Is it fair to say that the gods or our higher power is lazy? Or just incapable?

[kingblaze84]

Haven't heard of our higher power being referred to as a female in awhile, anything is possible

 

[MistyKnight]

Haven't heard of our higher power being referred to as a female in awhile, anything is possible

God is a black woman. Gotta be.

We are the most resilient, strong, powerful, intelligent class. If anyone really knows black women they can see that we are always the creators of new trends thus making us natural leaders. And when our ideas are stolen, we are always able to invent new better ones.

Then again, this is another topic for another day.

 

[kingblaze84]

Haven't heard of our higher power being referred to as a female in awhile, anything is possible

God is a black woman. Gotta be.

We are the most resilient, strong, powerful, intelligent class. If anyone really knows black women they can see that we are always the creators of new trends thus making us natural leaders. And when our ideas are stolen, we are always able to invent new better ones.

Then again, this is another topic for another day.

The first people on Earth were Black African, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. We definitely are the most resilient and strong, as I've always said.

The Black Madonna is still cherished in European countries and since a Black woman gave birth to humanity, who knows, maybe you're right. That would be really interesting.

 

[kingblaze84]

As far as intelligence, the Asians might win on that one lol.....I'm just joking

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i need to come back an read this

 

[kingblaze84]

I was reading a book on Christopher Columbus the other night, and it really struck me how evil seems to win most of the time. Many say good wins in the end, but how can we say that when it seems evil oppressors such as Columbus and the British Empire get so much of what they want? And their ancestors got rich off the same behavior for hundreds of years lol.....The universe shrugged when Native Americans were slaughtered and committed mass suicides when hopelessness won over, just as it did when the Tasmanians gave up hope against the evil British colonialists and died out.

I agree with many here that whatever god or higher power out there likely stopped caring, but it's a really creepy thing about this world in that evil behavior seems to be rewarded so much and so OFTEN. In a predator vs prey world, the most violent and brutal usually win, while the mostly peaceful seem to be victimized over and over again. What does that say about the creators of this world? An unsettling thought for me.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

As many here may already know, I'm not religious, but I tend to believe there is some kind of higher power out there. Lately, I haven't discussed religion with much people because I consider religion to be something of a scam and it seems more and more people are realizing this, but I remain very open to there being some kind of god or higher power out there. I have flirted with all out atheism before and at times still do, but I can't get around the fact that there seems to be SOME kind of design in the world. As flawed as much of it is......

With that being said, my mom is a nurse and takes care of special needs children. What made me create this thread is that she is now taking care of a 5 year old girl who not only has autism, she was born with a hole in her throat, born a dwarf, cannot speak, and is partially deaf. She needs an oxygen tank at all times. The mother of the girl is a healthy woman who seems responsible, and ironically is somewhat religious. So how the hell does a religious woman give birth to a baby born with all these deformities?

For those who firmly believe or at least think there is a god/higher power, is it safe to say that god/the gods are somewhat lazy? Thousands, maybe millions of babies are born with deformities every year, and while I hear some say god doesn't make mistakes, that clearly isn't the case. Or maybe my expectations of a god are too high? It just seems weird that our "god" can make so many mistakes in life.

Why is it that you feel that a higher power must make it so there is no negativity in the lives of lower beings? Compared to insects, we are a higher power. Do we go around trying to solve all the problems that insects face?

 

[kingblaze84]

As many here may already know, I'm not religious, but I tend to believe there is some kind of higher power out there. Lately, I haven't discussed religion with much people because I consider religion to be something of a scam and it seems more and more people are realizing this, but I remain very open to there being some kind of god or higher power out there. I have flirted with all out atheism before and at times still do, but I can't get around the fact that there seems to be SOME kind of design in the world. As flawed as much of it is......

With that being said, my mom is a nurse and takes care of special needs children. What made me create this thread is that she is now taking care of a 5 year old girl who not only has autism, she was born with a hole in her throat, born a dwarf, cannot speak, and is partially deaf. She needs an oxygen tank at all times. The mother of the girl is a healthy woman who seems responsible, and ironically is somewhat religious. So how the hell does a religious woman give birth to a baby born with all these deformities?

For those who firmly believe or at least think there is a god/higher power, is it safe to say that god/the gods are somewhat lazy? Thousands, maybe millions of babies are born with deformities every year, and while I hear some say god doesn't make mistakes, that clearly isn't the case. Or maybe my expectations of a god are too high? It just seems weird that our "god" can make so many mistakes in life.

Why is it that you feel that a higher power must make it so there is no negativity in the lives of lower beings? Compared to insects, we are a higher power. Do we go around trying to solve all the problems that insects face?

Well humans didn't create the world, did we? Yeah we pretty much have mastery over every insect and animal on Earth (for the most part), but we didn't create Earth, I'm speaking of powers higher then us that made the world. I know some think the world was created by accident (Big Bang Theory) and who knows maybe that's true, but assuming a god or higher power made us and the world, yeah I think some would think that whatever made us would create a less hostile world. Or maybe we're just ants in a sandbox in some kind of weird experiment, which seems likely at this point.

I feel blessed in many ways, but I know that too many out there got it really bad, the cases out there in the medical world are pretty horrifying. But don't misunderstand me, I don't expect much of any god out there anymore, that ship has long sailed.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Evil isn't rewarded it's just the easier path so many walk it.

 

[kingblaze84]

Evil isn't rewarded it's just the easier path so many walk it.

Evil isn't rewarded throughout history? As if the British Empire and others didn't get fantastically rich off oppression and stealing from other people? The Spanish Empire made a total fortune after obliterating the Native Americans, and this seems to happen over and over again throughout history.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

As many here may already know, I'm not religious, but I tend to believe there is some kind of higher power out there. Lately, I haven't discussed religion with much people because I consider religion to be something of a scam and it seems more and more people are realizing this, but I remain very open to there being some kind of god or higher power out there. I have flirted with all out atheism before and at times still do, but I can't get around the fact that there seems to be SOME kind of design in the world. As flawed as much of it is......

With that being said, my mom is a nurse and takes care of special needs children. What made me create this thread is that she is now taking care of a 5 year old girl who not only has autism, she was born with a hole in her throat, born a dwarf, cannot speak, and is partially deaf. She needs an oxygen tank at all times. The mother of the girl is a healthy woman who seems responsible, and ironically is somewhat religious. So how the hell does a religious woman give birth to a baby born with all these deformities?

For those who firmly believe or at least think there is a god/higher power, is it safe to say that god/the gods are somewhat lazy? Thousands, maybe millions of babies are born with deformities every year, and while I hear some say god doesn't make mistakes, that clearly isn't the case. Or maybe my expectations of a god are too high? It just seems weird that our "god" can make so many mistakes in life.

Why is it that you feel that a higher power must make it so there is no negativity in the lives of lower beings? Compared to insects, we are a higher power. Do we go around trying to solve all the problems that insects face?

Well humans didn't create the world, did we? Yeah we pretty much have mastery over every insect and animal on Earth (for the most part), but we didn't create Earth, I'm speaking of powers higher then us that made the world. I know some think the world was created by accident (Big Bang Theory) and who knows maybe that's true, but assuming a god or higher power made us and the world, yeah I think some would think that whatever made us would create a less hostile world. Or maybe we're just ants in a sandbox in some kind of weird experiment, which seems likely at this point.

I feel blessed in many ways, but I know that too many out there got it really bad, the cases out there in the medical world are pretty horrifying. But don't misunderstand me, I don't expect much of any god out there anymore, that ship has long sailed.

The bold is a baseless assumption and it's like 99% of the problem you have with godly things. There is absolutely nothing that dictates that a higher power would make a world free of trials and tribulations.

 

[kingblaze84]

As many here may already know, I'm not religious, but I tend to believe there is some kind of higher power out there. Lately, I haven't discussed religion with much people because I consider religion to be something of a scam and it seems more and more people are realizing this, but I remain very open to there being some kind of god or higher power out there. I have flirted with all out atheism before and at times still do, but I can't get around the fact that there seems to be SOME kind of design in the world. As flawed as much of it is......

With that being said, my mom is a nurse and takes care of special needs children. What made me create this thread is that she is now taking care of a 5 year old girl who not only has autism, she was born with a hole in her throat, born a dwarf, cannot speak, and is partially deaf. She needs an oxygen tank at all times. The mother of the girl is a healthy woman who seems responsible, and ironically is somewhat religious. So how the hell does a religious woman give birth to a baby born with all these deformities?

For those who firmly believe or at least think there is a god/higher power, is it safe to say that god/the gods are somewhat lazy? Thousands, maybe millions of babies are born with deformities every year, and while I hear some say god doesn't make mistakes, that clearly isn't the case. Or maybe my expectations of a god are too high? It just seems weird that our "god" can make so many mistakes in life.

Why is it that you feel that a higher power must make it so there is no negativity in the lives of lower beings? Compared to insects, we are a higher power. Do we go around trying to solve all the problems that insects face?

Well humans didn't create the world, did we? Yeah we pretty much have mastery over every insect and animal on Earth (for the most part), but we didn't create Earth, I'm speaking of powers higher then us that made the world. I know some think the world was created by accident (Big Bang Theory) and who knows maybe that's true, but assuming a god or higher power made us and the world, yeah I think some would think that whatever made us would create a less hostile world. Or maybe we're just ants in a sandbox in some kind of weird experiment, which seems likely at this point.

I feel blessed in many ways, but I know that too many out there got it really bad, the cases out there in the medical world are pretty horrifying. But don't misunderstand me, I don't expect much of any god out there anymore, that ship has long sailed.

The bold is a baseless assumption and it's like 99% of the problem you have with godly things. There is absolutely nothing that dictates that a higher power would make a world free of trials and tribulations.

I can understand adults having to face big problems, fine. But little kids too? Come on even that's gotta make you question things.

There's a reason so many people don't even believe in a god, despite the designs of the world, and the big problems some kids go through is a big reason why. I'm not atheist but I definitely think whatever designed the world could have done a better job in many ways. Or maybe whatever made us was incapable of doing so.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

As many here may already know, I'm not religious, but I tend to believe there is some kind of higher power out there. Lately, I haven't discussed religion with much people because I consider religion to be something of a scam and it seems more and more people are realizing this, but I remain very open to there being some kind of god or higher power out there. I have flirted with all out atheism before and at times still do, but I can't get around the fact that there seems to be SOME kind of design in the world. As flawed as much of it is......

With that being said, my mom is a nurse and takes care of special needs children. What made me create this thread is that she is now taking care of a 5 year old girl who not only has autism, she was born with a hole in her throat, born a dwarf, cannot speak, and is partially deaf. She needs an oxygen tank at all times. The mother of the girl is a healthy woman who seems responsible, and ironically is somewhat religious. So how the hell does a religious woman give birth to a baby born with all these deformities?

For those who firmly believe or at least think there is a god/higher power, is it safe to say that god/the gods are somewhat lazy? Thousands, maybe millions of babies are born with deformities every year, and while I hear some say god doesn't make mistakes, that clearly isn't the case. Or maybe my expectations of a god are too high? It just seems weird that our "god" can make so many mistakes in life.

Why is it that you feel that a higher power must make it so there is no negativity in the lives of lower beings? Compared to insects, we are a higher power. Do we go around trying to solve all the problems that insects face?

Well humans didn't create the world, did we? Yeah we pretty much have mastery over every insect and animal on Earth (for the most part), but we didn't create Earth, I'm speaking of powers higher then us that made the world. I know some think the world was created by accident (Big Bang Theory) and who knows maybe that's true, but assuming a god or higher power made us and the world, yeah I think some would think that whatever made us would create a less hostile world. Or maybe we're just ants in a sandbox in some kind of weird experiment, which seems likely at this point.

I feel blessed in many ways, but I know that too many out there got it really bad, the cases out there in the medical world are pretty horrifying. But don't misunderstand me, I don't expect much of any god out there anymore, that ship has long sailed.

The bold is a baseless assumption and it's like 99% of the problem you have with godly things. There is absolutely nothing that dictates that a higher power would make a world free of trials and tribulations.

I can understand adults having to face big problems, fine. But little kids too? Come on even that's gotta make you question things.

There's a reason so many people don't even believe in a god, despite the designs of the world, and the big problems some kids go through is a big reason why. I'm not atheist but I definitely think whatever designed the world could have done a better job in many ways. Or maybe whatever made us was incapable of doing so.

You're thinking like a human being. To a being that's so far above us that we are like ants, the distinction between an adult human and a child human may very well be meaningless. This is why as a Christian, I don't try to guess God's motivations for what he does. I take what the Bible gives us and leave it at that. I can say what I think God should have done in situations, but if he's able to see things from a vantage point that I can't even conceive of, how can I judge his actions?

 

[MistyKnight]

As many here may already know, I'm not religious, but I tend to believe there is some kind of higher power out there. Lately, I haven't discussed religion with much people because I consider religion to be something of a scam and it seems more and more people are realizing this, but I remain very open to there being some kind of god or higher power out there. I have flirted with all out atheism before and at times still do, but I can't get around the fact that there seems to be SOME kind of design in the world. As flawed as much of it is......

With that being said, my mom is a nurse and takes care of special needs children. What made me create this thread is that she is now taking care of a 5 year old girl who not only has autism, she was born with a hole in her throat, born a dwarf, cannot speak, and is partially deaf. She needs an oxygen tank at all times. The mother of the girl is a healthy woman who seems responsible, and ironically is somewhat religious. So how the hell does a religious woman give birth to a baby born with all these deformities?

For those who firmly believe or at least think there is a god/higher power, is it safe to say that god/the gods are somewhat lazy? Thousands, maybe millions of babies are born with deformities every year, and while I hear some say god doesn't make mistakes, that clearly isn't the case. Or maybe my expectations of a god are too high? It just seems weird that our "god" can make so many mistakes in life.

Why is it that you feel that a higher power must make it so there is no negativity in the lives of lower beings? Compared to insects, we are a higher power. Do we go around trying to solve all the problems that insects face?

Well humans didn't create the world, did we? Yeah we pretty much have mastery over every insect and animal on Earth (for the most part), but we didn't create Earth, I'm speaking of powers higher then us that made the world. I know some think the world was created by accident (Big Bang Theory) and who knows maybe that's true, but assuming a god or higher power made us and the world, yeah I think some would think that whatever made us would create a less hostile world. Or maybe we're just ants in a sandbox in some kind of weird experiment, which seems likely at this point.

I feel blessed in many ways, but I know that too many out there got it really bad, the cases out there in the medical world are pretty horrifying. But don't misunderstand me, I don't expect much of any god out there anymore, that ship has long sailed.

The bold is a baseless assumption and it's like 99% of the problem you have with godly things. There is absolutely nothing that dictates that a higher power would make a world free of trials and tribulations.

I can understand adults having to face big problems, fine. But little kids too? Come on even that's gotta make you question things.

There's a reason so many people don't even believe in a god, despite the designs of the world, and the big problems some kids go through is a big reason why. I'm not atheist but I definitely think whatever designed the world could have done a better job in many ways. Or maybe whatever made us was incapable of doing so.

You're thinking like a human being. To a being that's so far above us that we are like ants, the distinction between an adult human and a child human may very well be meaningless. This is why as a Christian, I don't try to guess God's motivations for what he does. I take what the Bible gives us and leave it at that. I can say what I think God should have done in situations, but if he's able to see things from a vantage point that I can't even conceive of, how can I judge his actions?

To summarize, you basically just said that everything happens for a reason and to never question God for those reasons... But that's the difference between religion and simply believing that a higher being exists.

Religion is created to make us feel better about the horrors that this earth is capable of and to not question God and believe it is all her "plan". but people like me and OP have a hard time believing that there is a reason for children being killed, so we conclude that God only gives a fuck sometimes about some people.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Evil isn't rewarded it's just the easier path so many walk it.

Evil isn't rewarded throughout history? As if the British Empire and others didn't get fantastically rich off oppression and stealing from other people? The Spanish Empire made a total fortune after obliterating the Native Americans, and this seems to happen over and over again throughout history.

On earth it appears rewarded, but spiritually they are empty vessels with no worth.

 

[MistyKnight]

Evil isn't rewarded it's just the easier path so many walk it.

Evil isn't rewarded throughout history? As if the British Empire and others didn't get fantastically rich off oppression and stealing from other people? The Spanish Empire made a total fortune after obliterating the Native Americans, and this seems to happen over and over again throughout history.

On earth it appears rewarded, but spiritually they are empty vessels with no worth.

Soul will pay the ultimate price. Go to hell when you sell.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

To summarize, you basically just said that everything happens for a reason and to never question God for those reasons... But that's the difference between religion and simply believing that a higher being exists.

Religion is created to make us feel better about the horrors that this earth is capable of and to not question God and believe it is all her "plan". but people like me and OP have a hard time believing that there is a reason for children being killed, so we conclude that God only gives a fuck sometimes about some people.

You can question God all you want. I'm just saying that you shouldn't expect to come to an answer through your limited logic. Again, you're attaching your own human feelings to a discussion about God's motivations. You say that children being killed leads you to conclude that God only gives a fuck sometimes about some people. In other words, you're calling him inconsistent. That in itself is illogical because if God allows kids to die just like he allows adults to die, he's being consistent. God can give a fuck about everybody without feeling the need to save everyone from death. Plus, if you actually believe in God, then you probably believe in an afterlife. If you do, why do you even necessarily think that kids dying a physical death is a bad thing. If you believe if a paradise after death, then dying as a child shouldn't be seen as something horrible.

 

[sunlord]

People want GOD to be what they want him to be and it does not work that way

 

[kingblaze84]

As many here may already know, I'm not religious, but I tend to believe there is some kind of higher power out there. Lately, I haven't discussed religion with much people because I consider religion to be something of a scam and it seems more and more people are realizing this, but I remain very open to there being some kind of god or higher power out there. I have flirted with all out atheism before and at times still do, but I can't get around the fact that there seems to be SOME kind of design in the world. As flawed as much of it is......

With that being said, my mom is a nurse and takes care of special needs children. What made me create this thread is that she is now taking care of a 5 year old girl who not only has autism, she was born with a hole in her throat, born a dwarf, cannot speak, and is partially deaf. She needs an oxygen tank at all times. The mother of the girl is a healthy woman who seems responsible, and ironically is somewhat religious. So how the hell does a religious woman give birth to a baby born with all these deformities?

For those who firmly believe or at least think there is a god/higher power, is it safe to say that god/the gods are somewhat lazy? Thousands, maybe millions of babies are born with deformities every year, and while I hear some say god doesn't make mistakes, that clearly isn't the case. Or maybe my expectations of a god are too high? It just seems weird that our "god" can make so many mistakes in life.

Why is it that you feel that a higher power must make it so there is no negativity in the lives of lower beings? Compared to insects, we are a higher power. Do we go around trying to solve all the problems that insects face?

Well humans didn't create the world, did we? Yeah we pretty much have mastery over every insect and animal on Earth (for the most part), but we didn't create Earth, I'm speaking of powers higher then us that made the world. I know some think the world was created by accident (Big Bang Theory) and who knows maybe that's true, but assuming a god or higher power made us and the world, yeah I think some would think that whatever made us would create a less hostile world. Or maybe we're just ants in a sandbox in some kind of weird experiment, which seems likely at this point.

I feel blessed in many ways, but I know that too many out there got it really bad, the cases out there in the medical world are pretty horrifying. But don't misunderstand me, I don't expect much of any god out there anymore, that ship has long sailed.

The bold is a baseless assumption and it's like 99% of the problem you have with godly things. There is absolutely nothing that dictates that a higher power would make a world free of trials and tribulations.

I can understand adults having to face big problems, fine. But little kids too? Come on even that's gotta make you question things.

There's a reason so many people don't even believe in a god, despite the designs of the world, and the big problems some kids go through is a big reason why. I'm not atheist but I definitely think whatever designed the world could have done a better job in many ways. Or maybe whatever made us was incapable of doing so.

You're thinking like a human being. To a being that's so far above us that we are like ants, the distinction between an adult human and a child human may very well be meaningless. This is why as a Christian, I don't try to guess God's motivations for what he does. I take what the Bible gives us and leave it at that. I can say what I think God should have done in situations, but if he's able to see things from a vantage point that I can't even conceive of, how can I judge his actions?

Interesting how you bring Christianity up here, didn't the Bible god say we're created "in his image"? So I would expect a little bit more empathy from such a being, unless it thinks the absentee parent role is cool. I kind of rag on Christianity because the Bible gives characteristics to "god" that seem completely false in the reality of the world. Can you admit the Bible god lied when it said it "loves and cares" for all things? Because if you can admit that, then that would be fair, considering the state of the world.

Otherwise, I agree that whatever god or higher power that's out there likely is focused on other things, but it could be just as likely that maybe it CANNOT do much here on Earth. Especially since the kind of god you believe in has completely disappeared and hasn't shown up for a long time, if ever.

 

[kingblaze84]

Evil isn't rewarded it's just the easier path so many walk it.

Evil isn't rewarded throughout history? As if the British Empire and others didn't get fantastically rich off oppression and stealing from other people? The Spanish Empire made a total fortune after obliterating the Native Americans, and this seems to happen over and over again throughout history.

On earth it appears rewarded, but spiritually they are empty vessels with no worth.

Spiritually I agree with you, I couldn't go to sleep at night doing the things Columbus and the other nutjobs of history did.

What's funny about what you said though is that so many people, especially Christians, find a LOT of worth in Columbus. Even in liberal NYC, Columbus has a bunch of places and even some statues named after him. And Earth tends to reward evil behavior, from Genghis Khan to Andrew Jackson, so I wonder sometimes if the spiritual path is even that impactful. The deep spirituality of the Native Americans and the Tasmanians didn't protect them......no gods protected them from those with no real soul or sense of humanity.

I still consider myself to be somewhat spiritual, but I can't help but notice these things.