Was Jesus referring to Yahweh/Jehovah or someone else???

[bambu]

If an entire book is dedicated to being in opposition to something i feel sorry for you if you think it contains one iota of light. I used to be like that with all the conspiracy theory/illuminati books and films but I realized that shit wasnt helping me. at the end of the day, no matter what somebody has conspired to do, no matter what label you put on yourself- you the only person that gotta be in the skin you in and its YOUR decisions and actions that will make or break your life.

ill be glad when all this kiddie shit leaves this forum so i can discuss things like that with like minded individuals w/o regards for whatever the fuck they label themselves as. humanity is in troube. all the muthafuckas got all these answers and explanation yet the WORLD KEEPS GETTING WORSE---at an exponential rate. im about building. niggas need to study that and raise up to be gods.

I feel you brother.... but you must understand that unfortunately a lot of our brothers are still lost. It seems that most people in here have found some forms of truth, but more are still waking from their slumber. The problems occur when these half sleep individuals begin to profess truth. I think it is safe to say that attempting to "debunk" the bible is the first stage of searching for a higher understanding of the universe, but if a person gets stuck at this level it is also safe to say that they remain lost.

 

[beenwize]

That's cool....just letting you know that self publishing is frowned upon by scholars. Particularly when the book is non-fiction and has not had to go through editing and peer reviews.

yea it's all good... not trying to debunk the Bible but to seek the truth within the Bible that has been distorted by darkness. That's what that book and many others like it attempt to do and they use the Bible as a main source. People have suspected this and wrote many books on it since 2,000 years ago. The one I posted is not the first of it's kind, and other gospels tell a similar story. The book attempts to untangle what was done at events like the Council of Nicea.

 

[judahxulu]

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I feel you brother.... but you must understand that unfortunately a lot of our brothers are still lost. It seems that most people in here have found some forms of truth, but more are still waking from their slumber. The problems occur when these half sleep individuals begin to profess truth. I think it is safe to say that attempting to "debunk" the bible is the first stage of searching for a higher understanding of the universe, but if a person gets stuck at this level it is also safe to say that they remain lost.

exactly. since when can one on the novice level of mastery teach? with all this studying of ancient cultures you would be remiss to find any in which the students of esoterica can get this knowledge from a book and feel they are in the know. theres a whole process of isolation and discipline that one must pay to go to the higher realms of consciousness. thats the downside of the information age i guess. theres too much stuff out there that was simply never meant for the novice to attempt to digest. enlightenment is not microwaveable though. it requires an entire lifestyle. only then do you gain the credibility (starting with self) to go out on a mission to teach.

 

[judahxulu]

yea it's all good... not trying to debunk the Bible but to seek the truth within the Bible that has been distorted by darkness. That's what that book and many others like it attempt to do and they use the Bible as a main source. People have suspected this and wrote many books on it since 2,000 years ago. The one I posted is not the first of it's kind, and other gospels tell a similar story. The book attempts to untangle what was done at events like the Council of Nicea.

im going to try one last time to point something out to you and then i quit if its not received. until you learn hebrew and koine greek then maybe you should consider that that your biblical studies are incomplete before you go looking to sources external to the bible to inform you about it. you shoud especially do this before you go trying to inform others on things you have not been entirely informed about.

at least if you cant learn greek, get you a peshitta bible. its the most accurate translation youre going to find of the gospels. even still, all the gospels were written AFTER paul wrote his epistles. also, upon study the epistle of james (ya'cov) who actually walked and talked with yeshua (his brother) was against paul and his doctrine which you know to be as the new testament.

but thats all i have to say. ive done my job. when you must take account in your life for what you have said , done and proposed in your heart it will not be me who will reap what you have sown or vice versa. but im telling you- you should study more....

 

[beenwize]

im going to try one last time to point something out to you and then i quit if its not received. until you learn hebrew and koine greek then maybe you should consider that that your biblical studies are incomplete before you go looking to sources external to the bible to inform you about it. you shoud especially do this before you go trying to inform others on things you have not been entirely informed about.

I am doing my research all the time... Also many others I know who are more researched than me hold what they have learned as a truth.

 

[judahxulu]

I am doing my research all the time...

ok. what does the word worship mean in hebrew? what does it mean in genesis when it is said- "male and female created he them"? what is the elohim and is the same thing as YHWH?

 

[judahxulu]

3 points in the video i'd like to highlight:

1.) How are you going to point out the flaws in someone elses flaws when you have not addressed and transcended your lower self?

2.) She's not speaking about hebrew Israelites who have used to improve themselves and their environment. She makes it clear theres a difference between Hebrews.

3.) You can tell ones spiritual level by their works.

These 3 things go both ways and its funny that I be thinking the SAME things she was saying about all you "exposers" and 'debunkers" out there. like her, youre going by conflicts with personalities and people who dont even follow what they claim to believe. With this in your head, you dont objectively study- you just seek out materials that will only re-confirm your preconceived notions.

But:

1.) Who amongst you has transcended the lower self and can transmit clear counsel on how to duplicate this process in practical reality?

2.) What about the information presenting directly relates to improving yourself and your environment?

3.) What have you done with this information? Where are your good works?



Amongst all the little debates on here, i present these questions in different ways and it is ALLWAYS met with strawman respoonses.

When i produce the evidence of what my spiritual inclination can actualize it goes ignored by the naysayers. Why? Because they are not seeking truth. They just seek enough data to feel comfortable in their own lie of a life. they need an enemy to distract themselves from the enemy within. And its not particular to any specific belief either. i know hebrews, Muslims, Nuwabians, Egyptologists, Christians, buddhists and everything else in between that be on the same bullshit. Either yo bou the light or you not. You shouldn't need to criticize anything outside yourself to show and prove that. When you go out of your way to do so all you show and prove is weakness.

*** crickets chirping*** the silence speaks so loud.....

 

[beenwize]

Romans 8:15
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Beings of Light will naturally be attracted to the True Light unless they are severely contaminated by Darkness. Beings from the Shoot of Darkness are naturally attracted to the False Light created by the Shoot of Darkness and will naturally be repulsed and threatened by the True Light. Further, True-Light beings can still be attracted to the False Light due to programming, illusions and pollution.

Although True-Light beings can be attracted to the False Light, they are not ultimately repulsed or threatened by True Light even though they might initially be a bit insecure towards It due to pollution and programming from Darkness. True-Light beings are in fact nurtured, strengthened and sustained by the True Light.

Beings of Darkness are attracted to the False Light and are nurtured by It, while beings of Light, even if they are being programmed to respond or be attracted to the False Light, are not nurtured by the False Light. Instead, they are being exploited by the False Light and become pockets of energy that nurture Darkness.

Beings of Darkness are not comfortable in the presence of True Light. They feel a sense of gloom and doom. They can never recognize nor accept the True Light and Its "Messengers". They can never truly feel at home nor can they truly be committed to the Work sponsored by the True Light. Such ones will always feel that they are still searching for their way home, even if they encounter True Light and Its Messengers. This is true since their real home goes back to the Shoot of Darkness and not to the Branch of Light or the Source.

On the other hand, beings of Light can never totally feel committed or comfortable with the False Light. The True-Light beings who are nourished by the True Light grow in Purity, while the False-Light beings who are nurtured by the False Light grow more and more evil. However, beings for either side will ultimately know which side they belong to.

The True Light carries an inner sound, an inner "vibration", a blueprint which the False Light cannot reproduce even though the False Light can imitate the appearance of the True Light. This is where the awakened beings of Light will be able to discriminate the True-Light beings from the False-Light beings AFTER the final stages of the separation of Light from Darkness commence. There is the Pulse, the inner Sound, the inner Vibration that individual beings of True Light can inwardly access to recognize the True Light.

The separation of the True Light and False Light is now in progress. This is manifesting on many levels and the operation is extremely complex and delicate. The entire Tree of Creation (the Expression) appears to be far gone, but some of It can still be retrieved. Therefore, the Tree can be saved with some delicate pruning. It is better to lose the offending part than to lose the entire Tree.

As beings of Light become more and more in tune with the True Light, they will become more and more vibrant, shining sparks of the True Light. Beings of Light and beings of Darkness will then become more and more intolerant and uncomfortable with one another. While this separation of the two Lights is in progress, True-Light beings and False-Light beings will both be undertaking their respective "metamorphoses".

There will be a "half-way house" for the viable True-Light beings when they are evacuated from this Evil Creation. True-Light beings who have been contaminated by Darkness will reside there until all the necessary "metamorphoses" are completed so that they can safely be re-assimilated into the Branch of Light. Thus, once again, they will be re-united with the Source and become an integral part of the True Creation.

It is then that True-Light beings will exist in the love, purity, timelessness, harmony, joy and beauty of the True Creation.
As beings of the True Light become more and more detached from the beings of the False Light, they become more and more unified with the True Light. When this occurs they begin to notice the differences between themselves and the beings of Darkness (This will occur more on the subtle level and in their spiritual expression rather than in their physical appearance).

 

[beenwize]

*** crickets chirping*** the silence speaks so loud.....

reply on the youtube page or message her.

 

[judahxulu]

reply on the youtube page or message her.

for what? i quoted you so apparently i was addressing you and people like you. As I asked:

1.) Who amongst you has transcended the lower self and can transmit clear counsel on how to duplicate this process in practical reality?

2.) What about the information presenting directly relates to improving yourself and your environment?

3.) What have you done with this information? Where are your good works?

 

[beenwize]

for what? i quoted you so apparently i was addressing you and people like you. As I asked:

1.) Who amongst you has transcended the lower self and can transmit clear counsel on how to duplicate this process in practical reality?

2.) What about the information presenting directly relates to improving yourself and your environment?

3.) What have you done with this information? Where are your good works?

don't take that video personal cuz it wasn't directed at anyone in particular... i do many good works tho.

 

[beenwize]

I think my questions were pretty clear. thank you for not answering.

i'm already taken care of... thanks for asking tho.

 

[beenwize]

i didnt ask whether you were taken care of or not. why are my questions so difficult to answer? you claim you are trying to enlighten. what could be more enlightening than the answers to those questions? now im confused.

I never claimed to be enlightening you... I am just posting information for anyone that might be interested. The questions you asked are not difficult to answer at all because i already do good works but don't need to boast about them here. Peace

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Romans 8:15

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Beings of Light will naturally be attracted to the True Light unless they are severely contaminated by Darkness. Beings from the Shoot of Darkness are naturally attracted to the False Light created by the Shoot of Darkness and will naturally be repulsed and threatened by the True Light. Further, True-Light beings can still be attracted to the False Light due to programming, illusions and pollution.

Although True-Light beings can be attracted to the False Light, they are not ultimately repulsed or threatened by True Light even though they might initially be a bit insecure towards It due to pollution and programming from Darkness. True-Light beings are in fact nurtured, strengthened and sustained by the True Light.

Beings of Darkness are attracted to the False Light and are nurtured by It, while beings of Light, even if they are being programmed to respond or be attracted to the False Light, are not nurtured by the False Light. Instead, they are being exploited by the False Light and become pockets of energy that nurture Darkness.

Beings of Darkness are not comfortable in the presence of True Light. They feel a sense of gloom and doom. They can never recognize nor accept the True Light and Its "Messengers". They can never truly feel at home nor can they truly be committed to the Work sponsored by the True Light. Such ones will always feel that they are still searching for their way home, even if they encounter True Light and Its Messengers. This is true since their real home goes back to the Shoot of Darkness and not to the Branch of Light or the Source.

On the other hand, beings of Light can never totally feel committed or comfortable with the False Light. The True-Light beings who are nourished by the True Light grow in Purity, while the False-Light beings who are nurtured by the False Light grow more and more evil. However, beings for either side will ultimately know which side they belong to.

The True Light carries an inner sound, an inner "vibration", a blueprint which the False Light cannot reproduce even though the False Light can imitate the appearance of the True Light. This is where the awakened beings of Light will be able to discriminate the True-Light beings from the False-Light beings AFTER the final stages of the separation of Light from Darkness commence. There is the Pulse, the inner Sound, the inner Vibration that individual beings of True Light can inwardly access to recognize the True Light.

The separation of the True Light and False Light is now in progress. This is manifesting on many levels and the operation is extremely complex and delicate. The entire Tree of Creation (the Expression) appears to be far gone, but some of It can still be retrieved. Therefore, the Tree can be saved with some delicate pruning. It is better to lose the offending part than to lose the entire Tree.

As beings of Light become more and more in tune with the True Light, they will become more and more vibrant, shining sparks of the True Light. Beings of Light and beings of Darkness will then become more and more intolerant and uncomfortable with one another. While this separation of the two Lights is in progress, True-Light beings and False-Light beings will both be undertaking their respective "metamorphoses".

There will be a "half-way house" for the viable True-Light beings when they are evacuated from this Evil Creation. True-Light beings who have been contaminated by Darkness will reside there until all the necessary "metamorphoses" are completed so that they can safely be re-assimilated into the Branch of Light. Thus, once again, they will be re-united with the Source and become an integral part of the True Creation.

It is then that True-Light beings will exist in the love, purity, timelessness, harmony, joy and beauty of the True Creation.

As beings of the True Light become more and more detached from the beings of the False Light, they become more and more unified with the True Light. When this occurs they begin to notice the differences between themselves and the beings of Darkness (This will occur more on the subtle level and in their spiritual expression rather than in their physical appearance).

 

[judahxulu]

I never claimed to be enlightening you... I am just posting information for anyone that might be interested. The questions you asked are not difficult to answer at all because i already do good works but don't need to boast about them here. Peace
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Romans 8:15
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Beings of Light will naturally be attracted to the True Light unless they are severely contaminated by Darkness. Beings from the Shoot of Darkness are naturally attracted to the False Light created by the Shoot of Darkness and will naturally be repulsed and threatened by the True Light. Further, True-Light beings can still be attracted to the False Light due to programming, illusions and pollution.

Although True-Light beings can be attracted to the False Light, they are not ultimately repulsed or threatened by True Light even though they might initially be a bit insecure towards It due to pollution and programming from Darkness. True-Light beings are in fact nurtured, strengthened and sustained by the True Light.

Beings of Darkness are attracted to the False Light and are nurtured by It, while beings of Light, even if they are being programmed to respond or be attracted to the False Light, are not nurtured by the False Light. Instead, they are being exploited by the False Light and become pockets of energy that nurture Darkness.

Beings of Darkness are not comfortable in the presence of True Light. They feel a sense of gloom and doom. They can never recognize nor accept the True Light and Its "Messengers". They can never truly feel at home nor can they truly be committed to the Work sponsored by the True Light. Such ones will always feel that they are still searching for their way home, even if they encounter True Light and Its Messengers. This is true since their real home goes back to the Shoot of Darkness and not to the Branch of Light or the Source.

On the other hand, beings of Light can never totally feel committed or comfortable with the False Light. The True-Light beings who are nourished by the True Light grow in Purity, while the False-Light beings who are nurtured by the False Light grow more and more evil. However, beings for either side will ultimately know which side they belong to.

The True Light carries an inner sound, an inner "vibration", a blueprint which the False Light cannot reproduce even though the False Light can imitate the appearance of the True Light. This is where the awakened beings of Light will be able to discriminate the True-Light beings from the False-Light beings AFTER the final stages of the separation of Light from Darkness commence. There is the Pulse, the inner Sound, the inner Vibration that individual beings of True Light can inwardly access to recognize the True Light.

The separation of the True Light and False Light is now in progress. This is manifesting on many levels and the operation is extremely complex and delicate. The entire Tree of Creation (the Expression) appears to be far gone, but some of It can still be retrieved. Therefore, the Tree can be saved with some delicate pruning. It is better to lose the offending part than to lose the entire Tree.

As beings of Light become more and more in tune with the True Light, they will become more and more vibrant, shining sparks of the True Light. Beings of Light and beings of Darkness will then become more and more intolerant and uncomfortable with one another. While this separation of the two Lights is in progress, True-Light beings and False-Light beings will both be undertaking their respective "metamorphoses".

There will be a "half-way house" for the viable True-Light beings when they are evacuated from this Evil Creation. True-Light beings who have been contaminated by Darkness will reside there until all the necessary "metamorphoses" are completed so that they can safely be re-assimilated into the Branch of Light. Thus, once again, they will be re-united with the Source and become an integral part of the True Creation.

It is then that True-Light beings will exist in the love, purity, timelessness, harmony, joy and beauty of the True Creation.
As beings of the True Light become more and more detached from the beings of the False Light, they become more and more unified with the True Light. When this occurs they begin to notice the differences between themselves and the beings of Darkness (This will occur more on the subtle level and in their spiritual expression rather than in their physical appearance).

again...mentioning some mysterious good works does not answer my questions. why did you ignore the first two questions twice? maybe something is wrong with your browser. let me re-post:

1.) Who amongst you has transcended the lower self and can transmit clear counsel on how to duplicate this process in practical reality?

2.) What about the information presenting directly relates to improving yourself and your environment?

3.) What have you done with this information? Where are your good works?

 

[beenwize]

5.0 out of 5 stars MAGIC!, February 4, 2006

By James Paul "JP" (FLA) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Jehovah Unmasked! (Paperback)

I bought Jehovah Unmasked in November of 2005. I've been a student of the Bible and of Religion for my entire adult life, and this is by far the most unique, interesting, and revolutionary interpretation of the Bible I've ever read. A lot like the movie The Matrix, this one will leave your head spinning (in a good way) if (like me) you're a Bible believer.

The problem of evil had been a huge obstacle in my ability to fully and completely surrender to the Heavenly Father of Jesus Christ. Until I read Jehovah Unmasked. After reading Jehovah Unmasked the obstacle was completely gone, and I was at last able to completely surrender to my Abba, the Heavenly Father. I have never known such JOY in my whole LIFE!

I have met a lot of Christians who were equally disturbed by the actions of the Old testament god 'Jehovah' but unlike me they were able to turn their brain off and just submit to the fiend. I wasn't. I'm glad I didn't submit because now I Know who I would have been submitting to. I have submitted to the Heavenly Father of Jesus Christ, the Father descibed in First Corinthians 13:4-8. 'Jehova' is NOT the Heavenly Father! If you're looking for inner peace and the Love of God, this is the book you need.

The author, Nathaniel Merritt, has been very helpful to me. He put his email address on the inside cover of the book, and we've been emailing since November. I've learned even more through his help, and have grown even more spiritually. Thank you again Dr. Merritt, for leading me to the Truth. I now love God because of your efforts.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Jehovah: The Emperor with No Clothes, July 24, 2008

By Stephen C. Smith "truth-seeker" (Fort Payne, AL USA) - See all my reviews

(REAL NAME)

This review is from: Jehovah Unmasked! (Paperback)

In starting to write a review of Jehovah Unmasked, I find myself at a loss for words. In my own personal experience, there have been few if any books that have made as deep an impact on me as this one. I simply cannot adequately express how important this book can be not just for everyone's personal life, but how it has the power to truly transform this world into a place you wouldn't even recognize from today's spiritually jaded wasteland.

Through the plentiful use of quotations straight out of the Old and New Testament Bible, author Nathaniel Merritt unmistakably demonstrates that the Jehovah of the OT could not possibly be the same "Heavenly Father" that Jesus spoke of in the NT. The contrast is in fact so stark, that one has to stop and seriously ask why the Old Testament God wasn't dethroned 2,000 years ago. This is clearly not the loving God that millions of Christians THINK they worship today. He is nothing less than a raging, vindictive, bloodthirsty maniac who violates his own commandments on a regular basis. And yet millions of Christians continue to believe that this is the One True God. The cognitive dissonance that resulted from this failure to recognize the obvious has probably caused more inner turmoil than any other single thing in history.

There are so many "gems" in this book, I cannot begin to number them all. But just to give you a clue as to what I'm referring to, I quote the following paragraph from page 111:

"Just as 'you are what you eat' so too 'you are what you worship.' Ideas have consequences. Ideas have psychological consequences, societal consequences, and spiritual consequences. If the god you and your sect worship is a petty, angry, egotistical, mercurial, raging, murdering, irrational despot such as Jehovah, that is what you and the members of your sect will eventually become. If the god you worship indulges in murderous fits of rage, so will you and the members of your sect. If the god you worship shifts the blame for the woeful condition of the kosmos it fashioned onto your narrow shoulders, and tells you that you are born sinful, wicked, and fit only for hell-fire and damnation, your inner self will be fragmented and burdened with terrible guilt and self-loathing."

Contrary to what many people may believe upon reading this, Merritt is not exhorting his readers to become godless atheists. He is only revealing that the emperor god Jehovah, who has held sway over mankind for thousands of years, has no clothes. He is a pathetic thing, frankly far more worthy of our derision than our respect, much less our adoration.

Merritt DOES give us an alternative, as did Jesus. However, this alternative of a truly loving, infinitely merciful God, who only asked us not to sin, but didn't threaten us with eternal damnation if we occasionally slipped up, threatened the religious establishment. The early Gnostic Christians simply wanted to experience this perfect God of Love personally, but the Church of Rome couldn't allow this. This was because they, quite simply, wouldn't be needed anymore as an intercessor between man and the wrathful, punitive Jehovah-god. The Church slyly offered Jesus as a "way out" of perdition, but only if you accepted the premise that you are a sinful creature, inevitably cursed by your blood descent from Adam, the original sinner who dared to try to find out what was good, and what was evil.

I could go on and on, but then I would be writing a book myself. Spare me the trouble and just buy this book and read it for yourself. If you read it with the intention of "disproving" the author's points, you will learn nothing. You will only be condemning yourself to the same-old doctrine-infested "old time religion".

Emerge from the Darkness and come out into the Light. The water's fine out here.

 

[beenwize]

5.0 out of 5 stars Lifting The Veil ..., September 27, 2007

By Pamela S. Parker (Colorado Springs, CO United States) - See all my reviews

(REAL NAME)

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This review is from: Jehovah Unmasked! (Paperback)

Nathaniel Merritt has tackled The Problem of Jehovah, and has done an excellent job in uncovering the true nature of the Judeo-Christian "God". I found it very interesting to read the other reviews of this book. The reviews were quite revealing, in regard to the particular mind-set and prejudices of each reviewer.

I was brought up to believe that Jehovah was the One and Only True God, and, that he was also The Father, the God of Love, that Jesus proclaimed. Even as a child, I found it hard to reconcile the harsh, jealous God of the Old Testament with the loving Father of Jesus, as described in the New Testament. I found it hard to love this bloody, demanding God. Fear him - Yes. Love him - No. As I grew older, I noticed, as Merritt pointed out, that the majority of Christians that I knew acted more like Jehovah than Jesus.

The most insidious thing about religious programming is that it casts a veil over the mind, and it is extremely difficult to overcome. Reading about the terrible and destructive exploits of Jehovah should set off an alarm in any "normal" person's head. This is our loving Father?

Over the last 25 years, I have spent an inordinate amount of time in Biblical research. What I discovered shocked and disturbed me, but, it - definitely - lifted the veil. Along the way, I found out that the majority of educated Jews that I came in contact with don't believe that major portions of the Old Testament are Literal. They look at them as Allegory. I look at them as Horror, and unfit for children, as well as for adults.

Merritt's efforts in this book are reminiscent of the child in the children's story, "The Emperor's New Clothes". The child in the story loudly proclaimed that the Emperor was, in fact, naked ... It was all a con job, and the people were too intimidated to speak up. Like the child, Merritt is not deterred from speaking out the truth.

Nathaniel Merritt deserves a place of honor among his peers, the Honest biblical scholars who have risked it all in the name of truth. Do yourself a favor. Read this book.

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5.0 out of 5 stars The Veil of Deciet is lifted, April 23, 2006

By Stacy Bertrand - See all my reviews

This review is from: Jehovah Unmasked! (Paperback)

A must read!

For years I have searched for truth in the Bible, books, religion etc. The only regret I have is Jehovah Unmasked wasnt available when I started.

Unlike the DaVinci Code, this drama is real. Through thorough research and a little common sense Nathaniel Merritt exposes a truth hidden in plain sight, right under our noses.

There is no denying the facts. Likened to the ultimate cold case file, after two thousand years Merritt opens the evidence locker (the Bible) to the perfect crime perpetrated against humanity.

By stripping away everything but bare brass facts (scripture) Merritt removes all doubt concerning a harsh reality so many refuse to accept. They wont accept it because it would shake the very foundations of Judaism and Christianity. However, Merritt doesnt leave us hanging without hope. There is hope in truth.

I could go on but no words would do this book justice.

Do you think you know who the god of the old testament is? Whether your answer was yes or no to that question you should read Jehovah Unmasked for yourself. Then answer.

Thank you Nathaniel Merritt. Thank you for having the balls to write this book! You have earned my respect. I cant wait to read the other three books you have coming out soon. I must say though, you set the bar pretty high with this one.

Namaste,

Evan Bertrand

 

[beenwize]

interesting quotes throughout the ages

Marcion of Sinope, in the 1st century AD, held that the Old Testament was a scandal to the faithful … and … accounted for it by postulating that Jehovah was a secondary deity, a demiurgus, who was god, in a sense, but not the supreme God; he was just, rigidly just, he had his good qualities, but he was not the good god, who was Father of Our Jesus/Yeshua Christ.

John Arendzen (1909) in the Catholic Encyclopedia (1913) mentions that Eusebius accused Apelles, the 2nd century AD Gnostic, of considering the Inspirer of Old-Testament prophecies to be not a god, but an demi angel.

Hegemonius (4th C.) accuses the Persian prophet Mani, founder of the Manichaean sect in the 3rd century AD, identified Jehovah as "the demigod which created the world" and said that "he who spoke with Moses, the Jews, and the priests … is the Prince of Darkness, … not the god of truth."

American anthropologist Walter L. Williams has written a revision of the story of Jesus which presents "God as Satan, the evil doer rejected by Jesus in the New Testament confrontation during Jesus' retreat in the desert."In the Old Testament, God offers all of Canaan to Abraham if he will worship God. Genesis 17:8 "I will give the entire land of Canaan, where you now live as a foreigner, to you and your descendants. It will be their possession forever, and I will be their God.” In the New Testament, Satan offers all the kingdoms on earth to Jesus if he will worship Satan. Luke 4:6-7 “I will give you the glory of these kingdoms and authority over them,” the devil said, “because they are mine to give to anyone I please. I will give it all to you if you will worship me.”

Nicholas Weber in the Catholic Encyclopedia article Albigenses (1907) notes that the enemies of the Albigenses, a Christian sect in 12th- and 13th-century France, a branch of the Cathari, accused them that their doctrine held that "the creator … of the material world … is the source of all evil … He created the human body and is the author of sin … The Old Testament must be either partly or entirely ascribed to him; whereas the New Testament is the revelation of the beneficent God."[8] They ultimately came into conflict with both the civil order and the Church which lead to the Albigensian Crusade.

 

[judahxulu]

interesting quotes throughout the ages

Marcion of Sinope, in the 1st century AD, held that the Old Testament was a scandal to the faithful … and … accounted for it by postulating that Jehovah was a secondary deity, a demiurgus, who was god, in a sense, but not the supreme God; he was just, rigidly just, he had his good qualities, but he was not the good god, who was Father of Our Jesus/Yeshua Christ.

John Arendzen (1909) in the Catholic Encyclopedia (1913) mentions that Eusebius accused Apelles, the 2nd century AD Gnostic, of considering the Inspirer of Old-Testament prophecies to be not a god, but an demi angel.

Hegemonius (4th C.) accuses the Persian prophet Mani, founder of the Manichaean sect in the 3rd century AD, identified Jehovah as "the demigod which created the world" and said that "he who spoke with Moses, the Jews, and the priests … is the Prince of Darkness, … not the god of truth."

American anthropologist Walter L. Williams has written a revision of the story of Jesus which presents "God as Satan, the evil doer rejected by Jesus in the New Testament confrontation during Jesus' retreat in the desert."In the Old Testament, God offers all of Canaan to Abraham if he will worship God. Genesis 17:8 "I will give the entire land of Canaan, where you now live as a foreigner, to you and your descendants. It will be their possession forever, and I will be their God.” In the New Testament, Satan offers all the kingdoms on earth to Jesus if he will worship Satan. Luke 4:6-7 “I will give you the glory of these kingdoms and authority over them,” the devil said, “because they are mine to give to anyone I please. I will give it all to you if you will worship me.”

Nicholas Weber in the Catholic Encyclopedia article Albigenses (1907) notes that the enemies of the Albigenses, a Christian sect in 12th- and 13th-century France, a branch of the Cathari, accused them that their doctrine held that "the creator … of the material world … is the source of all evil … He created the human body and is the author of sin … The Old Testament must be either partly or entirely ascribed to him; whereas the New Testament is the revelation of the beneficent God."[8] They ultimately came into conflict with both the civil order and the Church which lead to the Albigensian Crusade.

mmmhmm...and what do all these sources have in common? Theyre all europeans with a vested interest in promoting hellenist thought which is prime lubrication for geo-political rape. Yeah...the physical world is evil and eternal life comes after you die...so you shouldn't mind while we take your stuff. Yeah ok.....

 

[beenwize]

mmmhmm...and what do all these sources have in common? Theyre all europeans with a vested interest in promoting hellenist thought which is prime lubrication for geo-political rape. Yeah...the physical world is evil and eternal life comes after you die...so you shouldn't mind while we take your stuff. Yeah ok.....

instead they are simply revealing what's in the Bible once you study it as a whole... the Father that Yeshua revealed in the New Testament does not match the characteristics of your old testament god, and many ppl including the black female in the video I posted know it. Also pay attention to the 2 creation stories in genesis, they are both different gods. And many people know the difference between light and darkness... When the time come true light beings will ascend to source and others will remain in the hellish realms of this material earth.

I don't know what type of Creator you have in your mind but source Creator is pure love that Yeshua talked about...

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1 Corinthians 13:4
Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

 

[beenwize]

Numbers 31:17
Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Happy is the one who takes and dashes your little ones against the rock! "
-- Psalm 137.9.

Isaiah 13:16
Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

Exodus 12:29
And it came to pass, that at midnight Yahweh smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

Ezekiel 9:5-6
And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

Isaiah 14:21
Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
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Deuteronomy 24:16
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.