Is hip-hop bad for black America?

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Any black male or female who understands the science and elements of hip hop knows that what the article mentioned isn't hip hop.

They also know dope mcs who weren't even mentioned in that article who spit about having the right mentals, what traps to look for and how not to fall victim to a sheep filled society with idiotic ideas on what it takes to be a man or woman.

In fact, its the other way around. Since the involvement of corny non black rappers, RAP shit has gotten worse.
 
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;5782576 said:
1.) Mainstream rap perpetuates the stereotypes a lot of other races have about us. Even without rap, we'd still be vilified nonetheless.

2.) Rap is dangerous when people take it literal. Which is what I see way too many of my peers doing. In a sense it has become a determining factor in how many individuals live their lives.

Overall, rap hasn't really been beneficial to blacks in America. It has provided an outlet for young black people to rise out of their environment and focus their attention on something less destructive. However how beneficial is this as a whole if they're simply perpetuating negativity among their own people. Rap could be a lot more beneficial if is was widely used as a means to educate and wake people up. And I don't mean the occasional "conscious" song we get from time to time.

Hip/hop or rap started out as a product of the environment but now it's starting to shape environments...and not for the good.

@Ioniz3dSPIRITZ I have to disagree with you brother.....

hip-hop have been beneficial to blacks in America in ways not shown and this is coming from a late/mid 70's baby from my era about hip-hop..... hip-hop brought knowledge of self back to the youth, hip-hop taught the youth and resurrected our past hero's...

we didn't learn shit in school about our history or culture, hip-hop with the likes of gangstarr with words I manifesthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9qwU0FYc8g when he was Malcolm X, hip-hop brought Malcolm x to life again and we was interested in the brother and from that we had X the movie.

Jungle Brothers was giving lessons about our eating habits and taught us about eating healthy and drinking water

88-94 was hip-hop's most revolutionary times, we started our own business, we was preaching education, check the stats we was going to college in big numbers brought back HBCU.

THAT OLD KRS-1 video with BLACK MOSES that shit blew my mind, when I was younger I didn't even know Hebrews were black or this song talking about the color of those in the bible by using the bible

NWA was our voice in the hood tackling racism, police brutality, bad schools ect.....

I remember in the mid 90's around 94 there was something that caught the attention of government, there was a poll taking on the black youth teenagers and young adults and they found out and it was a shocker because I remember it was in the newspaper and on news, that BLACK MAN WITH BLACK WOMEN was an all time high,

and I remember as a teenager reading it that it made me feel that my generation, the hip-hop generation aka Generation X is changing things, and It was because of hip-hop...

I was planning making a thread about 88-94 hip-hop revolutionary time in the social lounge....but hip-hop have been beneficial to blacks, it raised a lot of politicians, teachers, business owners ect.......
 
waterproof;5782929 said:
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;5782576 said:
1.) Mainstream rap perpetuates the stereotypes a lot of other races have about us. Even without rap, we'd still be vilified nonetheless.

2.) Rap is dangerous when people take it literal. Which is what I see way too many of my peers doing. In a sense it has become a determining factor in how many individuals live their lives.

Overall, rap hasn't really been beneficial to blacks in America. It has provided an outlet for young black people to rise out of their environment and focus their attention on something less destructive. However how beneficial is this as a whole if they're simply perpetuating negativity among their own people. Rap could be a lot more beneficial if is was widely used as a means to educate and wake people up. And I don't mean the occasional "conscious" song we get from time to time.

Hip/hop or rap started out as a product of the environment but now it's starting to shape environments...and not for the good.

@Ioniz3dSPIRITZ I have to disagree with you brother.....

hip-hop have been beneficial to blacks in America in ways not shown and this is coming from a late/mid 70's baby from my era about hip-hop..... hip-hop brought knowledge of self back to the youth, hip-hop taught the youth and resurrected our past hero's...

we didn't learn shit in school about our history or culture, hip-hop with the likes of gangstarr with words I manifesthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9qwU0FYc8g when he was Malcolm X, hip-hop brought Malcolm x to life again and we was interested in the brother and from that we had X the movie.

Jungle Brothers was giving lessons about our eating habits and taught us about eating healthy and drinking water

88-94 was hip-hop's most revolutionary times, we started our own business, we was preaching education, check the stats we was going to college in big numbers brought back HBCU.

THAT OLD KRS-1 video with BLACK MOSES that shit blew my mind, when I was younger I didn't even know Hebrews were black or this song talking about the color of those in the bible by using the bible

NWA was our voice in the hood tackling racism, police brutality, bad schools ect.....

I remember in the mid 90's around 94 there was something that caught the attention of government, there was a poll taking on the black youth teenagers and young adults and they found out and it was a shocker because I remember it was in the newspaper and on news, that BLACK MAN WITH BLACK WOMEN was an all time high,

and I remember as a teenager reading it that it made me feel that my generation, the hip-hop generation aka Generation X is changing things, and It was because of hip-hop...

I was planning making a thread about 88-94 hip-hop revolutionary time in the social lounge....but hip-hop have been beneficial to blacks, it raised a lot of politicians, teachers, business owners ect.......


I agree that 88 to 94 or so was hip hop's best period all around, but how you going talk about the benefits and not the costs? And I don't just mean 88-94.

 
folk dont like saying it but rap music plays a huge part in a lot of the negatives of society..... this along with kid to have access to it at a younger age and its not having no filter. this combined with worse parenting and kids taking every lyric literally.... back in the day we listened to rap as a story being told about what was going on....today the youths are emulating the ignorance thats glorified.
 
Undefeatable;5782939 said:
waterproof;5782929 said:
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;5782576 said:
1.) Mainstream rap perpetuates the stereotypes a lot of other races have about us. Even without rap, we'd still be vilified nonetheless.

2.) Rap is dangerous when people take it literal. Which is what I see way too many of my peers doing. In a sense it has become a determining factor in how many individuals live their lives.

Overall, rap hasn't really been beneficial to blacks in America. It has provided an outlet for young black people to rise out of their environment and focus their attention on something less destructive. However how beneficial is this as a whole if they're simply perpetuating negativity among their own people. Rap could be a lot more beneficial if is was widely used as a means to educate and wake people up. And I don't mean the occasional "conscious" song we get from time to time.

Hip/hop or rap started out as a product of the environment but now it's starting to shape environments...and not for the good.

@Ioniz3dSPIRITZ I have to disagree with you brother.....

hip-hop have been beneficial to blacks in America in ways not shown and this is coming from a late/mid 70's baby from my era about hip-hop..... hip-hop brought knowledge of self back to the youth, hip-hop taught the youth and resurrected our past hero's...

we didn't learn shit in school about our history or culture, hip-hop with the likes of gangstarr with words I manifesthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9qwU0FYc8g when he was Malcolm X, hip-hop brought Malcolm x to life again and we was interested in the brother and from that we had X the movie.

Jungle Brothers was giving lessons about our eating habits and taught us about eating healthy and drinking water

88-94 was hip-hop's most revolutionary times, we started our own business, we was preaching education, check the stats we was going to college in big numbers brought back HBCU.

THAT OLD KRS-1 video with BLACK MOSES that shit blew my mind, when I was younger I didn't even know Hebrews were black or this song talking about the color of those in the bible by using the bible

NWA was our voice in the hood tackling racism, police brutality, bad schools ect.....

I remember in the mid 90's around 94 there was something that caught the attention of government, there was a poll taking on the black youth teenagers and young adults and they found out and it was a shocker because I remember it was in the newspaper and on news, that BLACK MAN WITH BLACK WOMEN was an all time high,

and I remember as a teenager reading it that it made me feel that my generation, the hip-hop generation aka Generation X is changing things, and It was because of hip-hop...

I was planning making a thread about 88-94 hip-hop revolutionary time in the social lounge....but hip-hop have been beneficial to blacks, it raised a lot of politicians, teachers, business owners ect.......


I agree that 88 to 94 or so was hip hop's best period all around, but how you going talk about the benefits and not the costs? And I don't just mean 88-94.


the cost is we have nobody to blame but us if that's where you getting it, I need you to explain a little more so I can give my best opinion if you don't mind
 
waterproof;5782946 said:
Undefeatable;5782939 said:
waterproof;5782929 said:
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;5782576 said:
1.) Mainstream rap perpetuates the stereotypes a lot of other races have about us. Even without rap, we'd still be vilified nonetheless.

2.) Rap is dangerous when people take it literal. Which is what I see way too many of my peers doing. In a sense it has become a determining factor in how many individuals live their lives.

Overall, rap hasn't really been beneficial to blacks in America. It has provided an outlet for young black people to rise out of their environment and focus their attention on something less destructive. However how beneficial is this as a whole if they're simply perpetuating negativity among their own people. Rap could be a lot more beneficial if is was widely used as a means to educate and wake people up. And I don't mean the occasional "conscious" song we get from time to time.

Hip/hop or rap started out as a product of the environment but now it's starting to shape environments...and not for the good.

@Ioniz3dSPIRITZ I have to disagree with you brother.....

hip-hop have been beneficial to blacks in America in ways not shown and this is coming from a late/mid 70's baby from my era about hip-hop..... hip-hop brought knowledge of self back to the youth, hip-hop taught the youth and resurrected our past hero's...

we didn't learn shit in school about our history or culture, hip-hop with the likes of gangstarr with words I manifesthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9qwU0FYc8g when he was Malcolm X, hip-hop brought Malcolm x to life again and we was interested in the brother and from that we had X the movie.

Jungle Brothers was giving lessons about our eating habits and taught us about eating healthy and drinking water

88-94 was hip-hop's most revolutionary times, we started our own business, we was preaching education, check the stats we was going to college in big numbers brought back HBCU.

THAT OLD KRS-1 video with BLACK MOSES that shit blew my mind, when I was younger I didn't even know Hebrews were black or this song talking about the color of those in the bible by using the bible

NWA was our voice in the hood tackling racism, police brutality, bad schools ect.....

I remember in the mid 90's around 94 there was something that caught the attention of government, there was a poll taking on the black youth teenagers and young adults and they found out and it was a shocker because I remember it was in the newspaper and on news, that BLACK MAN WITH BLACK WOMEN was an all time high,

and I remember as a teenager reading it that it made me feel that my generation, the hip-hop generation aka Generation X is changing things, and It was because of hip-hop...

I was planning making a thread about 88-94 hip-hop revolutionary time in the social lounge....but hip-hop have been beneficial to blacks, it raised a lot of politicians, teachers, business owners ect.......


I agree that 88 to 94 or so was hip hop's best period all around, but how you going talk about the benefits and not the costs? And I don't just mean 88-94.


the cost is we have nobody to blame but us if that's where you getting it, I need you to explain a little more so I can give my best opinion if you don't mind


I mean the costs like what Ioniz3dSPIRITZ and others have talked about.
 
Undefeatable;5782939 said:
waterproof;5782929 said:
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;5782576 said:
1.) Mainstream rap perpetuates the stereotypes a lot of other races have about us. Even without rap, we'd still be vilified nonetheless.

2.) Rap is dangerous when people take it literal. Which is what I see way too many of my peers doing. In a sense it has become a determining factor in how many individuals live their lives.

Overall, rap hasn't really been beneficial to blacks in America. It has provided an outlet for young black people to rise out of their environment and focus their attention on something less destructive. However how beneficial is this as a whole if they're simply perpetuating negativity among their own people. Rap could be a lot more beneficial if is was widely used as a means to educate and wake people up. And I don't mean the occasional "conscious" song we get from time to time.

Hip/hop or rap started out as a product of the environment but now it's starting to shape environments...and not for the good.

@Ioniz3dSPIRITZ I have to disagree with you brother.....

hip-hop have been beneficial to blacks in America in ways not shown and this is coming from a late/mid 70's baby from my era about hip-hop..... hip-hop brought knowledge of self back to the youth, hip-hop taught the youth and resurrected our past hero's...

we didn't learn shit in school about our history or culture, hip-hop with the likes of gangstarr with words I manifesthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9qwU0FYc8g when he was Malcolm X, hip-hop brought Malcolm x to life again and we was interested in the brother and from that we had X the movie.

Jungle Brothers was giving lessons about our eating habits and taught us about eating healthy and drinking water

88-94 was hip-hop's most revolutionary times, we started our own business, we was preaching education, check the stats we was going to college in big numbers brought back HBCU.

THAT OLD KRS-1 video with BLACK MOSES that shit blew my mind, when I was younger I didn't even know Hebrews were black or this song talking about the color of those in the bible by using the bible

NWA was our voice in the hood tackling racism, police brutality, bad schools ect.....

I remember in the mid 90's around 94 there was something that caught the attention of government, there was a poll taking on the black youth teenagers and young adults and they found out and it was a shocker because I remember it was in the newspaper and on news, that BLACK MAN WITH BLACK WOMEN was an all time high,

and I remember as a teenager reading it that it made me feel that my generation, the hip-hop generation aka Generation X is changing things, and It was because of hip-hop...

I was planning making a thread about 88-94 hip-hop revolutionary time in the social lounge....but hip-hop have been beneficial to blacks, it raised a lot of politicians, teachers, business owners ect.......


I agree that 88 to 94 or so was hip hop's best period all around, but how you going talk about the benefits and not the costs? And I don't just mean 88-94.


The golden era of hip hop was so short lived. Yes, it brought back consciousness to a certain extent but look at what it has morphed into today. The damaging effects it has on our youth today for outweigh any of the positives that may have sprouted from it in the past. It's sad because hip hop at it's peak was a great vehicle for the youth to voice their frustrations and educate the people.
 
manofmorehouse;5781392 said:
It's absolutely detrimental to African Americans. You see the results that hip hop has had on a generation. There is no more drive. Education has taken a backseat to niggas thinking they're the next dope rapper. Expectations have been lowered and every stereotype that can be attributed to the Black community can be attributed to hip hop - even though a majority of the rappers personas were created by White execs. Essentially, we have had our culture dictated to us by White America then asked to assimilate to their culture. They've just used Ross and Wayne to sell it to us

CopperKing;5781487 said:
its bad when kids start acting like its a way of life and arent raised to realize that its entertainment not real life...

its bad when kids idolize rappers and act like rap is the end all be all

its bad when women/young girls arent aware of the negative lyrics or arent bothered by the messages/lyrics

its bad when rappers act like bafoons and spit useless irresponsible lyrics (see lil waynes emmit till lyric)

its bad when the public dont hold certain rappers responsible for those irresponsible lyrics

=D>
 
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Lets be real, are you niggaz insinuating that y'all didn't idolize the gangsta? That you don't recite words of a rapper who talked about what they do with a bitch ass nigga? Y'all lying.

Its alot that goes into this so called problem. But its apparent that we don't understand it fully if we thinking rap is the same thing as hip hop.

What the real problem is not rap or hip hop. Those are only mediums that reflect us. So the problem still deals with the mindset of black folks, of all ages.

Rap/hiphop goes all the way back to our ancestors. This is supposed to be ours. How you let a dumb ass article give you the dog and pony show without properly assessing and digesting what is being said.

If the genre was gone tomorrow, ask yourselves really how in the hell would that help the black community when the mindset still lingers?

Know a bullshit, dummy trap article when you see one kid

 
Everything hip-hop talks about existed before hip-hop did. The audacity of niggas blaming music for reflecting society.
 
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ;5782576 said:
1.) Mainstream rap perpetuates the stereotypes a lot of other races have about us. Even without rap, we'd still be vilified nonetheless.

2.) Rap is dangerous when people take it literal. Which is what I see way too many of my peers doing. In a sense it has become a determining factor in how many individuals live their lives.

Overall, rap hasn't really been beneficial to blacks in America. It has provided an outlet for young black people to rise out of their environment and focus their attention on something less destructive. However how beneficial is this as a whole if they're simply perpetuating negativity among their own people. Rap could be a lot more beneficial if is was widely used as a means to educate and wake people up. And I don't mean the occasional "conscious" song we get from time to time.

Hip/hop or rap started out as a product of the environment but now it's starting to shape environments...and not for the good.

Thing is though when people talk about hip hop, what it really is are they talking about the Gucci's, Waka, and Chicken Noodle Soup niggas from NYC or they talking about Ice Cube, Kendrick, NWA, Outkast, Jay-Z, Nas, Talib, Mos Def, Big Krit, Rakim, J. Dilla, etc....i find it's more the latter when serious discussions about rap are being had
 
Stopitfive;5783403 said:
parents >>> hip hop... no one can refute this...

Exactly! Parents are the first people that mold the child and with proper teachings can uplift a child in more ways, but some people are definitely weaker minded and need the proper mental training to strengthen their mental foritude when it comes to people bringing false ideologies.
 

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