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Bando Calrissian;4234894 said:![]()
if only.
playmaker88;4235425 said:Code:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSFbdZRb0dc&feature=player_embedded
The Orlando Sentinel consulted two voice experts to try to settle the debate, and both came to the same conclusion: The cries could not have come from George Zimmerman.
One expert, Tom Owen, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman as the source. From the Sentinel:
"I took all of the screams and put those together, and cut out everything else," Owen says.
The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.
"As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," Owen says, stressing that he cannot confirm the voice as Trayvon's, because he didn't have a sample of the teen's voice to compare
Another analyst came to a similar conclusion using different technology.
The voice analysis is the latest piece of information to cast doubt on the narrative, advanced by Zimmerman and his family, that the Neighborhood Watch volunteer was attacked by 17-year-old Travyon Martin. A police video this week showed no blood or bruises on Zimmerman in the aftermath of the incident, while Martin's funeral director said he saw no signs of a struggle on the teen's body
A forensic autopsy in the case of a suspicious death differs from a hospital autopsy. Whereas a hospital autopsy is primarily an internal examination of a body for disease, the forensic pathologist doesn’t look only for disease but also for signs of trauma, injury or foreign objects such as bullets, as well as clues to a suspect, to try to determine how and when the death occurred.
The first thing to establish is whether the death was resulted from accidental or homicidal an accident, homicide or natural causes. As someone may later be charged with murder, for example, based on the autopsy results, the evidence from the pathologist must be able to prove the cause of death guilt of the accused beyond reasonable doubt, if at all possible. Therefore the pathologist must be open to all explanations for the death, including those consistent with innocence, and these must be excluded before a finding of guilt can be achieved. For example, where a person has been assaulted and is now dead, it might be natural to think that the assault caused the death. However, that is only one possibility – one that needs to be confirmed beyond reasonable doubt. Another possibility is that the assault was merely incidental or coincidental to the death. The person could have died from a heart defect. The assault may have had nothing to do with the death. The pathologist has to examine (and exclude) any other reasonable alternative, as well as provide positive information which connects the observable injuries with the outcome. A proper chain-of-causation has to be established, so that each of the events leading to the death can be placed in their proper order.
playmaker88;4239101 said:The whole Nbc doctored 911 tape fiasco is disgusting..
bgoat;4239178 said:It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.
Young-Ice;4239229 said:Anyone else think there's a chance Zimmerman will take an insanity plea?
playmaker88;4239234 said:bgoat;4239178 said:It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.
Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..
bgoat;4239451 said:playmaker88;4239234 said:bgoat;4239178 said:It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.
Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..
To be honest, I thought they did it to save time in their broadcast. Didn't know they did it to portray a certain image.
playmaker88;4239473 said:bgoat;4239451 said:playmaker88;4239234 said:bgoat;4239178 said:It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.
Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..
To be honest, I thought they did it to save time in their broadcast. Didn't know they did it to portray a certain image.
From what i read it seemed like they edited out the dispatchers question on whether the Trayvon was black or white.. and then carried Zimmermans response as if it was a statement. Again not a huge deal in the grand scale of things but its a small big thing..
playmaker88;4239234 said:bgoat;4239178 said:It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.
Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..
playmaker88;4239473 said:bgoat;4239451 said:playmaker88;4239234 said:bgoat;4239178 said:It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.
Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..
To be honest, I thought they did it to save time in their broadcast. Didn't know they did it to portray a certain image.
From what i read it seemed like they edited out the dispatchers question on whether the Trayvon was black or white.. and then carried Zimmermans response as if it was a statement. Again not a huge deal in the grand scale of things but its a small big thing..
NBC News has launched an internal investigation into a story that ran on the "Today" show about the killing of Florida teenager, Trayvon Martin.
The Washington Post was the first to report news of the investigation.
The internal probe will investigate the editing completed on the audio recording of the 911 call George Zimmerman, the man who shot Martin to death, made to police minutes before he took action. The "Today" version of the call makes it sound as though Zimmerman volunteered the information that Martin was black. In actuality, the 911 officer asked if the "suspicious person" Zimmerman was calling about was "black, white or Hispanic."
The coverage of Martin's case has caused some conservative pundits to criticize the media for rushing to judgment about Zimmerman before necessary facts have surfaced. Ann Coulter compared George Zimmerman critics to the KKK, and Fox News pundit Liz Trotta criticized African American journalists who shared their personal reactions to news of Martin's death.
The omission of the 911 officer's question in "Today's" story paints a significantly different picture. NBC News told the Washington Post that they "launched an internal investigation into the editorial process surrounding this particular story."
aneed123;4242386 said:Willie D speakin on it.... He a real cat
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playmaker88;4239473 said:bgoat;4239451 said:playmaker88;4239234 said:bgoat;4239178 said:It's not a big deal to me when I've only listened to the original 911 call.
Oh its not a big deal as far as to the core of what happened my thoughts dont change on that. its just what they are accused of doing it adds an uneccesary element to the public discourse..
To be honest, I thought they did it to save time in their broadcast. Didn't know they did it to portray a certain image.
From what i read it seemed like they edited out the dispatchers question on whether the Trayvon was black or white.. and then carried Zimmermans response as if it was a statement. Again not a huge deal in the grand scale of things but its a small big thing..