so these burger flippers really think they deserve $15 an hour???

[konceptjones]

You do realize that anything less than $15 is not sufficient to live above the poverty line?

Most people working those jobs aren't kids--they're working class women with children.

I agree with the strike.

No, most people working fast food ARE KIDS. There's been a growing number of adults in fast food since the start of the recession, but it's still a kids job.

Nah, bruh, I learned this in a class--they're working class women.

Companies want people to believe most of them are kids so that people will be opposed to raising it.

have you ever worked a fast food job? I have, several of them in fact. It was rare to have someone over the age of 21 if they weren't management of some sort.

 

[LUClEN]

You do realize that anything less than $15 is not sufficient to live above the poverty line?

Most people working those jobs aren't kids--they're working class women with children.

I agree with the strike.

No, most people working fast food ARE KIDS. There's been a growing number of adults in fast food since the start of the recession, but it's still a kids job.

Nah, bruh, I learned this in a class--they're working class women.

Companies want people to believe most of them are kids so that people will be opposed to raising it.

have you ever worked a fast food job? I have, several of them in fact. It was rare to have someone over the age of 21 if they weren't management of some sort.

Not the case where i'm at.

 

[Purr]

You do realize that anything less than $15 is not sufficient to live above the poverty line?

Most people working those jobs aren't kids--they're working class women with children.

I agree with the strike.

No, most people working fast food ARE KIDS. There's been a growing number of adults in fast food since the start of the recession, but it's still a kids job.

Nah, bruh, I learned this in a class--they're working class women.

Companies want people to believe most of them are kids so that people will be opposed to raising it.

have you ever worked a fast food job? I have, several of them in fact. It was rare to have someone over the age of 21 if they weren't management of some sort.

you need to come to los angeles. there are plently of adults who work in fast food chains because high paying jobs are extremely competitive right now and there are an abundance of low paying jobs.

 

[LUClEN]

It is alleged herehttp://www.theatlantic.com/business...fast-food-workers-to-get-living-wages/265714/ that the median age of a fast food employee is 28

 

[konceptjones]

One of my jobs if fast food. It's sad to see people with kids working there making what I'm making. I think there shoul be a higher minimum wage available for people with kids.

Students can manage with what it is now imo.

Aren't you school tho? Wouldn't it be nice to only have to work ONE job while in school?

I don't have kids to feed. It's unnecessary to pay me that much. I'll be graduated soon enough and have far better opportunities than these GED-less mothers I work next to.

the often referred to Bureau of Labor and Statistics report that says that the median age of current burger flippers is 28 also states that most walk in the doors with "Less than high school" education.

 

[Will Munny]

They don't deserve it.

 

[konceptjones]

It is alleged herehttp://www.theatlantic.com/business...fast-food-workers-to-get-living-wages/265714/ that the median age of a fast food employee is 28

funny thing about it that I've been scouring that report and have yet to find where it's cited.

 

[konceptjones]

You do realize that anything less than $15 is not sufficient to live above the poverty line?

Most people working those jobs aren't kids--they're working class women with children.

I agree with the strike.

No, most people working fast food ARE KIDS. There's been a growing number of adults in fast food since the start of the recession, but it's still a kids job.

Nah, bruh, I learned this in a class--they're working class women.

Companies want people to believe most of them are kids so that people will be opposed to raising it.

have you ever worked a fast food job? I have, several of them in fact. It was rare to have someone over the age of 21 if they weren't management of some sort.

you need to come to los angeles. there are plently of adults who work in fast food chains because high paying jobs are extremely competitive right now and there are an abundance of low paying jobs.

I almost moved to SoCal for the abundance of high paying jobs in my field. If the gig I have now didn't come along, I'd prolly be living somewhere in OC.

 

[Purr]

You do realize that anything less than $15 is not sufficient to live above the poverty line?

Most people working those jobs aren't kids--they're working class women with children.

I agree with the strike.

No, most people working fast food ARE KIDS. There's been a growing number of adults in fast food since the start of the recession, but it's still a kids job.

Nah, bruh, I learned this in a class--they're working class women.

Companies want people to believe most of them are kids so that people will be opposed to raising it.

have you ever worked a fast food job? I have, several of them in fact. It was rare to have someone over the age of 21 if they weren't management of some sort.

you need to come to los angeles. there are plently of adults who work in fast food chains because high paying jobs are extremely competitive right now and there are an abundance of low paying jobs.

I almost moved to SoCal for the abundance of high paying jobs in my field. If the gig I have now didn't come along, I'd prolly be living somewhere in OC.

OC isn't la though.

 

[konceptjones]

You do realize that anything less than $15 is not sufficient to live above the poverty line?

Most people working those jobs aren't kids--they're working class women with children.

I agree with the strike.

No, most people working fast food ARE KIDS. There's been a growing number of adults in fast food since the start of the recession, but it's still a kids job.

Nah, bruh, I learned this in a class--they're working class women.

Companies want people to believe most of them are kids so that people will be opposed to raising it.

have you ever worked a fast food job? I have, several of them in fact. It was rare to have someone over the age of 21 if they weren't management of some sort.

Experience ain't stats, dear.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

 

[BlackAX410]

yea man workin at Mickies ya frustration level be off da richter scale lls $7.25 is way too low to deal wit da shitty attitudes from co-workers nd cookin nd cleanin grills at a rapid pace be erky as shit. management hated me so much they had me workin once a week so my checks were ass on da regular, i was so glad when i quit nd found sumthin betta

 

[cobbland]

http://www.practicalmoneyskills.com/mcdonalds/budgetJournal/budgetJournal.php

McDonald’s Accidentally Reveals That It's Impossible To Survive With a McJob

Posted by Joe Hines on July 17, 2013

Well, that’s embarrassing. McDonald’s sample budget for its employees lays bare the reality of trying to make it on a food service job at $7.72 an hour (mildly above the federal minimum wage of $7.25). That’s the average for a cashier or crew member working 40 hours a week. There are several questionable assumptions built in this budget.

First, they incorrectly assume $20 a month for an independent healthcare plan (without Medicaid eligibility the average is closer to $100), no money for heating, a rent that’s $400 dollars lower than the national average, and no money for food. But the most glaring of all is the unfortunately correct expectation that a fast food worker needs a second job to get by:

Even with all of the company's rosy projections, without that extra $955 dollars the typical McDonald’s crew member would be underwater.

What McDonald’s also leaves out is that corporations paying below a living wage rely on corporate welfare, often in the form of Medicaid, the EITC, and SNAP. McDonald’s likely leaves those numbers out, even though would they make a marginal difference in the monthly budget, because they would also expose the extent to which taxpayers subsidize McDonald’s bottom line. That subsidy comes even as they earn a profit of over five billion a year.

McDonald’s shoddy budgeting matters because McJobs are on the rise. More specifically, jobs in industries with poor pay and benefits constituted the bulk of the jobs recovered since the recession’s end. And they’re not going to stop. Jordan Weissman at the Atlantic notes that “the BLS projects that food services will be among the fastest growing source of jobs for Americans with no more than a high school degree—right behind retail and home health aides.”

And bad jobs have been getting worse. Even as all professions have lost pay since the Great Recession, the pain has been focused most severely on workers least able to afford it. Since the beginning of the recession income declined the most for low and mid-range workers, a recent NELP report shows. Between 2009 and 2012 the lowest quintile of workers, those making $8.78 to $10.60 an hour, lost 3% of their income and the second quintile, those making from $10.61 to $14.21, lost 4.1%. Poorly paying jobs aren't merely on the rise, those jobs have had decreasing pay, doubtlessly exacerbating income inequality.

We need to revise what it means to be in service work. Although McDonalds posits that low pay can be corrected through smart budgeting, they themselves can’t imagine how it’s employees can survive on $7.25 an hour without a second job (and other unrealistic assumptions). In Retail’s Hidden Potential, Policy Analyst Catherine Ruetschlin models how if big retailers boosted low pay to living wages of $12.25 an hour it provide a substantial boost to the economy overall, as well as funnel money back into the company itself. A decent wage would diminish the government's implicit subsidy of low-wage employers, and, most of all, allow workers to maintain a reasonable standard of living.

That needs to happen and McDonald’s just inadvertently underscored why. Only smart policy, and forward-thinking investment in employees, can make McJobs sustainable.
http://www.demos.org/blog/7/17/13/mcdonald’s-accidentally-reveals-its-impossible-survive-mcjob

 

[konceptjones]

yea man workin at Mickies ya frustration level be off da richter scale lls $7.25 is way too low to deal wit da shitty attitudes from co-workers nd cookin nd cleanin grills at a rapid pace be erky as shit. management hated me so much they had me workin once a week so my checks were ass on da regular, i was so glad when i quit nd found sumthin betta

this attitude is exactly what these folks need to have. The fuck you grown and settling on the grill station as your career for?

 

[BlackAX410]

yea man workin at Mickies ya frustration level be off da richter scale lls $7.25 is way too low to deal wit da shitty attitudes from co-workers nd cookin nd cleanin grills at a rapid pace be erky as shit. management hated me so much they had me workin once a week so my checks were ass on da regular, i was so glad when i quit nd found sumthin betta

this attitude is exactly what these folks need to have. The fuck you grown and settling on the grill station as your career for?

tripped me out when people in their 30's were in there i was 19 nd felt like shit was beneath me i felt like i got underpaid lol no way in hell i would eva eat burgers from there after cookin em da whole process is disgusting nd so many co-workers gave no fucks if they were dropped lls

 

[ThaNubianGod]

Again, a job that pays $15/hour will attract higher skilled workers. So you're gonna see White out of work Liberal Arts majors from the burbs working the drive-thru, and all these minority workers will be slowly purged out.

If people can't afford to live in expensive NY.......leave to a cheaper area.

 

[konceptjones]

You do realize that anything less than $15 is not sufficient to live above the poverty line?

Most people working those jobs aren't kids--they're working class women with children.

I agree with the strike.

No, most people working fast food ARE KIDS. There's been a growing number of adults in fast food since the start of the recession, but it's still a kids job.

Nah, bruh, I learned this in a class--they're working class women.

Companies want people to believe most of them are kids so that people will be opposed to raising it.

have you ever worked a fast food job? I have, several of them in fact. It was rare to have someone over the age of 21 if they weren't management of some sort.

you need to come to los angeles. there are plently of adults who work in fast food chains because high paying jobs are extremely competitive right now and there are an abundance of low paying jobs.

I almost moved to SoCal for the abundance of high paying jobs in my field. If the gig I have now didn't come along, I'd prolly be living somewhere in OC.

OC isn't la though.

it's close enough. I got more job hits in the OC and only a few in or around LA (Google LA being one)

 

[konceptjones]

You do realize that anything less than $15 is not sufficient to live above the poverty line?

Most people working those jobs aren't kids--they're working class women with children.

I agree with the strike.

No, most people working fast food ARE KIDS. There's been a growing number of adults in fast food since the start of the recession, but it's still a kids job.

Nah, bruh, I learned this in a class--they're working class women.

Companies want people to believe most of them are kids so that people will be opposed to raising it.

have you ever worked a fast food job? I have, several of them in fact. It was rare to have someone over the age of 21 if they weren't management of some sort.

Experience ain't stats, dear.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

So you can't admit that you're wrong statistically about workers being kids?

K.

Nothing to admit to. Since I know how statistics work, I know how they can be tainted to fit a particular argument.

and, I've already said that this is only the case because we're in a recession, so more older folks are resorting to fast food and expecting the hours and money they used to have. Let those people go back to their "normal" positions and watch the age drop (as it always does).

 

[konceptjones]

I would share secrets about how alot of people are getting paid in the year 2013 legally, but I don't share those type of secrets on this forum because of the high rate of anger and jealousy. I don't floss on the internet, because of the high rate of internet confusion that I've been threw. I let people think Iam broke, I realized I'm the type of person people wish didn't exist, and just the fact of them knowing I got one little silver dime, drives them to insane competition. While others are considered encouraging people, I am considered a TEASER. so I can't reveal the secrets of how to obtain wealth 2 many, because they take me the wrong way as if I'm rubbin it up in their face driving them to jealousy, so I allow people to believe I'm broke and I don't have shit. That way their heads are comfortable..

but it's ways to get rich out here folks ,and yes burger flippers deserve that type of money. The reason I never worked in fast food is because it look like HOT HARD WORK. I always thought they were underpaid.

Real Lady returns...

 

[Rasta.]

I would share secrets about how alot of people are getting paid in the year 2013 legally, but I don't share those type of secrets on this forum because of the high rate of anger and jealousy. I don't floss on the internet, because of the high rate of internet confusion that I've been threw. I let people think Iam broke, I realized I'm the type of person people wish didn't exist, and just the fact of them knowing I got one little silver dime, drives them to insane competition. While others are considered encouraging people, I am considered a TEASER. so I can't reveal the secrets of how to obtain wealth 2 many, because they take me the wrong way as if I'm rubbin it up in their face driving them to jealousy, so I allow people to believe I'm broke and I don't have shit. That way their heads are comfortable..

but it's ways to get rich out here folks ,and yes burger flippers deserve that type of money. The reason I never worked in fast food is because it look like HOT HARD WORK. I always thought they were underpaid.

Dafuq you on about? And no they shouldn't earn $15 an hour for flipping burgers

 

[deadeye]

so basically the price of food will double

The price of food has already damn near doubled where you been?

i meant the price of value meal at the restaurant will double..you think corporations going to allow their cost of labor to double and not make-up for those extra costs some where..they have dividends to pay-out; debt servicing cost; stock values to maintain/improve; etc

Shit's not gonna happen.

Too much of a spillover/domino effect would cross over into other industries.