Black folks, why is it when one of us make it, we give them the black community torch

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To really be legit, black people have to be able to compete with the rest of the world on even ground. That means 100% diversity and no "looking out for our own". But that will never happen.
 
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Because helping out "your people" has proven to work. Ask the Jews, Arabs, Mexicans, Chinese, Koreans, etc.
 
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fiat_money;1880887 said:
Word.

My goals>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The "black community"

True,

Unless they family or my friends/acquaintances, Im not really checking for "the black community"
 
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Knives Amilli;1880969 said:
Because helping out "your people" has proven to work. Ask the Jews, Arabs, Mexicans, Chinese, Koreans, etc.

none of these groups are united into a monolithic "people"

the sectarian divisions in jewish culture are extreme and hilarious

the arabs are still divided by tribes

the mexicans are a mixture of spaniards and natives and hate each other

the chinese have hundreds of different ethnicities

the koreans, same deal
 
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Knives Amilli;1880969 said:
Because helping out "your people" has proven to work. Ask the Jews, Arabs, Mexicans, Chinese, Koreans, etc.

The Jews, Asians,Mexicans don't alienate other races money though or strictly cater to their own. They profit off all races!

Oprah would be a fucking fool to specifically cater to African Americans when we make up such a small percentage of the American viewers.
 
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Its part of what comes with being an ethnic minority in a foreign land, most minorities exhibit the same behaviour and when you look at what Africans in the diaspora have been through in the last hundreds years its easy to see why this train of though is exhibited by our people.
 
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KTULU IS BACK;1881110 said:
none of these groups are united into a monolithic "people"

the sectarian divisions in jewish culture are extreme and hilarious

the arabs are still divided by tribes

the mexicans are a mixture of spaniards and natives and hate each other

the chinese have hundreds of different ethnicities

the koreans, same deal

Thats irrelevant, every ethnic group has their in house conflicts, but a Arab would rather deal with a fellow Arab before he deals with a black man.
 
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usmarin3;1881121 said:
The Jews, Asians,Mexicans don't alienate other races money though or strictly cater to their own. They profit off all races!

Oprah would be a fucking fool to specifically cater to African Americans when we make up such a small percentage of the American viewers.

But i don't see anything in the article suggesting this?
 
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usmarin3;1880786 said:
During an interview

on NPR's "Tell Me More," BET co-founder and fellow billionaire Sheila Johnson slammed Ms. Winfrey when asked about the mogul's new OWN network.

“The only advice that I say, let’s open up your circle a little bit more. You know, we love the Dr. Phils. We love the Suze Ormans. Let’s open up. There are other people. And there’s also African-American experts out there that I think she should start bringing on her show that can reach even a wider audience.”

Sheila said she sees Oprah's new venture as a missed opportunity because of its lack of diversity. While saying Oprah has the power to create opportunities for minorities, Sheila said she hopes one day this will become a reality.

“And I think she really should do that and not be afraid to do it. There’s really a lot of great experts out there that really know the businesses at hand. And I’d like to see her open up her circle to do that.”

OWN could use a little color; however, I don't think Oprah has ever used any of her platforms to only provide opportunities for minorities. But Oprah has said herself this new venture is a learning process so maybe there's some changes in the works. Or not. Either way....it's Oprah's and she can do as she pleases. Your thoughts?

Why do we always do this shit, mfs did the same fucking shit with Obama! Why is it when one of us make it in a position of prominence we try to put the black people torch on them and expect them to be every and anything to the black community and strictly cater to us. We are so fucking quick to yell that sell out shit when someone doesn't align to that monolithic thinking!

Change is a slow process, nothing is gonna happen over night!

What was wrong with what Mrs. Shelia Johnson said? She's right....if the Jewish, Chinese, Latinos can build together why Oprah shouldn't bring our own people in her outfit to diversify? She's always catering to the White audience...everyone knows this. Sorry you missed that memo.
 
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garv;1881171 said:
But i don't see anything in the article suggesting this?

Well i kind of got that when she said they needed people beyond Dr. Phil and Suzzy Orman, because i'm quite sure both appeal to African Americans and white people also.
 
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I wouldn't say "strictly" cater to us. I mean Oprah has done ALOT of good for Africans and Africans Americans. I wouldn't go so far as to make a public statment about it, but it would be nice for her to put a Black person up on game the next time she decides to do so. Phil McGraw, Dr. Oz, Rachel Ray all White. It it were me, I'd get Black people but that's just me. She has no obligation to do so, but it sure would be nice.
 
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Disciplined InSight;1881195 said:
What was wrong with what Mrs. Shelia Johnson said? She's right....if the Jewish, Chinese, Latinos can build together why Oprah shouldn't bring our own people in her outfit to diversify? She's always catering to the White audience...everyone knows this. Sorry you missed that memo.

Because Rome wasn't built in a day and Oprah shouldn't have to carry the torch for all black folks. Plus Sheila Johnson ass should be the last fucking person talking about how black people are perceived, considering what BET has represented for the last 30 years (one big ass cliche and bag of stereotypes).
 
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usmarin3;1881198 said:
Well i kind of got that when she said they needed people beyond Dr. Phil and Suzzy Orman, because i'm quite sure both appeal to African Americans and white people also.

Theres nothing wrong with having diversity is what she said, and i agree she could be having the Dr Michael Eril Dysons and Dr Phils on her show without compromising her ratings.
 
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Disciplined InSight;1881195 said:
What was wrong with what Mrs. Shelia Johnson said? She's right....if the Jewish, Chinese, Latinos can build together why Oprah shouldn't bring our own people in her outfit to diversify? She's always catering to the White audience...everyone knows this. Sorry you missed that memo.

Oprah catering for a white audience is part of the reason why she is a billionaire though, black people need to stop holding her in high regard when she hasn't done anything for us.
 
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Iheart~Cali;1881200 said:
I wouldn't say "strictly" cater to us. I mean Oprah has done ALOT of good for Africans and Africans Americans. I wouldn't go so far as to make a public statment about it, but it would be nice for her to put a Black person up on game the next time she decides to do so. Phil McGraw, Dr. Oz, Rachel Ray all White. It it were me, I'd get Black people but that's just me. She has no obligation to do so, but it sure would be nice.

I could of sworn she is giving her best friend Gayle a show. She seems to be playing it smart to me and appealing to all people, she even gave that Asian broad Lisa Ling her own show.
 
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usmarin3;1881260 said:
I could of sworn she is giving her best friend Gayle a show. She seems to be playing it smart to me and appealing to all people, she even gave that Asian broad Lisa Ling her own show.

Last I checked, Lisa Ling wasn't appealing to the Black community. She's Chinese though. Oprah's getting closer.
 
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garv;1881232 said:
Theres nothing wrong with having diversity is what she said, and i agree she could be having the Dr Michael Eril Dysons and Dr Phils on her show without compromising her ratings.

Come on dude, you really think Michael Eric Dyson would be a good look to Oprahs audience, the mf comes off militant as hell. That nigga definetly don't suit a Oprah audience, he seems more like a separatist compared to what Oprah represents.
 
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Iheart~Cali;1881278 said:
Last I checked, Lisa Ling wasn't appealing to the Black community. She's Chinese though. Oprah's getting closer.

LOL reread what i said, she is appealing to all audience.
 
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