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is a pacifist, egalitarian who is quite possibly androgynous he also has no problems being a cock hold and i don't say that to disrespect him he admitted it. @Tragedy1 was previously @Ubuntu1 he really does not care for black people more than he does anyone else.
 
Kwan Dai;8784822 said:
Gotcha so, you went straight for the High School retort. "Well, my friends did it". Gotcha.

I don't understand.

We can't unite unless we know that their are Blacks willing to be unapologetically Black and comfortable in their own damn skin.

I'm not proud or ashamed to be black. I don't think black unity is important. That's not to say that I'm necessarily against black pride, on paper, or some kind of personal pan-Africanist mindset if it's compatible with egalitarianism and compassion for out-group members. But I don't feel more connected to arrogant, cruel black people who have no objective sense of justice and fairness or basic human decency than I do compassionate, soft-hearted white people who attempt to be reasonable and impartial. I can't forgive black people who wrong me or other people just because they're black and I have no incentive to 'cape' for white people or play Uncle Tom's advocate, as decent as a lot of them are, because they're generally no better or worse than we are.

I am not going to tell another Black who to lay with, however, anyone wanting to truly end racism and uplift the Black community wouldn't be wedding whites.

What are you basing this on? I don't necessarily agree with the idea of using interracial relationships to end racism but it's not hard to imagine how more interracial relationships could help to do that. I don't think uplifting the black community necessarily has anything to do with how we relate to white people one way or the other. I don't agree with monogamy in general and unless children are involved, a relationship, for someone who was non-monogamous, in my opinion, wouldn't really have the political and social significance that a 'special' one of a kind, monogamous one would. If you can have multiple black, white, Asian, Latino, Middle Eastern etc. partners what difference would it make?

That's my take. You don't preserve the Rhino by breeding it with a Hippo. So, to ensure that Black folks will actually preserve their people and culture they should be first attempting to rebuild the family unit by marrying with their race.

That makes sense but I don't care about preserving the black race or any specific black culture. I want to live in a world where people are compassionate and happy. If every currently existing black person lives a long, happy life and dies of old age, it doesn't matter to me whether or not new black people are brought into existence.

It's odd how you throw out logic but yet that simple logic flew right over your head.

It might have because I don't understand your reasoning.

Another question that comes to mind is, why is this Black Woman trying to end racism? Blacks didn't create it.

Human beings created racism which is just one form of tribalism that has existed for as long as we have, long before anyone might have been aware of phenotypically different humans in other parts of the world.

You don't find it odd that her white husband isn't the one trying to end racism? Why is everyone except whites trying to end racism?

How do you know that her husband isn't trying to help end racism (I don't necessarily think racism is at fault here, either, I don't know one way or the other). Some white people have sacrificed their lives to end racism, you know this, but again, you use an assumed 'most' to justify disregarding clear exceptions because they don't stand out like the (supposedly majority racist) crowd does. Why can't you bother to add a measly 'most'? There's no way you wrote this never having heard of John Brown or the whites who participated in the civil rights movement.

is a pacifist, egalitarian who is quite possibly androgynous he also has no problems being a cock hold and i don't say that to disrespect him he admitted it. @Tragedy1 was previously @Ubuntu1 he really does not care for black people more than he does anyone else.

I am not a pacifist, not even in terms of the ideals that I hold. I am willing to use violence in some practical and theoretical situations, as a necessary evil. There is no way that I can claim to be an egalitarian even though an egalitarian is the kind of man I want to be. A 'cuckold' is a man who is OK with his partner having affairs with other men, or technically just a man whose partner does have affairs with other men, right? If I had a girlfriend I would support her sharing sexual, physical or some kind of emotional intimacy with other men but I'm never going to have a girlfriend.

I don't care more about black people than I do about anyone else because I have no incentive to. They are no different, they are the exact same in all the ways that matter. They are unpredictable, laughably irrational, egocentric and fundamentally mysterious and alien to me as the vast majority of human beings of every ethnic and racial group are. 'None' of you have any objective or reasonable sense of fairness or decency, you can and will rationalize anything based on your own backward intuitions, biases and feelings and carry on like you're not doing just that. Honestly, where could I even begin, I can't even necessarily say specifically what my problem with 99.9% of you is because your reasoning and ethical compass is just that bizarre to me it's like something I could never imagine if I didn't live on this planet with you, you're like people who think milk is 5 squared + purple because the insanity the insanity is Mars. Race, ethnicity and culture has nothing to do with it. I am just not a member of your species because what goes on in your minds is clearly nothing like how I perceive reality.

 
Tragedy1;8785084 said:
Kwan Dai;8784822 said:
Gotcha so, you went straight for the High School retort. "Well, my friends did it". Gotcha.

I don't understand.

We can't unite unless we know that their are Blacks willing to be unapologetically Black and comfortable in their own damn skin.

I'm not proud or ashamed to be black. I don't think black unity is important. That's not to say that I'm necessarily against black pride, on paper, or some kind of personal pan-Africanist mindset if it's compatible with egalitarianism and compassion for out-group members. But I don't feel more connected to arrogant, cruel black people who have no objective sense of justice and fairness or basic human decency than I do compassionate, soft-hearted white people who attempt to be reasonable and impartial. I can't forgive black people who wrong me or other people just because they're black and I have no incentive to 'cape' for white people or play Uncle Tom's advocate, as decent as a lot of them are, because they're generally no better or worse than we are.

I am not going to tell another Black who to lay with, however, anyone wanting to truly end racism and uplift the Black community wouldn't be wedding whites.

What are you basing this on? I don't necessarily agree with the idea of using interracial relationships to end racism but it's not hard to imagine how more interracial relationships could help to do that. I don't think uplifting the black community necessarily has anything to do with how we relate to white people one way or the other. I don't agree with monogamy in general and unless children are involved, a relationship, for someone who was non-monogamous, in my opinion, wouldn't really have the political and social significance that a 'special' one of a kind, monogamous one would. If you can have multiple black, white, Asian, Latino, Middle Eastern etc. partners what difference would it make?

That's my take. You don't preserve the Rhino by breeding it with a Hippo. So, to ensure that Black folks will actually preserve their people and culture they should be first attempting to rebuild the family unit by marrying with their race.

That makes sense but I don't care about preserving the black race or any specific black culture. I want to live in a world where people are compassionate and happy. If every currently existing black person lives a long, happy life and dies of old age, it doesn't matter to me whether or not new black people are brought into existence.

It's odd how you throw out logic but yet that simple logic flew right over your head.

It might have because I don't understand your reasoning.

Another question that comes to mind is, why is this Black Woman trying to end racism? Blacks didn't create it.

Human beings created racism which is just one form of tribalism that has existed for as long as we have, long before anyone might have been aware of phenotypically different humans in other parts of the world.

You don't find it odd that her white husband isn't the one trying to end racism? Why is everyone except whites trying to end racism?

How do you know that her husband isn't trying to help end racism (I don't necessarily think racism is at fault here, either, I don't know one way or the other). Some white people have sacrificed their lives to end racism, you know this, but again, you use an assumed 'most' to justify disregarding clear exceptions because they don't stand out like the (supposedly majority racist) crowd does. Why can't you bother to add a measly 'most'? There's no way you wrote this never having heard of John Brown or the whites who participated in the civil rights movement.

is a pacifist, egalitarian who is quite possibly androgynous he also has no problems being a cock hold and i don't say that to disrespect him he admitted it. @Tragedy1 was previously @Ubuntu1 he really does not care for black people more than he does anyone else.

I am not a pacifist, not even in terms of the ideals that I hold. I am willing to use violence in some practical and theoretical situations, as a necessary evil. There is no way that I can claim to be an egalitarian even though an egalitarian is the kind of man I want to be. A 'cuckold' is a man who is OK with his partner having affairs with other men, or technically just a man whose partner does have affairs with other men, right? If I had a girlfriend I would support her sharing sexual, physical or some kind of emotional intimacy with other men but I'm never going to have a girlfriend.

I don't care more about black people than I do about anyone else because I have no incentive to. They are no different, they are the exact same in all the ways that matter. They are unpredictable, laughably irrational, egocentric and fundamentally mysterious and alien to me as the vast majority of human beings of every ethnic and racial group are. 'None' of you have any objective or reasonable sense of fairness or decency, you can and will rationalize anything based on your own backward intuitions, biases and feelings and carry on like you're not doing just that. Honestly, where could I even begin, I can't even necessarily say specifically what my problem with 99.9% of you is because your reasoning and ethical compass is just that bizarre to me it's like something I could never imagine if I didn't live on this planet with you, you're like people who think milk is 5 squared + purple because the insanity the insanity is Mars. Race, ethnicity and culture has nothing to do with it. I am just not a member of your species because what goes on in your minds is clearly nothing like how I perceive reality.

Okay so you are not exactly a pacifist but the bold makes you a cuckold and a egalitarian not having any form of ingroup racial,cultural or ethnic bias is not human. You are the weirdo not us.Your whole stance is fucking ridiculous because it ignores human instincts.

In our natural behavior Humanity is more like the chimpanzees than we are like the bonobos. Do you know the social and psychological differences between chimps and bonobos??? bonobos are matriarchal, bisexual, polyamorous smaller weaker apes that solve all there issues with sex. Bonobos have a much more egalitarian and gender equal society they evolved in an area in which they had no natural predators and an abundance of food.

chimps are bigger, stronger,tribal, more intelligent and far more aggressive

You are a bonobo in a world of chimpanzees.
 
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Zzombie you are the dumbest person I've ever seen online. I've had a couple of PM chats about you with others and it looks like this is your normal behaviour. You one sad individual, I'm glad I'm not you.

You do realise humans evolve over time? Civilisation grows and develops. You still think like someone in a tribe a thousand years ago.

The difference between humans and other species, like apes, is our mental capacity. Sadly you have less than an ape.
 
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Mrs. Me Too;8785213 said:
Zzombie you are the dumbest person I've ever seen online. I've had a couple of PM chats about you with others and it looks like this is your normal behaviour. You one sad individual, I'm glad I'm not you.

You do realise humans evolve over time? Civilisation grows and develops. You still think like someone in a tribe a thousand years ago.

The difference between humans and other species, like apes, is our mental capacity. Sadly you have less than an ape.

We have not evolved that much you silly hoe. WE are very intelligent creatures but our base instincts remain the same therefore we rape, kill, murder etc etc etc all for resources and genetic dominance therefore in any war lots and lots of women get raped. It's nothing more than an outcome to human instinct. You are probably not intelligent enough to see the distinction between the intellectual capacity/technological ability of a species and their natural instincts.
 
We are no different from the Greeks, tang Chinese, Romans, samurai, Zulu or mongols human society is mostly just an outgrowth of our biology and A need for survival and this urge for genetic,personal and cultural survival is where racism really comes from.

just study world history, study the actions of Europeans yesterday and today. You will see the same pattern the same thing as two groups of chimps fighting over chimp pussy and territory. The only difference is we are more aware and more complex
 
I studied Alexander the great at college. The Macedonians or Greeks if you want to call them that did not do a lot of things you claim and that was over 2000 years ago. Sure they slaughtered entire cities if they made they seige but otherwise they strived to keep the local faiths and customs in fact and allow the locals to learn be as they were. He married a Persian woman and married in their customs. He strived for world unity (of course through violent world domination) but he wasn't like say the Nazi (your mates) and didn't think the Macedonian way was superior. He wanted to share knowledge with the Persian empire. Anyway I'm rambling and totally wasting my time :).
 
Mrs. Me Too;8783894 said:
Like Water;8783884 said:
Mrs. Me Too;8783858 said:
Morons everywhere. Beyonce music was "reportedly banned from one companies radio network". That hasn't even been confirmed by any decent site.

Yeah so sure the UK doesn't want Beyonce in the country you fucking simpleton.

And yes Jamaican nazi zzombie the UK is far ahead of America in regards to race relations. I've lived in both countries and they aren't even close.

I'm the moron when you hailed white muthafuckas as the reason race relations were improving. You're the reason we still scratching and clawing to get a piece right now, dumbass. You can't be responsible for things getting better when you're the reason they're bad in the first place.

As I said before, you can't tell black American men and women about racism when you've never experienced it. I'm training young black men and women right now in armed and unarmed combat just to make themselves feel safer. And trust me when I tell you it's not so they can protect themselves from people that look like them.

So how you gon tell me a muthafuckin thing when you can't even fathom an iota of what it feels like to be looked at and treated as a lesser person?

Ffs can people please talk facts and not random shite.

". First, we find that during the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 560,600 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.9 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites. This figure is consistent with reports from 2008, the last year DOJ released similar statistics. Perhaps not coincidentally, that was the year Mr. Obama was elected president.

Interestingly, we find that violent interracial crime involving blacks and Hispanics occurs in almost exactly the same proportions as black/white crime: Blacks are the attackers 82.5 percent of the time, while Hispanics are attackers only 17.5 percent of the time.

Some observers argue that what causes the overwhelming preponderance of black-on-white over white-on-black violence is “chance of encounter,” due to the fact that there are five times as many whites as blacks in the American population. However, there are only about 30 percent more Hispanics than blacks, yet black-on-Hispanic violence is almost as lopsided as black-on-white violence. This suggests blacks may be deliberately targeting both whites and Hispanics.

Using figures for the 2013 racial mix of the population–62.2 percent white, 17.1 percent Hispanic, 13.2 percent black–we can calculate the average likelihood of a person of each race attacking the other. A black is 27 times more likely to attack a white and 8 times more likely to attack a Hispanic than the other way around. A Hispanic is eight times more likely to attack a white than vice versa.

Figures indicate that blacks are also 12 times more likely to be attacked by another black person than other races "

So you talking utter shit @"Like Water"

This bitch went full racist!

You do realize cop murders ( even ones under investigation) doesn't get counted into murder statistics.?

Crime stats in america are skewed

This graph is just over a 5 month period...so imagine what a year looks like

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Mass shootings

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Mrs. Me Too;8785278 said:
I studied Alexander the great at college. The Macedonians or Greeks if you want to call them that did not do a lot of things you claim and that was over 2000 years ago. Sure they slaughtered entire cities if they made they seige but otherwise they strived to keep the local faiths and customs in fact and allow the locals to learn be as they were. He married a Persian woman and married in their customs. He strived for world unity (of course through violent world domination) but he wasn't like say the Nazi (your mates) and didn't think the Macedonian way was superior. He wanted to share knowledge with the Persian empire. Anyway I'm rambling and totally wasting my time :).

Alexander the great went to war and killed people end of fucking story. Focus on making an intelligent comment instead my comparing me to a Nazi especially since i don't advocate the industrial slaughter of whole ethnic groups nor do i think my race is superior.
 
How is that full racist? Muppet.

Yeah well done, your first graph show that 2x blacks were shot than whites. Now look at the crime rates you idiot. Blacks have way more than x2 on crime. No it isn't because they are black, it is because of their situation I.E. in poverty etc. So with all stats there is a reason behind them. Smh and you simpletons.

Edit. The mass shooting stat is also representative of the % break down of population of America but I wouldn't expect idiots to grasp that simple fact.

Remember the population break down then look at my violent crime stats. Like I said it is to do with outside influences and not race but I'm talking to people with the intellect of a sloth.
 
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Mrs. Me Too;8785372 said:
How is that full racist? Muppet.

Yeah well done, your first graph show that 2x blacks were shot than whites. Now look at the crime rates you idiot. Blacks have way more than x2 on crime. No it isn't because they are black, it is because of their situation I.E. in poverty etc. So with all stats there is a reason behind them. Smh and you simpletons.

Edit. The mass shooting stat is also representative of the % break down of population of America but I wouldn't expect idiots to grasp that simple fact.

No it's because the cops target and harshly enforce themselves on black communities meanwhile there is more drugs and prostitution going on in the white suburbs that goes unpunished
 
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Mrs. Me Too;8785372 said:
How is that full racist? Muppet.

Yeah well done, your first graph show that 2x blacks were shot than whites. Now look at the crime rates you idiot. Blacks have way more than x2 on crime. No it isn't because they are black, it is because of their situation I.E. in poverty etc. So with all stats there is a reason behind them. Smh and you simpletons.

Edit. The mass shooting stat is also representative of the % break down of population of America but I wouldn't expect idiots to grasp that simple fact.

Remember the population break down then look at my violent crime stats. Like I said it is to do with outside influences and not race but I'm talking to people with the intellect of a sloth.

Stop it. You didn't say anything about contributing factors in your initial Fox News post. Now you're bringing it up cuz I had to put in your place. Don't try to cook the books now to make yourself look smart and rational. Neither of which you are, I might add.
 
You what , are you two users as I was talking to copper? I didn't know I had to fully explain every post so people wouldn't jump to negative conclusions.
 
The Lonious Monk;8784638 said:
skpjr78;8784599 said:
Get your talk on bruh. Nobody is stopping you. But while you're over there telling these cac the same shit that Frederick Douglass tried to tell their great great granddaddys and the sane shit that WE DuBouis tried to tell their great grandaddys, and the same shit that Dr. King tried to tell their grandaddys and the same shit that Jessie Jackson tried to tell their fathers and the sane shit that Obama is trying to tell them now. While you're doing all that talking and reasoning with the devil i'll be right here teaching my daughter the truth and showing her how to swerve these cacs and how to be the great woman the most high created her to be.

Good luck trying to get the devil to be less demonic. For 400+ years they have ignored and mistreated everyone else before you who tried to do the same shit. Maybe you will be the one negro to get through to them but don't hold your breath. Good luck my dude.

I didn't say I'm personally trying to get White people to do anything. I relate to them on whatever level I can relate and leave it that. Outside of work, I don't really even have too much dealing with white people, and work isn't the place for those types of discussions anyway. My only point is that it's not very intelligent to say that blacks as a whole should stop trying to educate whites in America. If every black person adopts that mentality, the black plight in America will never improve. Every person you brought up managed to accomplish some improvement for the blacks around them and every one of them had white allies, so acting like all their words were wasted is silly.

I never said their words were wasted I just said I'm not willing to repeat them. those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I've learned that the masses of white people in this nation hate my black ass and yours to. I've learned that no matter how much you try to get along and befriend them the masses of white people will continue to harbor evil towards us. I've learned that the masses of white people have ignored all of the great men and women that the most high sent to get them to change their ways. I've learned to accept the masses of white people for who and what they are.

I've also learned that its more productive to spend my time and energy trying to better myself than it is trying to better them. so feel free to continue trying to make peace with the descendants of indian killers and slave traders. do what you the most high puts on your spirit to do. I promise I wont stop you. but while you go around repeating the ignored words of God's prophets to people who refuse to listen I'll be raising my young queen in training to be the woman the most high created her to be. I'm more concerned with raising her than I am in changing the mind of the masses of white people. but do you. after 400+ years of ignoring ALL of God's prophets maybe you are the one magical negro who can finally get the masses of white people to change their ways. Godspeed, good luck and as the wu said protect your neck.
 
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Mrs. Me Too;8785372 said:
How is that full racist? Muppet.



Yeah well done, your first graph show that 2x blacks were shot than whites.
Now look at the crime rates you idiot. Blacks have way more than x2 on crime. No it isn't because they are black, it is because of their situation I.E. in poverty etc. So with all stats there is a reason behind them. Smh and you simpletons.

Edit. The mass shooting stat is also representative of the % break down of population of America but I wouldn't expect idiots to grasp that simple fact.

Remember the population break down then look at my violent crime stats. Like I said it is to do with outside influences and not race but I'm talking to people with the intellect of a sloth.

By cops ( mostly white) you imbecile. None of those murders are included in national murder rates.

And you're gonna have to start using proper English... A lot of that racist bullshit you're typing makes no sense

Mrs. Me Too;8785522 said:
You what , are you two users as I was talking to copper? I didn't know I had to fully explain every post so people wouldn't jump to negative conclusions.

??????
 
Mrs. Me Too;8785522 said:
You what , are you two users as I was talking to copper? I didn't know I had to fully explain every post so people wouldn't jump to negative conclusions.

How is it...you want people to explain themselves but you feel you don't have to? Didn't you jump to a repugnant conclusion on your preliminary response?
 
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Those crime graphs are skewed too. If you look at the crime that whites commit against whites, it's obviously higher. It's also higher with blacks against blacks. The reason it is higher with blacks vs whites is because whites are a wealthy majority so they are an obvious target for people that rob and steal because this country fucked up the potential of their society. Still, the crime rate is perpetuated against blacks mostly because blacks fight over the scraps they are stuck with. It's always important to look at the root cause. This can also be applied to nations around the earth with crime issues. For instance, the indigenous in Canada, and Aboriginals in Australia have a higher statistical crime rate since their countries fucked them over too. The same goes for Africa and Asia.
 
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