Trayvon Martin Case.... the plot thickens

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Bando Calrissian;4234894 said:
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if only.

eyyy. that's my shit.
 
playmaker88;4235425 said:
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The Orlando Sentinel consulted two voice experts to try to settle the debate, and both came to the same conclusion: The cries could not have come from George Zimmerman.

One expert, Tom Owen, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman as the source. From the Sentinel:

"I took all of the screams and put those together, and cut out everything else," Owen says.

The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.

"As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," Owen says, stressing that he cannot confirm the voice as Trayvon's, because he didn't have a sample of the teen's voice to compare

Another analyst came to a similar conclusion using different technology.

The voice analysis is the latest piece of information to cast doubt on the narrative, advanced by Zimmerman and his family, that the Neighborhood Watch volunteer was attacked by 17-year-old Travyon Martin. A police video this week showed no blood or bruises on Zimmerman in the aftermath of the incident, while Martin's funeral director said he saw no signs of a struggle on the teen's body

damn you can here the gun shot.... but I read alot of stupid ass arugment in here shit woat
 
the end of the case is the autopsy report

after you die, any signs of struggle are left on your body

A forensic autopsy in the case of a suspicious death differs from a hospital autopsy. Whereas a hospital autopsy is primarily an internal examination of a body for disease, the forensic pathologist doesn’t look only for disease but also for signs of trauma, injury or foreign objects such as bullets, as well as clues to a suspect, to try to determine how and when the death occurred.

The first thing to establish is whether the death was resulted from accidental or homicidal an accident, homicide or natural causes. As someone may later be charged with murder, for example, based on the autopsy results, the evidence from the pathologist must be able to prove the cause of death guilt of the accused beyond reasonable doubt, if at all possible. Therefore the pathologist must be open to all explanations for the death, including those consistent with innocence, and these must be excluded before a finding of guilt can be achieved. For example, where a person has been assaulted and is now dead, it might be natural to think that the assault caused the death. However, that is only one possibility – one that needs to be confirmed beyond reasonable doubt. Another possibility is that the assault was merely incidental or coincidental to the death. The person could have died from a heart defect. The assault may have had nothing to do with the death. The pathologist has to examine (and exclude) any other reasonable alternative, as well as provide positive information which connects the observable injuries with the outcome. A proper chain-of-causation has to be established, so that each of the events leading to the death can be placed in their proper order.
 
bgoat;4239178 said:
It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.

Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..
 
Young-Ice;4239229 said:
Anyone else think there's a chance Zimmerman will take an insanity plea?

Insanity pleas rarely ever work and you have to be utterly batshit loco to even stand a chance. Plus all that gets you is indefinite suspension in a state psych hospital which is arguably even worse than prison especially if you're not really insane.

 
playmaker88;4239234 said:
bgoat;4239178 said:
It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.

Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..

To be honest, I thought they did it to save time in their broadcast. Didn't know they did it to portray a certain image.

 
bgoat;4239451 said:
playmaker88;4239234 said:
bgoat;4239178 said:
It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.

Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..

To be honest, I thought they did it to save time in their broadcast. Didn't know they did it to portray a certain image.

From what i read it seemed like they edited out the dispatchers question on whether the Trayvon was black or white.. and then carried Zimmermans response as if it was a statement. Again not a huge deal in the grand scale of things but its a small big thing..
 
playmaker88;4239473 said:
bgoat;4239451 said:
playmaker88;4239234 said:
bgoat;4239178 said:
It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.

Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..

To be honest, I thought they did it to save time in their broadcast. Didn't know they did it to portray a certain image.

From what i read it seemed like they edited out the dispatchers question on whether the Trayvon was black or white.. and then carried Zimmermans response as if it was a statement. Again not a huge deal in the grand scale of things but its a small big thing..

It shows that NBC is know better than Fox. Blatantly trying to spike up the race angle just for ratings. That's some low ball shit. If Fox did the same thing then folks would be calling for them to shut down. It's just a reminder that none of these channels really give a fuck about the situation but only about how to create profits off the situation.

 
playmaker88;4239234 said:
bgoat;4239178 said:
It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.

Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..

playmaker88;4239473 said:
bgoat;4239451 said:
playmaker88;4239234 said:
bgoat;4239178 said:
It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.

Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..

To be honest, I thought they did it to save time in their broadcast. Didn't know they did it to portray a certain image.

From what i read it seemed like they edited out the dispatchers question on whether the Trayvon was black or white.. and then carried Zimmermans response as if it was a statement. Again not a huge deal in the grand scale of things but its a small big thing..

huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/nbc-news-trayvon-martin-internal-investigation_n_1396442.html

NBC News has launched an internal investigation into a story that ran on the "Today" show about the killing of Florida teenager, Trayvon Martin.

The Washington Post was the first to report news of the investigation.

The internal probe will investigate the editing completed on the audio recording of the 911 call George Zimmerman, the man who shot Martin to death, made to police minutes before he took action. The "Today" version of the call makes it sound as though Zimmerman volunteered the information that Martin was black. In actuality, the 911 officer asked if the "suspicious person" Zimmerman was calling about was "black, white or Hispanic."

The coverage of Martin's case has caused some conservative pundits to criticize the media for rushing to judgment about Zimmerman before necessary facts have surfaced. Ann Coulter compared George Zimmerman critics to the KKK, and Fox News pundit Liz Trotta criticized African American journalists who shared their personal reactions to news of Martin's death.

The omission of the 911 officer's question in "Today's" story paints a significantly different picture. NBC News told the Washington Post that they "launched an internal investigation into the editorial process surrounding this particular story."
 
regardless of whatever NBC did ...seriously doubt zimmerman would have considered trayvon suspicious had he been white

as we all know the night of the shooting zimmerman was taken into custody and brought to the police station in handcuffs, he was essentially arrested.... what did not happen, is that he was not booked, he was not charged, he did not have a mug shot, he was not scheduled for a hearing, he was not given bail, he instead was basically 'unarrested' and simply let go free...

my question is after 176 days even though he was not fully processed could zimmerman's attorneys have the case dismissed on the grounds that since zimmerman was handcuffed, therefore he was technically 'arrested. under florida law, the 'clock would start ticking' on zimmerman's right to a speedy trial under the 6th amendment. florida law states, if a felony trial does not begin within 175 days from the date of a defendants arrest, a motion can be filed to discharge the case...it been 35 days i think since trayvon's murder...

 
playmaker88;4239473 said:
bgoat;4239451 said:
playmaker88;4239234 said:
bgoat;4239178 said:
It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.

Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..

To be honest, I thought they did it to save time in their broadcast. Didn't know they did it to portray a certain image.

From what i read it seemed like they edited out the dispatchers question on whether the Trayvon was black or white.. and then carried Zimmermans response as if it was a statement. Again not a huge deal in the grand scale of things but its a small big thing..

I don't see the controversy here. From day one every news channel here has played the part of the operator asking if the person was white, black or latino. What kind of news yall been watching? And its only natural for the operator to ask so they have a description of the "suspect" before arriving on the scene.
 

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