Lebron calls Phil Jackson racist for calling his entourage "his posse"

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

I heard about this on the Breakfast Club and I can't believe it's an issue. Since when has posse ever been used as some kind of racist term? They broke it down and it seems the Lebron's manager and whoever else are the ones that find it disrespectful. They believe they deserve to be referred to as more than a posse since they have actual roles in Lebron's organization. Lebron just threw the race issue in because for some reason that's what a lot of blacks do whenever they feel disrespected by a white person for any reason.

The thing that confuses me though, is people are talking about Phil and saying Phil is racist, but Phil wasn't even speaking from his perspective. He was saying that that was Pat Riley's sentiment. And Riley wasn't even there, so he doesn't know which individuals were there. He just knew LeBron was ignoring team rules and choosing to do his own thing. This is why I hate giving celebrities any kind of importance when it comes to real issues. There are real honest to god acts of racism committed every day that have real effects on people's lives. And this dude wants to invoke the term because a couple people weren't happy with him being a diva.

Phil can kiss my ass with the pity party. Aint nobody even call him a racist. Lebron just told the truth. He wouldn't have used that term to describe a white player and his friends. We can call out white people for saying slick shit EVERY TIME they say some slick shit. Im not with that "lets save all our spades for the REAL issues so they can take us more seriously." Fuck them. Phil was knowingly being dismissive. He referred to them like they washed LeBron's cars and hold his cash in a backpack while shopping or some shit. Phil is a smart, but an intentionally flippant man. They don't just fetch cars and girls for him. They've done well for themselves. And he better put some respeck on their names. Call em out, Bron Bron!

 

[blackrain]

Why was Lebrons mom there?

Phil Jackson was referencing a couple years back when LeBron was still on the Heat and he wanted the team to stay over night in Cleveland so they could have Thanksgiving dinner at his house instead of a hotel....

Also him and Maverick Carter specifically said they weren't calling Phil racist they said it was very dismissive of his business partners to refer to them as just a posse and it was most likely connected to something Phil said years ago in a book he wrote saying that LeBron friends were around simply to "fetch him cars and women"...it was disrespectful as hell

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

He didn't call him a racist. He said that the comment would not have been made, absent of race.... which it wouldn't have. You'd never hear him say "John Stockton and his CREW is holding everybody up."

Id agree with you but we talking about the NBA. There are only a handful players with the power to hold a team up and a whiteboy hasnt been one of them handful of players since teams got private planes and shit. So idk. There is really no precedent to compare too.

Well, posse is not a word a 70 year old white man uses to describe a group of friends. It is how white people think all Black people talk to and refer to one another.

 

[stringer bell]

Cops killing kids in Cleveland with impunity...silence

Phil calls him out for having a posse...responds immediately.

Please ignore his fake outrage.

https://twitter.com/FlypaperCross/status/798629395762024448

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

Lebron has the right to be feel disrespected. If im a grown man making millions and my peoples are making millions, id he pissed to have them brushed aside too. Like yo wtf you mean they just a posse we making millions.

With that said, id be pissed because dude was looking down on me and my friends, not cause it was racist. I honestly dont see how this is racist.

Lebron just wanted to shift the conversation away of him being seen as a selfish dude that'll try to frece the whole team with 15 teammates, coaches, trainers etc... in cleveland just because he wanted too cause he tries hard to build an image of being all about the team.

Lebron played the race card. In a way, its well played. Nobody talking about Lebron wanting special treatment. In another way, its kinda fucked up cause there are legit racist things going on that affect peoples lives in a real way that will be overlooked because of this.

The crazy thing is that this was also a huge mis-characterization of what seemingly occurred. LeBron was not trying to stay in Akron for the hell of it, he wanted to host Thanksgiving dinner for not only his friends, but also his teammates, as opposed to spending it in a hotel. I learned this by watching Stephen A Smith yesterday.

 

[AZTG]

He didn't call him a racist. He said that the comment would not have been made, absent of race.... which it wouldn't have. You'd never hear him say "John Stockton and his CREW is holding everybody up."

Id agree with you but we talking about the NBA. There are only a handful players with the power to hold a team up and a whiteboy hasnt been one of them handful of players since teams got private planes and shit. So idk. There is really no precedent to compare too.

Well, posse is not a word a 70 year old white man uses to describe a group of friends. It is how white people think all Black people talk to and refer to one another.

It might be a NY thing. Posse is a group of friends. Regardless of good/bad. Its interchangeable with crew. Posse is not a word we used often growing up but when it was used it just meant your group of friends, regardless of who was in that group.

I cant sit here and tell yall what to be offended by though. I just dont see Phil Jackson saying it in a racist way. I wouldnt put anything past white men though so I wouldnt be suprised.

 

[blackrain]

Lebron has the right to be feel disrespected. If im a grown man making millions and my peoples are making millions, id he pissed to have them brushed aside too. Like yo wtf you mean they just a posse we making millions.

With that said, id be pissed because dude was looking down on me and my friends, not cause it was racist. I honestly dont see how this is racist.

Lebron just wanted to shift the conversation away of him being seen as a selfish dude that'll try to frece the whole team with 15 teammates, coaches, trainers etc... in cleveland just because he wanted too cause he tries hard to build an image of being all about the team.

Lebron played the race card. In a way, its well played. Nobody talking about Lebron wanting special treatment. In another way, its kinda fucked up cause there are legit racist things going on that affect peoples lives in a real way that will be overlooked because of this.

How selfish of LeBron to want his team to eat Thanksgiving dinner at his house instead of a hotel lobby...what a terrible person

 

[AZTG]

Lebron has the right to be feel disrespected. If im a grown man making millions and my peoples are making millions, id he pissed to have them brushed aside too. Like yo wtf you mean they just a posse we making millions.

With that said, id be pissed because dude was looking down on me and my friends, not cause it was racist. I honestly dont see how this is racist.

Lebron just wanted to shift the conversation away of him being seen as a selfish dude that'll try to frece the whole team with 15 teammates, coaches, trainers etc... in cleveland just because he wanted too cause he tries hard to build an image of being all about the team.

Lebron played the race card. In a way, its well played. Nobody talking about Lebron wanting special treatment. In another way, its kinda fucked up cause there are legit racist things going on that affect peoples lives in a real way that will be overlooked because of this.

How selfish of LeBron to want his team to eat Thanksgiving dinner at his house instead of a hotel lobby...what a terrible person

So its cool for Lebron to force 50 people to miss thanksgiving dinner with their fam just so he can dinner with his fam?

The story thats being told isnt that Lebron told the team yall go ahead, ill meet yall in miami tomorrow. He was trying to force the team to spend the night in cleveland for only him

 

[AZTG]

Lebron has the right to be feel disrespected. If im a grown man making millions and my peoples are making millions, id he pissed to have them brushed aside too. Like yo wtf you mean they just a posse we making millions.

With that said, id be pissed because dude was looking down on me and my friends, not cause it was racist. I honestly dont see how this is racist.

Lebron just wanted to shift the conversation away of him being seen as a selfish dude that'll try to frece the whole team with 15 teammates, coaches, trainers etc... in cleveland just because he wanted too cause he tries hard to build an image of being all about the team.

Lebron played the race card. In a way, its well played. Nobody talking about Lebron wanting special treatment. In another way, its kinda fucked up cause there are legit racist things going on that affect peoples lives in a real way that will be overlooked because of this.

The crazy thing is that this was also a huge mis-characterization of what seemingly occurred. LeBron was not trying to stay in Akron for the hell of it, he wanted to host Thanksgiving dinner for not only his friends, but also his teammates, as opposed to spending it in a hotel. I learned this by watching Stephen A Smith yesterday.

End of the day, i dont know the story. Im just going off the story I was told.

If the team was cool with it, its all good. If the team wanted to go home but lebron tried to force the team to stay, its fucked up.

 

[blackrain]

Lebron has the right to be feel disrespected. If im a grown man making millions and my peoples are making millions, id he pissed to have them brushed aside too. Like yo wtf you mean they just a posse we making millions.

With that said, id be pissed because dude was looking down on me and my friends, not cause it was racist. I honestly dont see how this is racist.

Lebron just wanted to shift the conversation away of him being seen as a selfish dude that'll try to frece the whole team with 15 teammates, coaches, trainers etc... in cleveland just because he wanted too cause he tries hard to build an image of being all about the team.

Lebron played the race card. In a way, its well played. Nobody talking about Lebron wanting special treatment. In another way, its kinda fucked up cause there are legit racist things going on that affect peoples lives in a real way that will be overlooked because of this.

How selfish of LeBron to want his team to eat Thanksgiving dinner at his house instead of a hotel lobby...what a terrible person

So its cool for Lebron to force 50 people to miss thanksgiving dinner with their fam just so he can dinner with his fam?

The story thats being told isnt that Lebron told the team yall go ahead, ill meet yall in miami tomorrow. He was trying to force the team to spend the night in cleveland for only him

They weren't going back to Miami...they had one night off between Thanksgiving and another game. Which means they would've been in a hotel not at home...so no it wasn't only for him. It was for the whole team.

 

[jetlifebih]

I think this is lebrons Tobias from the boondocks skit moment...the "yeah I'm down for the cause " even tho I've been choosing a passive approach those time

 

[blackrain]

He didn't call him a racist. He said that the comment would not have been made, absent of race.... which it wouldn't have. You'd never hear him say "John Stockton and his CREW is holding everybody up."

Id agree with you but we talking about the NBA. There are only a handful players with the power to hold a team up and a whiteboy hasnt been one of them handful of players since teams got private planes and shit. So idk. There is really no precedent to compare too.

Well, posse is not a word a 70 year old white man uses to describe a group of friends. It is how white people think all Black people talk to and refer to one another.

It might be a NY thing. Posse is a group of friends. Regardless of good/bad. Its interchangeable with crew. Posse is not a word we used often growing up but when it was used it just meant your group of friends, regardless of who was in that group.

I cant sit here and tell yall what to be offended by though. I just dont see Phil Jackson saying it in a racist way. I wouldnt put anything past white men though so I wouldnt be suprised.

Read what LeBron and his friend Maverick actually said. They both clearly said they weren't calling him racist but if you take this comment and also Phil's previous comment he made in his book about LeBron friends it was dismissive as hell and that's what they were responding to. The stigma of an athletes friends, especially a black athletes friends, is that they're just leeches. All the shit Johnny Manzeil gets into and his people are his friends...LeBron and his folks put together multi million dollar company and they're his posse? You don't see the difference?

 

[blackrain]

Cops killing kids in Cleveland with impunity...silence

Phil calls him out for having a posse...responds immediately.

Please ignore his fake outrage.

LeBron is doing what many say they want athletes to do and put his money and time up to help black folks and he put up $40 mill to put essentially a generation of kids into college for the sole purpose of staying in Akron to build up the community. Y'all got to realize different people fight the battle in different ways.

 

[i ro ny]

member when shane mcmahon introduced his friends as the Mean Street Posse?

i member.

 

[AZTG]

He didn't call him a racist. He said that the comment would not have been made, absent of race.... which it wouldn't have. You'd never hear him say "John Stockton and his CREW is holding everybody up."

Id agree with you but we talking about the NBA. There are only a handful players with the power to hold a team up and a whiteboy hasnt been one of them handful of players since teams got private planes and shit. So idk. There is really no precedent to compare too.

Well, posse is not a word a 70 year old white man uses to describe a group of friends. It is how white people think all Black people talk to and refer to one another.

It might be a NY thing. Posse is a group of friends. Regardless of good/bad. Its interchangeable with crew. Posse is not a word we used often growing up but when it was used it just meant your group of friends, regardless of who was in that group.

I cant sit here and tell yall what to be offended by though. I just dont see Phil Jackson saying it in a racist way. I wouldnt put anything past white men though so I wouldnt be suprised.

Read what LeBron and his friend Maverick actually said. They both clearly said they weren't calling him racist but if you take this comment and also Phil's previous comment he made in his book about LeBron friends it was dismissive as hell and that's what they were responding to. The stigma of an athletes friends, especially a black athletes friends, is that they're just leeches. All the shit Johnny Manzeil gets into and his people are his friends...LeBron and his folks put together multi million dollar company and they're his posse? You don't see the difference?

Bruh I feel you. Everything I heard around this story is people calling phil jackson racist. Everything has been 'is phil jackson a racist'?

To me, the answer to that question is nah i dont think Phil is a racist or meant anything racial. Now would I be suprised if he was? Nah i wouldnt.

Now, if you are saying that Phil didnt mean to be racist but due to systematic racism people associate black men with negative stereotypes and phil didnt mean to it but he associated a group of black men to a negative stereotype subconsciously, Ill agree with you.

 

[soul rattler]

Posse isn't a racist term. Bron being sensitive

pos·se

ˈpäsē/

noun

US historical

a body of men, typically armed, summoned by a sheriff to enforce the law.

BRITISH historical

the body of men in a county whom the sheriff could summon to enforce the law.

noun: posse comitatus; plural noun: posse comitatus

informal

a group of people who have a common characteristic, occupation, or purpose.

"he pompously led around a posse of medical students"

It's not the word, it's the implication.

Remember when Obama first ran for president in 08 and they called Michelle his "baby mama" and Jeremiah Wright his "homeboy"?

Baby mama and homeboy aren't inherently racist terms but the application in those instances implies an undertone of racist sentiment.

 

[blackrain]

He didn't call him a racist. He said that the comment would not have been made, absent of race.... which it wouldn't have. You'd never hear him say "John Stockton and his CREW is holding everybody up."

Id agree with you but we talking about the NBA. There are only a handful players with the power to hold a team up and a whiteboy hasnt been one of them handful of players since teams got private planes and shit. So idk. There is really no precedent to compare too.

Well, posse is not a word a 70 year old white man uses to describe a group of friends. It is how white people think all Black people talk to and refer to one another.

It might be a NY thing. Posse is a group of friends. Regardless of good/bad. Its interchangeable with crew. Posse is not a word we used often growing up but when it was used it just meant your group of friends, regardless of who was in that group.

I cant sit here and tell yall what to be offended by though. I just dont see Phil Jackson saying it in a racist way. I wouldnt put anything past white men though so I wouldnt be suprised.

Read what LeBron and his friend Maverick actually said. They both clearly said they weren't calling him racist but if you take this comment and also Phil's previous comment he made in his book about LeBron friends it was dismissive as hell and that's what they were responding to. The stigma of an athletes friends, especially a black athletes friends, is that they're just leeches. All the shit Johnny Manzeil gets into and his people are his friends...LeBron and his folks put together multi million dollar company and they're his posse? You don't see the difference?

Bruh I feel you. Everything I heard around this story is people calling phil jackson racist. Everything has been 'is phil jackson a racist'?

To me, the answer to that question is nah i dont think Phil is a racist or meant anything racial. Now would I be suprised if he was? Nah i wouldnt.

Now, if you are saying that Phil didnt mean to be racist but due to systematic racism people associate black men with negative stereotypes and phil didnt mean to it but he associated a group of black men to a negative stereotype subconsciously, Ill agree with you.

But if LeBron himself said he's not calling him racist why assign that to him? That's other people doing click bait titles. People need to focus on what he actually said not what a headline says.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I heard about this on the Breakfast Club and I can't believe it's an issue. Since when has posse ever been used as some kind of racist term? They broke it down and it seems the Lebron's manager and whoever else are the ones that find it disrespectful. They believe they deserve to be referred to as more than a posse since they have actual roles in Lebron's organization. Lebron just threw the race issue in because for some reason that's what a lot of blacks do whenever they feel disrespected by a white person for any reason.

The thing that confuses me though, is people are talking about Phil and saying Phil is racist, but Phil wasn't even speaking from his perspective. He was saying that that was Pat Riley's sentiment. And Riley wasn't even there, so he doesn't know which individuals were there. He just knew LeBron was ignoring team rules and choosing to do his own thing. This is why I hate giving celebrities any kind of importance when it comes to real issues. There are real honest to god acts of racism committed every day that have real effects on people's lives. And this dude wants to invoke the term because a couple people weren't happy with him being a diva.

Phil can kiss my ass with the pity party. Aint nobody even call him a racist. Lebron just told the truth. He wouldn't have used that term to describe a white player and his friends. We can call out white people for saying slick shit EVERY TIME they say some slick shit. Im not with that "lets save all our spades for the REAL issues so they can take us more seriously." Fuck them. Phil was knowingly being dismissive. He referred to them like they washed LeBron's cars and hold his cash in a backpack while shopping or some shit. Phil is a smart, but an intentionally flippant man. They don't just fetch cars and girls for him. They've done well for themselves. And he better put some respeck on their names. Call em out, Bron Bron!

No Lebron didn't call Phil a racist. In fact, I think he specifically pointed out he wasn't calling him a racist. Others have taken it and run with it though. However, he did inject race into this by saying Phil's comments were being used to down a group of successful black men.

That's the problem I have because he's taking what could be some personal beef and making it a community beef. Him and Phil have been taking jabs at each other for some time now. If Phil said what he said, to be condescending towards Lebron and his people because of their personal history, that's some different shit than him saying it to down some black men which is what Lebron is implying.

And again, I point out that Phil isn't even speaking from his own viewpoint if I read things right. He's speaking from Pat Riley's viewpoint. So the only way race really comes into this is if you believe posse is some kind of perjorative for a group of black males, and as far as I know, that's never been a thing.

 

[AZTG]

Also, aint no one saying Bron is a bad dude. Bron is top 5, arguably top 3 player of all time that is still adding to his legacy and has a legit chance to be in the conversation of being the greatest of all time. Almost everyone will give it to Jordan and rightfully so, but Lebron could have a legit argument to be the best ever if he keeps playing at a high level. Just being able to be in the argument is a accomplishment nobody would have thought was possible 10 years ago. He is that good.

Off the court? He has proven to be a good dude that puts his money where his mouth is.

Also off the court? He has proven to be egotiscal and sensitive as fuck. In this case I think he was being a bit sensitive.

Overall he a GOAT NBA player and a good dude off the court.

 

[blackrain]

I think this is lebrons Tobias from the boondocks skit moment...the "yeah I'm down for the cause " even tho I've been choosing a passive approach those time

Sometimes it's really hard to tell if some of y'all want actual action or just symbolic grand gesture that don't actually lead to shit