Lebron calls Phil Jackson racist for calling his entourage "his posse"

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Lebron gets the benefit of the doubt, not Phil.

He's probably tired of being slighted by the greatest coach as he's the greatest player playing today and This was the last straw

Levels.
 
bgoat;9502860 said:
The Lonious Monk;9502836 said:
bgoat;9502831 said:
TheGOAT;9502815 said:
bgoat;9502808 said:
The Lonious Monk;9502803 said:
bgoat;9502801 said:
The Lonious Monk;9502772 said:
bgoat;9502737 said:
The Lonious Monk;9502727 said:
bgoat;9502714 said:
Why people keep bringing up racism? Lebron or Maverick didn't call Phil a racist, clearly said he didn't think it was racist, just disrespectful. I don't blame Lebron, you gonna respect my shit.

Because Lebron brought race into it. He specifically said "I think the only reason he used that word is because its young African Americans trying to make a difference." So he basically saying "I'm not saying Phil is a racist, but he's being racist."

Hit dogs(white media) will holla.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Lebron most certainly did make a racial implication, and the white media is not really whose pushing the racist angle to this story.

Phil's supporters and media personalities have come to Phil's side and said he wasn't racist or they thought the comments weren't racist. When all along the issue was about the disrespect of the comment.

But again, Lebron is the one that claimed the disrespect came from a racial place and Lebron supporters are the ones calling it racist.

But he didn't call him or his comments racist.

He said Phil only called his crew a posse bcuz they were black.

Thats def pulling the race card

He said, "young African Americans".

Had they been older, maybe like MJ, Magic. Maybe they would have gotten the respect.

Then he could have just said young people. He clearly put the African American part in their for a reason. Why are you arguing against something that's indisputable. lol

If a nigga accused you of liking to fuck young men. Would you say "Oh he didn't call me gay and he said young men so only the young part matters."

How about he feels that Phil may respects older established black business men more than he does young black business men.

Tha fuck is wrong with you? Why is this even on your mind? You couldn't think of another example of potential racism?

The only things some of you seem to understand are attacks on your race and your sexuality, so if one is the subject of dispute then that only leaves one other option.

Anyway, you're adding a bunch of supposition into your interpretation of his comments and even when you do that, you still can't deny that he's making it a race issue. If it was just about age and experience then he didn't need to say African Americans. He said that because he believes that them being black is a factor even if it's not the only factor.
 
Damn it if you're going out of your way to defend a white man who was born in 1945, who has a history of saying borderline racist shit in reference to LeBron, you're cooning.

Cut that shit out.
 
Let's be honest. LeBron James is a diva.

If he thinks the word posse is a racist term, it speaks volumes about his tone-deaf elitism.

Images of Patrick Ewing sweating profusely at the free-throw line, & being called "monkey-man" by commentators is racist. Allen Iverson being called a "spider monkey" by commentator Billy Packer, is racist.

The word posse doesn't come close.

After following his massas orders staying silent on Tamir Rice, and campaigning for crooked Hillary; We finally see LeBron for what he truly is........

A spoiled NBA brat, who could give 2 fucks about the black community, an only concerned about his "brand."
 
the term isnt racist..

and who knows if Phil is..

but he did say it in a negative context..

doubt he'd say it bout a white player..

but this whining shit gotta stop..

so what someone is racist.. so what someone THINKS somethin about u.. muthafuckas aint gotta like u..

but u can make them respect u..

not by whining tho!!?
 
While I understand the outrage against his thinking, the anger and outrage against him should be more directed towards the president-elect and his clan.

It's more offensive America elected a racist who is appointing more racists, and they're openly against non-whites, homosexuals, non-Christian religions and want to set up 'law & order', racially profile ppl to be deported and set up, basically, concentration camps.

I don't care if Jackson is or isn't a racist because his actions and words do not speak for our country and doesn't dictate anything, Trump, on the other hand does.

LeBron needs to speak out against their racism.

He's a big voice. If he speaks out, many others will follow.
 
For the 10th fucking time, nobody said the word was racist.

So by arguing that it isn't racist, you're just giving a strawman argument, debating something no one disagreed with in the first place.
 
the dukester;9502893 said:
Let's be honest. LeBron James is a diva.

If he thinks the word posse is a racist term, it speaks volumes about his tone-deaf elitism.

Images of Patrick Ewing sweating profusely at the free-throw line, & being called "monkey-man" by commentators is racist. Allen Iverson being called a "spider monkey" by commentator Billy Packer, is racist.

The word posse doesn't come close.

After following his massas orders staying silent on Tamir Rice, and campaigning for crooked Hillary; We finally see LeBron for what he truly is........

A spoiled NBA brat, who could give 2 fucks about the black community, an only concerned about his "brand."

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LeBron doesn't have to "Black" the way you want him to.
 
soul rattler;9502905 said:
For the 10th fucking time, nobody said the word was racist.

So by arguing that it isn't racist, you're just giving a strawman argument, debating something no one disagreed with in the first place.

Lebron pulled the race card

Idk how u dont see that.

The entire reason this is a controversy is bcuz the race card was pulled.

The whole convo on NBA on TNT was because it was seen as racial.
 
soul rattler;9502905 said:
For the 10th fucking time, nobody said the word was racist.

So by arguing that it isn't racist, you're just giving a strawman argument, debating something no one disagreed with in the first place.

Again, Lebron specifically said that Phil used that particular word because they were young African Americans, so Lebron is the one that made it about race and Lebron is the one that attached the race to that word. There is no point in invoking a logical fallacy if you're not even going to bother acknowledging the facts.
 
Jordan wouldn't have asked Phil if he could spend another night ....... Phil would have been on the plane talking about "Where's Mike?"

Somebody from the back of the plane: "Mike said he'll meet up with us in Dallas"

Flight attendant: "Sir can you take your seat, we've already been cleared for take off"

Phil: "Dammit!"
 
blackrain;9502854 said:
dwade206;9502819 said:
blackrain;9502687 said:
dwade206;9502587 said:
Cops killing kids in Cleveland with impunity...silence

Phil calls him out for having a posse...responds immediately.

Please ignore his fake outrage.

LeBron is doing what many say they want athletes to do and put his money and time up to help black folks and he put up $40 mill to put essentially a generation of kids into college for the sole purpose of staying in Akron to build up the community. Y'all got to realize different people fight the battle in different ways.

That wasn't my point. I was only speaking of his fake outrage. I'm aware he put up the money which is very admirable.

What makes it fake though? Because he's mad somebody took a personal shot once again, remember this ain't the first time Phil Jackson has said this about LeBron and his friends/business partners, and he called him out on it? Because he stepped up and said the truth which is that young black men who are in the business world are looked at as less than by white folks especially old white guys? What exactly is fake about it?

What are you a Lebron apologist? I explained his "fake" outrage in my first post.
 
The Lonious Monk;9502968 said:
soul rattler;9502905 said:
For the 10th fucking time, nobody said the word was racist.

So by arguing that it isn't racist, you're just giving a strawman argument, debating something no one disagreed with in the first place.

Again, Lebron specifically said that Phil used that particular word because they were young African Americans, so Lebron is the one that made it about race and Lebron is the one that attached the race to that word. There is no point in invoking a logical fallacy if you're not even going to bother acknowledging the facts.

@obnoxiouslyfresh and I gave you 4 separate examples of terms that are not inherently racist and you ignored both of us. Acknowledge that first.
 
TheGOAT;9502954 said:
soul rattler;9502905 said:
For the 10th fucking time, nobody said the word was racist.

So by arguing that it isn't racist, you're just giving a strawman argument, debating something no one disagreed with in the first place.

Lebron pulled the race card

Idk how u dont see that.

The entire reason this is a controversy is bcuz the race card was pulled.

The whole convo on NBA on TNT was because it was seen as racial.

Both LeBron and Maverick Carter said specifically that Phil isn't racist.

Yet your takeaway is that they called him a racist.

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soul rattler;9503010 said:
The Lonious Monk;9502968 said:
soul rattler;9502905 said:
For the 10th fucking time, nobody said the word was racist.

So by arguing that it isn't racist, you're just giving a strawman argument, debating something no one disagreed with in the first place.

Again, Lebron specifically said that Phil used that particular word because they were young African Americans, so Lebron is the one that made it about race and Lebron is the one that attached the race to that word. There is no point in invoking a logical fallacy if you're not even going to bother acknowledging the facts.

@obnoxiouslyfresh and I gave you 4 separate examples of terms that are not inherently racist and you ignored both of us. Acknowledge that first.

You gave examples of words that are black slang and inextricably tied to black people. Had he used those words in a condescending manner, you might have a point that he introduced a racial element. As I've already stated more than once, and as others have already proven in this very topic, posse is not a word in that vein. It has no racial connotations at all. I mean for real man, if you can't see the difference between the subtext carried with homeboy and with posse, I don't know what to tell you.
 
the dukester;9502893 said:
Let's be honest. LeBron James is a diva.

If he thinks the word posse is a racist term, it speaks volumes about his tone-deaf elitism.

Images of Patrick Ewing sweating profusely at the free-throw line, & being called "monkey-man" by commentators is racist. Allen Iverson being called a "spider monkey" by commentator Billy Packer, is racist.

The word posse doesn't come close.

After following his massas orders staying silent on Tamir Rice, and campaigning for crooked Hillary; We finally see LeBron for what he truly is........

A spoiled NBA brat, who could give 2 fucks about the black community, an only concerned about his "brand."

He never said the term itself is racist and you're being naive if you read the comments Phil made both time about LeBron friends and don't see it as condescending..this thread is revealing some of y'all just don't like LeBron personally.
 
dwade206;9502979 said:
blackrain;9502854 said:
dwade206;9502819 said:
blackrain;9502687 said:
dwade206;9502587 said:
Cops killing kids in Cleveland with impunity...silence

Phil calls him out for having a posse...responds immediately.

Please ignore his fake outrage.

LeBron is doing what many say they want athletes to do and put his money and time up to help black folks and he put up $40 mill to put essentially a generation of kids into college for the sole purpose of staying in Akron to build up the community. Y'all got to realize different people fight the battle in different ways.

That wasn't my point. I was only speaking of his fake outrage. I'm aware he put up the money which is very admirable.

What makes it fake though? Because he's mad somebody took a personal shot once again, remember this ain't the first time Phil Jackson has said this about LeBron and his friends/business partners, and he called him out on it? Because he stepped up and said the truth which is that young black men who are in the business world are looked at as less than by white folks especially old white guys? What exactly is fake about it?

What are you a Lebron apologist? I explained his "fake" outrage in my first post.

So it's fake because he's not speaking about what you want him to specifically? That makes no sense
 
The Lonious Monk;9503026 said:
soul rattler;9503010 said:
The Lonious Monk;9502968 said:
soul rattler;9502905 said:
For the 10th fucking time, nobody said the word was racist.

So by arguing that it isn't racist, you're just giving a strawman argument, debating something no one disagreed with in the first place.

Again, Lebron specifically said that Phil used that particular word because they were young African Americans, so Lebron is the one that made it about race and Lebron is the one that attached the race to that word. There is no point in invoking a logical fallacy if you're not even going to bother acknowledging the facts.

@obnoxiouslyfresh and I gave you 4 separate examples of terms that are not inherently racist and you ignored both of us. Acknowledge that first.

You gave examples of words that are black slang and inextricably tied to black people. Had he used those words in a condescending manner, you might have a point that he introduced a racial element. As I've already stated more than once, and as others have already proven in this very topic, posse is not a word in that vein. It has no racial connotations at all. I mean for real man, if you can't see the difference between the subtext carried with homeboy and with posse, I don't know what to tell you.

So ape, baby mama, homeboy, and thug are inextricably tied to black people? The fact that you believe that to be true says more about you than it does about LeBron or Phil for that matter.

There's a ton of words that have no inherent racist element until you apply it that way: suspicious, super predator, welfare user, boy, gang, etc. You can say that shit about anyone but when you use it in reference to certain people, invokes a certain idea and you'd be socially deaf to not acknowledge it.
 
BOSSExcellence;9502897 said:
the term isnt racist..

and who knows if Phil is..

but he did say it in a negative context..

doubt he'd say it bout a white player..

but this whining shit gotta stop..

so what someone is racist.. so what someone THINKS somethin about u.. muthafuckas aint gotta like u..

but u can make them respect u..

not by whining tho!!?

Shit the amount of control him and his agency has has been making NBA owners nervous as fuck. I've seen and read a few articles about that over the last few years
 

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