Jay-Z - 'Magna Carta Holy Grail'

[buttuh_b]

Yo I forgot how to count. Someone tell me how many hooks Jay did himself on this album b?

 

[sully]

"C3 and C4 are Wayne's only real album albums." lol nah that excuse is such bullshit.

do you consider 808's and Yeezus as Kanye's "real album albums". those are artistic risks as well.

and shit, rebirth has a hell of a lot of rapping for a rock album. most of that was just rapping over rock inspired beats imo.

I guess being recorded in a studio with exec. producers, music producers, having guest features, pressing, stamping, and selling physical copies to licensed sellers doesn't count as "real albums" anymore.

 

[StoneColdMikey]

"C3 and C4 are Wayne's only real album albums." lol nah that excuse is such bullshit.

do you consider 808's and Yeezus as Kanye's "real album albums". those are artistic risks as well.

and shit, rebirth has a hell of a lot of rapping for a rock album. most of that was just rapping over rock inspired beats imo.

And Wayne was actually rapping. Those beats suck but Wayne was spitin imo

 

[Already Home_17]

Yeah his last album to go multi was 10 years ago. So you're omitting about half of his career.

And don't ever compare Drake to Jay-Z.. first off Drake's last album did 700 out the gate. Second - he has the most #1 rap songs in the history of hip hop in a very short time. It took Jay a long ass time to reach that level and he still ain't fuckin with Drake in that arena. Third, Drake does his own hooks and doesn't need popular guest appearances or Annie to make a hit record. How many hooks did Jay do on Magna Carta b? No really, answer that. Tom Ford???? Twerk Miley Twerk????

Ain't nobody trying to discredit Jay but I'm an accountant and when you running around yelling this numbers don't like fuck shit and not considering the circumstances and then use these statistics to back up your argument of artistic ability and quality is when I get mad because I love music. And then yall turn around and say that Em or Wayne's sales don't mean anything when they did it the hard way. Can you really say this accomplishment compares to other artists who had greater impact?

Yall say dumb shit like yeah, Jay woulda sold a million anyway disregarding the fact that majority of those Samsung users wouldn't have purchased the album evidenced by his sales patterns since retirement.

And I ain't even started talking about music yet.

That's facts only and if any of yall ready to refute it we can get to it.

BP3 dropped in 2009

where's drake's 5 times platinum record? where is drakes 13 number 1 albums? i can play that game too bruh

if drake keep putting up 400,000-600,000 first week numbers and back to back platinum records he can be compared to jay-z who has done that exact same shit consistently. thats my point. i said clearly in THAT aspect he's comparable to jay-z. you here talking about their talent, strengths and weaknesses while im comparing their commercial success

In that aspect Drake is far above Jay. If you wanna talk about first two albums post Jay's first week numbers from his first two albums. Also like I stated, Drake's debut numbers aren't even indicative of the buzz Drake had when he first emerged due to a leak. Unfortunately for Drake he wasn't around during the late 90's and early 2000's where it was easy to do numbers or I'm sure Take Care would be 5x plat based on how the singles performed on the charts. He had mad top 10 billboard hits. So it sounds like you're underestimating what Drake will do. He's a bigger artist right now than Jay ever was at any point in his career. They was comparing Drake's original buzz to 50 Cent. Come on now b.

13 #1 albums means you timed your release week well. His toughest competition was Stankonia. Who did he go against in the debut of MCHG? 3 week old album of J. Cole? Who did BP3 go against? Fucking Raekwon? I don't give a fuck about a #1 album. It doesn't tell me enough. But I give him props on consistency.

im comparing his commercial track record to one of the top 3 best selling rappers ever

by time his career is over he could very well outsell jay-z yet im underestimating him? ok

you not being able to remember who he went up against is kind of the point. his album made others an afterthought for that week of release. maybe artists avoided that week because they didnt want to compete with jay. is that not possible?

and you dont give a fuck about number 1 albums but when it came to discrediting jay you gave a fuck about drakes #1 singles.

dude....log off. try again tomorrow

 

[buttuh_b]

Jay gold in physical sales first week...

Numbers don't lie...

Prolly be double plat by September...

Why his last album that came out 4 years ago still ain't double plat yet Recovery which dropped a year later is half way to diamond?

like jay is the only nigga eminem has outsold

bp3 is double plat btw

When I checked last year it was still at about 1.8 three years after the release. But it's easy for him to go double plat without Samsung. He woulda moved 1.5 M first week with or without Samsung, even though it's triple his first week average and he didn't have any singles.

But you right, Em ain't the only rapper who outsells Jay consistently. Wayne and Drake do this routinely as well.

Nothing Was the Same in stores September 17th!

#factsonly

Lil Wayne does not outsell Jay-Z routinely.

In fact, Wayne JUST went to 510,000 in sales for IANAHB2, while Jay-Z is predicted to do 528,000 first week when the numbers come out tomorrow.

Jay-Z's lowest selling solo album has sold more than 6 of Lil Wayne's 10 solo albums.

And Drake has only outsold Jay-Z once, when they both released albums in 2011, and Jay-Z's wasn't a solo album.

So i'm not sure what you're getting at with your comment about those two "routinely outselling Jay-Z"

Read my post directed to Tabernacle. I concede that IANAHB2 is a sign that Wayne's popularity is declining. But you can't deny that Wayne's pinnacle sales wise >>>>> Jay's pinnacle and the extra million copies Samsung "bought" isn't a reflection of Jay's current popularity eclipsing Wayne's at its height. That's the only point I'm getting at. So I guess I worded my post wrong. Same applies for Drake though.

 

[sully]

Yeah his last album to go multi was 10 years ago. So you're omitting about half of his career.

And don't ever compare Drake to Jay-Z.. first off Drake's last album did 700 out the gate. Second - he has the most #1 rap songs in the history of hip hop in a very short time. It took Jay a long ass time to reach that level and he still ain't fuckin with Drake in that arena. Third, Drake does his own hooks and doesn't need popular guest appearances or Annie to make a hit record. How many hooks did Jay do on Magna Carta b? No really, answer that. Tom Ford???? Twerk Miley Twerk????

Ain't nobody trying to discredit Jay but I'm an accountant and when you running around yelling this numbers don't like fuck shit and not considering the circumstances and then use these statistics to back up your argument of artistic ability and quality is when I get mad because I love music. And then yall turn around and say that Em or Wayne's sales don't mean anything when they did it the hard way. Can you really say this accomplishment compares to other artists who had greater impact?

Yall say dumb shit like yeah, Jay woulda sold a million anyway disregarding the fact that majority of those Samsung users wouldn't have purchased the album evidenced by his sales patterns since retirement.

And I ain't even started talking about music yet.

That's facts only and if any of yall ready to refute it we can get to it.

BP3 dropped in 2009

where's drake's 5 times platinum record? where is drakes 13 number 1 albums? i can play that game too bruh

if drake keep putting up 400,000-600,000 first week numbers and back to back platinum records he can be compared to jay-z who has done that exact same shit consistently. thats my point. i said clearly in THAT aspect he's comparable to jay-z. you here talking about their talent, strengths and weaknesses while im comparing their commercial success

In that aspect Drake is far above Jay. If you wanna talk about first two albums post Jay's first week numbers from his first two albums. Also like I stated, Drake's debut numbers aren't even indicative of the buzz Drake had when he first emerged due to a leak. Unfortunately for Drake he wasn't around during the late 90's and early 2000's where it was easy to do numbers or I'm sure Take Care would be 5x plat based on how the singles performed on the charts. He had mad top 10 billboard hits. So it sounds like you're underestimating what Drake will do. He's a bigger artist right now than Jay ever was at any point in his career. They was comparing Drake's original buzz to 50 Cent. Come on now b.

13 #1 albums means you timed your release week well. His toughest competition was Stankonia. Who did he go against in the debut of MCHG? 3 week old album of J. Cole? Who did BP3 go against? Fucking Raekwon? I don't give a fuck about a #1 album. It doesn't tell me enough. But I give him props on consistency.

Or maybe other artists don't want to release their albums when he releases his, considering all the press and hype his releases get.

 

[buttuh_b]

Yeah his last album to go multi was 10 years ago. So you're omitting about half of his career.

And don't ever compare Drake to Jay-Z.. first off Drake's last album did 700 out the gate. Second - he has the most #1 rap songs in the history of hip hop in a very short time. It took Jay a long ass time to reach that level and he still ain't fuckin with Drake in that arena. Third, Drake does his own hooks and doesn't need popular guest appearances or Annie to make a hit record. How many hooks did Jay do on Magna Carta b? No really, answer that. Tom Ford???? Twerk Miley Twerk????

Ain't nobody trying to discredit Jay but I'm an accountant and when you running around yelling this numbers don't like fuck shit and not considering the circumstances and then use these statistics to back up your argument of artistic ability and quality is when I get mad because I love music. And then yall turn around and say that Em or Wayne's sales don't mean anything when they did it the hard way. Can you really say this accomplishment compares to other artists who had greater impact?

Yall say dumb shit like yeah, Jay woulda sold a million anyway disregarding the fact that majority of those Samsung users wouldn't have purchased the album evidenced by his sales patterns since retirement.

And I ain't even started talking about music yet.

That's facts only and if any of yall ready to refute it we can get to it.

BP3 dropped in 2009

where's drake's 5 times platinum record? where is drakes 13 number 1 albums? i can play that game too bruh

if drake keep putting up 400,000-600,000 first week numbers and back to back platinum records he can be compared to jay-z who has done that exact same shit consistently. thats my point. i said clearly in THAT aspect he's comparable to jay-z. you here talking about their talent, strengths and weaknesses while im comparing their commercial success

In that aspect Drake is far above Jay. If you wanna talk about first two albums post Jay's first week numbers from his first two albums. Also like I stated, Drake's debut numbers aren't even indicative of the buzz Drake had when he first emerged due to a leak. Unfortunately for Drake he wasn't around during the late 90's and early 2000's where it was easy to do numbers or I'm sure Take Care would be 5x plat based on how the singles performed on the charts. He had mad top 10 billboard hits. So it sounds like you're underestimating what Drake will do. He's a bigger artist right now than Jay ever was at any point in his career. They was comparing Drake's original buzz to 50 Cent. Come on now b.

13 #1 albums means you timed your release week well. His toughest competition was Stankonia. Who did he go against in the debut of MCHG? 3 week old album of J. Cole? Who did BP3 go against? Fucking Raekwon? I don't give a fuck about a #1 album. It doesn't tell me enough. But I give him props on consistency.

im comparing his commercial track record to one of the top 3 best selling rappers ever

by time his career is over he could very well outsell jay-z yet im underestimating him? ok

you not being able to remember who he went up against is kind of the point. his album made others an afterthought for that week of release. maybe artists avoided that week because they didnt want to compete with jay. is that not possible?

and you dont give a fuck about number 1 albums but when it came to discrediting jay you gave a fuck about drakes #1 singles.

dude....log off. try again tomorrow

It's not that I don't remember who he went up against. I looked every one of his first week Nielsen soundscans up a while ago and he usually dropped his album on weaker release dates. He wouldn't dare drop on the same day as a heavyweight in fear of not having a #1 album. For example, his #1 American Gangster doesn't hold the same significance of say a Get Rich or Die Tryin' second week numbers of 800k. You understand what I'm getting at? You think Adele will avoid releasing her album as the same day as Jay? No, because they're not actually competing with him for album sales (most artists don't put as much weight on the charting as the actual sales). "Numbers don't lie" b. That's what ya man said.

I gave a fuck about Drake's #1 singles only because it's a tougher feat and Drake did it in a crazy short amount of time. I doubt Drake will even release 14 albums or whatever.

I keep saying I give Jay props for remaining commercially relevant for so long but I believe the magnitude of it is overhyped and manufactured. It makes me laugh whenever he compares himself to Elvis or the Beatles. He'll never be no where near as popular as they were. Fuck them anyway, I prefer Stevie if we talking accomplishments and artistry.

 

[sully]

See that's the thing. I'm actually being objective but y'all fail to realize it.

 

[cladyclad30]

Im glad i came back to AHH!!

 

[buttuh_b]

Yeah his last album to go multi was 10 years ago. So you're omitting about half of his career.

And don't ever compare Drake to Jay-Z.. first off Drake's last album did 700 out the gate. Second - he has the most #1 rap songs in the history of hip hop in a very short time. It took Jay a long ass time to reach that level and he still ain't fuckin with Drake in that arena. Third, Drake does his own hooks and doesn't need popular guest appearances or Annie to make a hit record. How many hooks did Jay do on Magna Carta b? No really, answer that. Tom Ford???? Twerk Miley Twerk????

Ain't nobody trying to discredit Jay but I'm an accountant and when you running around yelling this numbers don't like fuck shit and not considering the circumstances and then use these statistics to back up your argument of artistic ability and quality is when I get mad because I love music. And then yall turn around and say that Em or Wayne's sales don't mean anything when they did it the hard way. Can you really say this accomplishment compares to other artists who had greater impact?

Yall say dumb shit like yeah, Jay woulda sold a million anyway disregarding the fact that majority of those Samsung users wouldn't have purchased the album evidenced by his sales patterns since retirement.

And I ain't even started talking about music yet.

That's facts only and if any of yall ready to refute it we can get to it.

BP3 dropped in 2009

where's drake's 5 times platinum record? where is drakes 13 number 1 albums? i can play that game too bruh

if drake keep putting up 400,000-600,000 first week numbers and back to back platinum records he can be compared to jay-z who has done that exact same shit consistently. thats my point. i said clearly in THAT aspect he's comparable to jay-z. you here talking about their talent, strengths and weaknesses while im comparing their commercial success

In that aspect Drake is far above Jay. If you wanna talk about first two albums post Jay's first week numbers from his first two albums. Also like I stated, Drake's debut numbers aren't even indicative of the buzz Drake had when he first emerged due to a leak. Unfortunately for Drake he wasn't around during the late 90's and early 2000's where it was easy to do numbers or I'm sure Take Care would be 5x plat based on how the singles performed on the charts. He had mad top 10 billboard hits. So it sounds like you're underestimating what Drake will do. He's a bigger artist right now than Jay ever was at any point in his career. They was comparing Drake's original buzz to 50 Cent. Come on now b.

13 #1 albums means you timed your release week well. His toughest competition was Stankonia. Who did he go against in the debut of MCHG? 3 week old album of J. Cole? Who did BP3 go against? Fucking Raekwon? I don't give a fuck about a #1 album. It doesn't tell me enough. But I give him props on consistency.

Or maybe other artists don't want to release their albums when he releases his, considering all the press and hype his releases get.

Are you implying someone like Taylor Swift or Justin Timberlake would be afraid to drop on the same day as Jay?

 

[sully]

Yeah his last album to go multi was 10 years ago. So you're omitting about half of his career.

And don't ever compare Drake to Jay-Z.. first off Drake's last album did 700 out the gate. Second - he has the most #1 rap songs in the history of hip hop in a very short time. It took Jay a long ass time to reach that level and he still ain't fuckin with Drake in that arena. Third, Drake does his own hooks and doesn't need popular guest appearances or Annie to make a hit record. How many hooks did Jay do on Magna Carta b? No really, answer that. Tom Ford???? Twerk Miley Twerk????

Ain't nobody trying to discredit Jay but I'm an accountant and when you running around yelling this numbers don't like fuck shit and not considering the circumstances and then use these statistics to back up your argument of artistic ability and quality is when I get mad because I love music. And then yall turn around and say that Em or Wayne's sales don't mean anything when they did it the hard way. Can you really say this accomplishment compares to other artists who had greater impact?

Yall say dumb shit like yeah, Jay woulda sold a million anyway disregarding the fact that majority of those Samsung users wouldn't have purchased the album evidenced by his sales patterns since retirement.

And I ain't even started talking about music yet.

That's facts only and if any of yall ready to refute it we can get to it.

BP3 dropped in 2009

where's drake's 5 times platinum record? where is drakes 13 number 1 albums? i can play that game too bruh

if drake keep putting up 400,000-600,000 first week numbers and back to back platinum records he can be compared to jay-z who has done that exact same shit consistently. thats my point. i said clearly in THAT aspect he's comparable to jay-z. you here talking about their talent, strengths and weaknesses while im comparing their commercial success

In that aspect Drake is far above Jay. If you wanna talk about first two albums post Jay's first week numbers from his first two albums. Also like I stated, Drake's debut numbers aren't even indicative of the buzz Drake had when he first emerged due to a leak. Unfortunately for Drake he wasn't around during the late 90's and early 2000's where it was easy to do numbers or I'm sure Take Care would be 5x plat based on how the singles performed on the charts. He had mad top 10 billboard hits. So it sounds like you're underestimating what Drake will do. He's a bigger artist right now than Jay ever was at any point in his career. They was comparing Drake's original buzz to 50 Cent. Come on now b.

13 #1 albums means you timed your release week well. His toughest competition was Stankonia. Who did he go against in the debut of MCHG? 3 week old album of J. Cole? Who did BP3 go against? Fucking Raekwon? I don't give a fuck about a #1 album. It doesn't tell me enough. But I give him props on consistency.

Or maybe other artists don't want to release their albums when he releases his, considering all the press and hype his releases get.

Are you implying someone like Taylor Swift or Justin Timberlake would be afraid to drop on the same day as Jay?

I'm saying there's few that can and not have his release impact theirs. But there are little to none in hip hop that can go up against him without significantly impacting their first week sales.

 

[DarthRozay]

Im glad i came back to AHH!!

what was your old screen name? when did you post on here?

 

[buttuh_b]

I guess now that I'm "discrediting" Jay and not being objective about his commercial success I'm forced to drop my album review tomorrow.

I got good things and bad things to say about the album.

 

[buttuh_b]

Yeah his last album to go multi was 10 years ago. So you're omitting about half of his career.

And don't ever compare Drake to Jay-Z.. first off Drake's last album did 700 out the gate. Second - he has the most #1 rap songs in the history of hip hop in a very short time. It took Jay a long ass time to reach that level and he still ain't fuckin with Drake in that arena. Third, Drake does his own hooks and doesn't need popular guest appearances or Annie to make a hit record. How many hooks did Jay do on Magna Carta b? No really, answer that. Tom Ford???? Twerk Miley Twerk????

Ain't nobody trying to discredit Jay but I'm an accountant and when you running around yelling this numbers don't like fuck shit and not considering the circumstances and then use these statistics to back up your argument of artistic ability and quality is when I get mad because I love music. And then yall turn around and say that Em or Wayne's sales don't mean anything when they did it the hard way. Can you really say this accomplishment compares to other artists who had greater impact?

Yall say dumb shit like yeah, Jay woulda sold a million anyway disregarding the fact that majority of those Samsung users wouldn't have purchased the album evidenced by his sales patterns since retirement.

And I ain't even started talking about music yet.

That's facts only and if any of yall ready to refute it we can get to it.

BP3 dropped in 2009

where's drake's 5 times platinum record? where is drakes 13 number 1 albums? i can play that game too bruh

if drake keep putting up 400,000-600,000 first week numbers and back to back platinum records he can be compared to jay-z who has done that exact same shit consistently. thats my point. i said clearly in THAT aspect he's comparable to jay-z. you here talking about their talent, strengths and weaknesses while im comparing their commercial success

In that aspect Drake is far above Jay. If you wanna talk about first two albums post Jay's first week numbers from his first two albums. Also like I stated, Drake's debut numbers aren't even indicative of the buzz Drake had when he first emerged due to a leak. Unfortunately for Drake he wasn't around during the late 90's and early 2000's where it was easy to do numbers or I'm sure Take Care would be 5x plat based on how the singles performed on the charts. He had mad top 10 billboard hits. So it sounds like you're underestimating what Drake will do. He's a bigger artist right now than Jay ever was at any point in his career. They was comparing Drake's original buzz to 50 Cent. Come on now b.

13 #1 albums means you timed your release week well. His toughest competition was Stankonia. Who did he go against in the debut of MCHG? 3 week old album of J. Cole? Who did BP3 go against? Fucking Raekwon? I don't give a fuck about a #1 album. It doesn't tell me enough. But I give him props on consistency.

Or maybe other artists don't want to release their albums when he releases his, considering all the press and hype his releases get.

Are you implying someone like Taylor Swift or Justin Timberlake would be afraid to drop on the same day as Jay?

I'm saying there's few that can and not have his release impact theirs. But there are little to none in hip hop that can go up against him without significantly impacting their first week sales.

I don't think Jay coulda dropped on the same day as C3 and outsold Wayne or ever on the same day as Eminem. But we'll never know because it didn't happen.

However, I can only base this on the fact that Jay has never cracked 700k in his 17 year career until Samsung purchased those albums with no singles released.

Jay is consistent, that's where the props stop.

 

[sully]

I never said anything about outselling Wayne when he released C3. I said there's few he could go against and not have an impact on their first week sales.

You think C3 would've sold as many as it did if Jay-Z also released that day? Wayne's numbers would be down and so would Jay-Z's. I'd even say Jay-Z would get Wayne on that day too, maybe beating him by a bit, considering Wayne was trying his damn hardest around that time to be like Jay-Z.

But hypotheticals are neither here nor there.

 

[Already Home_17]

Yeah his last album to go multi was 10 years ago. So you're omitting about half of his career.

And don't ever compare Drake to Jay-Z.. first off Drake's last album did 700 out the gate. Second - he has the most #1 rap songs in the history of hip hop in a very short time. It took Jay a long ass time to reach that level and he still ain't fuckin with Drake in that arena. Third, Drake does his own hooks and doesn't need popular guest appearances or Annie to make a hit record. How many hooks did Jay do on Magna Carta b? No really, answer that. Tom Ford???? Twerk Miley Twerk????

Ain't nobody trying to discredit Jay but I'm an accountant and when you running around yelling this numbers don't like fuck shit and not considering the circumstances and then use these statistics to back up your argument of artistic ability and quality is when I get mad because I love music. And then yall turn around and say that Em or Wayne's sales don't mean anything when they did it the hard way. Can you really say this accomplishment compares to other artists who had greater impact?

Yall say dumb shit like yeah, Jay woulda sold a million anyway disregarding the fact that majority of those Samsung users wouldn't have purchased the album evidenced by his sales patterns since retirement.

And I ain't even started talking about music yet.

That's facts only and if any of yall ready to refute it we can get to it.

BP3 dropped in 2009

where's drake's 5 times platinum record? where is drakes 13 number 1 albums? i can play that game too bruh

if drake keep putting up 400,000-600,000 first week numbers and back to back platinum records he can be compared to jay-z who has done that exact same shit consistently. thats my point. i said clearly in THAT aspect he's comparable to jay-z. you here talking about their talent, strengths and weaknesses while im comparing their commercial success

In that aspect Drake is far above Jay. If you wanna talk about first two albums post Jay's first week numbers from his first two albums. Also like I stated, Drake's debut numbers aren't even indicative of the buzz Drake had when he first emerged due to a leak. Unfortunately for Drake he wasn't around during the late 90's and early 2000's where it was easy to do numbers or I'm sure Take Care would be 5x plat based on how the singles performed on the charts. He had mad top 10 billboard hits. So it sounds like you're underestimating what Drake will do. He's a bigger artist right now than Jay ever was at any point in his career. They was comparing Drake's original buzz to 50 Cent. Come on now b.

13 #1 albums means you timed your release week well. His toughest competition was Stankonia. Who did he go against in the debut of MCHG? 3 week old album of J. Cole? Who did BP3 go against? Fucking Raekwon? I don't give a fuck about a #1 album. It doesn't tell me enough. But I give him props on consistency.

im comparing his commercial track record to one of the top 3 best selling rappers ever

by time his career is over he could very well outsell jay-z yet im underestimating him? ok

you not being able to remember who he went up against is kind of the point. his album made others an afterthought for that week of release. maybe artists avoided that week because they didnt want to compete with jay. is that not possible?

and you dont give a fuck about number 1 albums but when it came to discrediting jay you gave a fuck about drakes #1 singles.

dude....log off. try again tomorrow

It's not that I don't remember who he went up against. I looked every one of his first week Nielsen soundscans up a while ago and he usually dropped his album on weaker release dates. He wouldn't dare drop on the same day as a heavyweight in fear of not having a #1 album. For example, his #1 American Gangster doesn't hold the same significance of say a Get Rich or Die Tryin' second week numbers of 800k. You understand what I'm getting at? You think Adele will avoid releasing her album as the same day as Jay? No, because they're not actually competing with him for album sales (most artists don't put as much weight on the charting as the actual sales). "Numbers don't lie" b. That's what ya man said.

I gave a fuck about Drake's #1 singles only because it's a tougher feat and Drake did it in a crazy short amount of time. I doubt Drake will even release 14 albums or whatever.

I keep saying I give Jay props for remaining commercially relevant for so long but I believe the magnitude of it is overhyped and manufactured. It makes me laugh whenever he compares himself to Elvis or the Beatles. He'll never be no where near as popular as they were. Fuck them anyway, I prefer Stevie if we talking accomplishments and artistry.

1. jay is a heavyweight in himself. and what is a weaker release date? like I said you won't consider the possibility of rappers ducking him. bringing up Adele is pointless because eminem himself probably couldn't outsell her in the first week

2. not many albums have THAT significance anyway tho. bring up em, kanye, wayne's projects all you want to argue that point but that's 3 rappers out of how many?

 

[newsnotgossip]

Check out our recent review of the albumhttp://www.newsnotgossip.com/review-magna-carta-jay-z/

 

[qawshun]

i see what your saying about drake and he is making a good run but will it last ? jay been killing shit for a min dropping every year at one point. while dudes like drake flood the radio with 1000 singles he's on everybody shit . i don't think he gonna drop as many lps as jay and keep those numbers up

 

[buttuh_b]

Wayne wasn't trying his hardest to be like Jay-Z in 2008, that was around 2002-2005 when he killed a lot of Jay's beats colder than Jay could imagine. Wayne's flow was actually more organic than Jay at that time.

No way Jay would outsell C3. AG came out like 7 months prior and only moved 400k while Wayne did 1.1 million. I was a junior in high school at the time (the kids who were buying music). Everyone loved Wayne and people were kinda over Jay at that point. Jay didn't really regain a major buzz till Run This Town with Kanye and Rihanna and BP3 still did 400 something first week.

We not gon rewrite history here. All that shit is too fresh in my mind. Yall better off with that Reasonable Doubt 96 shit cause I was in elementary school.

 

[Nah Son]

lol I see Buttuh is gettin his Shadyteam on

Talking bout Korean headquarters and countin hooks smh shit is pitiful

Plat in one day, deal with it son.