How Come Mid 90s NY Rap Didn't Sell?

[SolemnSauce]

but yo...when fiend go "ITS LIKE....AN EXORCISM BUSSIN OUT THE EXPEDITION"..I got that shit

 

[T. Sanford]

That's why I was always rocks with Mos Def. He had some soul in his music imo

 

[CapitalB]

and i like how u ised the term "savages" cause i always correlate u NY niggas as elitist..

nigga we aint savage we real!

sorry keepin it 1hunnid offends u..

sorry we rap about shit we really feelin really livin meanwhile yall makin up shit..

"imaginary players." hahahha

Bruh foh

Forgive us if we rather rap about something other than eating bootyholes ,popping pills,drinking lean, cars , etc

Keep it real..the south and West be mostly rapping about jiggaboo shit lol

Eye love too short but eye ain't trying to hear this dude say the word bitch a million times on a album

cause thats all Too Short raps about right!!?

Too Short is about as real as they come.

NOW I DEFINITELY know niggas like u aint gettin no bitches and havin no money. lol

"do u fools listen to music or do u jus skim thru it?!" hahahaha

 

[EyeofAsaru]

and i like how u ised the term "savages" cause i always correlate u NY niggas as elitist..

nigga we aint savage we real!

sorry keepin it 1hunnid offends u..

sorry we rap about shit we really feelin really livin meanwhile yall makin up shit..

"imaginary players." hahahha

Bruh foh

Forgive us if we rather rap about something other than eating bootyholes ,popping pills,drinking lean, cars , etc

Keep it real..the south and West be mostly rapping about jiggaboo shit lol

Eye love too short but eye ain't trying to hear this dude say the word bitch a million times on a album

cause thats all Too Short raps about right!!?

Too Short is about as real as they come.

NOW I DEFINITELY know niggas like u aint gettin no bitches and havin no money. lol

"do u fools listen to music or do u jus skim thru it?!" hahahaha

One of my favorite albums is cocktails ,b..eye own every short album including his old crew partners(ant banks,dangerous crew)

Say what you want but yeah all he mostly raps about is pussy...he drops some gems here and there about hustling for yourself but yup he stay rapping about pimping them yamps..

My mind has matured beyond that style of rap now

 

[5th Letter]

The reality is the west and South's rap sounded like music and has soul to it.... in comparison to that boom bap head phone music

this makes no sense

 

[CapitalB]

and i like how u ised the term "savages" cause i always correlate u NY niggas as elitist..

nigga we aint savage we real!

sorry keepin it 1hunnid offends u..

sorry we rap about shit we really feelin really livin meanwhile yall makin up shit..

"imaginary players." hahahha

Bruh foh

Forgive us if we rather rap about something other than eating bootyholes ,popping pills,drinking lean, cars , etc

Keep it real..the south and West be mostly rapping about jiggaboo shit lol

Eye love too short but eye ain't trying to hear this dude say the word bitch a million times on a album

cause thats all Too Short raps about right!!?

Too Short is about as real as they come.

NOW I DEFINITELY know niggas like u aint gettin no bitches and havin no money. lol

"do u fools listen to music or do u jus skim thru it?!" hahahaha

One of my favorite albums is cocktails ,b..eye own every short album including his old crew partners(ant banks,dangerous crew)

Say what you want but yeah all he mostly raps about is pussy...he drops some gems here and there about hustling for yourself but yup he stay rapping about pimping them yamps..

My mind has matured beyond that style of rap now

so thats not all he raps about then!!?

and i grew up on Short.. up until recently.. before this hyphy shit his albums were all laced wit real life game.. bout hustlin.. bout the fucked up system.. bout betterin urself all that shit..

but because it aint complex or tryin too hard dumb niggas dont get it..

and i say dumb because its like Einstein said..

"if u cant explain it simply u dont u derstand it well enough.."

Short Dog rapped about Life.. and who's more simple then Short Dog!!?

its Science my nigga..

u cant refute it. lol

 

[5 Grand]

The reality is the west and South's rap sounded like music and has soul to it.... in comparison to that boom bap head phone music

this makes no sense

Yeah it does. The West Coast cats and the Southern cats were following the rules of music. Their music had basslines and synthesizers and the music was in key. In contrast East Coast producers were flipping samples in a manner that didn't observe the rules of music.

Listen to this song by Jeru the Damaja. The sample doesn't follow the rules of music.

Me Or The Papes - Jeru The Damaja

 

[EyeofAsaru]

and i like how u ised the term "savages" cause i always correlate u NY niggas as elitist..

nigga we aint savage we real!

sorry keepin it 1hunnid offends u..

sorry we rap about shit we really feelin really livin meanwhile yall makin up shit..

"imaginary players." hahahha

Bruh foh

Forgive us if we rather rap about something other than eating bootyholes ,popping pills,drinking lean, cars , etc

Keep it real..the south and West be mostly rapping about jiggaboo shit lol

Eye love too short but eye ain't trying to hear this dude say the word bitch a million times on a album

cause thats all Too Short raps about right!!?

Too Short is about as real as they come.

NOW I DEFINITELY know niggas like u aint gettin no bitches and havin no money. lol

"do u fools listen to music or do u jus skim thru it?!" hahahaha

One of my favorite albums is cocktails ,b..eye own every short album including his old crew partners(ant banks,dangerous crew)

Say what you want but yeah all he mostly raps about is pussy...he drops some gems here and there about hustling for yourself but yup he stay rapping about pimping them yamps..

My mind has matured beyond that style of rap now

so thats not all he raps about then!!?

and i grew up on Short.. up until recently.. before this hyphy shit his albums were all laced wit real life game.. bout hustlin.. bout the fucked up system.. bout betterin urself all that shit..

but because it aint complex or tryin to hard dumb niggas dont get it..

and i say dumb because its like Einstein said..

"if u cant explain it simply u dont u derstand it well enough.."

Short Dog rapped about Life.. and who's more simple then Short Dog!!?

its Science my nigga..

u cant refute it. lol

Yeah it's science on a mundane HUMAN level,not a metaphysical level

Life ain't all about earthly matters ,god..

THATS the difference between niggas like short and jeru..Jeru was rapping about metaphysics, balancing your inner energies etcs...

It's more to life than that

 

[HerbalVaporCapers]

I haven't been able to follow this whole shit

Just needed to clarify that as a person from the west coast who enjoys obtaining currency and the company of the fairer sex

I can still fuck with east coast rappers that do the opposite

There's a lane for us all

 

[5 Grand]

Also KRS One had three albums in that era, Return of the Boom Bap, a self titled album and I Got Next. I had all of them. They were decent albums but I doubt they did well in the other 49 states.

Truth be told I'd rather listen to KRS over Warren G but I'm sure Warren's Regulate...G Funk Era outsold all three KRS albums.

 

[CapitalB]

and i like how u ised the term "savages" cause i always correlate u NY niggas as elitist..

nigga we aint savage we real!

sorry keepin it 1hunnid offends u..

sorry we rap about shit we really feelin really livin meanwhile yall makin up shit..

"imaginary players." hahahha

Bruh foh

Forgive us if we rather rap about something other than eating bootyholes ,popping pills,drinking lean, cars , etc

Keep it real..the south and West be mostly rapping about jiggaboo shit lol

Eye love too short but eye ain't trying to hear this dude say the word bitch a million times on a album

cause thats all Too Short raps about right!!?

Too Short is about as real as they come.

NOW I DEFINITELY know niggas like u aint gettin no bitches and havin no money. lol

"do u fools listen to music or do u jus skim thru it?!" hahahaha

One of my favorite albums is cocktails ,b..eye own every short album including his old crew partners(ant banks,dangerous crew)

Say what you want but yeah all he mostly raps about is pussy...he drops some gems here and there about hustling for yourself but yup he stay rapping about pimping them yamps..

My mind has matured beyond that style of rap now

so thats not all he raps about then!!?

and i grew up on Short.. up until recently.. before this hyphy shit his albums were all laced wit real life game.. bout hustlin.. bout the fucked up system.. bout betterin urself all that shit..

but because it aint complex or tryin to hard dumb niggas dont get it..

and i say dumb because its like Einstein said..

"if u cant explain it simply u dont u derstand it well enough.."

Short Dog rapped about Life.. and who's more simple then Short Dog!!?

its Science my nigga..

u cant refute it. lol

Yeah it's science on a mundane HUMAN level,not a metaphysical level

Life ain't all about earthly matters ,god..

THATS the difference between niggas like short and jeru..Jeru was rapping about metaphysics, balancing your inner energies etcs...

It's more to life than that

yeh.. well i can not only relate to Short Dog's music..

but it also helps me out in life.. as u even admitted.. he gives REAL LIFE game.. shit u can use..

that Jeru shit!!? is that helpin u at all in life!? can it be applied and attributed to somethin postive thats goin on wit u right now!?

thats an honest question cause i dont listen to that shit. lol

maybe im missin somethin..

 

[EyeofAsaru]

Real talk tho..

ALOT of old East coast boom bap was off beat on purpose..That's the point! It was made to break the rules..Like rza said ,he tried to make off beat samples sound like they were on beat...When you over stand this principle then you can adjust your ears and get in tuned with the music...

Southern ppl will never over stand that shit..it was made for East coast niggas first and everybody else 2nd

 

[HerbalVaporCapers]

Real talk tho..



ALOT of old East coast boom bap was off beat on purpose..That's the point! It was made to break the rules..Like rza said ,he tried to make off beat samples sound like they were on beat...When you over stand this principle then you can adjust your ears and get in tuned with the music...

Southern ppl will never over stand that shit..it was made for East coast niggas first and everybody else 2nd

That's cool

But we was out on the corner jammin

And that shit wasn't jammin at all

You'd get clowned for that around the homies

 

[its....JOHN B]

Westcoast artists loved the eastcoast artists that's why all this "Westcoast was laughing at the broke no money getting eastcoast" is laughable to me

 

[CapitalB]

Real talk tho..

ALOT of old East coast boom bap was off beat on purpose..That's the point! It was made to break the rules..Like rza said ,he tried to make off beat samples sound like they were on beat...When you over stand this principle then you can adjust your ears and get in tuned with the music...

Southern ppl will never over stand that shit..it was made for East coast niggas first and everybody else 2nd

and THATS why that shit wasnt sellin..

if u know its for u why get mad when niggas outside ur circle call it bullshit..

it wasnt meant for us..

the only problem is yall try to push that shit on us..

like we suppose to like that shit cause u do!!?

we aint got time for that..

 

[CapitalB]

Westcoast artists loved the eastcoast artists that's why all this "Westcoast was laughing at the broke no money getting eastcoast" is laughable to me

we aint talkin about artist tho..

we talkin about niggas in the street..

u.. me and the likes..

cause that shit u talkin goes both ways..

artist in the east loved niggas from the West Coast and South too..

 

[EyeofAsaru]

and i like how u ised the term "savages" cause i always correlate u NY niggas as elitist..

nigga we aint savage we real!

sorry keepin it 1hunnid offends u..

sorry we rap about shit we really feelin really livin meanwhile yall makin up shit..

"imaginary players." hahahha

Bruh foh

Forgive us if we rather rap about something other than eating bootyholes ,popping pills,drinking lean, cars , etc

Keep it real..the south and West be mostly rapping about jiggaboo shit lol

Eye love too short but eye ain't trying to hear this dude say the word bitch a million times on a album

cause thats all Too Short raps about right!!?

Too Short is about as real as they come.

NOW I DEFINITELY know niggas like u aint gettin no bitches and havin no money. lol

"do u fools listen to music or do u jus skim thru it?!" hahahaha

One of my favorite albums is cocktails ,b..eye own every short album including his old crew partners(ant banks,dangerous crew)

Say what you want but yeah all he mostly raps about is pussy...he drops some gems here and there about hustling for yourself but yup he stay rapping about pimping them yamps..

My mind has matured beyond that style of rap now

so thats not all he raps about then!!?

and i grew up on Short.. up until recently.. before this hyphy shit his albums were all laced wit real life game.. bout hustlin.. bout the fucked up system.. bout betterin urself all that shit..

but because it aint complex or tryin to hard dumb niggas dont get it..

and i say dumb because its like Einstein said..

"if u cant explain it simply u dont u derstand it well enough.."

Short Dog rapped about Life.. and who's more simple then Short Dog!!?

its Science my nigga..

u cant refute it. lol

Yeah it's science on a mundane HUMAN level,not a metaphysical level

Life ain't all about earthly matters ,god..

THATS the difference between niggas like short and jeru..Jeru was rapping about metaphysics, balancing your inner energies etcs...

It's more to life than that

yeh.. well i can not only relate to Short Dog's music..

but it also helps me out in life.. as u even admitted.. he gives REAL LIFE game.. shit u can use..

that Jeru shit!!? is that helpin u at all in life!? can it be applied and attributed to somethin postive thats goin on wit u right now!?

thats an honest question cause i dont listen to that shit. lol

maybe im missin somethin..

Let me ask you a real question..how can eye thoroughly explain some shit to you that you inherently don't fuck with ? Your mind ain't nowhere near it to over stand it...it's not for you but Imma tell you that there IS something special in the chaos(the boom bap)

Jeru deals with things beyond the physical body ..If you ain't into spirituality then you won't fuck with it...

Its like a monk who has given up sex ,junk food,entertainment, material possessions to meditate all day trying to explain why he do what he do to a person who loves all of the temptations of this world..That regular Nigga in the world ain't gonna understand that shit..it's not for him and her..

That's another reason that jeru shit ain't sell ..because people ain't ready to go to that level in life..spirituality is boring to people..they rather be ignorant

 

[CapitalB]

and i like how u ised the term "savages" cause i always correlate u NY niggas as elitist..

nigga we aint savage we real!

sorry keepin it 1hunnid offends u..

sorry we rap about shit we really feelin really livin meanwhile yall makin up shit..

"imaginary players." hahahha

Bruh foh

Forgive us if we rather rap about something other than eating bootyholes ,popping pills,drinking lean, cars , etc

Keep it real..the south and West be mostly rapping about jiggaboo shit lol

Eye love too short but eye ain't trying to hear this dude say the word bitch a million times on a album

cause thats all Too Short raps about right!!?

Too Short is about as real as they come.

NOW I DEFINITELY know niggas like u aint gettin no bitches and havin no money. lol

"do u fools listen to music or do u jus skim thru it?!" hahahaha

One of my favorite albums is cocktails ,b..eye own every short album including his old crew partners(ant banks,dangerous crew)

Say what you want but yeah all he mostly raps about is pussy...he drops some gems here and there about hustling for yourself but yup he stay rapping about pimping them yamps..

My mind has matured beyond that style of rap now

so thats not all he raps about then!!?

and i grew up on Short.. up until recently.. before this hyphy shit his albums were all laced wit real life game.. bout hustlin.. bout the fucked up system.. bout betterin urself all that shit..

but because it aint complex or tryin to hard dumb niggas dont get it..

and i say dumb because its like Einstein said..

"if u cant explain it simply u dont u derstand it well enough.."

Short Dog rapped about Life.. and who's more simple then Short Dog!!?

its Science my nigga..

u cant refute it. lol

Yeah it's science on a mundane HUMAN level,not a metaphysical level

Life ain't all about earthly matters ,god..

THATS the difference between niggas like short and jeru..Jeru was rapping about metaphysics, balancing your inner energies etcs...

It's more to life than that

yeh.. well i can not only relate to Short Dog's music..

but it also helps me out in life.. as u even admitted.. he gives REAL LIFE game.. shit u can use..

that Jeru shit!!? is that helpin u at all in life!? can it be applied and attributed to somethin postive thats goin on wit u right now!?

thats an honest question cause i dont listen to that shit. lol

maybe im missin somethin..

Let me ask you a real question..how can eye thoroughly explain some shit to you that you inherently don't fuck with ? Your mind ain't nowhere near it to over stand it...it's not for you but Imma tell you that there IS something special in the chaos(the boom bap)

Jeru deals with things beyond the physical body ..If you ain't into spirituality then you won't fuck with it...

Its like a monk who has given up sex ,junk food,entertainment, material possessions to meditate all day trying to explain why he do what he do to a person who loves all of the temptations of this world..That regular Nigga in the world ain't gonna understand that shit..it's not for him and her..

That's another reason that jeru shit ain't sell ..because people ain't ready to go to that level in life..spirituality is boring to people..they rather be ignorant

so basically it hasnt done shit for u!!?

and ud be surprised what i know..

like i said earlier..

when i want to expand my mind i open a book..

maybe thats whats wrong wit our culture..

we look to music to educate us rather then entertain..

shits "deeper than rap" lol

 

[EyeofAsaru]

and i like how u ised the term "savages" cause i always correlate u NY niggas as elitist..

nigga we aint savage we real!

sorry keepin it 1hunnid offends u..

sorry we rap about shit we really feelin really livin meanwhile yall makin up shit..

"imaginary players." hahahha

Bruh foh

Forgive us if we rather rap about something other than eating bootyholes ,popping pills,drinking lean, cars , etc

Keep it real..the south and West be mostly rapping about jiggaboo shit lol

Eye love too short but eye ain't trying to hear this dude say the word bitch a million times on a album

cause thats all Too Short raps about right!!?

Too Short is about as real as they come.

NOW I DEFINITELY know niggas like u aint gettin no bitches and havin no money. lol

"do u fools listen to music or do u jus skim thru it?!" hahahaha

One of my favorite albums is cocktails ,b..eye own every short album including his old crew partners(ant banks,dangerous crew)

Say what you want but yeah all he mostly raps about is pussy...he drops some gems here and there about hustling for yourself but yup he stay rapping about pimping them yamps..

My mind has matured beyond that style of rap now

so thats not all he raps about then!!?

and i grew up on Short.. up until recently.. before this hyphy shit his albums were all laced wit real life game.. bout hustlin.. bout the fucked up system.. bout betterin urself all that shit..

but because it aint complex or tryin to hard dumb niggas dont get it..

and i say dumb because its like Einstein said..

"if u cant explain it simply u dont u derstand it well enough.."

Short Dog rapped about Life.. and who's more simple then Short Dog!!?

its Science my nigga..

u cant refute it. lol

Yeah it's science on a mundane HUMAN level,not a metaphysical level

Life ain't all about earthly matters ,god..

THATS the difference between niggas like short and jeru..Jeru was rapping about metaphysics, balancing your inner energies etcs...

It's more to life than that

yeh.. well i can not only relate to Short Dog's music..

but it also helps me out in life.. as u even admitted.. he gives REAL LIFE game.. shit u can use..

that Jeru shit!!? is that helpin u at all in life!? can it be applied and attributed to somethin postive thats goin on wit u right now!?

thats an honest question cause i dont listen to that shit. lol

maybe im missin somethin..

Let me ask you a real question..how can eye thoroughly explain some shit to you that you inherently don't fuck with ? Your mind ain't nowhere near it to over stand it...it's not for you but Imma tell you that there IS something special in the chaos(the boom bap)

Jeru deals with things beyond the physical body ..If you ain't into spirituality then you won't fuck with it...

Its like a monk who has given up sex ,junk food,entertainment, material possessions to meditate all day trying to explain why he do what he do to a person who loves all of the temptations of this world..That regular Nigga in the world ain't gonna understand that shit..it's not for him and her..

That's another reason that jeru shit ain't sell ..because people ain't ready to go to that level in life..spirituality is boring to people..they rather be ignorant

so basically it hasnt done shit for u!!?

and ud be surprised what i know..

like i said earlier..

when i want to expand my mind i open a book..

maybe thats whats wrong wit our culture..

we look to music to educate us rather then entertain..

shits "deeper than rap" lol

Actually it done plenty for me...

It taught me spiritual discipline and kept me level headed

Music has many purposes..it was originally created to heal energy and expand your soul out the body ,not merely entertain..

That's the problem..niggas wanna box music in to one purpose instead of embracing it all..that's why music is stuck in a stale place right now..everybody I know says music used to be better back in the days

 

[5th Letter]

The reality is the west and South's rap sounded like music and has soul to it.... in comparison to that boom bap head phone music

this makes no sense

Yeah it does. The West Coast cats and the Southern cats were following the rules of music. Their music had basslines and synthesizers and the music was in key. In contrast East Coast producers were flipping samples in a manner that didn't observe the rules of music.

Listen to this song by Jeru the Damaja. The sample doesn't follow the rules of music.

Me Or The Papes - Jeru The Damaja

What are the rules of music?