Jay-Z Almost Ended 2 pac's Career: DJ Clark Kent Reveals Jay-Z Recorded A 2Pac Diss

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kingofkingz;8290496 said:
We need a poll made who thinks ether is better than takeover

Jay should've easily been able to end nas career after takeover but that obviously didn't happen

I just think Jay was too successful and bullish to win that battle...he had the LBJ syndrome he won so much niggas wanted him taken down.i was rooting for steph and golden state in the finals because I just didn't want to see LBJ win,I felt like steph is good and needed the shine......the people's vote doesn't necessarily mean the guy the voted for is the better person.. The people voted George bush in twice was he the better leader than his opponents?
 
_God_;8290622 said:
Turfaholic;8290206 said:
_God_;8290097 said:
Turfaholic;8289873 said:
I just wanna say.....

I didn't know who Jay-Z was til Hardknock Life

Your most likely not in an area important to hip hop then

False we got BET and MTV just like everybody else. Gasp even radio too. I think I can speak for almost everybody on the westcoast when I say Jay-Z was pretty unknown til he went pop with Hardknock Life.

Bet mtv and radio are the absolute last channel that hip hop reaches you serious, he said bet and mtv lol, you wasn't into rap then bc in 96, can't knock the hustle video was running in every station, In 97, when that movie sprung dropped (movie did well) who had the the soundtrack song ? That video was playin enough for u to catch it. And in New York (the biggest part of hip hop) jay was getting love and it wasn't like now , you actually use to have to work your way up smh

Jay-Z and Rocafella weren't major players on a national level til a awkward space was created due to the deaths of Biggie and Pac. Check the stats. Jay-Z wasn't a factor til around "Feeling It", "Hardknock Life", and "Can I Get A". And look at the dates those came out.
 
texasdaking88;8290614 said:
themadlionsfan;8290603 said:
murdap;8288096 said:
90's Music West >>>>>East

00's Music South>>>>>East

Now that i think bout it the only time Ny was buzzing with hip hop was when Pac died and that was only for a few years. East Coast had the shortest reign on top of rap of all the regions except of wack ass Midwest hip hop

This is one of the dumbest posters in the thread.

Fixed for you

Appreciate it.....

 
Turfaholic;8290670 said:
_God_;8290622 said:
Turfaholic;8290206 said:
_God_;8290097 said:
Turfaholic;8289873 said:
I just wanna say.....

I didn't know who Jay-Z was til Hardknock Life

Your most likely not in an area important to hip hop then

False we got BET and MTV just like everybody else. Gasp even radio too. I think I can speak for almost everybody on the westcoast when I say Jay-Z was pretty unknown til he went pop with Hardknock Life.

Bet mtv and radio are the absolute last channel that hip hop reaches you serious, he said bet and mtv lol, you wasn't into rap then bc in 96, can't knock the hustle video was running in every station, In 97, when that movie sprung dropped (movie did well) who had the the soundtrack song ? That video was playin enough for u to catch it. And in New York (the biggest part of hip hop) jay was getting love and it wasn't like now , you actually use to have to work your way up smh

Jay-Z and Rocafella weren't major players on a national level til a awkward space was created due to the deaths of Biggie and Pac. Check the stats. Jay-Z wasn't a factor til around "Feeling It", "Hardknock Life", and "Can I Get A". And look at the dates those came out.

I'm not understanding where you're going with the post. Hard Knock Life was his biggest hit in 98, but you act as if only Biggie and Pac were making hits. Which is a lot of revisionist history and completely false.
 
murdap;8290659 said:
"And i dont wear jerseys im 30 plus give me fresh pair of jeans nigga button ups" jayz

Hov the reason these young boys wearing skinny jeans and fag shirts. Bring back the jerseys and do rags this new generation look sweeter than a bag of sugar and its all jay fault with that garbage line he changed mens fashion as we know it

"Can't wear skinny jeans cuz my knots don't fit"

go sit your ass in a corner with a dunce cap and make sure you strap on a helmet, you window licker

Dunce-cap-in-corner-250x279.jpg
 
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themadlionsfan;8290685 said:
Turfaholic;8290670 said:
_God_;8290622 said:
Turfaholic;8290206 said:
_God_;8290097 said:
Turfaholic;8289873 said:
I just wanna say.....

I didn't know who Jay-Z was til Hardknock Life

Your most likely not in an area important to hip hop then

False we got BET and MTV just like everybody else. Gasp even radio too. I think I can speak for almost everybody on the westcoast when I say Jay-Z was pretty unknown til he went pop with Hardknock Life.

Bet mtv and radio are the absolute last channel that hip hop reaches you serious, he said bet and mtv lol, you wasn't into rap then bc in 96, can't knock the hustle video was running in every station, In 97, when that movie sprung dropped (movie did well) who had the the soundtrack song ? That video was playin enough for u to catch it. And in New York (the biggest part of hip hop) jay was getting love and it wasn't like now , you actually use to have to work your way up smh

Jay-Z and Rocafella weren't major players on a national level til a awkward space was created due to the deaths of Biggie and Pac. Check the stats. Jay-Z wasn't a factor til around "Feeling It", "Hardknock Life", and "Can I Get A". And look at the dates those came out.

I'm not understanding where you're going with the post. Hard Knock Life was his biggest hit in 98, but you act as if only Biggie and Pac were making hits. Which is a lot of revisionist history and completely false.

Okay.

Show me a Jay-Z song that got spins across the country while 2Pac was alive.
 
Turfaholic;8290690 said:
themadlionsfan;8290685 said:
Turfaholic;8290670 said:
_God_;8290622 said:
Turfaholic;8290206 said:
_God_;8290097 said:
Turfaholic;8289873 said:
I just wanna say.....

I didn't know who Jay-Z was til Hardknock Life

Your most likely not in an area important to hip hop then

False we got BET and MTV just like everybody else. Gasp even radio too. I think I can speak for almost everybody on the westcoast when I say Jay-Z was pretty unknown til he went pop with Hardknock Life.

Bet mtv and radio are the absolute last channel that hip hop reaches you serious, he said bet and mtv lol, you wasn't into rap then bc in 96, can't knock the hustle video was running in every station, In 97, when that movie sprung dropped (movie did well) who had the the soundtrack song ? That video was playin enough for u to catch it. And in New York (the biggest part of hip hop) jay was getting love and it wasn't like now , you actually use to have to work your way up smh

Jay-Z and Rocafella weren't major players on a national level til a awkward space was created due to the deaths of Biggie and Pac. Check the stats. Jay-Z wasn't a factor til around "Feeling It", "Hardknock Life", and "Can I Get A". And look at the dates those came out.

I'm not understanding where you're going with the post. Hard Knock Life was his biggest hit in 98, but you act as if only Biggie and Pac were making hits. Which is a lot of revisionist history and completely false.

Okay.

Show me a Jay-Z song that got spins across the country while 2Pac was alive.

He died in 96 and Jay Z's debut album was in 96 and his album went gold. Also "Ain't No Nigga" got plenty spins and it wasn't only the single off of Jay's album it was one of the singles off the Nutty Professor soundtrack. Was he a huge star then? No. But he wasn't a complete nobody like some of you are trying to portray. I didn't start listening/following Hip Hop in the early 2000s bruh. Alot of the shit being posted in here his revisionist history skewed facts.
 
themadlionsfan;8290689 said:
murdap;8290659 said:
"And i dont wear jerseys im 30 plus give me fresh pair of jeans nigga button ups" jayz

Hov the reason these young boys wearing skinny jeans and fag shirts. Bring back the jerseys and do rags this new generation look sweeter than a bag of sugar and its all jay fault with that garbage line he changed mens fashion as we know it

"Can't wear skinny jeans cuz my knots don't fit"

go sit your ass in a corner with a dunce cap and make sure you strap on a helmet, you window licker

Dunce-cap-in-corner-250x279.jpg

Window licker? Seriously bruh out of all the words in the dictionary and thesaurus you come up with that. With insults like that there you are:

A. Foreigner

B. Pale face cracker

C. Lame duck

D. All of the above

Im going with D
 
murdap;8290730 said:
themadlionsfan;8290689 said:
murdap;8290659 said:
"And i dont wear jerseys im 30 plus give me fresh pair of jeans nigga button ups" jayz

Hov the reason these young boys wearing skinny jeans and fag shirts. Bring back the jerseys and do rags this new generation look sweeter than a bag of sugar and its all jay fault with that garbage line he changed mens fashion as we know it

"Can't wear skinny jeans cuz my knots don't fit"

go sit your ass in a corner with a dunce cap and make sure you strap on a helmet, you window licker

Dunce-cap-in-corner-250x279.jpg

Window licker? Seriously bruh out of all the words in the dictionary and thesaurus you come up with that. With insults like that there you are:

A. Foreigner

B. Pale face cracker

C. Lame duck

D. All of the above

Im going with D

Nope, A simple black man from Detroit. Window lickers were those retarted kids who rode the short bus with their face pressed against the glass. You fit the bill.
 
themadlionsfan;8290735 said:
murdap;8290730 said:
themadlionsfan;8290689 said:
murdap;8290659 said:
"And i dont wear jerseys im 30 plus give me fresh pair of jeans nigga button ups" jayz

Hov the reason these young boys wearing skinny jeans and fag shirts. Bring back the jerseys and do rags this new generation look sweeter than a bag of sugar and its all jay fault with that garbage line he changed mens fashion as we know it

"Can't wear skinny jeans cuz my knots don't fit"

go sit your ass in a corner with a dunce cap and make sure you strap on a helmet, you window licker

Dunce-cap-in-corner-250x279.jpg

Window licker? Seriously bruh out of all the words in the dictionary and thesaurus you come up with that. With insults like that there you are:

A. Foreigner

B. Pale face cracker

C. Lame duck

D. All of the above

Im going with D

Nope, A simple black man from Detroit. Window lickers were those retarted kids who rode the short bus with their face pressed against the glass. You fit the bill.

Detroit is a bankrupt city if it wasnt for Obamas auto bailout The D would be a ghost town i aint gone say nothing bout your mans Kwame Kilpatrick?
 
themadlionsfan;8290698 said:
Turfaholic;8290690 said:
themadlionsfan;8290685 said:
Turfaholic;8290670 said:
_God_;8290622 said:
Turfaholic;8290206 said:
_God_;8290097 said:
Turfaholic;8289873 said:
I just wanna say.....

I didn't know who Jay-Z was til Hardknock Life

Your most likely not in an area important to hip hop then

False we got BET and MTV just like everybody else. Gasp even radio too. I think I can speak for almost everybody on the westcoast when I say Jay-Z was pretty unknown til he went pop with Hardknock Life.

Bet mtv and radio are the absolute last channel that hip hop reaches you serious, he said bet and mtv lol, you wasn't into rap then bc in 96, can't knock the hustle video was running in every station, In 97, when that movie sprung dropped (movie did well) who had the the soundtrack song ? That video was playin enough for u to catch it. And in New York (the biggest part of hip hop) jay was getting love and it wasn't like now , you actually use to have to work your way up smh

Jay-Z and Rocafella weren't major players on a national level til a awkward space was created due to the deaths of Biggie and Pac. Check the stats. Jay-Z wasn't a factor til around "Feeling It", "Hardknock Life", and "Can I Get A". And look at the dates those came out.

I'm not understanding where you're going with the post. Hard Knock Life was his biggest hit in 98, but you act as if only Biggie and Pac were making hits. Which is a lot of revisionist history and completely false.

Okay.

Show me a Jay-Z song that got spins across the country while 2Pac was alive.

He died in 96 and Jay Z's debut album was in 96 and his album went gold. Also "Ain't No Nigga" got plenty spins and it wasn't only the single off of Jay's album it was one of the singles off the Nutty Professor soundtrack. Was he a huge star then? No. But he wasn't a complete nobody like some of you are trying to portray. I didn't start listening/following Hip Hop in the early 2000s bruh. Alot of the shit being posted in here his revisionist history skewed facts.

False bro

Mobb Deep had more clout than J

Nas had more clout than J

Method Man had more clout than J

Hell even ODB had more clout than J

I wouldn't go as far as to say he was a nobody, but if it wasn't for living in the east coast media capital, he wouldn't have been much of a factor to the genre in the mid 90's. Pac didn't even go ham on Jay-Z that much besides a basic "Fuck Jay-Z" and a Hawaii Sophie reference. Da Brat and Lil Kim took harder shots from Pac during that time. It took Reasonable Doubt six years to go platinum. That's 2002. That's when Rocafella as a whole was running the game. That's right when he really started becoming "Jigga that nigga". No diss or discredit, but Reasonable Doubt was a regional classic until Jay-Z really got popping and his new fans wanted to go back to his roots.
 
Turfaholic;8290757 said:
themadlionsfan;8290698 said:
Turfaholic;8290690 said:
themadlionsfan;8290685 said:
Turfaholic;8290670 said:
_God_;8290622 said:
Turfaholic;8290206 said:
_God_;8290097 said:
Turfaholic;8289873 said:
I just wanna say.....

I didn't know who Jay-Z was til Hardknock Life

Your most likely not in an area important to hip hop then

False we got BET and MTV just like everybody else. Gasp even radio too. I think I can speak for almost everybody on the westcoast when I say Jay-Z was pretty unknown til he went pop with Hardknock Life.

Bet mtv and radio are the absolute last channel that hip hop reaches you serious, he said bet and mtv lol, you wasn't into rap then bc in 96, can't knock the hustle video was running in every station, In 97, when that movie sprung dropped (movie did well) who had the the soundtrack song ? That video was playin enough for u to catch it. And in New York (the biggest part of hip hop) jay was getting love and it wasn't like now , you actually use to have to work your way up smh

Jay-Z and Rocafella weren't major players on a national level til a awkward space was created due to the deaths of Biggie and Pac. Check the stats. Jay-Z wasn't a factor til around "Feeling It", "Hardknock Life", and "Can I Get A". And look at the dates those came out.

I'm not understanding where you're going with the post. Hard Knock Life was his biggest hit in 98, but you act as if only Biggie and Pac were making hits. Which is a lot of revisionist history and completely false.

Okay.

Show me a Jay-Z song that got spins across the country while 2Pac was alive.

He died in 96 and Jay Z's debut album was in 96 and his album went gold. Also "Ain't No Nigga" got plenty spins and it wasn't only the single off of Jay's album it was one of the singles off the Nutty Professor soundtrack. Was he a huge star then? No. But he wasn't a complete nobody like some of you are trying to portray. I didn't start listening/following Hip Hop in the early 2000s bruh. Alot of the shit being posted in here his revisionist history skewed facts.

False bro

Mobb Deep had more clout than J

Nas had more clout than J

Method Man had more clout than J

Hell even ODB had more clout than J

I wouldn't go as far as to say he was a nobody, but if it wasn't for living in the east coast media capital, he wouldn't have been much of a factor to the genre in the mid 90's. Pac didn't even go ham on Jay-Z that much besides a basic "Fuck Jay-Z" and a Hawaii Sophie reference. Da Brat and Lil Kim took harder shots from Pac during that time. It took Reasonable Doubt six years to go platinum. That's 2002. That's when Rocafella as a whole was running the game. That's right when he really started becoming "Jigga that nigga". No diss or discredit, but Reasonable Doubt was a regional classic until Jay-Z really got popping and his new fans wanted to go back to his roots.

Regardless, Jay Z is infinitely more successful than 2Pac.
 
Turfaholic;8290757 said:
themadlionsfan;8290698 said:
Turfaholic;8290690 said:
themadlionsfan;8290685 said:
Turfaholic;8290670 said:
_God_;8290622 said:
Turfaholic;8290206 said:
_God_;8290097 said:
Turfaholic;8289873 said:
I just wanna say.....

I didn't know who Jay-Z was til Hardknock Life

Your most likely not in an area important to hip hop then

False we got BET and MTV just like everybody else. Gasp even radio too. I think I can speak for almost everybody on the westcoast when I say Jay-Z was pretty unknown til he went pop with Hardknock Life.

Bet mtv and radio are the absolute last channel that hip hop reaches you serious, he said bet and mtv lol, you wasn't into rap then bc in 96, can't knock the hustle video was running in every station, In 97, when that movie sprung dropped (movie did well) who had the the soundtrack song ? That video was playin enough for u to catch it. And in New York (the biggest part of hip hop) jay was getting love and it wasn't like now , you actually use to have to work your way up smh

Jay-Z and Rocafella weren't major players on a national level til a awkward space was created due to the deaths of Biggie and Pac. Check the stats. Jay-Z wasn't a factor til around "Feeling It", "Hardknock Life", and "Can I Get A". And look at the dates those came out.

I'm not understanding where you're going with the post. Hard Knock Life was his biggest hit in 98, but you act as if only Biggie and Pac were making hits. Which is a lot of revisionist history and completely false.

Okay.

Show me a Jay-Z song that got spins across the country while 2Pac was alive.

He died in 96 and Jay Z's debut album was in 96 and his album went gold. Also "Ain't No Nigga" got plenty spins and it wasn't only the single off of Jay's album it was one of the singles off the Nutty Professor soundtrack. Was he a huge star then? No. But he wasn't a complete nobody like some of you are trying to portray. I didn't start listening/following Hip Hop in the early 2000s bruh. Alot of the shit being posted in here his revisionist history skewed facts.

False bro

Mobb Deep had more clout than J

Nas had more clout than J

Method Man had more clout than J

Hell even ODB had more clout than J

I wouldn't go as far as to say he was a nobody, but if it wasn't for living in the east coast media capital, he wouldn't have been much of a factor to the genre in the mid 90's. Pac didn't even go ham on Jay-Z that much besides a basic "Fuck Jay-Z" and a Hawaii Sophie reference. Da Brat and Lil Kim took harder shots from Pac during that time. It took Reasonable Doubt six years to go platinum. That's 2002. That's when Rocafella as a whole was running the game. That's right when he really started becoming "Jigga that nigga". No diss or discredit, but Reasonable Doubt was a regional classic until Jay-Z really got popping and his new fans wanted to go back to his roots.

Umm, I'm not sure where your going with this post. You asked me to tell you a song that got spins while Pac was alive and I gave you one. I already said Jay Z wasn't as big as the other acts and that he wasn't a relatively unknown either. 2002 may have been a peek year for The Roc, but it damn sure wasn't a peek year for Jay as an artist. His peak year was 98 when Hard Knock Life sold 5 million. He hasn't eclisped that mark yet. Also Vol. 1 went platium, so that represents a growth from in fanbase from 96 to 97. I also said Reasonable Doubt only went gold, I'm not sure why you brought up the fact it took six years to go platinum.
 
5 Grand;8290806 said:
Turfaholic;8290757 said:
themadlionsfan;8290698 said:
Turfaholic;8290690 said:
themadlionsfan;8290685 said:
Turfaholic;8290670 said:
_God_;8290622 said:
Turfaholic;8290206 said:
_God_;8290097 said:
Turfaholic;8289873 said:
I just wanna say.....

I didn't know who Jay-Z was til Hardknock Life

Your most likely not in an area important to hip hop then

False we got BET and MTV just like everybody else. Gasp even radio too. I think I can speak for almost everybody on the westcoast when I say Jay-Z was pretty unknown til he went pop with Hardknock Life.

Bet mtv and radio are the absolute last channel that hip hop reaches you serious, he said bet and mtv lol, you wasn't into rap then bc in 96, can't knock the hustle video was running in every station, In 97, when that movie sprung dropped (movie did well) who had the the soundtrack song ? That video was playin enough for u to catch it. And in New York (the biggest part of hip hop) jay was getting love and it wasn't like now , you actually use to have to work your way up smh

Jay-Z and Rocafella weren't major players on a national level til a awkward space was created due to the deaths of Biggie and Pac. Check the stats. Jay-Z wasn't a factor til around "Feeling It", "Hardknock Life", and "Can I Get A". And look at the dates those came out.

I'm not understanding where you're going with the post. Hard Knock Life was his biggest hit in 98, but you act as if only Biggie and Pac were making hits. Which is a lot of revisionist history and completely false.

Okay.

Show me a Jay-Z song that got spins across the country while 2Pac was alive.

He died in 96 and Jay Z's debut album was in 96 and his album went gold. Also "Ain't No Nigga" got plenty spins and it wasn't only the single off of Jay's album it was one of the singles off the Nutty Professor soundtrack. Was he a huge star then? No. But he wasn't a complete nobody like some of you are trying to portray. I didn't start listening/following Hip Hop in the early 2000s bruh. Alot of the shit being posted in here his revisionist history skewed facts.

False bro

Mobb Deep had more clout than J

Nas had more clout than J

Method Man had more clout than J

Hell even ODB had more clout than J

I wouldn't go as far as to say he was a nobody, but if it wasn't for living in the east coast media capital, he wouldn't have been much of a factor to the genre in the mid 90's. Pac didn't even go ham on Jay-Z that much besides a basic "Fuck Jay-Z" and a Hawaii Sophie reference. Da Brat and Lil Kim took harder shots from Pac during that time. It took Reasonable Doubt six years to go platinum. That's 2002. That's when Rocafella as a whole was running the game. That's right when he really started becoming "Jigga that nigga". No diss or discredit, but Reasonable Doubt was a regional classic until Jay-Z really got popping and his new fans wanted to go back to his roots.

Regardless, Jay Z is infinitely more successful than 2Pac.

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Bruh you really want to have this convo?
 
5 Grand;8290806 said:
Turfaholic;8290757 said:
themadlionsfan;8290698 said:
Turfaholic;8290690 said:
themadlionsfan;8290685 said:
Turfaholic;8290670 said:
_God_;8290622 said:
Turfaholic;8290206 said:
_God_;8290097 said:
Turfaholic;8289873 said:
I just wanna say.....

I didn't know who Jay-Z was til Hardknock Life

Your most likely not in an area important to hip hop then

False we got BET and MTV just like everybody else. Gasp even radio too. I think I can speak for almost everybody on the westcoast when I say Jay-Z was pretty unknown til he went pop with Hardknock Life.

Bet mtv and radio are the absolute last channel that hip hop reaches you serious, he said bet and mtv lol, you wasn't into rap then bc in 96, can't knock the hustle video was running in every station, In 97, when that movie sprung dropped (movie did well) who had the the soundtrack song ? That video was playin enough for u to catch it. And in New York (the biggest part of hip hop) jay was getting love and it wasn't like now , you actually use to have to work your way up smh

Jay-Z and Rocafella weren't major players on a national level til a awkward space was created due to the deaths of Biggie and Pac. Check the stats. Jay-Z wasn't a factor til around "Feeling It", "Hardknock Life", and "Can I Get A". And look at the dates those came out.

I'm not understanding where you're going with the post. Hard Knock Life was his biggest hit in 98, but you act as if only Biggie and Pac were making hits. Which is a lot of revisionist history and completely false.

Okay.

Show me a Jay-Z song that got spins across the country while 2Pac was alive.

He died in 96 and Jay Z's debut album was in 96 and his album went gold. Also "Ain't No Nigga" got plenty spins and it wasn't only the single off of Jay's album it was one of the singles off the Nutty Professor soundtrack. Was he a huge star then? No. But he wasn't a complete nobody like some of you are trying to portray. I didn't start listening/following Hip Hop in the early 2000s bruh. Alot of the shit being posted in here his revisionist history skewed facts.

False bro

Mobb Deep had more clout than J

Nas had more clout than J

Method Man had more clout than J

Hell even ODB had more clout than J

I wouldn't go as far as to say he was a nobody, but if it wasn't for living in the east coast media capital, he wouldn't have been much of a factor to the genre in the mid 90's. Pac didn't even go ham on Jay-Z that much besides a basic "Fuck Jay-Z" and a Hawaii Sophie reference. Da Brat and Lil Kim took harder shots from Pac during that time. It took Reasonable Doubt six years to go platinum. That's 2002. That's when Rocafella as a whole was running the game. That's right when he really started becoming "Jigga that nigga". No diss or discredit, but Reasonable Doubt was a regional classic until Jay-Z really got popping and his new fans wanted to go back to his roots.

Regardless, Jay Z is infinitely more successful than 2Pac.

Pac is dead man, jay is still alive & accomplishing things

 
themadlionsfan;8290811 said:
Turfaholic;8290757 said:
themadlionsfan;8290698 said:
Turfaholic;8290690 said:
themadlionsfan;8290685 said:
Turfaholic;8290670 said:
_God_;8290622 said:
Turfaholic;8290206 said:
_God_;8290097 said:
Turfaholic;8289873 said:
I just wanna say.....

I didn't know who Jay-Z was til Hardknock Life

Your most likely not in an area important to hip hop then

False we got BET and MTV just like everybody else. Gasp even radio too. I think I can speak for almost everybody on the westcoast when I say Jay-Z was pretty unknown til he went pop with Hardknock Life.

Bet mtv and radio are the absolute last channel that hip hop reaches you serious, he said bet and mtv lol, you wasn't into rap then bc in 96, can't knock the hustle video was running in every station, In 97, when that movie sprung dropped (movie did well) who had the the soundtrack song ? That video was playin enough for u to catch it. And in New York (the biggest part of hip hop) jay was getting love and it wasn't like now , you actually use to have to work your way up smh

Jay-Z and Rocafella weren't major players on a national level til a awkward space was created due to the deaths of Biggie and Pac. Check the stats. Jay-Z wasn't a factor til around "Feeling It", "Hardknock Life", and "Can I Get A". And look at the dates those came out.

I'm not understanding where you're going with the post. Hard Knock Life was his biggest hit in 98, but you act as if only Biggie and Pac were making hits. Which is a lot of revisionist history and completely false.

Okay.

Show me a Jay-Z song that got spins across the country while 2Pac was alive.

He died in 96 and Jay Z's debut album was in 96 and his album went gold. Also "Ain't No Nigga" got plenty spins and it wasn't only the single off of Jay's album it was one of the singles off the Nutty Professor soundtrack. Was he a huge star then? No. But he wasn't a complete nobody like some of you are trying to portray. I didn't start listening/following Hip Hop in the early 2000s bruh. Alot of the shit being posted in here his revisionist history skewed facts.

False bro

Mobb Deep had more clout than J

Nas had more clout than J

Method Man had more clout than J

Hell even ODB had more clout than J

I wouldn't go as far as to say he was a nobody, but if it wasn't for living in the east coast media capital, he wouldn't have been much of a factor to the genre in the mid 90's. Pac didn't even go ham on Jay-Z that much besides a basic "Fuck Jay-Z" and a Hawaii Sophie reference. Da Brat and Lil Kim took harder shots from Pac during that time. It took Reasonable Doubt six years to go platinum. That's 2002. That's when Rocafella as a whole was running the game. That's right when he really started becoming "Jigga that nigga". No diss or discredit, but Reasonable Doubt was a regional classic until Jay-Z really got popping and his new fans wanted to go back to his roots.

Umm, I'm not sure where your going with this post. You asked me to tell you a song that got spins while Pac was alive and I gave you one. I already said Jay Z wasn't as big as the other acts and that he wasn't a relatively unknown either. 2002 may have been a peek year for The Roc, but it damn sure wasn't a peek year for Jay as an artist. His peak year was 98 when Hard Knock Life sold 5 million. He hasn't eclisped that mark yet. Also Vol. 1 went platium, so that represents a growth from in fanbase from 96 to 97. I also said Reasonable Doubt only went gold, I'm not sure why you brought up the fact it took six years to go platinum.

I gotta meeting to go to. Ima eat this post for lunch. Lol @ Hov peeking in 98.

 
I'm a huge Jay Z fan and to me this is b.s. Let's be objective here.

Clark telling me the nigga 2pac who had a whole coast following him, a nigga who had damn near every east coast artist coming at him with some decent disses would have been taken down by the artist Jay z who really didn't get traction until around '98, would have taken 2pac down? Really my nigga! Doesn't matter how more lyrical Jay z was, cause 2pac had way more momentual, passion, and clout in the game at that time to brush off whatever lyrical diss Jay z would have thrown his way.

Then the only justification was "we performed it in some east coast club spot and they loved it"

Nigga!!!!!

Of course they would! He's performing a diss song on his turf against a audience who was repping their coast. They would have supported any east coast rapper going at Pac then.

Also if the diss he's talking about is that one release three years ago, can someone please point out the career ending verse, cause I didn't hear it.

Lastly if the shit was that lethal, it would have spread like wildfire, even if it was performed one time cause that's all it takes. Again I'm a Jay z fan all the way, yet I'm objective to know that during that time he couldn't fuck with Pac career period. Niggas confusing lyrics with momentual and hits.
 
Niggas love to take shit too literally.the only mufuckas to take that statement seriously are on the ic. Niggas be like "Pac served the whole east" Pac Stan to the rescue

" fuck outta here Pac never worked as a waiter"

 
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Why is niggas in here debating some shit that NOBODY has said???? Dudes getting all in the Jay hate feelings over thinking ppl are saying Jay could end PACs career when literally nobody has said or argued that he could.... And again anybody who thinks Jay even at his 96 stage in his career could have dropped a diss basically exposing and clowning pac and the shit wouldn't have done nothing and nobody would have paid it any mind was either not born in 96 or was playing with transformers toys becuz to have a east coast rapper at the height of the beef come out and lyrically go back at the bully and it be fire would have been huge
 
The wack ass diss record that featured Sauce Money is called Dead or Alive, shit has been leaked for years now.

Funny how Jay did Me and My Girlfriend and Nas used the Fuck Jay-Z line from Let's Be Friends on Ether Lol.
 

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