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nah. Tmac was better than melo. Only Kobe had similar numbersCutler 26 INT's LOL!;3521276 said:T-Mac was on Kobe level from about 2002-2005.
He was Carmelo before Carmelo. Could score from anywhere on the court...
one_manshow;3521329 said:^majority of these dudes on here look at stats, dunks and highlights to dictate who is better any two players.
Grant hill these past three seasons still contributed to the suns but where is t-mac today?
Further proves when you have multidimensional game you can stay in the league for years and not durations.
bignorm73;3520876 said:similar stories. Similar size, similar game.
Grant was hailed as the successor to jordan.
T-mac once was considered on kobe's level.
Who ya got?
let's try to focus on thier primes, and not these old, bad knee/ankle shells that run the court today.
i am taking grant, for a better total game and passing ability.
major pain;3521336 said:uhhhhhhhhhhh
one_manshow;3521359 said:If you want to talk "primes" here are the facts if you need clarification or stats you know where to check.
Scoring= T-mac
Ball handling/passing= Hill
Ability to lead a team= Hill
Defense=Hill
Rebounder=Hill
@ 1st bolded- fact that you had nerve to say that shows your talking BSone_manshow;3521359 said:If you want to talk "primes" here are the facts if you need clarification or stats you know where to check.
Scoring= T-mac
Ball handling/passing= Hill
Ability to lead a team= Hill
Defense=Hill
Rebounder=Hill
rap doctor;3521410 said:@ 1st bolded- fact that you had nerve to say that shows your talking BS
@2nd bolded- who the hell did grant hill lead ?
afromo;3521454 said:lol has grant hill ever done a crossover? lmao
LOL win shares alone shows who is better and has more value. Tmac got him in PPG, win shares and PER nigga. Its not close. The only niggas besides tmac to do that in the same season this decade was Kobe and Lebron.playmaker88;3521697 said:Fantasy post.
Whats up with this flawed logic of ppl rattling off a bunch of names of players that ppl played with
and a couple of stats.. to "VALIDATE" see he played with bums he got them here.. hes better.
Being a better player makes you a better player.. sorry try again
Chasin Benjamins;3521678 said:Tmac..... and its not even close, even tho Hill was a hell of a player and had greatness written all over him before succumbing to injuries.. Tmac was willing that team to the playoffs year in and year out with a winning record while playing alongside the likes of..
Mike Miller
Darrell Armstrong
Troy Hudson
Pat Garrity
Horace Grant.. washed!
Monty Williams
Patrick Ewing.. washed!
Jaren Jackson
Steven Hunter
Bo Outlaw
Don Reid
Andrew Declerq
Jud Buechler
Jerryl Sasser
Dee Brown
hahahahahahaha...... and almost single handedly beat a stacked Milwaukee Bucks team and also had a solid Detroit team on the ropes in the 1st round of the playoffs, back to back years.
That in itself should be a testament to what kind of unique talent this guy was.
The dude was simply unbelievable in his prime and if not derailed by injuries wouldve been a top 3 SG/SF of all time... fact!!
Mad Jack;3521978 said:yet and still he could not make it out of the first round with that stacked rockets team he had for at least 2 years straight.fact.that rockets team was more complete than the 2010-11 miami heat team that made it all the way to the finals.like i said before,if you replace tmac with jordan,kobe or wade on that team they would have been a dynasty.tracy was just a scorer like melo,he did not improve his team and became a hindrance to that great rockets team.
bignorm73;3520876 said:Similar stories. Similar size, similar game.
Grant was hailed as the successor to Jordan.
T-Mac once was considered on Kobe's level.
Who ya got?
Let's try to focus on thier primes, and not these old, bad knee/ankle shells that run the court today.
i am taking Grant, for a better total game and passing ability.
Coo Coo Cal's Beanie;3521782 said:LOL win shares alone shows who is better and has more value. Tmac got him in PPG, win shares and PER nigga. Its not close. The only niggas besides tmac to do that in the same season this decade was Kobe and Lebron.
eff all the other BS you talking boutTommy bilfiger;3522436 said:[video=youtube;0ySvyx2cMPY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ySvyx2cMPY[/video]
Yea
Grant Hill>>>>T mac
T mac is overrated and another player the ic has on a pedestal
Duke had 5-6 seasons were he shot the ball 20+ times and averaged 25-30 ppg
He did not make teams better,he did not impact games outside of scoring,he did not play defense,he did not have an all around game
T mac let a team go 0-19 with him as the leader
Also derrick shot the same fg %,averaged the same ppg,and shot the ball 21 times a game like t mac
So basically anybody can shoot 20-21 fga's and average 25ppg like t mac did
Ya'll overrate the shit out dude
nycest_1;3522393 said:real answer is Grant Hill
he learned how to play the game and not rely purely on athletecism.
this is why with a bad set of wheels homie is still a valuable asset in the league while tmac is competing with rick brunson for an official nba jersey collection.
in his prime Grant was just as athletic and knew the game.
