Do u feel Blacks associate ourselves with poverty 2much at the cost of not identifying asMiddleClass

[2stepz_ahead]

nigga you visited Hawaii...tell me it ain't racist when you lived thete. he'd still a black man...that shit don't change. if a cop pulls him over...does it matter if he's a surfing nigga?

 

[kzzl]

Seems like every @2stepz_ahead post stems from from something, or him, not being black enough. Somebody scorned dude bad back in the day.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Seems like every @2stepz_ahead post stems from from something, or him, not being black enough. Somebody scorned dude bad back in the day.

wrong....I'm defending the niggas who aren't about fukk shit to be accepted as black.

people aint got time to prove their skin color when we are reminded of it everyday.

it's something just stupid that irks me when it's so much other shit to put energy in

 

[kzzl]

Seems like every @2stepz_ahead post stems from from something, or him, not being black enough. Somebody scorned dude bad back in the day.

wrong....I'm defending the niggas who aren't about fukk shit to be accepted as black.

people aint got time to prove their skin color when we are reminded of it everyday.

it's something just stupid that irks me when it's so much other shit to put energy in

Who said they wasn't accepted as black?

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Seems like every @2stepz_ahead post stems from from something, or him, not being black enough. Somebody scorned dude bad back in the day.

wrong....I'm defending the niggas who aren't about fukk shit to be accepted as black.

people aint got time to prove their skin color when we are reminded of it everyday.

it's something just stupid that irks me when it's so much other shit to put energy in

Who said they wasn't accepted as black?

been said on this site who's real an who aint black enough an yadda yadda..

it's just getting nowhere.

 

[blakfyahking]

never said he was bulletproof... just asking why is he less black which inturn makes people use that as why he was able.

that's defeatist, is it not?

I'm not saying you...but we can't question his blackness because of location. eventually we will all come up.

how would you feel if you made millions and people told your child they ain't black enough because you got loot now or your wife was white.

will blue ivy not be black enough?

will kaynes kid not be black enough?

what's black enough?

who's fault is it that u chose to make a family with a white chick when u had a choice to pick a black woman as a wife? haha

I mean even Barack Obama managed to do that, which is how he got acceptance by a lot of black people

part of the black experience is struggle............it doesn't necessarily have to be financial struggle

but don't sit here and act like a sheltered black person who hasn't had to face any adversity can relate to the average black person from any country

struggle is what all black share besides melanin across languages, cultures, and even class divisions

a nigga is coupe is still a nigga, a nigga who speak Spanish is still a nigga, etc.

the only way u ain't black enough is if u don't contribute or struggle for the black experience point blank

we'll wait and see what Kanye's kids do when it's their turn

 

[blakfyahking]

nigga you visited Hawaii...tell me it ain't racist when you lived thete. he'd still a black man...that shit don't change. if a cop pulls him over...does it matter if he's a surfing nigga?

u must have not been to Hawaii bruh

majority of the cops there are brown people....one of the few places where I was rarely paid attention to by the cops

maybe in a faraway time there was racism in HI, but nowhere in comparison to what niggaz have to deal with in the states

u just reaching at this point

 

[kzzl]

Seems like every @2stepz_ahead post stems from from something, or him, not being black enough. Somebody scorned dude bad back in the day.

wrong....I'm defending the niggas who aren't about fukk shit to be accepted as black.

people aint got time to prove their skin color when we are reminded of it everyday.

it's something just stupid that irks me when it's so much other shit to put energy in

Who said they wasn't accepted as black?

been said on this site who's real an who aint black enough an yadda yadda..

it's just getting nowhere.

The one drop rule gets debated, that white chick in Africa was called out. Is there something else I'm missing?

All I see of successful blacks on here is GOATS, black excellence post , maybe some criticism, and at least one hater. But not blackness being unaccepted. I think your pulling that from somewhere else.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

never said he was bulletproof... just asking why is he less black which inturn makes people use that as why he was able.

that's defeatist, is it not?

I'm not saying you...but we can't question his blackness because of location. eventually we will all come up.

how would you feel if you made millions and people told your child they ain't black enough because you got loot now or your wife was white.

will blue ivy not be black enough?

will kaynes kid not be black enough?

what's black enough?

who's fault is it that u chose to make a family with a white chick when u had a choice to pick a black woman as a wife? haha

I mean even Barack Obama managed to do that, which is how he got acceptance by a lot of black people

part of the black experience is struggle............it doesn't necessarily have to be financial struggle

but don't sit here and act like a sheltered black person who hasn't had to face any adversity can relate to the average black person from any country

struggle is what all black share besides melanin across languages, cultures, and even class divisions

a nigga is coupe is still a nigga, a nigga who speak Spanish is still a nigga, etc.

the only way u ain't black enough is if u don't contribute or struggle for the black experience point blank

we'll wait and see what Kanye's kids do when it's their turn

two men from different backgrounds may have different struggles...

guy in the city deal with coke crack x.

guy in the burbs meth, crack. coke heroin. other new designer shit, spray cans. magic markers, cinnamon.

.guy in the city...jumped by gang for wearing wrong color

guys in burbs jumped for being the wrong color.

guy in the city shot by friend playing around

guy in burbs shot by friend playing with gun.

gut in burbs frisked by cops an beat up

guy in city frisked and neat up by cops

this can go on an on

location changed didn't make either of the any less black

 

[blakfyahking]

now while i see all the stats...all that can be changed with. mentality.

poor is not about location as it's more about the mind.

I have often ran into people who I know for a fact are better than what they portray.

hell. even on this site are constant examples of poor mentality than anything.

case an point....the moment someone says..." you made it out the hood and think". real shit...that statement invalidates anything you say afterwards...simply because you are assuming the location dictated the mentality. why should someone who made it out be proud or a bit arrogant since there are so many reasons why they shouldn't?.

not gonna point out my nigga..but I once heard Obama aint like us cause he from Hawaii so he don't understand the hood.

I have quite a few problems with that statement.

it's like ok. if he was a hybrid from the hood could he still had been president? did he become president because he wasn't hood? why does his location cancel out his understanding the struggle of being black?

he may not have missed a meal but is he still a black man? if anything. you would think his struggle was harder cause he grew up in hawaii. Hawaii is racist as fukk now. at this moment. how you think it was growing up in the time he was there?

but rather than understanding his struggle people rather give him an out an say he made it because. as if being black changes because.

I'll ask this question again...

what's the difference between a black man in Hawaii and a black man in a US inner city?

ill tell you..

nothing, but the amount and type of excuses.

I'm ready for this fight today

all of the bolded is bullshit

u naive as fuck if u think surroundings don't have shit to do with self-esteem and opportunity

is it a valid excuse to fail when there are better choices to be made? no, but don't act like making it out of the hood when u generations deep isn't an accomplishment

mofos like u love to act like the hood is made that way by accident......there are forces/structures that purposely designed and even today continue to reinforce the hood to be that way..........better go back and check the great Furious Styles for his lyrics my nigga, he was talking some real shit haha

as far as Obama.....if he ain't never missed a meal then yeah he can't relate to the average hood nigga.....statements about him being out of touch are valid

and Hawaii ain't no excuse, I just left there......wasn't even my 1st time there either.......never been to a place with LESS racism ever

so there is plenty of difference between a surfing ass Hawaiian nigga and a black man who legitimately has to worry about stop and frisk today in many US inner cities

nigga are you serious?

first....fukk it. I'm proud to make it out after being there for generations... that wont change.

but I be damned if I'm ok with being yet another still there.

an yes. surroundings effect mentality. if you let it.

niggas buttfukkin in jail...do you have to be apart of it cuz you are surrounded by it?

and again....yes I know why the hood exists....it's been that way for along time. your just said generations deep. your words.

if none of your fam made it out yet...are you strong enough to make the change needed to break the cycle?

not sure where you are from but you stated you have multiple houses. if you black. did you come from the hood? did you bust your ass to get what you got or was it given to you? all the hood shit y'all defending...you actually go against it all because you got two or more houses. what did the forces of to stop you and why didn't it stop you?

bruh...what you talking about? you a living example of proving my point that drive can give you more.

no. everyone wont be the same...but does that stop the attempt?

wtf u lunchin like shit right now LOL......I don't know where the bolded came from

u in ur feels and I notice u keep speaking on my houses.......but yet u didn't understand why I see u as suspect sometimes

only insecure mofos worry about what other people got.......if u overseas balling in Switzerland like u say then we should be speaking as peers.......and peers don't watch each others' pockets

and my point is that while drive can give u more, it's also not solely enough.......I consider myself blessed, lucky, randomly chosen, or however u want to call it

so I don't blame the average mofo still stuck in the hood because we all aren't given the same talents or even the same opportunities to get out......so why would I sit back and try to critique a mofo still stuck in the hood trying to figure his way out?

and let's not forget that drive is what has a lot of mofos in prison now from hustling/robbing/stealing whatever

if u that invested in helping hood niggaz, then spend ur time making a way to help others out, but don't sit here on ur throne and judge other mofos for only doing what they were taught and can see

 

[2stepz_ahead]

now while i see all the stats...all that can be changed with. mentality.

poor is not about location as it's more about the mind.

I have often ran into people who I know for a fact are better than what they portray.

hell. even on this site are constant examples of poor mentality than anything.

case an point....the moment someone says..." you made it out the hood and think". real shit...that statement invalidates anything you say afterwards...simply because you are assuming the location dictated the mentality. why should someone who made it out be proud or a bit arrogant since there are so many reasons why they shouldn't?.

not gonna point out my nigga..but I once heard Obama aint like us cause he from Hawaii so he don't understand the hood.

I have quite a few problems with that statement.

it's like ok. if he was a hybrid from the hood could he still had been president? did he become president because he wasn't hood? why does his location cancel out his understanding the struggle of being black?

he may not have missed a meal but is he still a black man? if anything. you would think his struggle was harder cause he grew up in hawaii. Hawaii is racist as fukk now. at this moment. how you think it was growing up in the time he was there?

but rather than understanding his struggle people rather give him an out an say he made it because. as if being black changes because.

I'll ask this question again...

what's the difference between a black man in Hawaii and a black man in a US inner city?

ill tell you..

nothing, but the amount and type of excuses.

I'm ready for this fight today

all of the bolded is bullshit

u naive as fuck if u think surroundings don't have shit to do with self-esteem and opportunity

is it a valid excuse to fail when there are better choices to be made? no, but don't act like making it out of the hood when u generations deep isn't an accomplishment

mofos like u love to act like the hood is made that way by accident......there are forces/structures that purposely designed and even today continue to reinforce the hood to be that way..........better go back and check the great Furious Styles for his lyrics my nigga, he was talking some real shit haha

as far as Obama.....if he ain't never missed a meal then yeah he can't relate to the average hood nigga.....statements about him being out of touch are valid

and Hawaii ain't no excuse, I just left there......wasn't even my 1st time there either.......never been to a place with LESS racism ever

so there is plenty of difference between a surfing ass Hawaiian nigga and a black man who legitimately has to worry about stop and frisk today in many US inner cities

nigga are you serious?

first....fukk it. I'm proud to make it out after being there for generations... that wont change.

but I be damned if I'm ok with being yet another still there.

an yes. surroundings effect mentality. if you let it.

niggas buttfukkin in jail...do you have to be apart of it cuz you are surrounded by it?

and again....yes I know why the hood exists....it's been that way for along time. your just said generations deep. your words.

if none of your fam made it out yet...are you strong enough to make the change needed to break the cycle?

not sure where you are from but you stated you have multiple houses. if you black. did you come from the hood? did you bust your ass to get what you got or was it given to you? all the hood shit y'all defending...you actually go against it all because you got two or more houses. what did the forces of to stop you and why didn't it stop you?

bruh...what you talking about? you a living example of proving my point that drive can give you more.

no. everyone wont be the same...but does that stop the attempt?

wtf u lunchin like shit right now LOL......I don't know where the bolded came from

u in ur feels and I notice u keep speaking on my houses.......but yet u didn't understand why I see u as suspect sometimes

only insecure mofos worry about what other people got.......if u overseas balling in Switzerland like u say then we should be speaking as peers.......and peers don't watch each others' pockets

and my point is that while drive can give u more, it's also not solely enough.......I consider myself blessed, lucky, randomly chosen, or however u want to call it

so I don't blame the average mofo still stuck in the hood because we all aren't given the same talents or even the same opportunities to get out......so why would I sit back and try to critique a mofo still stuck in the hood trying to figure his way out?

and let's not forget that drive is what has a lot of mofos in prison now from hustling/robbing/stealing whatever

if u that invested in helping hood niggaz, then spend ur time making a way to help others out, but don't sit here on ur throne and judge other mofos for only doing what they were taught and can see

nigga I always welcome being peers.

an yes I'm in Swiss...homie sion sent me mail to my house in PA and Swiss.

I use your houses as a referee point to say you good thru work.

others can have a similar path...with a few tweaks....haven't bought a throne yet...but I help people in two countries working on another when I get time.

 

[(Nope)]

now while i see all the stats...all that can be changed with. mentality.

poor is not about location as it's more about the mind.

I have often ran into people who I know for a fact are better than what they portray.

hell. even on this site are constant examples of poor mentality than anything.

case an point....the moment someone says..." you made it out the hood and think". real shit...that statement invalidates anything you say afterwards...simply because you are assuming the location dictated the mentality. why should someone who made it out be proud or a bit arrogant since there are so many reasons why they shouldn't?.

not gonna point out my nigga..but I once heard Obama aint like us cause he from Hawaii so he don't understand the hood.

I have quite a few problems with that statement.

it's like ok. if he was a hybrid from the hood could he still had been president? did he become president because he wasn't hood? why does his location cancel out his understanding the struggle of being black?

he may not have missed a meal but is he still a black man? if anything. you would think his struggle was harder cause he grew up in hawaii. Hawaii is racist as fukk now. at this moment. how you think it was growing up in the time he was there?

but rather than understanding his struggle people rather give him an out an say he made it because. as if being black changes because.

I'll ask this question again...

what's the difference between a black man in Hawaii and a black man in a US inner city?

ill tell you..

nothing, but the amount and type of excuses.

I'm ready for this fight today

all of the bolded is bullshit

u naive as fuck if u think surroundings don't have shit to do with self-esteem and opportunity

is it a valid excuse to fail when there are better choices to be made? no, but don't act like making it out of the hood when u generations deep isn't an accomplishment

mofos like u love to act like the hood is made that way by accident......there are forces/structures that purposely designed and even today continue to reinforce the hood to be that way..........better go back and check the great Furious Styles for his lyrics my nigga, he was talking some real shit haha

as far as Obama.....if he ain't never missed a meal then yeah he can't relate to the average hood nigga.....statements about him being out of touch are valid

and Hawaii ain't no excuse, I just left there......wasn't even my 1st time there either.......never been to a place with LESS racism ever

so there is plenty of difference between a surfing ass Hawaiian nigga and a black man who legitimately has to worry about stop and frisk today in many US inner cities

an yes. surroundings effect mentality. if you let it.

Your point is well taken, but this is where you're wrong. Surroundings have a profound effect on who you are. And just because something worked for you and/or you were able to overcome the adversity of your surroundings, doesn't mean that everyone else could or should. Surroundings don't have to define you, but ignoring their affects on others makes you seem self-righteous. It's not a question of "if you let it." It's happening whether you know it or not. You can't talk empowerment while putting people down, it's counter-intuitive. Which whether you realize it or not is what you're doing when you deny someone their experience. What you did was special and by recognizing that you can better serve others.

 

[blakfyahking]

never said he was bulletproof... just asking why is he less black which inturn makes people use that as why he was able.

that's defeatist, is it not?

I'm not saying you...but we can't question his blackness because of location. eventually we will all come up.

how would you feel if you made millions and people told your child they ain't black enough because you got loot now or your wife was white.

will blue ivy not be black enough?

will kaynes kid not be black enough?

what's black enough?

who's fault is it that u chose to make a family with a white chick when u had a choice to pick a black woman as a wife? haha

I mean even Barack Obama managed to do that, which is how he got acceptance by a lot of black people

part of the black experience is struggle............it doesn't necessarily have to be financial struggle

but don't sit here and act like a sheltered black person who hasn't had to face any adversity can relate to the average black person from any country

struggle is what all black share besides melanin across languages, cultures, and even class divisions

a nigga is coupe is still a nigga, a nigga who speak Spanish is still a nigga, etc.

the only way u ain't black enough is if u don't contribute or struggle for the black experience point blank

we'll wait and see what Kanye's kids do when it's their turn

two men from different backgrounds may have different struggles...

guy in the city deal with coke crack x.

guy in the burbs meth, crack. coke heroin. other new designer shit, spray cans. magic markers, cinnamon.

.guy in the city...jumped by gang for wearing wrong color

guys in burbs jumped for being the wrong color.

guy in the city shot by friend playing around

guy in burbs shot by friend playing with gun.

gut in burbs frisked by cops an beat up

guy in city frisked and neat up by cops

this can go on an on

location changed didn't make either of the any less black

ok but if they all have there own adversity as black people, doesn't that count as the struggle I mentioned previously?

and location has nothing to do with blackness, it's about the struggle like I said

u think Barack had to deal with any of them issues over in HI? haha cut the shit my nigga

 

[2stepz_ahead]

now while i see all the stats...all that can be changed with. mentality.

poor is not about location as it's more about the mind.

I have often ran into people who I know for a fact are better than what they portray.

hell. even on this site are constant examples of poor mentality than anything.

case an point....the moment someone says..." you made it out the hood and think". real shit...that statement invalidates anything you say afterwards...simply because you are assuming the location dictated the mentality. why should someone who made it out be proud or a bit arrogant since there are so many reasons why they shouldn't?.

not gonna point out my nigga..but I once heard Obama aint like us cause he from Hawaii so he don't understand the hood.

I have quite a few problems with that statement.

it's like ok. if he was a hybrid from the hood could he still had been president? did he become president because he wasn't hood? why does his location cancel out his understanding the struggle of being black?

he may not have missed a meal but is he still a black man? if anything. you would think his struggle was harder cause he grew up in hawaii. Hawaii is racist as fukk now. at this moment. how you think it was growing up in the time he was there?

but rather than understanding his struggle people rather give him an out an say he made it because. as if being black changes because.

I'll ask this question again...

what's the difference between a black man in Hawaii and a black man in a US inner city?

ill tell you..

nothing, but the amount and type of excuses.

I'm ready for this fight today

all of the bolded is bullshit

u naive as fuck if u think surroundings don't have shit to do with self-esteem and opportunity

is it a valid excuse to fail when there are better choices to be made? no, but don't act like making it out of the hood when u generations deep isn't an accomplishment

mofos like u love to act like the hood is made that way by accident......there are forces/structures that purposely designed and even today continue to reinforce the hood to be that way..........better go back and check the great Furious Styles for his lyrics my nigga, he was talking some real shit haha

as far as Obama.....if he ain't never missed a meal then yeah he can't relate to the average hood nigga.....statements about him being out of touch are valid

and Hawaii ain't no excuse, I just left there......wasn't even my 1st time there either.......never been to a place with LESS racism ever

so there is plenty of difference between a surfing ass Hawaiian nigga and a black man who legitimately has to worry about stop and frisk today in many US inner cities

an yes. surroundings effect mentality. if you let it.

Your point is well taken, but this is where you're wrong. Surroundings have a profound effect on who you are. And just because something worked for you and/or you were able to overcome the adversity of your surroundings, doesn't mean that everyone else could or should. Surroundings don't have to define you, but ignoring their affects on others makes you seem self-righteous. It's not a question of "if you let it." It's happening whether you know it or not. You can't talk empowerment while putting people down, it's counter-intuitive. Which whether you realize it or not is what you're doing when you deny someone their experience. What you did was special and by recognizing that you can better serve others.

bruh again...I'm not putting anyone down.

but alot of shit goes on around you that you will ir won't take. but we gonna focus on what you said real fast.

so does this mean those that are around fukk shit will be like that fukk shit? but why didn't they get away from it?

there are people who had two crackheads parents living in gangland yet become a doctor or some shit.

some day that's the exception an not the rule...OK, with all the odds stacked against them. their mentality carried them to greatness. their will.

it's like a rose growning outta concrete...you see it. it's not suppose to happen ...but it did. which means it can happen again.

an why the fukk is making it out the exception an not the rule?

 

[blakfyahking]

now while i see all the stats...all that can be changed with. mentality.

poor is not about location as it's more about the mind.

I have often ran into people who I know for a fact are better than what they portray.

hell. even on this site are constant examples of poor mentality than anything.

case an point....the moment someone says..." you made it out the hood and think". real shit...that statement invalidates anything you say afterwards...simply because you are assuming the location dictated the mentality. why should someone who made it out be proud or a bit arrogant since there are so many reasons why they shouldn't?.

not gonna point out my nigga..but I once heard Obama aint like us cause he from Hawaii so he don't understand the hood.

I have quite a few problems with that statement.

it's like ok. if he was a hybrid from the hood could he still had been president? did he become president because he wasn't hood? why does his location cancel out his understanding the struggle of being black?

he may not have missed a meal but is he still a black man? if anything. you would think his struggle was harder cause he grew up in hawaii. Hawaii is racist as fukk now. at this moment. how you think it was growing up in the time he was there?

but rather than understanding his struggle people rather give him an out an say he made it because. as if being black changes because.

I'll ask this question again...

what's the difference between a black man in Hawaii and a black man in a US inner city?

ill tell you..

nothing, but the amount and type of excuses.

I'm ready for this fight today

all of the bolded is bullshit

u naive as fuck if u think surroundings don't have shit to do with self-esteem and opportunity

is it a valid excuse to fail when there are better choices to be made? no, but don't act like making it out of the hood when u generations deep isn't an accomplishment

mofos like u love to act like the hood is made that way by accident......there are forces/structures that purposely designed and even today continue to reinforce the hood to be that way..........better go back and check the great Furious Styles for his lyrics my nigga, he was talking some real shit haha

as far as Obama.....if he ain't never missed a meal then yeah he can't relate to the average hood nigga.....statements about him being out of touch are valid

and Hawaii ain't no excuse, I just left there......wasn't even my 1st time there either.......never been to a place with LESS racism ever

so there is plenty of difference between a surfing ass Hawaiian nigga and a black man who legitimately has to worry about stop and frisk today in many US inner cities

an yes. surroundings effect mentality. if you let it.

Your point is well taken, but this is where you're wrong. Surroundings have a profound effect on who you are. And just because something worked for you and/or you were able to overcome the adversity of your surroundings, doesn't mean that everyone else could or should. Surroundings don't have to define you, but ignoring their affects on others makes you seem self-righteous. It's not a question of "if you let it." It's happening whether you know it or not. You can't talk empowerment while putting people down, it's counter-intuitive. Which whether you realize it or not is what you're doing when you deny someone their experience. What you did was special and by recognizing that you can better serve others.

^^^cosign all of this

what @2stepz_ahead is talking sounds just like white people when black folks talk about how institutional racism is an obstacle

whether u choose to let it stop u has nothing to do with whether or not it exists in the 1st place

 

[5th Letter]

now while i see all the stats...all that can be changed with. mentality.

poor is not about location as it's more about the mind.

I have often ran into people who I know for a fact are better than what they portray.

hell. even on this site are constant examples of poor mentality than anything.

case an point....the moment someone says..." you made it out the hood and think". real shit...that statement invalidates anything you say afterwards...simply because you are assuming the location dictated the mentality. why should someone who made it out be proud or a bit arrogant since there are so many reasons why they shouldn't?.

not gonna point out my nigga..but I once heard Obama aint like us cause he from Hawaii so he don't understand the hood.

I have quite a few problems with that statement.

it's like ok. if he was a hybrid from the hood could he still had been president? did he become president because he wasn't hood? why does his location cancel out his understanding the struggle of being black?

he may not have missed a meal but is he still a black man? if anything. you would think his struggle was harder cause he grew up in hawaii. Hawaii is racist as fukk now. at this moment. how you think it was growing up in the time he was there?

but rather than understanding his struggle people rather give him an out an say he made it because. as if being black changes because.

I'll ask this question again...

what's the difference between a black man in Hawaii and a black man in a US inner city?

ill tell you..

nothing, but the amount and type of excuses.

I'm ready for this fight today

This post is very ironic. So you downplay African Americans and their struggle on some "bah you have no excuses" but turn around and tell us "we need to understand Obama's struggle", you yourself seem to act like you don't understand African American struggles and chalk it up to niggas being able to do better but choose to live shitty.

here you go.

I'm not downplaying the struggle....

not sure how you got that.

what I am saying is other people have struggled that are not from the hood. we all have struggles. but being from the hood doesn't automatically mean yours was harder than someone else's who black. struggles are different.

that's why I say...its not location it is mentality.

an nigga please tell me how I don't understand?

why would you assume I dont know?

because I call iout niggas who do stay content?

what that gotta do with the man who busting his ass for his family who didn't make it out YET? they are not the same. but you trynna to put them under one umbrella to defend your argue against the post.

wasted potential is just that.

why is it that everytime somekne says we can do better or you are better...that taken as negative?

is that not what I posted someone was gonna say?

so now encouragement equals not understanding a struggle?

bruh you better than that....reread what you said.

You did say you wanted a fight today so I see you're being argumentative right now. My point is that you have to keep it consistent if you can call out niggas then niggas can call out Obama. It's fair game.

but is it?

the game aint fair.

his mentality was not limited to his locations rules.

no matter what y'all say. there are unwritten rules.

question is why are we allowing fukk niggas to write them?

but as far as people calling out Obama..why are they taking away from his hard work and reducing him to where he was from?

alot of prople ade it out the hoods...

what are black doctors and black lawyers and shit..what are their excuses?

you can disregard that sports people are physically more gifted......but still an excuse.

you just took away from. their hardwork. to get to that point.

feel me

But you don't know whether the people you criticize mentality is limited or not. But either way as far as I can see I don't think people write off his success, some people may just feel like because he didn't grow up around black people (for the most part) that he truly can't identify with black people. If there are black lawyers and doctors chances are they got scholarships to go to school thru academics. Not everybody's situation is the same. And lastly I never once took anything away from anyone who came up from rough upbringings. I simply made one point which was if you can call out niggas, then niggas can call out Obama. Why exactly does him being successful makes him bulletproof to any criticism? At the end of the day it's opinions.

never said he was bulletproof... just asking why is he less black which inturn makes people use that as why he was able.

that's defeatist, is it not?

I'm not saying you...but we can't question his blackness because of location. eventually we will all come up.

how would you feel if you made millions and people told your child they ain't black enough because you got loot now or your wife was white.

will blue ivy not be black enough?

will kaynes kid not be black enough?

what's black enough?

I've never seen anyone say he was less black. But when you grew up around white people is it a stretch to say that he couldn't relate to black people as much?

 

[2stepz_ahead]

now while i see all the stats...all that can be changed with. mentality.

poor is not about location as it's more about the mind.

I have often ran into people who I know for a fact are better than what they portray.

hell. even on this site are constant examples of poor mentality than anything.

case an point....the moment someone says..." you made it out the hood and think". real shit...that statement invalidates anything you say afterwards...simply because you are assuming the location dictated the mentality. why should someone who made it out be proud or a bit arrogant since there are so many reasons why they shouldn't?.

not gonna point out my nigga..but I once heard Obama aint like us cause he from Hawaii so he don't understand the hood.

I have quite a few problems with that statement.

it's like ok. if he was a hybrid from the hood could he still had been president? did he become president because he wasn't hood? why does his location cancel out his understanding the struggle of being black?

he may not have missed a meal but is he still a black man? if anything. you would think his struggle was harder cause he grew up in hawaii. Hawaii is racist as fukk now. at this moment. how you think it was growing up in the time he was there?

but rather than understanding his struggle people rather give him an out an say he made it because. as if being black changes because.

I'll ask this question again...

what's the difference between a black man in Hawaii and a black man in a US inner city?

ill tell you..

nothing, but the amount and type of excuses.

I'm ready for this fight today

This post is very ironic. So you downplay African Americans and their struggle on some "bah you have no excuses" but turn around and tell us "we need to understand Obama's struggle", you yourself seem to act like you don't understand African American struggles and chalk it up to niggas being able to do better but choose to live shitty.

here you go.

I'm not downplaying the struggle....

not sure how you got that.

what I am saying is other people have struggled that are not from the hood. we all have struggles. but being from the hood doesn't automatically mean yours was harder than someone else's who black. struggles are different.

that's why I say...its not location it is mentality.

an nigga please tell me how I don't understand?

why would you assume I dont know?

because I call iout niggas who do stay content?

what that gotta do with the man who busting his ass for his family who didn't make it out YET? they are not the same. but you trynna to put them under one umbrella to defend your argue against the post.

wasted potential is just that.

why is it that everytime somekne says we can do better or you are better...that taken as negative?

is that not what I posted someone was gonna say?

so now encouragement equals not understanding a struggle?

bruh you better than that....reread what you said.

You did say you wanted a fight today so I see you're being argumentative right now. My point is that you have to keep it consistent if you can call out niggas then niggas can call out Obama. It's fair game.

but is it?

the game aint fair.

his mentality was not limited to his locations rules.

no matter what y'all say. there are unwritten rules.

question is why are we allowing fukk niggas to write them?

but as far as people calling out Obama..why are they taking away from his hard work and reducing him to where he was from?

alot of prople ade it out the hoods...

what are black doctors and black lawyers and shit..what are their excuses?

you can disregard that sports people are physically more gifted......but still an excuse.

you just took away from. their hardwork. to get to that point.

feel me

But you don't know whether the people you criticize mentality is limited or not. But either way as far as I can see I don't think people write off his success, some people may just feel like because he didn't grow up around black people (for the most part) that he truly can't identify with black people. If there are black lawyers and doctors chances are they got scholarships to go to school thru academics. Not everybody's situation is the same. And lastly I never once took anything away from anyone who came up from rough upbringings. I simply made one point which was if you can call out niggas, then niggas can call out Obama. Why exactly does him being successful makes him bulletproof to any criticism? At the end of the day it's opinions.

never said he was bulletproof... just asking why is he less black which inturn makes people use that as why he was able.

that's defeatist, is it not?

I'm not saying you...but we can't question his blackness because of location. eventually we will all come up.

how would you feel if you made millions and people told your child they ain't black enough because you got loot now or your wife was white.

will blue ivy not be black enough?

will kaynes kid not be black enough?

what's black enough?

I've never seen anyone say he was less black. But when you grew up around white people is it a stretch to say that he couldn't relate to black people as much?

which type black people...

 

[R0mp]

Struggling and poverty is just part of the identity for a lot of us.

Most of the black ppl I know personally, though, are middle class to upper middle class, def not 'rich', but not impoverished either.

let me stop you there.

while I understand being poor and poverty....it's not nor will ever be part of my identity.

I fought alot for having a smart ass mouth and quick temper...

my identity is what defines me. being quick tempered and smart mouthed was apart of my personality. fighting was not..

I grew up and learned to control my mouth more..but it doesn't change my thoughts.

being poor is not a personality trait. so it can't be an identity..

being able to identify is understanding... being my identity is who I am.

see the difference

don't do that to yourself bruh.

you better than that as your people are.

"for a lot of us", not all of us

 

[2stepz_ahead]

now while i see all the stats...all that can be changed with. mentality.

poor is not about location as it's more about the mind.

I have often ran into people who I know for a fact are better than what they portray.

hell. even on this site are constant examples of poor mentality than anything.

case an point....the moment someone says..." you made it out the hood and think". real shit...that statement invalidates anything you say afterwards...simply because you are assuming the location dictated the mentality. why should someone who made it out be proud or a bit arrogant since there are so many reasons why they shouldn't?.

not gonna point out my nigga..but I once heard Obama aint like us cause he from Hawaii so he don't understand the hood.

I have quite a few problems with that statement.

it's like ok. if he was a hybrid from the hood could he still had been president? did he become president because he wasn't hood? why does his location cancel out his understanding the struggle of being black?

he may not have missed a meal but is he still a black man? if anything. you would think his struggle was harder cause he grew up in hawaii. Hawaii is racist as fukk now. at this moment. how you think it was growing up in the time he was there?

but rather than understanding his struggle people rather give him an out an say he made it because. as if being black changes because.

I'll ask this question again...

what's the difference between a black man in Hawaii and a black man in a US inner city?

ill tell you..

nothing, but the amount and type of excuses.

I'm ready for this fight today

all of the bolded is bullshit

u naive as fuck if u think surroundings don't have shit to do with self-esteem and opportunity

is it a valid excuse to fail when there are better choices to be made? no, but don't act like making it out of the hood when u generations deep isn't an accomplishment

mofos like u love to act like the hood is made that way by accident......there are forces/structures that purposely designed and even today continue to reinforce the hood to be that way..........better go back and check the great Furious Styles for his lyrics my nigga, he was talking some real shit haha

as far as Obama.....if he ain't never missed a meal then yeah he can't relate to the average hood nigga.....statements about him being out of touch are valid

and Hawaii ain't no excuse, I just left there......wasn't even my 1st time there either.......never been to a place with LESS racism ever

so there is plenty of difference between a surfing ass Hawaiian nigga and a black man who legitimately has to worry about stop and frisk today in many US inner cities

an yes. surroundings effect mentality. if you let it.

Your point is well taken, but this is where you're wrong. Surroundings have a profound effect on who you are. And just because something worked for you and/or you were able to overcome the adversity of your surroundings, doesn't mean that everyone else could or should. Surroundings don't have to define you, but ignoring their affects on others makes you seem self-righteous. It's not a question of "if you let it." It's happening whether you know it or not. You can't talk empowerment while putting people down, it's counter-intuitive. Which whether you realize it or not is what you're doing when you deny someone their experience. What you did was special and by recognizing that you can better serve others.

^^^cosign all of this

what @2stepz_ahead is talking sounds just like white people when black folks talk about how institutional racism is an obstacle

whether u choose to let it stop u has nothing to do with whether or not it exists in the 1st place

I'm not saying the obstacle aint there. but how long will we know about the obstacle but not try to conquer it?

or are we just gonna talk about if?

 

[(Nope)]

now while i see all the stats...all that can be changed with. mentality.

poor is not about location as it's more about the mind.

I have often ran into people who I know for a fact are better than what they portray.

hell. even on this site are constant examples of poor mentality than anything.

case an point....the moment someone says..." you made it out the hood and think". real shit...that statement invalidates anything you say afterwards...simply because you are assuming the location dictated the mentality. why should someone who made it out be proud or a bit arrogant since there are so many reasons why they shouldn't?.

not gonna point out my nigga..but I once heard Obama aint like us cause he from Hawaii so he don't understand the hood.

I have quite a few problems with that statement.

it's like ok. if he was a hybrid from the hood could he still had been president? did he become president because he wasn't hood? why does his location cancel out his understanding the struggle of being black?

he may not have missed a meal but is he still a black man? if anything. you would think his struggle was harder cause he grew up in hawaii. Hawaii is racist as fukk now. at this moment. how you think it was growing up in the time he was there?

but rather than understanding his struggle people rather give him an out an say he made it because. as if being black changes because.

I'll ask this question again...

what's the difference between a black man in Hawaii and a black man in a US inner city?

ill tell you..

nothing, but the amount and type of excuses.

I'm ready for this fight today

all of the bolded is bullshit

u naive as fuck if u think surroundings don't have shit to do with self-esteem and opportunity

is it a valid excuse to fail when there are better choices to be made? no, but don't act like making it out of the hood when u generations deep isn't an accomplishment

mofos like u love to act like the hood is made that way by accident......there are forces/structures that purposely designed and even today continue to reinforce the hood to be that way..........better go back and check the great Furious Styles for his lyrics my nigga, he was talking some real shit haha

as far as Obama.....if he ain't never missed a meal then yeah he can't relate to the average hood nigga.....statements about him being out of touch are valid

and Hawaii ain't no excuse, I just left there......wasn't even my 1st time there either.......never been to a place with LESS racism ever

so there is plenty of difference between a surfing ass Hawaiian nigga and a black man who legitimately has to worry about stop and frisk today in many US inner cities

an yes. surroundings effect mentality. if you let it.

Your point is well taken, but this is where you're wrong. Surroundings have a profound effect on who you are. And just because something worked for you and/or you were able to overcome the adversity of your surroundings, doesn't mean that everyone else could or should. Surroundings don't have to define you, but ignoring their affects on others makes you seem self-righteous. It's not a question of "if you let it." It's happening whether you know it or not. You can't talk empowerment while putting people down, it's counter-intuitive. Which whether you realize it or not is what you're doing when you deny someone their experience. What you did was special and by recognizing that you can better serve others.

bruh again...I'm not putting anyone down.

but alot of shit goes on around you that you will ir won't take. but we gonna focus on what you said real fast.

so does this mean those that are around fukk shit will be like that fukk shit? but why didn't they get away from it?

there are people who had two crackheads parents living in gangland yet become a doctor or some shit.

some day that's the exception an not the rule...OK, with all the odds stacked against them. their mentality carried them to greatness. their will.

it's like a rose growning outta concrete...you see it. it's not suppose to happen ...but it did. which means it can happen again.

an why the fukk is making it out the exception an not the rule?

I'm getting a lot of optimism from you and that's great (that's sincere). However, it's okay to strive for more and to still recognize that their are facts in the world. By understanding the narrative, it becomes possible to change the narrative. To that end, I gotta' assume that your question about the exception is rhetorical. Those "exception" questions help us come to solutions (I.E., "what would you change if you could?) In that way, your experience is valuable!

About putting people down, I know that's not your goal and I think I implied as much, but it's something that you're doing when you fault people for not having "the drive." You have to ignore a whole lot of context to look at a black man that grew up in inner-city America on the poverty line and deduce that man to "you don't have the drive." Do you feel like you have the drive? Do you understand why some people might see that as not helpful (or insulting)?