We need to re-visit Peyton Mannings post season career

[MillzOG]

Peyton the GOAT

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

Peyton the GOD

Fixed

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

Hate when people say Manning made so and so. Demariyus Thomas was good when Tebow was the QB, if anything the only WR he made was Decker and even that is arguable, if anything Demariyus Thomas and Julian Thomas and Decker prolonged his career and made him better

 

[bow to royalty]

Hate when people say Manning made so and so. Demariyus Thomas was good when Tebow was the QB, if anything the only WR he made was Decker and even that is arguable, if anything Demariyus Thomas and Julian Thomas and Decker prolonged his career and made him better

Thomas's best season was 32 catches, 551 yards, 4 TD's before Peyton got there....

 

[blackrain]

i wonder how petyon would do on some illmatic shit with no major features at wideout. not to mention pre broncos he feasted on perfect conditions. hes a great qb but i don't respect the fact he doesn't have postseason dominance, doesn't do well in cold weather and head behind a dome most his career. outside the superbowl football is a sport about the elements.

Peyton is a control freak. He needs the house with the white pickett fence and sunny skies. That's what to me even as a pats fan makes me respect eli more. When shit hits the fan eli fights through adversity. Peyton has more natural talent than brady or eli but a few things go wrong and peyton falls apart.

The thing is, whoever Peyton is throwing to will look like a good WR. He threw at least 10 TD passes to 4 different receivers last year I think.

The problem with this is the same problem people have with him in the post-season. It only counts when you want it to. Peyton will only have no major WR's (according to someone trying to knock him) when he has a bad year. None of the people last year have proven to be beast regardless of QB. Only Welker had pre-Peyton success, but that was with Brady. But of course he'll do bad with average receivers, if you only consider them average receivers when he does bad.

Here's my problem with the "Peyton loses when it counts" thing. It's only considered a big game, if he loses. AFC Championship game vs Pats. He won, and it was "ya whatever, not the SB". If he lost it'd be "he lost when it counted". Of course he loses the big games, if they're only considered big games if he loses! Peyton is the ONLY QB whose reputation takes a hit any year he doesn't win the SB. No one's really knocked Brady for the past 8 years. Or talked about Brees not winning enough SB's, and they're all HOF QB's.

Or the fact that since Peyton won his first ring he's pretty much shitted on Brady when their teams have played each other. Brady gets an ultimate pass. 10 years w/o a ring and nobody says shit. Peyton goes to 3 SB's in that time period and he's somehow a failure lol

 

[fightforolddc]

i wonder how petyon would do on some illmatic shit with no major features at wideout. not to mention pre broncos he feasted on perfect conditions. hes a great qb but i don't respect the fact he doesn't have postseason dominance, doesn't do well in cold weather and head behind a dome most his career. outside the superbowl football is a sport about the elements.

Peyton is a control freak. He needs the house with the white pickett fence and sunny skies. That's what to me even as a pats fan makes me respect eli more. When shit hits the fan eli fights through adversity. Peyton has more natural talent than brady or eli but a few things go wrong and peyton falls apart.

The thing is, whoever Peyton is throwing to will look like a good WR. He threw at least 10 TD passes to 4 different receivers last year I think.

The problem with this is the same problem people have with him in the post-season. It only counts when you want it to. Peyton will only have no major WR's (according to someone trying to knock him) when he has a bad year. None of the people last year have proven to be beast regardless of QB. Only Welker had pre-Peyton success, but that was with Brady. But of course he'll do bad with average receivers, if you only consider them average receivers when he does bad.

Here's my problem with the "Peyton loses when it counts" thing. It's only considered a big game, if he loses. AFC Championship game vs Pats. He won, and it was "ya whatever, not the SB". If he lost it'd be "he lost when it counted". Of course he loses the big games, if they're only considered big games if he loses! Peyton is the ONLY QB whose reputation takes a hit any year he doesn't win the SB. No one's really knocked Brady for the past 8 years. Or talked about Brees not winning enough SB's, and they're all HOF QB's.

Or the fact that since Peyton won his first ring he's pretty much shitted on Brady when their teams have played each other. Brady gets an ultimate pass. 10 years w/o a ring and nobody says shit. Peyton goes to 3 SB's in that time period and he's somehow a failure lol

Quoted for truth.

Carried by defense to 3 rings.

When he's had to carry the offense, no Super Bowls.

As last year proved he only puts up great #s when he has all-time great receivers (Moss) or an unstoppable tight end (Gronk). Guys likes Brees, Rodgers, Manning can put up #s with average talent.

 

[its....JOHN B]

i wonder how petyon would do on some illmatic shit with no major features at wideout. not to mention pre broncos he feasted on perfect conditions. hes a great qb but i don't respect the fact he doesn't have postseason dominance, doesn't do well in cold weather and head behind a dome most his career. outside the superbowl football is a sport about the elements.

Peyton is a control freak. He needs the house with the white pickett fence and sunny skies. That's what to me even as a pats fan makes me respect eli more. When shit hits the fan eli fights through adversity. Peyton has more natural talent than brady or eli but a few things go wrong and peyton falls apart.

The thing is, whoever Peyton is throwing to will look like a good WR. He threw at least 10 TD passes to 4 different receivers last year I think.

The problem with this is the same problem people have with him in the post-season. It only counts when you want it to. Peyton will only have no major WR's (according to someone trying to knock him) when he has a bad year. None of the people last year have proven to be beast regardless of QB. Only Welker had pre-Peyton success, but that was with Brady. But of course he'll do bad with average receivers, if you only consider them average receivers when he does bad.

Here's my problem with the "Peyton loses when it counts" thing. It's only considered a big game, if he loses. AFC Championship game vs Pats. He won, and it was "ya whatever, not the SB". If he lost it'd be "he lost when it counted". Of course he loses the big games, if they're only considered big games if he loses! Peyton is the ONLY QB whose reputation takes a hit any year he doesn't win the SB. No one's really knocked Brady for the past 8 years. Or talked about Brees not winning enough SB's, and they're all HOF QB's.

Or the fact that since Peyton won his first ring he's pretty much shitted on Brady when their teams have played each other. Brady gets an ultimate pass. 10 years w/o a ring and nobody says shit. Peyton goes to 3 SB's in that time period and he's somehow a failure lol

Saying Brady is better than Peyton is not saying he's a failure, no matter how you have them their both 2nd and 3rd all time

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

Thomas's best season was 32 catches, 551 yards, 4 TD's before Peyton got there....

I know Demariyus Thomas was injured his first 2 seasons and he came back game 8 With Tebow off a Achilles injury for he last half of the season. So your point is now debunked and MUTE. Thomas, Julian Thomas, Decker, Welker and Moreno revived Manning career and they are masking his weak arm strength that were exposed in the Superbowl

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

Guess you missed Thomas Minnesota Touchdown or the game winner in overtime against the Squeelers

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

Manning made this guy? PLEASE

 

[bow to royalty]

Thomas's best season was 32 catches, 551 yards, 4 TD's before Peyton got there....

I know Demariyus Thomas was injured his first 2 seasons and he came back game 8 With Tebow off a Achilles injury for he last half of the season. So your point is now debunked and MUTE. Thomas, Julian Thomas, Decker, Welker and Moreno revived Manning career and they are masking his weak arm strength that were exposed in the Superbowl

Nice try, but no. An excuse for doing bad, isn't the same as being good. Bottom line is he didn't prove he could produce in his first 2 seasons, whether it was because of injury, or his QB, or another reason. He didn't prove it until Peyton was there. I'm not saying Peyton made him, but he didn't prove he could strive without Peyton either.

Also arm strength is the wackest shit in the world to talk about IMO. Accuracy/decision making/reading defense/tons of shit>>>>>>>>>arm strength. Go ask Jamarcus Russell. Peyton's arm is straight, it's just a short deep ball is looked at as surgery messing him up. While other QB's throw a ball short, and it was just short.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...ushes-critics-with-deepball-bonanza-vs-chiefs

^^Throwing 45-ish yard passes with no problem.

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

Thomas was injured his first 2 years and he showed potential to be a big play WR. So nice try....Buc fans lol. I don't care about arm strength, but I don't mind a QB taking 4-5 shots down the field, which Denver should of done in the Superbowl instead of keeping everything underneath them. All Seattle had to do was keep these short to medium passes in front of them and watch manning choke like he always does

 

[bow to royalty]

Thomas was injured his first 2 years and he showed potential to be a big play WR. So nice try....Buc fans lol. I don't care about arm strength, but I don't mind a QB taking 4-5 shots down the field, which Denver should of done in the Superbowl instead of keeping everything underneath them. All Seattle had to do was keep these short to medium passes in front of them and watch manning choke like he always does

Lots of people show the potential to make big plays but are still just average receivers. I could fill this page up with big plays by average WR's. Those short passes were the game plan, AND Seattle's DL was getting to Peyton quickly so he didn't have time to wait for receivers to get downfield in the SB. But again, I'm not saying Peyton made Thomas. But you aren't nice until you prove you're nice. And the bottom line is he didn't prove it in his first 2 seasons (excuses or not). He didn't prove it until Peyton arrived.

And in that Steelers game, Thomas also benefited from bad coaching from the Steelers. They disrespected Tebow too much, and just gave him man-to-man all game, and Pitt's secondary isn't nice enough for that.

 

[jaxn]

yeah Peyton still has that "don't show up for the big game" mentality. Even in that SB win, he won against arguably the worst QB in football history. He's the shit during the regular season, like Steve Nash's Suns, but in the playoffs, it's a different story.

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

Manning was terrible in the Superbowl throwing INTs with his eye closed lol

 

[prime_time_willy]

I wouldn't say Peyton made Thomas but he damn sure made him a hell of a lot better. Nigga said himself he didn't even know how to run routes properly, he was just basically just running out there lol.

 

[nycest_1]

They haven't made it to the playoffs therefore he has more wins.

they havent made it to the playoffs because they arent as good regular season QBs as Peyton.

Making the playoffs is NOT the point..... the point is that once Peyton does make the playoffs, he sucks.

He has been to 3 Super Bowls.

With 3 different head coaches

With two teams

Top 3 all time

So everything you said don't matter.

Since when is "been to 3 superbowls" something to brag about?

when you finally figure out that going to 3 superbowls means afc champ 3 times lol did ya'll forget there are divisional champs meeting in the superbowl?

 

[rap mysterio]

Peyton Manning is a choke artist, plain n simple. The guy beat Rex grossman to get his ONE ring. Tom Brady is way betta

 

[Shizlansky]

Peyton Manning is a choke artist, plain n simple. The guy beat Rex grossman to get his ONE ring. Tom Brady is way betta

He beat that great Bears defense.

He didn't throw against Rex

You know that's theirs different players on offense and defense right?

Just thought I ask.

 

[Already Home_17]

yeah Peyton still has that "don't show up for the big game" mentality. Even in that SB win, he won against arguably the worst QB in football history. He's the shit during the regular season, like Steve Nash's Suns, but in the playoffs, it's a different story.

really?

and if we're gonna start diminishing Super Bowl winning QB's based on the opposing QB being less superior, a lot of great QB's past and present are gonna have asterisks next to their super bowl wins

or does this logic only apply to Peyton?