Racial solidarity and class

[Arya Tsaddiq]

Yeah, I've made threads about related themes before -- I do think a lot about this. But hear me out.

I think there are a lot of black people who try to separate themselves from poorer blacks. They don't want people to think that they are poor. So they more or less kind of ostentatiously display their class status. So for example I think middle class blacks tend to dress better than middle class whites, and think this is the reason why.

But here is the thing that a lot of these (confused, lying, sometimes fake) militants want to deny: they do it prevent bad treatment from blacks as well as non-blacks. (Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with militancy per se, just the confused, mendacious variety.)

Anyway, the practice raises questions about whether it is consistent with racial solidarity -- something which I regard as a very good thing.

I don't think it is.

Middle class blacks who go out of their way to always display their class help to sustain the practice of treating people differently based on their class status. So say that displaying your class status actually works to some extent. (That it does not completely work doesn't mean that it doesn't work at all.) This means that by showing some sign of one's class status, one thereby avoids bad treatment. The crucial factor, obviously, is the display of the sign (mostly likely style of dress). But for something to function as such a sign it must be true that poorer blacks don't (generally speaking) display it (or, what amounts to the same thing) that it is mostly middle class blacks who do so. In other words, for people to be able to treat middle class blacks better than poorer blacks, they must be able to distinguish between the two, and displaying one's class status makes this possible. So if middle class blacks were not significantly less likely to dress down as less successful people, people -- both black and white -- would have to think twice about how they treat people based on their personal presentation.

Thoughts?

PS. If you don't really understand what I'm trying to say, ask for clarification. Don't make yourself look dumb.

There is some truth in what you said. But imo it's one of the things I hate about our society on general....people judge you based on how you look. Point blank. Its foolish to do that, but it is a reality for most.

And that whole "dress to impress" mentality is some old school stuff. It came from the era of the boot lickers tho. They wanted to be accepted by white people so bad that they did whatever they could to show they were "different" from the "niggers".

Some of that was passed down to the current generation, but I think it just evolved into something else.

 

[Colin$mackabi$h]

Men or women do this?

 

[A Talented One]

Men or women do this?

Do what? Separate themselves from poorer blacks, or treat people worse because of their apparent class status?

 

[Colin$mackabi$h]

Men or women do this?

Do what? Separate themselves from poorer blacks, or treat people worse because of their apparent class status?

Thats what i was asking which sex do both of them.

 

[A Talented One]

Men or women do this?

Do what? Separate themselves from poorer blacks, or treat people worse because of their apparent class status?

Thats what i was asking which sex do both of them.

I think both separate themselves, but women seem more guilty of treating people worse because of their apparent class status. What do you think?

 

[Beech Oss Neega]

There's nothing wrong with wanting to look your best every time you step out the house. I honestly think poorer people perpetuate what you're talking about more than middle class folks though if you're talking about being a label whore.

Take those ugly ass robin jeans for example. They're real expensive but the only people I ever see wearing them are dustbag niggas. Couple that with a LV damier belt or a gucci and that's half of dusty nigga uniform of the day. Most middle class niggas I know wear regular shit like levis.

 

[Colin$mackabi$h]

Men or women do this?

Do what? Separate themselves from poorer blacks, or treat people worse because of their apparent class status?

Thats what i was asking which sex do both of them.

I think both separate themselves, but women seem more guilty of treating people worse because of their apparent class status. What do you think?

I assume women are notorious for doing such, but I might be lying if I said men dont do it as well.

 

[Colin$mackabi$h]

Why they do it could be obvious but know this...they choose to do it.

Your only concern needs to be if it hurts u or not.