Trump Launched missile strike against Syria

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2stepz_ahead;c-9717040 said:
AZTG;c-9717031 said:
Did Trump do the right thing? I'll let yall debate that.

I just want to point something out to you guys. The US attacked Syria because Syria attacked its citizens right? Thats cool. But do yall notice the fact that ever since Trump became president, reports of civilians dying in Iraq from US air strikes has increases?

Well thats not by chance. Thats actually a due to a difference in Trump and Obamas combat policies. The president gets to decide how much potential colleteral damage is acceptable when it comes to approving air strikes. Under Obama, almost no colleteral damage was acceptable. Civilian deaths happened under Obama as well, but they were either due to very high profile targets or due to legitamate mistakes.

Under Trump though, the level of acceptable colleteral damage increased. Trump said if we believe there are terrorist activities, bomb that shit, and it doesnt matter who dies. This is what a president who is in over his head and does not realize the impact of his actions does.

I mean, I get that the media vilifies the people of the middle east. I get it. In some cases they really should be villified. But, if you ask middle easteners why they hate America, they will say cause America has been attacking us for decades. End of the day, they are people just like us. Now what do you think is going to happen to the family members of the 200+ civilians that have been killed in the past 2 weeks from US strikes gonna do? The hate in their hearts will force a portion to become jihadis and join isis, al qeada etc.., a portion who are really smart will plan and join in on attacks on the west, and the most dangerous outcome is the portion of them who are really charismatic will pick up jihadi propaganda and preach it. Cant really blame them cause the US has been fucking the middle east up for a while now.

Obama was weak on Foreign Policy, and made tons of mistakes, but he was probably the only president that did not get caught up in tunnel vision and was able to think about the impact his decisions would have in 5 years before he took action. Thats why he tried to limit civilian casualties so much, all the while trump was talking that lets kill their families shit. Presidents are notorious for showing almost no foresight, so this isnt an implication on Trump. He doing what presidents usually do. I just he wish he wouldnt.

There are many legitimate reasons why the middle east is fucked up. It would be foolish to point at just one factor and say this here is the reason. Its really a complicated situation with many layers. But the cycle of violence where America gets involved and civilians die is one of those factors and Trump is just continuing the cycle.

while I hear what you trying to say about Obama...but he was limited no matter if he wanted to go crazy or not.

they was watching him with a very big microscope

I feel you on that. But Obama also realized one thing, and that was, toppling a govt is really easy. The US toppled Saddams govt in less than a month. The hard part is who is gonna run the country next? And all the options in Syria were bad options. Thats why he said he was looking for a coalition of Syrians to do the job, but couldnt find any opposition groups that were even nuetral to America. Like a long time ago they accepted they wont be able to find pro america opposition groups, and they just looked for nuetral ones and couldnt find any.
 
How was the gassing a false flag if the Syria government already was doing it during Obama administration? Come on niggas
 
AZTG;c-9717049 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-9717040 said:
AZTG;c-9717031 said:
Did Trump do the right thing? I'll let yall debate that.

I just want to point something out to you guys. The US attacked Syria because Syria attacked its citizens right? Thats cool. But do yall notice the fact that ever since Trump became president, reports of civilians dying in Iraq from US air strikes has increases?

Well thats not by chance. Thats actually a due to a difference in Trump and Obamas combat policies. The president gets to decide how much potential colleteral damage is acceptable when it comes to approving air strikes. Under Obama, almost no colleteral damage was acceptable. Civilian deaths happened under Obama as well, but they were either due to very high profile targets or due to legitamate mistakes.

Under Trump though, the level of acceptable colleteral damage increased. Trump said if we believe there are terrorist activities, bomb that shit, and it doesnt matter who dies. This is what a president who is in over his head and does not realize the impact of his actions does.

I mean, I get that the media vilifies the people of the middle east. I get it. In some cases they really should be villified. But, if you ask middle easteners why they hate America, they will say cause America has been attacking us for decades. End of the day, they are people just like us. Now what do you think is going to happen to the family members of the 200+ civilians that have been killed in the past 2 weeks from US strikes gonna do? The hate in their hearts will force a portion to become jihadis and join isis, al qeada etc.., a portion who are really smart will plan and join in on attacks on the west, and the most dangerous outcome is the portion of them who are really charismatic will pick up jihadi propaganda and preach it. Cant really blame them cause the US has been fucking the middle east up for a while now.

Obama was weak on Foreign Policy, and made tons of mistakes, but he was probably the only president that did not get caught up in tunnel vision and was able to think about the impact his decisions would have in 5 years before he took action. Thats why he tried to limit civilian casualties so much, all the while trump was talking that lets kill their families shit. Presidents are notorious for showing almost no foresight, so this isnt an implication on Trump. He doing what presidents usually do. I just he wish he wouldnt.

There are many legitimate reasons why the middle east is fucked up. It would be foolish to point at just one factor and say this here is the reason. Its really a complicated situation with many layers. But the cycle of violence where America gets involved and civilians die is one of those factors and Trump is just continuing the cycle.

while I hear what you trying to say about Obama...but he was limited no matter if he wanted to go crazy or not.

they was watching him with a very big microscope

I feel you on that. But Obama also realized one thing, and that was, toppling a govt is really easy. The US toppled Saddams govt in less than a month. The hard part is who is gonna run the country next? And all the options in Syria were bad options. Thats why he said he was looking for a coalition of Syrians to do the job, but couldnt find any opposition groups that were even nuetral to America. Like a long time ago they accepted they wont be able to find pro america opposition groups, and they just looked for nuetral ones and couldnt find any.
 
smh @ caring about the Syrian people enough to bomb their country but not enough to allow refugees from there into our country

 
Ol Jay's;c-9717047 said:
no footage? , how we know this isn't some pretend attack between Trump and Putin to take attention off the fact these 2 are under investigation

Fools could've shot missiles into a vacant field for all we know

Not to mention he warned Russia before the attack, so they could've easily told Syria to clear out the area

He could have but his follow up actions will determine the truth. If he tries to remove Syria current government it will be in complete contrast to Russia, and Putin already relased a statement on how this strike has server lyrics damaged us-russia relationship.

As far as telling the Russians of course he did. If even one solider was killed by a US sanctioned mission then that's a completely new territory that neither country has witnessed and could completely spiral out of control.
 
The_Jackal;c-9717075 said:
Ol Jay's;c-9717047 said:
no footage? , how we know this isn't some pretend attack between Trump and Putin to take attention off the fact these 2 are under investigation

Fools could've shot missiles into a vacant field for all we know

Not to mention he warned Russia before the attack, so they could've easily told Syria to clear out the area

He could have but his follow up actions will determine the truth. If he tries to remove Syria current government it will be in complete contrast to Russia, and Putin already relased a statement on how this strike has server lyrics damaged us-russia relationship.

As far as telling the Russians of course he did. If even one solider was killed by a US sanctioned mission then that's a completely new territory that neither country has witnessed and could completely spiral out of control.

I hear you but I think his actions leading up to this is more telling than anything else he does after this

He told Russia about the planned attack but not congress and his approval rating had recently dropped to 33% & history shows going to war against the bad guy boosts the president approval rating
 
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Russian drone footage of the aftermath


How trustworthy this is I don't know... But not much damage done, runways still look useful.
 
Ol Jay's;c-9717085 said:
The_Jackal;c-9717075 said:
Ol Jay's;c-9717047 said:
no footage? , how we know this isn't some pretend attack between Trump and Putin to take attention off the fact these 2 are under investigation

Fools could've shot missiles into a vacant field for all we know

Not to mention he warned Russia before the attack, so they could've easily told Syria to clear out the area

He could have but his follow up actions will determine the truth. If he tries to remove Syria current government it will be in complete contrast to Russia, and Putin already relased a statement on how this strike has server lyrics damaged us-russia relationship.

As far as telling the Russians of course he did. If even one solider was killed by a US sanctioned mission then that's a completely new territory that neither country has witnessed and could completely spiral out of control.

I hear you but I think his actions leading up to this is more telling than anything else he does after this

He told Russia about the planned attack but not congress and his approval rating had recently dropped to 33% & history shows going to war against the bad guy boosts the president approval rating

Time will tell if he directly tries to remove Syria current government then there is no way that I think we can see any logical collusion between Trump and Putin. It would be such a devastating blow to Russia and it plans for the ME, plus the abundance of natural resources.

Also just confirmed six were killed none of them Russian.
 
SolemnSauce;c-9717004 said:
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Why u so aware of where and who these white supremacist are?

First rule of War.........

KNOW THY ENEMY.

(those hilarious white girl tweets came fromhttp://www.areyousorryyet.com tho, pure comedy)
 
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The_Jackal;c-9717099 said:
Ol Jay's;c-9717085 said:
The_Jackal;c-9717075 said:
Ol Jay's;c-9717047 said:
no footage? , how we know this isn't some pretend attack between Trump and Putin to take attention off the fact these 2 are under investigation

Fools could've shot missiles into a vacant field for all we know

Not to mention he warned Russia before the attack, so they could've easily told Syria to clear out the area

He could have but his follow up actions will determine the truth. If he tries to remove Syria current government it will be in complete contrast to Russia, and Putin already relased a statement on how this strike has server lyrics damaged us-russia relationship.

As far as telling the Russians of course he did. If even one solider was killed by a US sanctioned mission then that's a completely new territory that neither country has witnessed and could completely spiral out of control.

I hear you but I think his actions leading up to this is more telling than anything else he does after this

He told Russia about the planned attack but not congress and his approval rating had recently dropped to 33% & history shows going to war against the bad guy boosts the president approval rating

Time will tell if he directly tries to remove Syria current government then there is no way that I think we can see any logical collusion between Trump and Putin. It would be such a devastating blow to Russia and it plans for the ME, plus the abundance of natural resources.

Also just confirmed six were killed none of them Russian.

Russia doesn't care how they get ahold of Syria, just like US took out Saddam and Iraq still partnered up with Russia regarding the oil there

Russia is already benefiting from this, Russia's economy is solely oil based and to no surprise oil prices went up this morning due to the attack
 
Ol Jay's;c-9717047 said:
no footage? , how we know this isn't some pretend attack between Trump and Putin to take attention off the fact these 2 are under investigation

Fools could've shot missiles into a vacant field for all we know

Not to mention he warned Russia before the attack, so they could've easily told Syria to clear out the area

thats why I say 50 misskes for am airport?

that seems excessive....

once you hit the runway a few times

.nothing is taking off...

you can't tell me they hit each plane with 1 missile
 
Ol Jay's;c-9717104 said:
The_Jackal;c-9717099 said:
Ol Jay's;c-9717085 said:
The_Jackal;c-9717075 said:
Ol Jay's;c-9717047 said:
no footage? , how we know this isn't some pretend attack between Trump and Putin to take attention off the fact these 2 are under investigation

Fools could've shot missiles into a vacant field for all we know

Not to mention he warned Russia before the attack, so they could've easily told Syria to clear out the area

He could have but his follow up actions will determine the truth. If he tries to remove Syria current government it will be in complete contrast to Russia, and Putin already relased a statement on how this strike has server lyrics damaged us-russia relationship.

As far as telling the Russians of course he did. If even one solider was killed by a US sanctioned mission then that's a completely new territory that neither country has witnessed and could completely spiral out of control.

I hear you but I think his actions leading up to this is more telling than anything else he does after this

He told Russia about the planned attack but not congress and his approval rating had recently dropped to 33% & history shows going to war against the bad guy boosts the president approval rating

Time will tell if he directly tries to remove Syria current government then there is no way that I think we can see any logical collusion between Trump and Putin. It would be such a devastating blow to Russia and it plans for the ME, plus the abundance of natural resources.

Also just confirmed six were killed none of them Russian.

Russia doesn't care how they get ahold of Syria, just like US took out Saddam and Iraq still partnered up with Russia regarding the oil there

Russia is already benefiting from this, Russia's economy is solely oil based and to no surprise oil prices went up this morning due to the attack

You know Syria has no oil right lol.

Syria has the Russian Navy's only Mediterranean Sea port, which allows Russia’s warships to refuel without putting up with Turkey's bullshit to reach their Black Sea bases. This is on top of a close, friendly relationship the two countries have maintained throughout 70 years of revolutions and changes in government.

They don't want to "get ahold" of Syria like how the US wanted to colonize Iraq basically.....they just want their mans to survive and keep control of that port.
 
Swiffness!;c-9717123 said:
Ol Jay's;c-9717104 said:
The_Jackal;c-9717099 said:
Ol Jay's;c-9717085 said:
The_Jackal;c-9717075 said:
Ol Jay's;c-9717047 said:
no footage? , how we know this isn't some pretend attack between Trump and Putin to take attention off the fact these 2 are under investigation

Fools could've shot missiles into a vacant field for all we know

Not to mention he warned Russia before the attack, so they could've easily told Syria to clear out the area

He could have but his follow up actions will determine the truth. If he tries to remove Syria current government it will be in complete contrast to Russia, and Putin already relased a statement on how this strike has server lyrics damaged us-russia relationship.

As far as telling the Russians of course he did. If even one solider was killed by a US sanctioned mission then that's a completely new territory that neither country has witnessed and could completely spiral out of control.

I hear you but I think his actions leading up to this is more telling than anything else he does after this

He told Russia about the planned attack but not congress and his approval rating had recently dropped to 33% & history shows going to war against the bad guy boosts the president approval rating

Time will tell if he directly tries to remove Syria current government then there is no way that I think we can see any logical collusion between Trump and Putin. It would be such a devastating blow to Russia and it plans for the ME, plus the abundance of natural resources.

Also just confirmed six were killed none of them Russian.

Russia doesn't care how they get ahold of Syria, just like US took out Saddam and Iraq still partnered up with Russia regarding the oil there

Russia is already benefiting from this, Russia's economy is solely oil based and to no surprise oil prices went up this morning due to the attack

You know Syria has no oil right lol.

Syria has the Russian Navy's only Mediterranean Sea port, which allows Russia’s warships to refuel without putting up with Turkey's bullshit to reach their Black Sea bases. This is on top of a close, friendly relationship the two countries have maintained throughout 70 years of revolutions and changes in government.

They don't want to "get ahold" of Syria like how the US wanted to colonize Iraq basically.....they just want their mans to survive and keep control of that port.

never said they wanted Syria for oil

 
Ol Jay's;c-9717073 said:
smh @ caring about the Syrian people enough to bomb their country but not enough to allow refugees from there into our country


Exactly and watch his approval ratings get a bump from this bullshit
 
Russian warship heads toward US destroyers after strike on Syria

A Russian warship headed Friday to the area in the eastern Mediterranean where the two US Navy destroyers that launched 59 cruise missiles into Syria were stationed, according to a report.

The frigate Admiral Grigorovich RFS-494 sailed through the Bosphorus Strait from the Black Sea, a US defense official told Fox News.

Also Friday, one of the US destroyers began heading to an undisclosed location to rearm.

A military-diplomatic source in Moscow told the Russian TASS news agency that the Admiral Grigorovich would make a stop at a Syrian base.

“The Russian ship armed with cruise missiles Kalibr will visit the logistics base in Tartus, Syria,” the source said.

The frigate recently replenished its supplies at the Russian city of Novorossiisk and was taking part in a joint exercise with Turkish ships in the Black Sea, TASS reported.

The source said the duration of the ship’s presence off Syria would depend on the situation — but “in any way it will last more than a month.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dmitry-medvedev-syria-response-donald-trump-military-clash

After U.S. Strikes Syria, Russian PM Says It's 'On The Verge Of A Military Clash'

Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said Friday that U.S.-Russia relations were "completely ruined" after U.S. President Donald Trump approved a military strike against a Syrian air field Thursday night, and that the United States was "[o]n the verge of a military clash with Russia."

Russia has supported Syrian President Bashar Assad with airstrikes against civilians, rebel groups and ideological extremists alike in Syria since late 2015.

A Pentagon spokesperson said Thursday, according to CNBC, that "Russian forces were notified in advance of the strike using the established deconfliction line" and "U.S. military planners took precautions to minimize risk to Russian or Syrian personnel located at the airfield."

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Friday that the missile strike was "an act of aggression." The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs also suspended the memorandum of understanding that established the deconfliction channel, by which the two countries U.S. and shared military flight information in order to avoid confrontations or collisions.

Medvedev said Friday that "The last remaining election fog has lifted. Instead of an overworked statement about a joint fight against the biggest enemy, ISIS (the Islamic State), the Trump administration proved that it will fiercely fight the legitimate Syrian government."

"Beyond that is absolute mistrust," he added later. "Which is really sad for our now completely ruined relations. And which is good news for terrorists."

Unnamed senior military officials told the Associated Press on Friday that the Pentagon was looking into whether Russia was involved in what appears to have been a poison gas attack on Tuesday from the Assad regime, which resulted in the deaths of dozens of civilians.

On Wednesday, the Guardian reported, the Russian Defense Ministry claimed that the poison attack was the result of a Syrian airstrike hitting a "terrorist warehouse" full of "toxic substances."

"One more thing," Medvedev's statement concluded. "This military action is a clear indication of the US President’s extreme dependency on the opinion of the Washington establishment, the one that the new president strongly criticized in his inauguration speech. Soon after his victory, I noted that everything would depend on how soon Trump’s election promises would be broken by the existing power machine. It took only two and a half months."
 

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