Who was better? Grant Hill or T-Mac

[jaxn]

Your right in a sense, only because Hill was the better player the prior season. T Mac was never suppose to be a Pippen to anyone in the league, hence why he left Toronto.

If the 2 ever got a chance to play together it wouldve been easily seen as to who really wouldve been Pippen and who wouldve been Jordan lmao smh

Basic stats show us that Hill was never built to be a Jordan, but more so a Pippen.

As where T Mac, well his 30ppg avgs and numerous scoring titles point more in Jordan's direction.

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naah..T Mac was about to be out of the league until his cousin, Vince came into the league and woke this guy out of his coma..When T-Mac left Toronto, he didn't go to Orlando to be a Wade/Lebron item..it was Grant's team..it was actually supposed to be Grant and Tim Duncan, but Tim opted to stay with San An and well, T-Mac ended up there..

 

[Carlos Loozer]

naah..T Mac was about to be out of the league until his cousin

Please stop posting, i had to sign in just to say that.

 

[jaxn]

Please stop posting, i had to sign in just to say that.

learn about the game before commenting..These are the words of T-Mac himself....or don't you remember his first 4 years in the league??? You know when he didn't do shit? T-Mac did not begin to do ANYTHING until Vince Carter came into the league.

T-Mac is a great player..hell of an athlete, but folks need to come down with this nonsense.

 

[Carlos Loozer]

learn about the game before commenting..These are the words of T-Mac himself....or don't you remember his first 4 years in the league??? You know when he didn't do shit? T-Mac did not begin to do ANYTHING until Vince Carter came into the league.

T-Mac is a great player..hell of an athlete, but folks need to come down with this nonsense.

Please stop posting. Tmac was 18 straight out of high school and played 18 mpg and put up good numbers considering his playing time, was also the 9th pick in the entire draft, vince came the next year, so please explain to me what you're saying you fuckin nincompoop? Tmac's 4th year in the league he averaged over 26 ppg, so once again explain that stupid shit you're saying?

 

[jaxn]

How so, when both players arrived after the 2000 season? *confused face*

because Grant was a leader, better player and Tracy was a side kick??

It was ANTICIPATED to be Hill's team due to him being the more reputable player and up to that point had accomplished more.

see above

But your a damn liar if you sit there and say that Hill, who has never averaged more than 25ppg in his career when he was indeed the GO TO GUY on his team, was gonna be Jordan.

Thats just laughable to say the least. He aint cut from that cloth!

and you sir have no knowledge whatsoever..

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What he was gonna do, was feed the ball to the BEAST and average a remarkable 21ppg, 7asst, 7reb.. while the BEAST avgd... hmmm... 27ppg, 5asst, 6reb... so stop with your bullshit about him being Jordan.

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are you fucking retarded? you must be..I'm using Jordan as an analogy

When asked who do you see being the next you, between Hill and a young Penny, Jordan answered.... Penny!... not Hill!... because the 2 have nothing in common.

Yeah Mike did say that about Penny...what does that have to do with Grant?

Up to that point in their careers, Hill, could barely make a jumpshot and asking him to hit a 3 ball was like asking Luc Longley to run PG.. lol.. T Mac was superior to him in every regard offensively, guy.

up to that point in their careers..Grant was seen as the man, while Tracy was seen as the sidekick..that was fun, let's play again.

 

[jaxn]

Please stop posting. Tmac was 18 straight out of high school and played 18 mpg and put up good numbers considering his playing time, was also the 9th pick in the entire draft, vince came the next year, so please explain to me what you're saying you fuckin nincompoop? Tmac's 4th year in the league he averaged over 26 ppg, so once again explain that stupid shit you're saying?

Right, Isiah drafted him, but he didn't do shit, but if that makes you guys sleep better at night, that's great!! Now, tell me, did Tracy begin to ball before or after Vince came and awed the league with his gameplay?

 

[jaxn]

oh and 4 years was a typo, but the point remains the same..if you actually WATCHED back then, you'd know this.

 

[Carlos Loozer]

Right, Isiah drafted him, but he didn't do shit, but if that makes you guys sleep better at night, that's great!! Now, tell me, did Tracy begin to ball before or after Vince came and awed the league with his gameplay?

You're a proven moron

 

[Carlos Loozer]

oh and 4 years was a typo, but the point remains the same..if you actually WATCHED back then, you'd know this.

Lmao typical stupid nigga go to argument when nothing they say is actually backed up by the facts

 

[Carlos Loozer]

because Grant was a leader, better player and Tracy was a side kick??

Grant was such a leader never getting out of the first round with better teams than tmac had, not getting out until a couple of years ago, such a better leader.

 

[Carlos Loozer]

Man it's clear that tmac was better, and i dont know why people are even bringing up jordan when evaluating talent, doesn't help ANY point.

 

[So ILL]

Grant Hill, by far......

 

[Carlos Loozer]

Grant Hill, by far......

Explain son

 

[KeepOnPushing]

Grant Hill......

 

[Carlos Loozer]

Why even ask the ignoramous that when it's clear the boy knows nothing and just typed that because it's less letters to type.

That or the boy had a few pairs of Fila Grant Hill's growing up.

If niggas aint coming with an explanation or sumn that backs up their claim, their opinion is null and void.

They just wanted to add to their post count.

Word. These niggas just hype these 90's players to prop up jordan, all it is. It's to prop up jordan and belittle kobe. They know tmac was better than grant, but if they said that, they would have to say kobe played against a better player at his position, they would never.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Word. These niggas just hype these 90's players to prop up jordan, all it is. It's to prop up jordan and belittle kobe. They know tmac was better than grant, but if they said that, they would have to say kobe played against a better player at his position, they would never.

Pretty much the same thing I got from these dumbass responses.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Woah, woah, woah... now im under the impression that Carlos and NBTT think that Kobe is better than MJ... lololololol.

Well im familiar with Loozer's post history, for when i was a lurker you made me laugh, still do. As for NBTT, im not as familiar.

But just because Kobe played against more talented swingmen, which i can agree on, thats not to say that he played against better defensive schemes and teams.

Lets be honest, once u blow by your defender in the Kobe era, who the fuck was in the paint to tell you that you cant score, huh??...... i'll wait.

With the exception of Howard there isnt anyone in the game thats a formidable paint defender, where as in the Jordan era... tuh.... we'll just leave it at that.

Not to mention the ticky tack fouls and the discontinued hand checking thats going on in todays NBA.

Kobe played against superior offensive talents but MJ played against better defenders as a whole.

MJ >>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe.

Kobe is clearly better than Jordan, but that's another topic. Stay relevant to the thread topic.

 

[R.D.]

Grant Fucking Hill though

Niggas are really arguing that Tamia's Husband is better than T Mac

Best player in the league from 2000-04 T-Mac....We cant be talking bout the same Tracy

I think some of yall are talking bout this nigga

 

[VulcanRaven]

Woah, woah, woah... now im under the impression that Carlos and NBTT think that Kobe is better than MJ... lololololol.

Well im familiar with Loozer's post history, for when i was a lurker you made me laugh, still do. As for NBTT, im not as familiar.

But just because Kobe played against more talented swingmen, which i can agree on, thats not to say that he played against better defensive schemes and teams.

Lets be honest, once u blow by your defender in the Kobe era, who the fuck was in the paint to tell you that you cant score, huh??...... i'll wait.

With the exception of Howard there isnt anyone in the game thats a formidable paint defender, where as in the Jordan era... tuh.... we'll just leave it at that.

Not to mention the ticky tack fouls and the discontinued hand checking thats going on in todays NBA.

Kobe played against superior offensive talents but MJ played against better defenders as a whole.

MJ >>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe.

Kobe played against better teams period.No team that Jordan faced as a winner (he lost to the Bird,Isiah & Magic teams when they were in their prime) were better than the Kings,Spurs,Celtics,Nuggets and Maverick teams that Kobe went against and then you had the Rocket team that failed because of T-Mac.Jordan was the most dominate player during his championship run because other teams were not as good.Reggie was on his own as was Mutumbo and Malone.Kobe had to contend against Bron,Wade,Garnette,Billups,Ben Wallace,Rasheed Wallace,Durant,Melo,T-mac,nash,Dirk,Howard and Duncan.If larry Johnson and Penny had lived up to the hype then we don't know how many ships Jordan would have won.Then the Spurs also had a dynasty along with the Lakers and no other team had a dynasty but the Bulls.lol@ bringing up fouls when the reason those fouls exist are because of Jordan.They are the Jordan rules.I put Jordan over Kobe only because he came first and influenced Kobe,but not for the competition he faced and talent.A young Kobe won against better teams than Jordan did and won against the other dominate players who also won ships unlike Jordan.

 

[Paul Hate.]

Grant Hill man,...lol.Would have been top 10-15 player of all time if he didnt Mr.Glass syndrome during his prime years..