucking-ee these chicks would be the first saying they don't need to pay, his needs are met.

Lmao!

Honestly

If child support was itemized most dudes would end up paying more and still complaining about the system getting over on them

My dumb ass cousin tried this shit, claimed he was paying too much, took his bm to court, after she listed everything she was paying the judge said he wasn't paying enough, some non custodial parents be it male or female sometimps just don't get how much it is to care for a child from day to day, stats show that it takes roughly a quarter of a milli to get a child to age 18, now do the math, 400 every month for 18 years is only a third of that.

And I'm definitely not against accountability some of these hos are straight up outrageous with how they care for their child, and unfortunately the courts do absolutelty nothing about it, and they should

But this idea that having accountability will get backlash from women is funny, if anything it would take some of the financial burden off the custodial parent and give the noncustodial a more realistic view of the cost to care for a child

Let's keep it 100%

This has more to do with a man feeling in control and less to do about accountability, like Ms.S said many states already do what you guys claim it is you want to see, which is put the money on a debit card so purchases can be tracked.

And no one is satisified

 

[lord nemesis]

Stop impregnating bitches your have no long-term plans for

 

[thehonorable]

Lmao!

Honestly

If child support was itemized most dudes would end up paying more and still complaining about the system getting over on them

My dumb ass cousin tried this shit, claimed he was paying too much, took his bm to court, after she listed everything she was paying the judge said he wasn't paying enough, some non custodial parents be it male or female sometimps just don't get how much it is to care for a child from day to day, stats show that it takes roughly a quarter of a milli to get a child to age 18, now do the math, 400 every month for 18 years is only a third of that.

And I'm definitely not against accountability some of these hos are straight up outrageous with how they care for their child, and unfortunately the courts do absolutelty nothing about it, and they should

But this idea that having accountability will get backlash from women is funny, if anything it would take some of the financial burden off the custodial parent and give the noncustodial a more realistic view of the cost to care for a child

Let's keep it 100%

This has more to do with a man feeling in control and less to do about accountability, like Ms.S said many states already do what you guys claim it is you want to see, which is put the money on a debit card so purchases can be tracked.

And no one is satisified

I didn't say it wasn't done. I just said its the most logical way I can see this done.

Plus I figured if you cant afford a child, no matter what the courts tell you they cant make the shit come out of thin air.

How is it in the males control when its going to be done by the judge in a court of law?

Who is assuming the woman gets custody?

I dont see some of the arguments being thrown against this being valid...

 

[MsSouthern]

Lmao!

Honestly

If child support was itemized most dudes would end up paying more and still complaining about the system getting over on them

My dumb ass cousin tried this shit, claimed he was paying too much, took his bm to court, after she listed everything she was paying the judge said he wasn't paying enough, some non custodial parents be it male or female sometimps just don't get how much it is to care for a child from day to day, stats show that it takes roughly a quarter of a milli to get a child to age 18, now do the math, 400 every month for 18 years is only a third of that.

And I'm definitely not against accountability some of these hos are straight up outrageous with how they care for their child, and unfortunately the courts do absolutelty nothing about it, and they should

But this idea that having accountability will get backlash from women is funny, if anything it would take some of the financial burden off the custodial parent and give the noncustodial a more realistic view of the cost to care for a child

Let's keep it 100%

This has more to do with a man feeling in control and less to do about accountability, like Ms.S said many states already do what you guys claim it is you want to see, which is put the money on a debit card so purchases can be tracked.

And no one is satisified

You are sooo right..... it's never going to be considered fair either

But hell life isn't fair.

Folks just need to take care of their kids period. I swear most of the parents who bitch about the system aren't even doing right by their kids to begin with and if they happen to be they just complain and do nothing to change it.......

 

[usmarin3]

I've been saying they need to invent a debit card or something where all the payments are tracked and that shit gets audited at the end of the year. If they can do that for the welfare system they can do it for child support payments.

I thank god every damn day i don't have to deal with child support payments or an annoying ass bitch, my mom better learn to deal with having no grandkids, real fucking talk.

 

[haute]

I didn't say it wasn't done. I just said its the most logical way I can see this done.

Plus I figured if you cant afford a child, no matter what the courts tell you they cant make the shit come out of thin air.

How is it in the males control when its going to be done by the judge in a court of law?

Who is assuming the woman gets custody?

I dont see some of the arguments being thrown against this being valid...

Lol

Notice I said a feeling of control

 

[kevmic]

the only time the shit gets outta control is when people get shit like 10,000 dollars a month in child support just because the person is rich

you know damn well that money isn't going to the child, if anything the bulk of that should be put in a bank for the child when he/she gets older

as far as niggas paying a few hundred dollars a month that aint shit, especially if the child is with the other parent all the time

The dad can always request certain things for child support. In the state of Washington, the man can ask the woman to itemize all money going towards her child in support. Based off all expenses, the judge can rule for the father to pay half of all expenses. You can also request that a portion of their child support be placed in some sort of account where the child is the only person allowed access to it until the age of 18. But that must be worked out in detail with the other parent. Men don't really realize how many options they have in regards to child support. The problem is that the justice system won't promote it, and usually it gets denied based off of the payment history of the one asking for it.

 

[kevmic]

Lmao!

Honestly

If child support was itemized most dudes would end up paying more and still complaining about the system getting over on them

My dumb ass cousin tried this shit, claimed he was paying too much, took his bm to court, after she listed everything she was paying the judge said he wasn't paying enough, some non custodial parents be it male or female sometimps just don't get how much it is to care for a child from day to day, stats show that it takes roughly a quarter of a milli to get a child to age 18, now do the math, 400 every month for 18 years is only a third of that.

And I'm definitely not against accountability some of these hos are straight up outrageous with how they care for their child, and unfortunately the courts do absolutelty nothing about it, and they should

But this idea that having accountability will get backlash from women is funny, if anything it would take some of the financial burden off the custodial parent and give the noncustodial a more realistic view of the cost to care for a child

Let's keep it 100%

This has more to do with a man feeling in control and less to do about accountability, like Ms.S said many states already do what you guys claim it is you want to see, which is put the money on a debit card so purchases can be tracked.

And no one is satisified

Let's keep it 100 like you said. Most women, especially a majority of the women I know to have bd's and child support coming in. Is also being helped by the state as well as their families to take care of that child. They can easily write down all of the cost needed to care for their child from month to month. But how easy is it to leave out the part of what actually came out of their pockets?? It really does go both ways. For everyman who wants to be in control, there is a woman playing the victim and acting like all this money is owed to her because she wasn't smart enough to protect herself from getting pregnant in the first place.