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Inglewood_B;8830755 said:
How come we can all agree to be dismissive of other ancient religions/pantheons as myth but when it comes to the Abrahamic religions it's "hate"?

And why is atheism considered by most here to be anti-Christian?

Because soo many atheists in western nations are out right hostile towards Christianity. Basically atheists are attempting to change the culture so automatically an us vs them situation comes into play.

Christianity and the other abrahamic religions aren't dismissed because they have a strong cultural,economic,political and social influence. Meanwhile the dead gods of ancient religions lack any real influence.
 
Ajackson17;8831011 said:
Inglewood_B;8830755 said:
How come we can all agree to be dismissive of other ancient religions/pantheons as myth but when it comes to the Abrahamic religions it's "hate"?

And why is atheism considered by most here to be anti-Christian?

Because Christianity is seen as the correct position on life and atheism is the most anti version of it. So when people think of these myths they don't even entertain it in the idea that their belief system is on the same level. They see the scriptures as evidence as truth even when you pit it against archealogical sites and new finds they have cognitive dissonance.

For the most part archaeology cannot really answer most questions conclusively because there are too many holes in the archeological record . Analysis of archaelogical findings depend on too much inference and estimation.
 
zzombie;8831229 said:
Ajackson17;8831011 said:
Inglewood_B;8830755 said:
How come we can all agree to be dismissive of other ancient religions/pantheons as myth but when it comes to the Abrahamic religions it's "hate"?

And why is atheism considered by most here to be anti-Christian?

Because Christianity is seen as the correct position on life and atheism is the most anti version of it. So when people think of these myths they don't even entertain it in the idea that their belief system is on the same level. They see the scriptures as evidence as truth even when you pit it against archealogical sites and new finds they have cognitive dissonance.

For the most part archaeology cannot really answer most questions conclusively because there are too many holes in the archeological record . Analysis of archaelogical findings depend on too much inference and estimation.

The archaeological records do show signs of contradictions and just goes to show that Paul was right when he said all these things are allegory. There is hints of truth in allegory to teach you something. It's a teaching mechanism how to behave properly and think correctly and respond accordingly. That's all. David and his adventures is mythos based on some correct information.

Here they found the jewish writings in Babylon and gives us a picture that isn't in the bible.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2015/02/writings-of-jews-in-the-babylonian-exile/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...reveal-life-Jews-Nebuchadnezzars-Babylon.html
 
Ajackson17;8831246 said:
zzombie;8831229 said:
Ajackson17;8831011 said:
Inglewood_B;8830755 said:
How come we can all agree to be dismissive of other ancient religions/pantheons as myth but when it comes to the Abrahamic religions it's "hate"?

And why is atheism considered by most here to be anti-Christian?

Because Christianity is seen as the correct position on life and atheism is the most anti version of it. So when people think of these myths they don't even entertain it in the idea that their belief system is on the same level. They see the scriptures as evidence as truth even when you pit it against archealogical sites and new finds they have cognitive dissonance.

For the most part archaeology cannot really answer most questions conclusively because there are too many holes in the archeological record . Analysis of archaelogical findings depend on too much inference and estimation.

The archaeological records do show signs of contradictions and just goes to show that Paul was right when he said all these things are allegory. There is hints of truth in allegory to teach you something. It's a teaching mechanism how to behave properly and think correctly and respond accordingly. That's all. David and his adventures is mythos based on some correct information.

Here they found the jewish writings in Babylon and gives us a picture that isn't in the bible.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2015/02/writings-of-jews-in-the-babylonian-exile/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...reveal-life-Jews-Nebuchadnezzars-Babylon.html

Paul never said ALL things were allegory. If i write something about NYC today that's not true and 500 years from now somebody finds it and declares it truth does that make it true???? No especially if their are contradictory accounts. I can however choose to take it as truth but that would be faith

Which is why we cannot totally depend on the archeological record to prove or disprove anything.
 
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zzombie;8831267 said:
Ajackson17;8831246 said:
zzombie;8831229 said:
Ajackson17;8831011 said:
Inglewood_B;8830755 said:
How come we can all agree to be dismissive of other ancient religions/pantheons as myth but when it comes to the Abrahamic religions it's "hate"?

And why is atheism considered by most here to be anti-Christian?

Because Christianity is seen as the correct position on life and atheism is the most anti version of it. So when people think of these myths they don't even entertain it in the idea that their belief system is on the same level. They see the scriptures as evidence as truth even when you pit it against archealogical sites and new finds they have cognitive dissonance.

For the most part archaeology cannot really answer most questions conclusively because there are too many holes in the archeological record . Analysis of archaelogical findings depend on too much inference and estimation.

The archaeological records do show signs of contradictions and just goes to show that Paul was right when he said all these things are allegory. There is hints of truth in allegory to teach you something. It's a teaching mechanism how to behave properly and think correctly and respond accordingly. That's all. David and his adventures is mythos based on some correct information.

Here they found the jewish writings in Babylon and gives us a picture that isn't in the bible.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2015/02/writings-of-jews-in-the-babylonian-exile/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...reveal-life-Jews-Nebuchadnezzars-Babylon.html

Paul never said ALL things were allegory. If i write something about NYC today that's not true and 500 years from now somebody finds it and declares it truth does that make it true???? No especially if their are contradictory accounts. I can however choose to take it as truth but that would be faith

Which is why we cannot totally depend on the archeological record to prove or disprove anything.

I disagree with that. Archaeology can tells us so much and written contemporary records can let us know so much. The methodology is stronger and more precise now and gives us a very insightful key ingredients on how we can see the past and how it reflects us. People embellish just look how the old people do and the cats in the 90s. We was in the 90s and they make it seem like paradise, no the fuck it wasn't crack everywhere, niggas dying at higher rates then today, high drug abuse in the black community. The music was better cause the pain was very high. There are things that are just simply embellished.
 
zzombie;8830062 said:
rodneyskinner;8830037 said:
zzombie;8819218 said:
rodneyskinner;8819158 said:
zzombie;8817265 said:
using number as symbols does not equal numerology. numerology is much more complex than that and a wide variety of cultures have used numbers as symbols including the Israelite one rev 13:18 is not asking you to figure out the future using numbers it's just giving you an identification card for the ultimate anti-Christ

that is all it's not asking you to add up the numbers and figure out the future,

So a prophecy is not telling you the future. Here's the problem. The number 6 in astrology is a man's number. If they just used it to identify a person sort of like a street address 1 thing. They used the context of the word in its astrological meaning. So the number 6 being a man's number got its meaning from Astrology. More importantly it is predicting a future event where you will only be able to trade and is a sign of the time. The bible account would not be translated without the use of astrological sources.

You can only use the bible to understand the symbols in the bible. You are assuming that how people in astrology used 6 is how the bible is using 6. Astrology is also a varied practice not all astrological systems are the same.

Prophecy tells you the future, it's limited information. astrology is an attempt to learn more than what the prophecy provides.

Not when the audience you are preaching know's astrology. It would be like me making a religion where you use the force and fight with light sabers. Now it would be like oh Star Wars. 5K Years from now you'd be like this from the word of God. You can't take from the other religions around you and act as if you are the creator or innovator.

Most Christians at the time that revelations would have been prophesied would have been poor people,uneducated people, lower class people,slaves so i doubt many of them knew anything about astrology also The problems is who is the audience for a prophecy??? is it for the people living now or 10 years from now ???how about 1000 years from now??? Christianity is an evolution of Judaism to understand Christianity on a deeper level it is necessary to understand Judaism and i don't mean modern Judaism. The question is .

what was early Judaism and where and how did it originate. How you define what this Judaism was will give you your answer to how you look at christian prophecy.

Not exactly the bible the Christian Bible was not written in the language of the common man. It was written in Greek. A language only philosophers and rich at the time well versed in the gnostic and occultic teachings would have quickly identified. It was written in neither Hebrew or Aramaic or even Germanic. The book of Revelation is apocryphal because it seeks to sew in the occult into the themes of the bible. There is no denying that

Worrmwood, the morning start, Absynthe, 4 winds, 144k, Apployon, the great dragon, the woman clothed with sun moon at her feet. Even the the Circle of living animals the 4 living creatures they translate it to mean. Really are the cardinal axis points of the zodiac or the circle of living animals as zodion is translated in english. These are undeniable facts and to place those teachings into first century knowledge you will quickly see that the Revelation that is being used to prophesy the end time is heresy.
 
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rodneyskinner;8832672 said:
zzombie;8830062 said:
rodneyskinner;8830037 said:
zzombie;8819218 said:
rodneyskinner;8819158 said:
zzombie;8817265 said:
using number as symbols does not equal numerology. numerology is much more complex than that and a wide variety of cultures have used numbers as symbols including the Israelite one rev 13:18 is not asking you to figure out the future using numbers it's just giving you an identification card for the ultimate anti-Christ

that is all it's not asking you to add up the numbers and figure out the future,

So a prophecy is not telling you the future. Here's the problem. The number 6 in astrology is a man's number. If they just used it to identify a person sort of like a street address 1 thing. They used the context of the word in its astrological meaning. So the number 6 being a man's number got its meaning from Astrology. More importantly it is predicting a future event where you will only be able to trade and is a sign of the time. The bible account would not be translated without the use of astrological sources.

You can only use the bible to understand the symbols in the bible. You are assuming that how people in astrology used 6 is how the bible is using 6. Astrology is also a varied practice not all astrological systems are the same.

Prophecy tells you the future, it's limited information. astrology is an attempt to learn more than what the prophecy provides.

Not when the audience you are preaching know's astrology. It would be like me making a religion where you use the force and fight with light sabers. Now it would be like oh Star Wars. 5K Years from now you'd be like this from the word of God. You can't take from the other religions around you and act as if you are the creator or innovator.

Most Christians at the time that revelations would have been prophesied would have been poor people,uneducated people, lower class people,slaves so i doubt many of them knew anything about astrology also The problems is who is the audience for a prophecy??? is it for the people living now or 10 years from now ???how about 1000 years from now??? Christianity is an evolution of Judaism to understand Christianity on a deeper level it is necessary to understand Judaism and i don't mean modern Judaism. The question is .

what was early Judaism and where and how did it originate. How you define what this Judaism was will give you your answer to how you look at christian prophecy.

Not exactly the bible the Christian Bible was not written in the language of the common man. It was written in Greek. A language only philosophers at the time well versed in the gnostic and occultic teachings would have quickly identified. The book of Revelation is apocryphal because it seeks to sew in the occult into the themes of the bible. There is no denying that



Worrmwood, the morning start, Absynthe, 4 winds, 144k, Apployon, the great dragon, the woman clothed with sun moon at her feet. Even the the Circle of living animals the 4 living creatures they translate it to mean. Really are the cardinal axis points of the zodiac or the circle of living animals as zodion is translated in english. These are undeniable facts and to place those teachings into first century knowledge you will quickly see that the Revelation that is being used to prophesy the end time is heresy.

YES THERE IS denying that. first of all a lot of the so called "occult" actually came after revelations was written books like the the keys Solomon and some of the other less well know grimoires are dated to the renaissance.

what you are doing is presupposing things to make your argument, you presuppose that the how the symbols are used in revelations is the same way that they are used in the occult . but most of that occult shit came about after revelations and the symbology in revelations itself builds on earlier Jewish text and history. FOR EXAMPLE The beasts talked about in revelations have a direct correlation to the beats of the book of Daniel that was written centuries earlier.
 
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Everybody gonna fall in line and if not it's gonna be like the movie: Demolition Man. Go underground. Be hungry for 3 days! Be unable to get ya medication for a day! Mugs will be LINING UP 2 get chipped! Dignitaries abroad are already chipped. It's all the rage overseas now. No lines if you chipped, go right through VIP, NO shit either! It's gonna a sintch to pull off. Offer discounts on seniors meds, free year of college education, little incentives here and there and it's a wrap. Sheep syndrome and the feeling of a discount or getting over is intoxicating to some whatever the cost.
 
I dont believe in everything in the bible but I aint getting no fuckin chip in my body because i'm a criminal and dont trust the government ,already our cellphones are like tracking devices but in no way in hell i'm getting that chip ,if shit happens i'll link up with other people who are against it and wild the fuck out lol
 
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