Jay-Z - 'Magna Carta Holy Grail'

[JDSTAYWITIT]

Thats the funny thing about some people who point out Jay z lines. Yea his lines r witty, but sometimes, especially now, they're not as deep as they think. Lol So it just exposes them

They point out a rather simple line n you just look at em like 'Ngga, thats deep to you?'

@nahson I'm looking at you...sir.

Meeeehhhh nah

Problem is you can't really make a definitive statement like "it ain't really deep" or whatever the case may be because you didn't write the shit nor do you know the intent .... This is exactly why lyrics get misinterpreted all the time by niggaz swearing they know what such n such talking about

For example ..Jay explained the Miley Cyrus line on twitter ... And while its not exactly some James Baldwin esque assessment of American society it is a very keen attempt at explaing the fear in which older white culture still has in regards to black cultures deeply impactful influence

Yet niggas sittin here focusing on OMG he said "twerk" that's so "cringeworthy" ..... Whilst missing the whole fucking point of the lyrics and not realizing the sarcastic humor in him pointing out how much this hiphop shit has "turnt this American Sweetheart out" ...

But ...."nahhhhh this shit can't have any depth to it". ...you niggas sound stuuuupid tryna to analyze a Jayz lyric"

Smh.....Impoverished ass niggas

Then you are exactly the type of the dumb-smart ngga i'm refering to

I dont need Jay z, or anyone else, to spoon feed me a 'movin white girl, double entendre, get it?' soliloqy in order to get it.

I 'got it' on the first listen.

Dumb-smart ngga: Man, they just dont get it! They aint even listenin!

Me: No, dumb-smart ngga. I overstand the line, and i'm telling you it wasnt a) hard to get in the first place, or b) really that damn deep

Nobody called the shit "deep" your over exaggerating with your rhetoric ....as most "non smart dumb niggas" tend to do

However the line is good ... And displays an individual being observant and providing social commentary ... Something that flys in the face at what a JayZ album is typically perceived to be

 

[TRILLip Brooks]

djenvy ‏@djenvy 3h

Man..its gonna happen Jay- Z on the Breakfast Club. Will be Epic!!!! 2moro am at 7am!!!

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

Why yall dropping all these yuppie media reviews I gives a fuck what these Columbia creative writing program dropouts got to say about rap albums

Tell em to stick to review Hootie and The Blowfish or some shit

Conversational Pieces

 

[ohhhla]

I never noticed this but Nas stans are kinda annoying.

Damn.

 

[tompetrez3]

Chris Richards is telling the truth. Jay z siad you niggas are not worth anything .Y'all niggas hyped up off 16 weak ass tracks of rehashed Jay Z topics only because Samsung and Jay Z made a spectacle out of the release. jay z ain't doing nothing on Mchg that other niggas have been doing all year. Jay z rapping about h town coming down and spending racks. I thought it was bk til I die? It's a problem when 20 somethings like ace hood or flocka make ignorant songs about about balling out but when a 49 year old rapping about poppin mollies in the club niggas wanna give him a pass. Instead of doing what a rap god does like changing the sounds and formats of the culture with a release Jay Z just showed everyone how pathetic he will make himself sound just to get attention. What kind of hip hop fan would place this in the top 5 tier of Jay Z albums? This shit don't go harder than none of the volumes or blueprints. Niggas are in here delusional about they favorite rapper running out of breath on 2 8 bar verse songs. Jay Z blacked out on a non traditional beat like Grammy family but he let the backing track of Tom ford eat him alive. Jay z was like a blind man in a Ferrari on that song. He takes 3 to 5 second pauses after ever bar. Jay Z didnt kill anything on this album. 808 style production in a summer season bailed his wack lyrics out.

 

[dontdiedontkillanyon]

Being perfectly honest, this album really isn't that good.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Like I said the album is really avg.... This is just reminiscent of how ppl go crazy over the McRib ....

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

Being perfectly honest, this album really isn't that good.

AYE GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE NIGGA

DIS SHIT GAWWBODY

 

[georgia boi]

A lot of the reviews from non-Hip Hop outlets seem to penalize Magna Carta Holy Grail because it isn't Yeezus part II. It's also the first time seeing reviews criticize a Jay Z album for being a Jay Z album. For example, this line: "A triumphant little zinger, no doubt. But what about the rest of us? When an artist self-identifies as a corporate entity, are we still Jay-Z fans? Or are we Jay-Z customers?"

^^^ It speaks volumes about some of these critics. Yes, MCGH has flaws, but statements like the one above speak more about the critic than the album and Jay Z himself. It says that these critics are just writing to write at this point. This is Jay's 12th album and this critic is questioning "are we still Jay Z fans or Jay Z customers" when Jay said he dumbed down to double his dollars on album #3. Asking a question like "are we still Jay Z fans or Jay Z customers" is just dumb at this point

 

[Nah Son]

djenvy ‏@djenvy 3h

Man..its gonna happen Jay- Z on the Breakfast Club. Will be Epic!!!! 2moro am at 7am!!!

That should be dope.

 

[georgia boi]

Why yall dropping all these yuppie media reviews I gives a fuck what these Columbia creative writing program dropouts got to say about rap albums

Tell em to stick to review Hootie and The Blowfish or some shit

A lot of times that's what these reviews read like. They seem more like an editorial about an album than a review. It's like the reviewer isn't writing for a potential buyer or listener of the album.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

A lot of the reviews from non-Hip Hop outlets seem to penalize Magna Carta Holy Grail because it isn't Yeezus part II. It's also the first time seeing reviews criticize a Jay Z album for being a Jay Z album. For example, this line: "A triumphant little zinger, no doubt. But what about the rest of us? When an artist self-identifies as a corporate entity, are we still Jay-Z fans? Or are we Jay-Z customers?"

^^^ It speaks volumes about some of these critics. Yes, MCGH has flaws, but statements like the one above speak more about the critic than the album and Jay Z himself. It says that these critics are just writing to write at this point. This is Jay's 12th album and this critic is questioning "are we still Jay Z fans or Jay Z customers" when Jay said he dumbed down to double his dollars on album #3. Asking a question like "are we still Jay Z fans or Jay Z customers" is just dumb at this point

#ConversationalPieces

....funny thing is this train of thought or logical reasoning is actually quite prevalent in your typical everyday hiphop listener

Same kind of argument ...same kind of tone

It's interesting

 

[CoolJoe]

Thats the funny thing about some people who point out Jay z lines. Yea his lines r witty, but sometimes, especially now, they're not as deep as they think. Lol So it just exposes them

They point out a rather simple line n you just look at em like 'Ngga, thats deep to you?'

@nahson I'm looking at you...sir.

Meeeehhhh nah

Problem is you can't really make a definitive statement like "it ain't really deep" or whatever the case may be because you didn't write the shit nor do you know the intent .... This is exactly why lyrics get misinterpreted all the time by niggaz swearing they know what such n such talking about

For example ..Jay explained the Miley Cyrus line on twitter ... And while its not exactly some James Baldwin esque assessment of American society it is a very keen attempt at explaing the fear in which older white culture still has in regards to black cultures deeply impactful influence

Yet niggas sittin here focusing on OMG he said "twerk" that's so "cringeworthy" ..... Whilst missing the whole fucking point of the lyrics and not realizing the sarcastic humor in him pointing out how much this hiphop shit has "turnt this American Sweetheart out" ...

But ...."nahhhhh this shit can't have any depth to it". ...you niggas sound stuuuupid tryna to analyze a Jayz lyric"

Smh.....Impoverished ass niggas

Then you are exactly the type of the dumb-smart ngga i'm refering to

I dont need Jay z, or anyone else, to spoon feed me a 'movin white girl, double entendre, get it?' soliloqy in order to get it.

I 'got it' on the first listen.

Dumb-smart ngga: Man, they just dont get it! They aint even listenin!

Me: No, dumb-smart ngga. I overstand the line, and i'm telling you it wasnt a) hard to get in the first place, or b) really that damn deep

Regardless it was a good line, which you called cringe worthy, which is bullshit.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

djenvy ‏@djenvy 3h

Man..its gonna happen Jay- Z on the Breakfast Club. Will be Epic!!!! 2moro am at 7am!!!

That should be dope.

Didn't Jay Z get this nigga Charlamagne fired after the whole Beanie Sigel fiasco?

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Yessir!

 

[Nah Son]

djenvy ‏@djenvy 3h

Man..its gonna happen Jay- Z on the Breakfast Club. Will be Epic!!!! 2moro am at 7am!!!

That should be dope.

Didn't Jay Z get this nigga Charlamagne fired after the whole Beanie Sigel fiasco?

That was the rumour back then but I'm callin bullshit

 

[eastbay510]

Damn the physical copy is $16 bucks?

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

djenvy ‏@djenvy 3h

Man..its gonna happen Jay- Z on the Breakfast Club. Will be Epic!!!! 2moro am at 7am!!!

That should be dope.

Didn't Jay Z get this nigga Charlamagne fired after the whole Beanie Sigel fiasco?

That was the rumour back then but I'm callin bullshit

Hopefully they address it tomorrow

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Damn the physical copy is $16 bucks?

I said the same exact thing. Its big like a deluxe copy of a CD tho.

And you can scratch the black blocks off some of the pages & lyrics are revealed.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

A lot of the reviews from non-Hip Hop outlets seem to penalize Magna Carta Holy Grail because it isn't Yeezus part II. It's also the first time seeing reviews criticize a Jay Z album for being a Jay Z album. For example, this line: "A triumphant little zinger, no doubt. But what about the rest of us? When an artist self-identifies as a corporate entity, are we still Jay-Z fans? Or are we Jay-Z customers?"

^^^ It speaks volumes about some of these critics. Yes, MCGH has flaws, but statements like the one above speak more about the critic than the album and Jay Z himself. It says that these critics are just writing to write at this point. This is Jay's 12th album and this critic is questioning "are we still Jay Z fans or Jay Z customers" when Jay said he dumbed down to double his dollars on album #3. Asking a question like "are we still Jay Z fans or Jay Z customers" is just dumb at this point

#ConversationalPieces

....funny thing is this train of thought or logical reasoning is actually quite prevalent in your typical everyday hiphop listener

Same kind of argument ...same kind of tone

It's interesting

I agree.. And I have been very careful about this.. DJ Chubby Chub is from my neighborhood.. For those that don't know he is a part of the group Original Flavor.. With Ski Beatz and Tone Hooker.. My introduction to Jay Z was back in 94 on the song Can I get Open.. Been a fan of Jay since then. He, Biggie, Nas, and Big L were my favorite rappers at the time.

The so called Euro Jay that we have been hearing on the last couple of albums I havent been a fan of. The last album I enjoyed form Jay was probably the Black Album.. And that one to me was just okay.. I do remember bumpin PSA on repeat when the album first dropped.

I say all that to say this.. I know what originally made me fall in love with the guy as an artist.. Lyrically niggaz wasnt seeing him.. But he also had hard beats.. This album brought me back to that.. Listening to this album I got the same vibe I got back in 98 when Vol. 2 dropped. This is a official Hov album.. And I guess we had to go through Euro Jay to get to where we are now..

One thing is for sure.. He aint gonna get on a track and feed me bullshit and im gonna buy it.. If he comes hard like he did on this album I will always support. Also.. The folks that dont like this album aren't really day 1 Jay fans to me. They appreciate the brand more than the artist.. If you been riding with Jay since before he dropped an album.. There is no way u can't fuck with this.. This is Jay at his best..

Oceans is such a profound track.. That hood is MONEY!.

FactsOnly.

Ha