Trump Launched missile strike against Syria

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fortyacres;c-9716881 said:
I will preface this by saying im not a Trump supporter but...

To those who oppose the military strike , can yall give what other "Pragmatic , Realist and Realtime" alternative options you would rather have for Syria ? and no that kumbayah "make love not war " shit just wont cut it..

your options with both NK and Stria are bad and worse , doing nothing and indecision is not an option here.

What we should do?

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We ain't da gawddamn world police b, know how much money and resources go into war efforts?..

Mufukin highways exploding, flint water still dirty, weed still illegal, massive imprisonment in America, herion epidemic slowly coming back,..

But nah, lets spend billions telling outta mufuckas what to do..look man, for every mean guy you knock off, there's 100 out there more mean than him, and there's just another that's gone take his place..

We been saying peace in the Middle East since in living color, we can't tell dem people what to do..we ain't gawd nigga

 
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SolemnSauce;c-9716984 said:
fortyacres;c-9716881 said:
I will preface this by saying im not a Trump supporter but...

To those who oppose the military strike , can yall give what other "Pragmatic , Realist and Realtime" alternative options you would rather have for Syria ? and no that kumbayah "make love not war " shit just wont cut it..

your options with both NK and Stria are bad and worse , doing nothing and indecision is not an option here.

What we should do?

9epyqt7xa3kd.gif


We ain't da gawddamn world police b, know how much money and resources go into war efforts?..

Mufukin highways exploding, flint water still dirty, weed still illegal, massive imprisonment in America, herion epidemic slowly coming back,..

But nah, lets spend billions telling outta mufuckas what to do..look man, for every mean guy you knock off, there's 100 out there more mean than him, and there's just another that's gone take his place..

We been saying peace in the Middle East since in living color, we can't tell dem people what to do..we ain't gawd nigga

this is a very myopic and idealistic look at foreign policy in my opinion , the more the world is globalized the more that we are all connected , withdrawal off of the world stage is not even an option even if we wanted because WW2 happened.
 
fortyacres;c-9716990 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9716984 said:
fortyacres;c-9716881 said:
I will preface this by saying im not a Trump supporter but...

To those who oppose the military strike , can yall give what other "Pragmatic , Realist and Realtime" alternative options you would rather have for Syria ? and no that kumbayah "make love not war " shit just wont cut it..

your options with both NK and Stria are bad and worse , doing nothing and indecision is not an option here.

What we should do?

9epyqt7xa3kd.gif


We ain't da gawddamn world police b, know how much money and resources go into war efforts?..

Mufukin highways exploding, flint water still dirty, weed still illegal, massive imprisonment in America, herion epidemic slowly coming back,..

But nah, lets spend billions telling outta mufuckas what to do..look man, for every mean guy you knock off, there's 100 out there more mean than him, and there's just another that's gone take his place..

We been saying peace in the Middle East since in living color, we can't tell dem people what to do..we ain't gawd nigga

this is a very myopic and idealistic look at foreign policy in my opinion , the more the world is globalized the more that we are all connected , withdrawal off of the world stage is not even an option even if we wanted because WW2 happened.

Bruh...this man is trying to kill affordable health care. There are parents in America watching their child slowly die or go poor trying to save their lives..

Mufuckin country allowed somone to jack up the price on AIDS drugs and the EPi pen.

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And you honestly think these mufuckas care about kids dying from poison? People being poisoned..some kid walked into an elementary school and let off on maaaaaad children, and these mufuckas said you ain't touching assault rifle laws

This shit for the feel, it ain't real..need not lie to ya self so you can't be lie to
 
Fuck that I popped champagne when I heard this.

Remember all those "B-b-b-but Hillary will lead us to war!" assholes during the election?

Ol' Donny just committed political suicide with them.

Alex Jones 2nd in command said he's done....

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...so he bout to lose dat InfoWars support. (lol I hope Alex Jones hangs himself)

And remember, the Neo-Nazis always opposed "fighting wars for the Jews"....

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....so there goes that!

Shit is beautiful, these white supremacists was crying on the Internet all night bruh

Y'all should have *seen* the reactions on 4chan lmao

This orange cheez-it cracker straight flushed his Alt Right base last night and doomed his shitwreck of a presidency. Rejoice my niggas, Be Glad!

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Lmao when you lose her, who's left? Even that Brexit faggot turned on dude.

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Lmaoooooooooooo White America's having a nervous breakdown because their messiah has betrayed them, somebody break out the meth and opioid pills for these cacs
https://twitter.com/byrdinator/status/850176732871221250

And don't forget:

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http://www.mediaite.com/online/puti...strike-significant-damage-to-us-russian-ties/

Putin Slams Trump After Syria Strike: ‘Significant Damage to US-Russian Ties’

Cosy relations between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin may have soured last night after the United States launched airstrikes against targets in Syria. The attack came in response to a brutal chemical gas attack the country’s dictator, Bashar al-Assad, unleashed on his own people.

President Putin “regards the strikes as aggression against a sovereign nation,” said Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, Russian state media reported, adding that the strike violated international laws and would deal “significant damage to US-Russian ties, which are already in a deplorable state.”

Only last week, Peskov said on Good Morning America that U.S. Russia relations were possibly worse today that even during the Cold War.

The sentiment was also reiterated by Putin’s top diplomat Sergey Lavrov.

“It is an act of aggression under a completely far-fetched pretext,” said Lavrov according to the Russian wire service TASS “This is reminiscent of the situation in 2003, when the US and the UK, along with some of their allies, invaded Iraq without the consent of the UN Security Council and in violation of international law.”

The emerging tensions between Trump and Putin over Syria will likely complicate the popular media narrative of the two leader’s closeness. The Trump 2016 presidential campaign is currently under an FBI and Congressional investigation over ties to Putin’s regime.
 
SolemnSauce;c-9716997 said:
fortyacres;c-9716990 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9716984 said:
fortyacres;c-9716881 said:
I will preface this by saying im not a Trump supporter but...

To those who oppose the military strike , can yall give what other "Pragmatic , Realist and Realtime" alternative options you would rather have for Syria ? and no that kumbayah "make love not war " shit just wont cut it..

your options with both NK and Stria are bad and worse , doing nothing and indecision is not an option here.

What we should do?

9epyqt7xa3kd.gif


We ain't da gawddamn world police b, know how much money and resources go into war efforts?..

Mufukin highways exploding, flint water still dirty, weed still illegal, massive imprisonment in America, herion epidemic slowly coming back,..

But nah, lets spend billions telling outta mufuckas what to do..look man, for every mean guy you knock off, there's 100 out there more mean than him, and there's just another that's gone take his place..

We been saying peace in the Middle East since in living color, we can't tell dem people what to do..we ain't gawd nigga

this is a very myopic and idealistic look at foreign policy in my opinion , the more the world is globalized the more that we are all connected , withdrawal off of the world stage is not even an option even if we wanted because WW2 happened.

Bruh...this man is trying to kill affordable health care. There are parents in America watching their child slowly die or go poor trying to save their lives..

Mufuckin country allowed somone to jack up the price on AIDS drugs and the EPi pen.

vzye0614ay37.jpg


And you honestly think these mufuckas care about kids dying from poison? People being poisoned..some kid walked into an elementary school and let off on maaaaaad children, and these mufuckas said you ain't touching assault rifle laws

This shit for the feel, it ain't real..need not lie to ya self so you can't be lie to

Like i said whether is was Trump or anyone else elected Syria was gonna have to be dealt with and people were not gonna like either outcome because the middle east is Pyrrhic victory . You do realize you can try and attack domestic and foreign policy all at the sametime , that how all governments are supposed to operate, make hopefully smart decisions on multiple fronts and people can criticise one policy and not have a problem with another.

And World War 2 ( really World War 1) precipitated how America engaged with the world as the "world police" that it is today (for better or for worse) gatta read your history my OG.
 
Cut off one head, three heads grow back. Trap and starve it, no heads grow back cause it feeds on itself.

I'm the USA we call it Detroit
 
TheGOAT;c-9716795 said:
Have yall seen those pictures of the kids dying from poison gas. Shits heartbreaking.

That said at same time Trump being against refugees coming to the US is hypocritical.

People are fucked up.

have yiu seen photos of inner city black kids starving or getting killed by police?

shits heartbreaking

 
Black_Samson;c-9716864 said:
BOSSExcellence;c-9716860 said:
Black_Samson;c-9716855 said:
BOSSExcellence;c-9716837 said:
Black_Samson;c-9716827 said:
BOSSExcellence;c-9716812 said:
iunno..

seems hypocritical to me..

yeh its fucked up they usin chemicals.. whoever it is using them.. but death is death..

read it was some 70 people including kids..

shit America bombs places and kill more than that daily.. well not daily.. but u get it..

i knew once the media started postin that shit somethin was go happen.. America aint bombin because of that.. cut the bullshit..

and iv said it before.. ill say it again..

hard for me to give a fuck when we got our own issues at home..

All Death is not the same death.

Geneva convention is in place for a reason,dawg...

at the end of the day u dead..

muthafuckas bombing civilians is okay..

killin them wit gas isnt??

got it.

How you got there is important.

Gas is imperfect and leaves long lasting affects.

A bomb while not perfect is better as collateral damage is minimized and death is swift.

for everybody?? really?? every time??

mannn... may the dead rest..

I am truly saddened..

but America is no fuckin better..

tell urself what the fuck ever to help u sleep better at night..

Telling you the same thing i told max...

I aint posting the shit.

Google the images and find out.

Im talking generations of after effects... Dna altering

kinda like Tuskegee an other experiments done on Americans?

Jim Crow has lasting effects an slavery in our DNA....an they wasn't bombs...

how about MOVE members that was bombed in Philly?
 
Did Trump do the right thing? I'll let yall debate that.

I just want to point something out to you guys. The US attacked Syria because Syria attacked its citizens right? Thats cool. But do yall notice the fact that ever since Trump became president, reports of civilians dying in Iraq from US air strikes has increases?

Well thats not by chance. Thats actually a due to a difference in Trump and Obamas combat policies. The president gets to decide how much potential colleteral damage is acceptable when it comes to approving air strikes. Under Obama, almost no colleteral damage was acceptable. Civilian deaths happened under Obama as well, but they were either due to very high profile targets or due to legitamate mistakes.

Under Trump though, the level of acceptable colleteral damage increased. Trump said if we believe there are terrorist activities, bomb that shit, and it doesnt matter who dies. This is what a president who is in over his head and does not realize the impact of his actions does.

I mean, I get that the media vilifies the people of the middle east. I get it. In some cases they really should be villified. But, if you ask middle easteners why they hate America, they will say cause America has been attacking us for decades. End of the day, they are people just like us. Now what do you think is going to happen to the family members of the 200+ civilians that have been killed in the past 2 weeks from US strikes gonna do? The hate in their hearts will force a portion to become jihadis and join isis, al qeada etc.., a portion who are really smart will plan and join in on attacks on the west, and the most dangerous outcome is the portion of them who are really charismatic will pick up jihadi propaganda and preach it. Cant really blame them cause the US has been fucking the middle east up for a while now.

Obama was weak on Foreign Policy, and made tons of mistakes, but he was probably the only president that did not get caught up in tunnel vision and was able to think about the impact his decisions would have in 5 years before he took action. Thats why he tried to limit civilian casualties so much, all the while trump was talking that lets kill their families shit. Presidents are notorious for showing almost no foresight, so this isnt an implication on Trump. He doing what presidents usually do. I just he wish he wouldnt.

There are many legitimate reasons why the middle east is fucked up. It would be foolish to point at just one factor and say this here is the reason. Its really a complicated situation with many layers. But the cycle of violence where America gets involved and civilians die is one of those factors and Trump is just continuing the cycle.
 
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Plus, there really isnt a legitimate side to support in Syria. Thats tha problem. There is no outcome in which you can say that will be better for America and the West. Thats why America didnt topple Assad. Obama didnt want another Iraq and Afganistan situation in which 10+ years after war, Iraq became Irans lapdog, and the Taliban made a comback in Afganistan.

When America attacks Syria and says that they will work to topple Assad, countries like Turkey, Saudia Arabia, Qatar, UAE get real happy. Anything that makes these countries happy in the middle east will always be a bad decision in the long run. I hope our commander in chief doesnt get conned into some bullshit that will push the agenda of those 4 countries due to his inexperience.
 
And here we go with the why we should care.

Yo no one saying you should grab a gun and go fight in Syria man. And no one is saying you should spend your time, energy, money etc to help Syria, Africa, Latin America or any place.

But damn you could care about this shit in Syria AND about cops killing innocent blacks. You really could. I do it all the time.

Like I half jokingly said in that other thread, i didnt know there was a limit on things a person can be mad and care about.
 
AZTG;c-9717031 said:
Did Trump do the right thing? I'll let yall debate that.

I just want to point something out to you guys. The US attacked Syria because Syria attacked its citizens right? Thats cool. But do yall notice the fact that ever since Trump became president, reports of civilians dying in Iraq from US air strikes has increases?

Well thats not by chance. Thats actually a due to a difference in Trump and Obamas combat policies. The president gets to decide how much potential colleteral damage is acceptable when it comes to approving air strikes. Under Obama, almost no colleteral damage was acceptable. Civilian deaths happened under Obama as well, but they were either due to very high profile targets or due to legitamate mistakes.

Under Trump though, the level of acceptable colleteral damage increased. Trump said if we believe there are terrorist activities, bomb that shit, and it doesnt matter who dies. This is what a president who is in over his head and does not realize the impact of his actions does.

I mean, I get that the media vilifies the people of the middle east. I get it. In some cases they really should be villified. But, if you ask middle easteners why they hate America, they will say cause America has been attacking us for decades. End of the day, they are people just like us. Now what do you think is going to happen to the family members of the 200+ civilians that have been killed in the past 2 weeks from US strikes gonna do? The hate in their hearts will force a portion to become jihadis and join isis, al qeada etc.., a portion who are really smart will plan and join in on attacks on the west, and the most dangerous outcome is the portion of them who are really charismatic will pick up jihadi propaganda and preach it. Cant really blame them cause the US has been fucking the middle east up for a while now.

Obama was weak on Foreign Policy, and made tons of mistakes, but he was probably the only president that did not get caught up in tunnel vision and was able to think about the impact his decisions would have in 5 years before he took action. Thats why he tried to limit civilian casualties so much, all the while trump was talking that lets kill their families shit. Presidents are notorious for showing almost no foresight, so this isnt an implication on Trump. He doing what presidents usually do. I just he wish he wouldnt.

There are many legitimate reasons why the middle east is fucked up. It would be foolish to point at just one factor and say this here is the reason. Its really a complicated situation with many layers. But the cycle of violence where America gets involved and civilians die is one of those factors and Trump is just continuing the cycle.

while I hear what you trying to say about Obama...but he was limited no matter if he wanted to go crazy or not.

they was watching him with a very big microscope
 
AZTG;c-9717035 said:
Plus, there really isnt a legitimate side to support in Syria. Thats tha problem. There is no outcome in which you can say that will be better for America and the West. Thats why America didnt topple Assad. Obama didnt want another Iraq and Afganistan situation in which 10+ years after war, Iraq became Irans lapdog, and the Taliban made a comback in Afganistan.

I think the flooding of 5 million + refugees and alot moving into Europe and some over here, has on some level caused the right wing populist backlash and direct implications on elections that is happening right now.

Most nations like Libya , Iraq , Yemen the effect has been on the most part more an implosion , where as Syria has been an explosion interms of migration and thats why it has become a big unavoidable issue.

 
no footage? , how we know this isn't some pretend attack between Trump and Putin to take attention off the fact these 2 are under investigation

Fools could've shot missiles into a vacant field for all we know

Not to mention he warned Russia before the attack, so they could've easily told Syria to clear out the area
 

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