How Come Mid 90s NY Rap Didn't Sell?

[BenjaminE]

Well at the end of the day the albums I named;

The Sun Rises In The East

Hard To Earn

Illadelph Halflife

Doe or Die

Reasonable Doubt

36 Chambers

Only Built For Cuban Linx

Midnight Marauders

Those albums are all 5 mic classics in my book. I'd put every one of those albums right up there with Doggystyle, Regulate... The G Funk Era, It Takes A Thief, The Chronic or All Eyes On Me. Apparently people in the other 49 states disagree with me.

Wtf are you really arguing right now?

I'm from nyc. And I know NYC music don't appeal to everyone.

It's that simple.

I'm not arguing anything. I'm just saying that I think those East Coast albums that didn't do well commercially are as good as the West Coast albums that did well commercially. Its not an argument, its just an opinion. Take it or leave it but don't respond with any hostility or Ad Hominem attacks.

Yo, why are you leaving out shyt like Tical, RTD, Mr Smith, IWW, The Score....u dont think those are up to par?

I'm reading some of the most cockamamie bullshyt in this thread, b...lol

I see people all in their feelings. But I'll play along;

Tical - It was considered a disappointment. People might like it now but at the time it wasn't hot. It got a lukewarm reception. And if you say otherwise you weren't around.

Ready To Die - It was commercially successful so it doesn't really support the point I'm trying to make

It Was Written - same as above

The Score - same as above

These are the albums I was referring to in my O/P

The Sun Rises In The East

Hard To Earn

Illadelph Halflife

Doe or Die

Reasonable Doubt

36 Chambers

Only Built For Cuban Linx

Midnight Marauders

^^^ Me and my friends used to smoke blunts to those albums, and mix tapes that had songs from those albums.

But I kinda figured out the answer to my own question. Basically people liked sub-bass and the stuff we were listening to didn't have sub-bass.

We liked mix tapes because they were blunted. They always had a DJ yelling over them. Thats what me and my boys from New York were into.

You answered your own question but it's not what you came up with...

Your favorite albums didn't go multi platinum cuz yo dumb ass was out there buying mixtapes...

 

[EyeofAsaru]

Nigga eye listen to jeru and get plenty pussy

Fuck u talm bout?!

East coast niggas were into mysticism and deeper science with their rhyming..they were tapping into deeper layers of creativity

It wasn't all about bitches,64s, materialism and general sambo ignorant Nigga shit like them West coast rappers be on half the time...

 

[aneed123]

The reality is the west and South's rap sounded like music and has soul to it.... in comparison to that boom bap head phone music

 

[usmarin3]

This thread is fucking retarded.

Midmight Marauders went platinum

Reasonable Doubt went gold

Illmatic went gold

36 Chambers went platinum and even had a platinum hit with Cream

 

[EyeofAsaru]

Yeah sonically the south and west sampled more blues ,gospel,funk and r&b so the music is indeed more soulful..Lyrically tho? Y'all leave a lot to be desired

Boom bap was made skeletal sounding on purpose to put what the emcee is saying to the forfront of your attention...the boom bap drum sounds are more rooted in rock and roll..but black ppl invented rock too so...it's all our music!

 

[aneed123]

Yeah sonically the south sampled more blues ,gospel, and r&b so the music is indeed more soulful

Boom bap was made skeletal sounding on purpose to put what the emcee is saying to the forfront of your attention...the boom bap drum sounds are more rooted in rock and roll..but black ppl invented rock too so...it's all our music!

So think about what music is gonna get played at a BBQ or a graduation party or in ur grandmas basement at a get together? The more soulful music. The thread starter asking why this ain't sell as much uts cuz west and south music related to a bugger demographic. U ain't finna year jeru or illmatic at no family function with old folk cuz the beats hooks and instrumentals are soul ful to make u wanna dance folk that demographic

 

[CapitalB]

Nigga eye listen to jeru and get plenty pussy

Fuck u talm bout?!

East coast niggas were into mysticism and deeper science with their rhyming..they were tapping into deeper layers of creativity

It wasn't all about bitches,64s, materialism and general sambo ignorant Nigga shit like them West coast rappers be on half the time...

u cant refute science my nigga..

i broke it down on the other page..

to u uptight in yo feelings ass NY niggas musics ur everything seein as thats all u got. lol

kinda like Ohio or the MidWest wit they football..

show me a nigga gettin money and pussy as uptight as u niggas be!!?

that shits like an oxymoron so somebody's a "complete lie." lol

 

[EyeofAsaru]

Yeah sonically the south sampled more blues ,gospel, and r&b so the music is indeed more soulful

Boom bap was made skeletal sounding on purpose to put what the emcee is saying to the forfront of your attention...the boom bap drum sounds are more rooted in rock and roll..but black ppl invented rock too so...it's all our music!

So think about what music is gonna get played at a BBQ or a graduation party or in ur grandmas basement at a get together? The more soulful music. The thread starter asking why this ain't sell as much uts cuz west and south music related to a bugger demographic. U ain't finna year jeru or illmatic at no family function with old folk cuz the beats hooks and instrumentals are soul ful to make u wanna dance folk that demographic

Eye Agree with this...

 

[T. Sanford]

The reality is the west and South's rap sounded like music and has soul to it.... in comparison to that boom bap head phone music

Pimp C got game from his stepfather who was a musician.

He rapped

"most of this rap shit is just noise

"But if you put some music in it, you'll get rich boy

That's why I stay up in the studio, up all night

I fuck with live musicians to get the groove right"

Hearing dope bars back to back is nice but like Krit said "If it can't touch my soul then I can't listen to it"

 

[CapitalB]

EastCoast niggas rap from the mind..

Everyone else raps from the heart..

the heart never lies..

and if i wanna stimulate my mind ill go read a book instead of listenin to highschool dropouts who misuse big words "bein brolic tryin to kick knowledge." hahaha

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

I am not reading this whole thread to debunk this bullshit and pose a premise most eastminded kats will not get...

THe East Coast never Fell off in the 90's they kept a consistent number in sales relatively each year, the perception gap is skewed because the Hiphop market place blew up and the westcoast and south took a large chunk of the new market share HipHop had garnered from the pop market. Wu Tang Clan, LL Cool J and Badboy alone held a strong share of a now larger market. THe inferiority complex that not all artist were blowing up from the east and therefore Eastcoast rap was not selling is bullshit there were always big names from each region doing well and many more artists not doing so hot in those same regions...

 

[CapitalB]

and to be fair i dont fuck wit Kendrick either..

and im not sayin that shit whack..

jus sayin i got better shit to do..

NOT nothin better to do. lol

 

[EyeofAsaru]

Nigga eye listen to jeru and get plenty pussy

Fuck u talm bout?!

East coast niggas were into mysticism and deeper science with their rhyming..they were tapping into deeper layers of creativity

It wasn't all about bitches,64s, materialism and general sambo ignorant Nigga shit like them West coast rappers be on half the time...

u cant refute science my nigga..

i broke it down on the other page..

to u uptight in yo feelings ass NY niggas musics ur everything seein as thats all u got. lol

kinda like Ohio or the MidWest wit they football..

show me a nigga gettin money and pussy as uptight as u niggas be!!?

that shits like an oxymoron so somebody's a "complete lie." lol

Lol ninja you speaking in absolutes like ALL East coast ninjas are some uptight no pussy and no money getting ninjas...

So nas,big,rakim,jay, etc ain't rap from the heart as well as the mind?!

Y'all West and south ninjas NEED some knowledge in y'all lives to go along with y'all directionless heart (a second mind btw)...To be honest a lot of West and south ninjas are savage minded...

Eye'll give it to the West and south tho..musically speaking y'all tight with the melodies and instrumentals

 

[CapitalB]

Nigga eye listen to jeru and get plenty pussy

Fuck u talm bout?!

East coast niggas were into mysticism and deeper science with their rhyming..they were tapping into deeper layers of creativity

It wasn't all about bitches,64s, materialism and general sambo ignorant Nigga shit like them West coast rappers be on half the time...

u cant refute science my nigga..

i broke it down on the other page..

to u uptight in yo feelings ass NY niggas musics ur everything seein as thats all u got. lol

kinda like Ohio or the MidWest wit they football..

show me a nigga gettin money and pussy as uptight as u niggas be!!?

that shits like an oxymoron so somebody's a "complete lie." lol

Lol ninja you speaking in absolutes like ALL East coast ninjas are some uptight no pussy and no money getting ninjas...

So nas,big,rakim,jay, etc ain't rap from the heart as well as the mind?!

Y'all West and south ninjas NEED some knowledge in y'all lives to go along with y'all directionless heart (a second mind btw)...To be honest a lot of West and south ninjas are savage minded...

Eye'll give it to the West and south tho..musically speaking y'all tight with the melodies and instrumentals

i wasnt speakin in absolutes..

i said "to YOU uptight niggas from NY"

everybody from NY dont act like yall niggas. lol

i imagine those are the ones gettin money and bitches.

and everyone speaks from their heart AND mind.. its where the emphasis is placed thats the difference..

give me the one that speaks mostly from the heart..

cause the nigga who has to think before he speaks and is careful wit his words is usually full of shit..

 

[CapitalB]

and i like how u ised the term "savages" cause i always correlate u NY niggas as elitist..

nigga we aint savage we real!

sorry keepin it 1hunnid offends u..

sorry we rap about shit we really feelin really livin meanwhile yall makin up shit..

"imaginary players." hahahha

 

[SolemnSauce]

hip hip was still regional, that shit did well in NY and up north. Down south niggaz was UGK, EightBall, Outlast, and Nolimit out.

West coast had death row, only New York believes they are as iconic as they feel they are

 

[CapitalB]

hip hip was still regional, that shit did well in NY and up north. Down south niggaz was UGK, EightBall, Outlast, and Nolimit out.

West coast had death row, only New York believes they are as iconic as they feel they are

thats what happens when u live inside ur own head. lol

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

I'm from New York and I appreciate music from every region. Right now I'm listening to low end theory but last week I was bumping snoop no limit top dog at work. At the same time I just turned my boy who was sleep into a killer Mike fan a few months ago. Thats what makes hip hop great, we have different sounds. With that being said some of you sound fucking stupid acting like boom bap is the only sound New York was making. Thats not True

 

[EyeofAsaru]

and i like how u ised the term "savages" cause i always correlate u NY niggas as elitist..

nigga we aint savage we real!

sorry keepin it 1hunnid offends u..

sorry we rap about shit we really feelin really livin meanwhile yall makin up shit..

"imaginary players." hahahha

Bruh foh

Forgive us if we rather rap about something other than eating bootyholes ,popping pills,drinking lean, cars , etc

Keep it real..the south and West be mostly rapping about jiggaboo shit lol

Eye love too short but eye ain't trying to hear this dude say the word bitch a million times on a album

 

[SolemnSauce]

mannnnn I remember the first time I heard of Wu tang was the song triumph.i knew of method man cause I liked redman, Keith Murray, Ksolo, and Onyx.

So Wu was supposed to be back together and it was pose to be a big deal. Man I seen that video...I remember thinking...yo, wtf are these niggaz talking bout? then Rza had the big card board wings and turned into bees and flew into a nigga mouth.

I was just like, who finds this shit entertaining?