Jay-Z - 'Magna Carta Holy Grail'

[IceBergTaylor]

I really hope that the next rapper to make a move similar to this, you have the same uproar as you and alot of other folks are having now.

 

[Already Home_17]

Jay gold in physical sales first week...

Numbers don't lie...

Prolly be double plat by September...

Why his last album that came out 4 years ago still ain't double plat yet Recovery which dropped a year later is half way to diamond?

like jay is the only nigga eminem has outsold

bp3 is double plat btw

 

[cladyclad30]

Album of the year so far

 

[buttuh_b]

Jay gold in physical sales first week...

Numbers don't lie...

Prolly be double plat by September...

Why his last album that came out 4 years ago still ain't double plat yet Recovery which dropped a year later is half way to diamond?

like jay is the only nigga eminem has outsold

bp3 is double plat btw

When I checked last year it was still at about 1.8 three years after the release. But it's easy for him to go double plat without Samsung. He woulda moved 1.5 M first week with or without Samsung, even though it's triple his first week average and he didn't have any singles.

But you right, Em ain't the only rapper who outsells Jay consistently. Wayne and Drake do this routinely as well.

Nothing Was the Same in stores September 17th!

#factsonly

 

[buttuh_b]

This dude Spyda got a video of Nelly saying Kobe Bryant didn't want Phil Jackson back in his sig right now. You back on that dope doggy.

 

[CoolJoe]

Now that I think about it, those one million copies shouldn't be counted toward RIAA sales because it's a Korean company. RIAA only counts United States sales.

Lmao, you're trying too hard.

 

[buttuh_b]

Now that I think about it, those one million copies shouldn't be counted toward RIAA sales because it's a Korean company. RIAA only counts United States sales.

Lmao, you're try too hard.

Tell me where Samsung is headquartered.

Tell me where sales are based from which RIAA awards plaques.

It's not a coincidence you're a Jigga Warrior.

 

[Already Home_17]

Jay gold in physical sales first week...

Numbers don't lie...

Prolly be double plat by September...

Why his last album that came out 4 years ago still ain't double plat yet Recovery which dropped a year later is half way to diamond?

like jay is the only nigga eminem has outsold

bp3 is double plat btw

When I checked last year it was still at about 1.8 three years after the release. But it's easy for him to go double plat without Samsung. He woulda moved 1.5 M first week with or without Samsung, even though it's triple his first week average and he didn't have any singles.

But you right, Em ain't the only rapper who outsells Jay consistently. Wayne and Drake do this routinely as well.

Nothing Was the Same in stores September 17th!

#factsonly

yeah cuz he been doing it damn near his whole career

vol 2

vol 3

dynasty

bp

bp2

black album

MCHG *most likely*

i have no doubt drake will do numbers first week. 400-600k. he's basically this generations jay-z in that aspect

but waynes last album just went gold

jay just did that in his first week without the Samsung deal

you and bunch of other dudes on here are trying too hard to discredit this dude

 

[texasdaking88]

Jay gold in physical sales first week...

Numbers don't lie...

Prolly be double plat by September...

Why his last album that came out 4 years ago still ain't double plat yet Recovery which dropped a year later is half way to diamond?

like jay is the only nigga eminem has outsold

bp3 is double plat btw

When I checked last year it was still at about 1.8 three years after the release. But it's easy for him to go double plat without Samsung. He woulda moved 1.5 M first week with or without Samsung, even though it's triple his first week average and he didn't have any singles.

But you right, Em ain't the only rapper who outsells Jay consistently. Wayne and Drake do this routinely as well.

Nothing Was the Same in stores September 17th!

#factsonly

2 times= routinely now?

 

[buttuh_b]

Yeah his last album to go multi was 10 years ago. So you're omitting about half of his career.

And don't ever compare Drake to Jay-Z.. first off Drake's last album did 700 out the gate. Second - he has the most #1 rap songs in the history of hip hop in a very short time. It took Jay a long ass time to reach that level and he still ain't fuckin with Drake in that arena. Third, Drake does his own hooks and doesn't need popular guest appearances or Annie to make a hit record. How many hooks did Jay do on Magna Carta b? No really, answer that. Tom Ford???? Twerk Miley Twerk????

Ain't nobody trying to discredit Jay but I'm an accountant and when you running around yelling this numbers don't like fuck shit and not considering the circumstances and then use these statistics to back up your argument of artistic ability and quality is when I get mad because I love music. And then yall turn around and say that Em or Wayne's sales don't mean anything when they did it the hard way. Can you really say this accomplishment compares to other artists who had greater impact?

Yall say dumb shit like yeah, Jay woulda sold a million anyway disregarding the fact that majority of those Samsung users wouldn't have purchased the album evidenced by his sales patterns since retirement.

And I ain't even started talking about music yet.

That's facts only and if any of yall ready to refute it we can get to it.

 

[DarthRozay]

Jay gold in physical sales first week...

Numbers don't lie...

Prolly be double plat by September...

Why his last album that came out 4 years ago still ain't double plat yet Recovery which dropped a year later is half way to diamond?

like jay is the only nigga eminem has outsold

bp3 is double plat btw

But you right, Em ain't the only rapper who outsells Jay consistently. Wayne and Drake do this routinely as well.

Nothing Was the Same in stores September 17th!

#factsonly

Hate to burst your bubble there but it hasn't exactly been "routinely".

Doing some research on wiki, jay has been selling at least over 300k first week since vol 2 (couldn't find what vol 1 and RD sold first week).

wayne on the other hand, hasn't broken 300k first week on any of his albums besides Carter 3 and Carter 4. That's 2 out of 10 albums.

now drake is a bit better. his first album fell into jay's typical sales range for first week, with 400-something k. but his second album was much better, selling 631k which was more than every jay album besides Kingdom Come (that sold 680k if anyone's wondering). not bad for his second album, and i've got a feeling this next one will sell even more.

 

[buttuh_b]

Jay gold in physical sales first week...

Numbers don't lie...

Prolly be double plat by September...

Why his last album that came out 4 years ago still ain't double plat yet Recovery which dropped a year later is half way to diamond?

like jay is the only nigga eminem has outsold

bp3 is double plat btw

But you right, Em ain't the only rapper who outsells Jay consistently. Wayne and Drake do this routinely as well.

Nothing Was the Same in stores September 17th!

#factsonly

Hate to burst your bubble there but it hasn't exactly been "routinely".

Doing some research on wiki, jay has been selling at least over 300k first week since vol 2 (couldn't find what vol 1 and RD sold first week).

wayne on the other hand, hasn't broken 300k first week on any of his albums besides Carter 3 and Carter 4. That's 2 out of 10 albums.

now drake is a bit better. his first album fell into jay's typical sales range for first week, with 400-something k. but his second album was much better, selling 631k which was more than every jay album besides Kingdom Come (that sold 680k if anyone's wondering). not bad for his second album, and i've got a feeling this next one will sell even more.

When I say routinely I'm talking about post-retirement Jay obviously. Drake's album underperformed relative to the hype. C3 and C4 are Wayne's only real album albums. Wayne took a true artistic risk with Rebirth and didn't promote it to anyone other than his core fans.. IANAHB was an EP with no promotion while he was in jail. I will give you IANAHBII. But yea, pretty much these guys can shit on Jay sales wise if they want along with Kanye if he felt like going an orthadox route. His last two albums had minimal traditional promotion and didn't cater to the radio.

I'm not shocked Jay is moving almost 600 first week (which I predicted, ask @BlackGerald) which deviates from his normal numbers because Samsung promoted the shit out of it and there was great anticipation from idiotic fans who are blind to the fact that Jay is a shell of his former self.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

not now buttah im in the donkey

 

[Already Home_17]

Yeah his last album to go multi was 10 years ago. So you're omitting about half of his career.

And don't ever compare Drake to Jay-Z.. first off Drake's last album did 700 out the gate. Second - he has the most #1 rap songs in the history of hip hop in a very short time. It took Jay a long ass time to reach that level and he still ain't fuckin with Drake in that arena. Third, Drake does his own hooks and doesn't need popular guest appearances or Annie to make a hit record. How many hooks did Jay do on Magna Carta b? No really, answer that. Tom Ford???? Twerk Miley Twerk????

Ain't nobody trying to discredit Jay but I'm an accountant and when you running around yelling this numbers don't like fuck shit and not considering the circumstances and then use these statistics to back up your argument of artistic ability and quality is when I get mad because I love music. And then yall turn around and say that Em or Wayne's sales don't mean anything when they did it the hard way. Can you really say this accomplishment compares to other artists who had greater impact?

Yall say dumb shit like yeah, Jay woulda sold a million anyway disregarding the fact that majority of those Samsung users wouldn't have purchased the album evidenced by his sales patterns since retirement.

And I ain't even started talking about music yet.

That's facts only and if any of yall ready to refute it we can get to it.

BP3 dropped in 2009

where's drake's 5 times platinum record? where is drakes 13 number 1 albums? i can play that game too bruh. commercially successful rappers are basically chasing jay's records while jay is still competing with them.

if drake keep putting up 400,000-600,000 first week numbers and back to back platinum records he can be compared to jay-z who has done that exact same shit consistently. thats my point. i said clearly in THAT aspect he's comparable to jay-z. you here talking about their talent, strengths and weaknesses while im comparing their commercial success

 

[sully]

The chain isn't his...

He clearly mentioned this on the Breakfast club. Dont know how niggas missed that.

Niggas don't listen.

 

[DarthRozay]

"C3 and C4 are Wayne's only real album albums." lol nah that excuse is such bullshit.

do you consider 808's and Yeezus as Kanye's "real album albums". those are artistic risks as well.

and shit, rebirth has a hell of a lot of rapping for a rock album. most of that was just rapping over rock inspired beats imo.

 

[Infamous.H_G_C]

This nigga jay got the "roc a fella chain" back on again huh? Ain't seen that in years

He owns RocaFella again, he got it back from Universal Music.

 

[buttuh_b]

Yeah his last album to go multi was 10 years ago. So you're omitting about half of his career.

And don't ever compare Drake to Jay-Z.. first off Drake's last album did 700 out the gate. Second - he has the most #1 rap songs in the history of hip hop in a very short time. It took Jay a long ass time to reach that level and he still ain't fuckin with Drake in that arena. Third, Drake does his own hooks and doesn't need popular guest appearances or Annie to make a hit record. How many hooks did Jay do on Magna Carta b? No really, answer that. Tom Ford???? Twerk Miley Twerk????

Ain't nobody trying to discredit Jay but I'm an accountant and when you running around yelling this numbers don't like fuck shit and not considering the circumstances and then use these statistics to back up your argument of artistic ability and quality is when I get mad because I love music. And then yall turn around and say that Em or Wayne's sales don't mean anything when they did it the hard way. Can you really say this accomplishment compares to other artists who had greater impact?

Yall say dumb shit like yeah, Jay woulda sold a million anyway disregarding the fact that majority of those Samsung users wouldn't have purchased the album evidenced by his sales patterns since retirement.

And I ain't even started talking about music yet.

That's facts only and if any of yall ready to refute it we can get to it.

BP3 dropped in 2009

where's drake's 5 times platinum record? where is drakes 13 number 1 albums? i can play that game too bruh

if drake keep putting up 400,000-600,000 first week numbers and back to back platinum records he can be compared to jay-z who has done that exact same shit consistently. thats my point. i said clearly in THAT aspect he's comparable to jay-z. you here talking about their talent, strengths and weaknesses while im comparing their commercial success

In that aspect Drake is far above Jay. If you wanna talk about first two albums post Jay's first week numbers from his first two albums. Also like I stated, Drake's debut numbers aren't even indicative of the buzz Drake had when he first emerged due to a leak. Unfortunately for Drake he wasn't around during the late 90's and early 2000's where it was easy to do numbers or I'm sure Take Care would be 5x plat based on how the singles performed on the charts. He had mad top 10 billboard hits. So it sounds like you're underestimating what Drake will do. He's a bigger artist right now than Jay ever was at any point in his career. They was comparing Drake's original buzz to 50 Cent. Come on now b.

13 #1 albums means you timed your release week well. His toughest competition was Stankonia. Who did he go against in the debut of MCHG? 3 week old album of J. Cole? Who did BP3 go against? Fucking Raekwon? I don't give a fuck about a #1 album. It doesn't tell me enough. But I give him props on consistency.

 

[buttuh_b]

"C3 and C4 are Wayne's only real album albums." lol nah that excuse is such bullshit.

do you consider 808's and Yeezus as Kanye's "real album albums". those are artistic risks as well.

and shit, rebirth has a hell of a lot of rapping for a rock album. most of that was just rapping over rock inspired beats imo.

If you read my post I said that if Kanye dropped traditional albums that he cared about sales with he would easily outperform Jay just like Wayne could.

Jay and 50 are the two rappers who care most about and guard their statistics. It's clear. But to be fair, I think Jay took a chance with American Gangster as it wasn't commercially friendly. Coincidentally, it was one of his better albums.

See that's the thing. I'm actually being objective but y'all fail to realize it.

 

[sully]

Jay gold in physical sales first week...

Numbers don't lie...

Prolly be double plat by September...

Why his last album that came out 4 years ago still ain't double plat yet Recovery which dropped a year later is half way to diamond?

like jay is the only nigga eminem has outsold

bp3 is double plat btw

When I checked last year it was still at about 1.8 three years after the release. But it's easy for him to go double plat without Samsung. He woulda moved 1.5 M first week with or without Samsung, even though it's triple his first week average and he didn't have any singles.

But you right, Em ain't the only rapper who outsells Jay consistently. Wayne and Drake do this routinely as well.

Nothing Was the Same in stores September 17th!

#factsonly

Lil Wayne does not outsell Jay-Z routinely.

In fact, Wayne JUST went to 510,000 in sales for IANAHB2, while Jay-Z is predicted to do 528,000 first week when the numbers come out tomorrow.

Jay-Z's lowest selling solo album has sold more than 6 of Lil Wayne's 10 solo albums.

And Drake has only outsold Jay-Z once, when they both released albums in 2011, and Jay-Z's wasn't a solo album.

So i'm not sure what you're getting at with your comment about those two "routinely outselling Jay-Z"