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focus;6008080 said:lazypakman;6007848 said:focus;6007629 said:focus;6007285 said:As far as solo Jay-Z albums go...
God Tier (in no order)
Reasonable Doubt
The Blueprint
The Black Album
American Gangster
Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life
Magna Carta Holy Grail
Mid Tier (in no order)
Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter
In My Lifetime, Vol. 1
The Blueprint 2: The Gift & The Curse
The Blueprint 3
Garbage Tier (in no order)
Kingdom Come
The Dynasty: Roc La Familia
That's a 3 hot albums every 10 years average.
Niggas "no-signing". I looked over my post again, I don't see no problems? Where did I go wrong?
put bp3 and and vol.1 down and bump dynasty up and your good.
vol.1 is a pretty forgettable album for most parts,aside from a couple of tracks ('you must love me','streets is watching' and a couple of others)who can say they still bump that on the regular with the rest of the catalogue?it was decent at the time and I wouldn't say its garbage but its his worst ageing album,a lot of it sounds really fucking corny now.
bp3 was just shit.first time I actually felt embarrassed for hov.he tried to be all things to all people and it didn't work.I don't know what kind of blueprint he thought he was setting up with that album but the shit should have been destroyed before it was ever built.
dynasty has some of his best work on it,there's no way it should be classed as garbage,'this can't be life' is a classic,just for faces verse alone.and 'i just want to love you' is arguably his best club track aside with 'big pimpin'.yeah there's some shit on there but the production is mostly nice.
the rest I pretty much agree with,aside from this.i usually let albums of this magnitude digest for a while to see how it holds up.i think within a catalogue this deep that's how every hip hop listener should evaluate albums.
The first 7 or so tracks on BP3 are pretty decent to great...then the album falls off a cliff completey (except for Already Home). I say mid-tier for a half and half album.
buttuh_b;6008428 said:Shut the fuck up with this "nothing to prove" nonsense. Making music isn't about proving yourself.
KillaCham;6008454 said:focus;6008080 said:lazypakman;6007848 said:focus;6007629 said:focus;6007285 said:As far as solo Jay-Z albums go...
God Tier (in no order)
Reasonable Doubt
The Blueprint
The Black Album
American Gangster
Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life
Magna Carta Holy Grail
Mid Tier (in no order)
Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter
In My Lifetime, Vol. 1
The Blueprint 2: The Gift & The Curse
The Blueprint 3
Garbage Tier (in no order)
Kingdom Come
The Dynasty: Roc La Familia
That's a 3 hot albums every 10 years average.
Niggas "no-signing". I looked over my post again, I don't see no problems? Where did I go wrong?
put bp3 and and vol.1 down and bump dynasty up and your good.
vol.1 is a pretty forgettable album for most parts,aside from a couple of tracks ('you must love me','streets is watching' and a couple of others)who can say they still bump that on the regular with the rest of the catalogue?it was decent at the time and I wouldn't say its garbage but its his worst ageing album,a lot of it sounds really fucking corny now.
bp3 was just shit.first time I actually felt embarrassed for hov.he tried to be all things to all people and it didn't work.I don't know what kind of blueprint he thought he was setting up with that album but the shit should have been destroyed before it was ever built.
dynasty has some of his best work on it,there's no way it should be classed as garbage,'this can't be life' is a classic,just for faces verse alone.and 'i just want to love you' is arguably his best club track aside with 'big pimpin'.yeah there's some shit on there but the production is mostly nice.
the rest I pretty much agree with,aside from this.i usually let albums of this magnitude digest for a while to see how it holds up.i think within a catalogue this deep that's how every hip hop listener should evaluate albums.
The first 7 or so tracks on BP3 are pretty decent to great...then the album falls off a cliff completey (except for Already Home). I say mid-tier for a half and half album.
8 decent to great songs on an album outta 14 tracks = 53% listenable album = F grade
Bottom tier material
Sweat jones;6008450 said:Ur reaching
It aint just the lyrics, its the beats. And it aint just the southerners, but its the music culture that YALL started. Dont git defensive lol, it is what it is. But w/out a doubt the whole 'strip club beat' shyt came from right down south bro.Disciplined InSight;6008259 said:s2jepeka;6008165 said:Disciplined InSight;6008136 said:s2jepeka;6007870 said:A1000MILES;6007847 said:...Sigh...Smh...Dro an Atlanta ass nigga...He don't like this shit like that...Stop tryna generalize us...
An exception dont negate the rule. *shrug*
Listen to the beats and flows. Jay knew what he was doin. And im convinced im right
You could made it easier on yourself said...
He simplified and borrowed the Southern cadence for niggas who can't comprehend complex lyrics i.e. Down South niggas who don't give a fuck about that.
Now that it's out the bag...@A1000MILES is right. You're generalizing and dead wrong.
Jay's sharpness in his delivery has gotten dull because he's at a point where he doesn't have anything lyrically to prove anymore..especially to the Hip Hop heads.
Maybe that's why he said "niggas want my old shit, buy my old albums".
Lmao How do u say the bolded, then say the underlined??
'complex lyrics...we dont give a fuk about that' Like thats some secondary shyt lmaooo Ngga we sayin the same thing.
He threw yall a bone. He wants your demographic and he got it!
You're still generalizing because you think ALL Southern niggas are like that but they're not. I don't know the percentages or numbers, but everyone from the South isn't like that.
Yeah, I'm from Alabama and I admit there are some niggas down here that don't give a fuck about complex lyrics, delivery, cadence but don't play that game with ALL the Southern niggas on here.
And for the record..my GOAT MC is Rakim...RAKIM nigga. I was raised in an Hip Hop era where I gives a fuck.
s2jepeka;6008528 said:It aint just the lyrics, its the beats. And it aint just the southerners, but its the music culture that YALL started. Dont git defensive lol, it is what it is. But w/out a doubt the whole 'strip club beat' shyt came from right down south bro.Disciplined InSight;6008259 said:s2jepeka;6008165 said:Disciplined InSight;6008136 said:s2jepeka;6007870 said:A1000MILES;6007847 said:...Sigh...Smh...Dro an Atlanta ass nigga...He don't like this shit like that...Stop tryna generalize us...
An exception dont negate the rule. *shrug*
Listen to the beats and flows. Jay knew what he was doin. And im convinced im right
You could made it easier on yourself said...
He simplified and borrowed the Southern cadence for niggas who can't comprehend complex lyrics i.e. Down South niggas who don't give a fuck about that.
Now that it's out the bag...@A1000MILES is right. You're generalizing and dead wrong.
Jay's sharpness in his delivery has gotten dull because he's at a point where he doesn't have anything lyrically to prove anymore..especially to the Hip Hop heads.
Maybe that's why he said "niggas want my old shit, buy my old albums".
Lmao How do u say the bolded, then say the underlined??
'complex lyrics...we dont give a fuk about that' Like thats some secondary shyt lmaooo Ngga we sayin the same thing.
He threw yall a bone. He wants your demographic and he got it!
You're still generalizing because you think ALL Southern niggas are like that but they're not. I don't know the percentages or numbers, but everyone from the South isn't like that.
Yeah, I'm from Alabama and I admit there are some niggas down here that don't give a fuck about complex lyrics, delivery, cadence but don't play that game with ALL the Southern niggas on here.
And for the record..my GOAT MC is Rakim...RAKIM nigga. I was raised in an Hip Hop era where I gives a fuck.
1 prime example: Beach is Better. Everybody seems to love that shyt rite?
Who produced it? Mike Will aka Bandz aka new bugatti aka that Ciara song that samples perhaps the GOAT Atl song, 'Boo'...aka Mr. Strip club beat
So yes, Jay Z is now rapping over strip club beats and b/c thats all we hear these days nggas dont even bat an eye...and yes, i blame the south. *shrug*
A1000MILES;6008562 said:s2jepeka;6008528 said:It aint just the lyrics, its the beats. And it aint just the southerners, but its the music culture that YALL started. Dont git defensive lol, it is what it is. But w/out a doubt the whole 'strip club beat' shyt came from right down south bro.Disciplined InSight;6008259 said:s2jepeka;6008165 said:Disciplined InSight;6008136 said:s2jepeka;6007870 said:A1000MILES;6007847 said:...Sigh...Smh...Dro an Atlanta ass nigga...He don't like this shit like that...Stop tryna generalize us...
An exception dont negate the rule. *shrug*
Listen to the beats and flows. Jay knew what he was doin. And im convinced im right
You could made it easier on yourself said...
He simplified and borrowed the Southern cadence for niggas who can't comprehend complex lyrics i.e. Down South niggas who don't give a fuck about that.
Now that it's out the bag...@A1000MILES is right. You're generalizing and dead wrong.
Jay's sharpness in his delivery has gotten dull because he's at a point where he doesn't have anything lyrically to prove anymore..especially to the Hip Hop heads.
Maybe that's why he said "niggas want my old shit, buy my old albums".
Lmao How do u say the bolded, then say the underlined??
'complex lyrics...we dont give a fuk about that' Like thats some secondary shyt lmaooo Ngga we sayin the same thing.
He threw yall a bone. He wants your demographic and he got it!
You're still generalizing because you think ALL Southern niggas are like that but they're not. I don't know the percentages or numbers, but everyone from the South isn't like that.
Yeah, I'm from Alabama and I admit there are some niggas down here that don't give a fuck about complex lyrics, delivery, cadence but don't play that game with ALL the Southern niggas on here.
And for the record..my GOAT MC is Rakim...RAKIM nigga. I was raised in an Hip Hop era where I gives a fuck.
1 prime example: Beach is Better. Everybody seems to love that shyt rite?
Who produced it? Mike Will aka Bandz aka new bugatti aka that Ciara song that samples perhaps the GOAT Atl song, 'Boo'...aka Mr. Strip club beat
So yes, Jay Z is now rapping over strip club beats and b/c thats all we hear these days nggas dont even bat an eye...and yes, i blame the south. *shrug*
Nigga, what Jay have you been listenin to since 98...Nigga been hoppin on all kinda different beats...Tryna fit into different markets..
focus;6008493 said:KillaCham;6008454 said:focus;6008080 said:lazypakman;6007848 said:focus;6007629 said:focus;6007285 said:As far as solo Jay-Z albums go...
God Tier (in no order)
Reasonable Doubt
The Blueprint
The Black Album
American Gangster
Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life
Magna Carta Holy Grail
Mid Tier (in no order)
Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter
In My Lifetime, Vol. 1
The Blueprint 2: The Gift & The Curse
The Blueprint 3
Garbage Tier (in no order)
Kingdom Come
The Dynasty: Roc La Familia
That's a 3 hot albums every 10 years average.
Niggas "no-signing". I looked over my post again, I don't see no problems? Where did I go wrong?
put bp3 and and vol.1 down and bump dynasty up and your good.
vol.1 is a pretty forgettable album for most parts,aside from a couple of tracks ('you must love me','streets is watching' and a couple of others)who can say they still bump that on the regular with the rest of the catalogue?it was decent at the time and I wouldn't say its garbage but its his worst ageing album,a lot of it sounds really fucking corny now.
bp3 was just shit.first time I actually felt embarrassed for hov.he tried to be all things to all people and it didn't work.I don't know what kind of blueprint he thought he was setting up with that album but the shit should have been destroyed before it was ever built.
dynasty has some of his best work on it,there's no way it should be classed as garbage,'this can't be life' is a classic,just for faces verse alone.and 'i just want to love you' is arguably his best club track aside with 'big pimpin'.yeah there's some shit on there but the production is mostly nice.
the rest I pretty much agree with,aside from this.i usually let albums of this magnitude digest for a while to see how it holds up.i think within a catalogue this deep that's how every hip hop listener should evaluate albums.
The first 7 or so tracks on BP3 are pretty decent to great...then the album falls off a cliff completey (except for Already Home). I say mid-tier for a half and half album.
8 decent to great songs on an album outta 14 tracks = 53% listenable album = F grade
Bottom tier material
But you have to then compare BP3 to the other F Grade albums. Kingdom Come and The Dynasty do not have 8 listenable tracks. Compared to those albums, suddently BP3 becomes a C- . This shit only works on a curve.