Trayvon Martin Case.... the plot thickens

[StillFaggyAF]

All the way back on February 27th, the local Orlando Fox station interviewed the witness who dialed 911. Almost none of the thousands of articles since have mentioned any of the details described by the witness. Some, however, have attributed false statements to this witness. On March 16th, the Sanford police department released new details to the Orlando Sentinel. Once again, these details have been ignored or changed by the media.



The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.

The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.

Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.

Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.



The neighborhood this took place in has seen a lot of crime. Would you be surprised to learn that there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year? In fact, the local homeowners' association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.

In fact the Miami Herald goes on to interview neighbor, Ibrahim Rashada, who is black. Rashada ​confirms that there has been a lot of crime in the neighborhood and indicates to the reporter that the perpetrators are usually black.

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i give no fucks if Zimmerman caught anyone, white black or yellow. Martin was doing nothing illegal.

Read this:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-interviews-witnesses-to-trayvon-martin-shooting/

“So you heard some sort of whining, some sort of commotion outside?” Cooper asked.

“We were in the kitchen, with the window open and the blinds pulled. So we had complete view from outside,” Cutcher explained.

Cooper asked her what was the first thing she saw.

“By that time, you hear like a shot — like some other noise,” Lamilla described.

“You heard the gunshot?” Cooper interjected.

“Yeah, I run away from my backyard and when I just get into the point of my — like my screen, it stopped me, I look at the person on his knees on top of a body,” Lamilla elaborated.

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“So you saw Mr. Zimmerman on top of Trayvon Martin?” Cooper questioned.

“Trayvon, exactly,” Lamilla said.

“When you say on top of, how so?” the CNN anchor pressed.

“Straddling him,” Cutcher replied.

“His legs were straddling him?” Cooper followed up.

“One on each side, on his knees, with his hands on his back. I immediately thought, okay, obviously if it’s the shooter, he would have ran,” Cutcher detailed. “I thought he’s holding the wound, helping the guy taking a pulse, making sure he’s okay. When she called to him three times, everything okay, what’s going on? Each time he looked back, didn’t say anything and then the third time he finally said, ‘just call the police.’”

“But at that time it was so dark,” Lamilla added. “I just saw this person. When she started calling the police, I saw Zimmerman walking with — touching like his hair, like kind of like confused back and forth to the body.”

Lamilla and Cutcher described Zimmerman pacing around the body, following the shooting, and disputed that there was any indication of a fight.

This woman didn't see what happened. All she SAW was zimmerman on top after hearing a shot. She did not see the shot, she heard it. Afterwards Zimmerman could of been on top of Trayvon as he rolled off of him when he died.I wouldn't think he would run after getting into an altercation, firing his weapon, and killing someone. In fact that is what you expect a criminal to do. He more likely would stand around freaking out he just killed someone which seems like whath appened.

I'll take the witness who saw what happened before the gunshot word over this woman. Secondly, according to the police she gave a different account before she went to the media. One guy gives an account before the media circus and publicity and then these women come out after the media circus. Who do you think is going to be more up front about what happened?

By the way, someone found his Twitpic account last night and found some more pictures of the "little bright eyed boy" that we keep seeing in the media. He has some heft to his body frame that again, if him and zimmerman got into a fight he had the potential to put some hurt on zimmerman.

Kind of a desperate attempt to garner more sympathy because they know they can't get as much publicity and mourners for a drug dealing future drop out.

Prove he is a drug dealer...i'll wait.

nobody but a guy named 'john", which no video of exist saw what happened. sounds legit.

You must have been there since you know exactly what Zimmerman did.

I also see you failed to mention the crying for help as well as ignoring how Zimmerman eventually was on top when he shot him. Because the big bad drug dealer was so big and strong why didn't he just beat up Zimmerman and leave?

Face it, your big brother Zimmerman is a coward, racist cunt who deserved to be jailed.

From Trayvon "SLIMM" facebook

Here is his bro reminiscing about smoking with him. So he was a dealing and user.

Raymond Victrum

Bra u gotta tell me wat happen yesterday I knw u didin start nuttin up dere cuz u aint knw nobody damm b ur ole boy should of took u home early sunday morning I jus seen u remember all da times we smoke n I always ask u is u gud b n say im gud lol dat waz to funny u knw we smoke one for u b we had to it was only rite damm I feel how mario feel jus keep watchn ova us b n ur name wont neva die i still dnt believe dis bt r.i.p tray

February 27 at 9:44pm ·

that doesn't prove he is a drug dealer. try again.

 

[apocalyptica]

tired of trolling.

 

[apocalyptica]

tired of trolling.

 

[Copper]

bruh..what are those pics proving?

and the police have already been caught changing reports of what happened that night

They're being posted because people are finding them and realize that this narrative that the media is pushing that this kid had NOTHING about him that could make him seem suspicious is B.S. They know by pushing these photos of him at 12 and 13 on the public is an attempt to create the narrative this was a sweet innocent wouldn't hurt a fly in the world. Its just disgusting and manipulative.

Here is what most likely happen when you take all the emotionally charged bullshit and media circus out of the whole equation. Yes Zimmerman most likely profiled him because his hoodie and being black. However, his description fit the profile of robbery suspects in the area. He became overzealous and chased him down to find out what he was up to however this is not a crime. When he confronted Trayvon, Trayvon reacted how I think anyone would act which is ask him why he was following him. They somehow end up in a confrontation however Trayvon went overboard and was probably trying to beat the living shit out of him. It got to a point where Zimmerman either can let him beat him unconscious or to death or defend himself. End of story.

I find this more probable as we find out that he isn't this quiet suburbanite kid like the media is portraying him to be but most likely your typical ghetto culture following thug wannabe and anyone without bias in favor that culture will tell you that people who typically follow it are quick to anger and violence at the slightest thought of being disrespected.

In short, the media and people protesting are full of shit and doing it to manipulate public sentiment.

pure speculation....stupid unfounded speculation

really ? really ? the nigga that was pursued for no reason by an adult with a loaded gun went overboard.

now trayvon is a wanna be thug thats quick to anger?

you got all this from him being shot in the chest?

Not speculation. "John" Supports it. Trayvon was on top, beating him. Zimmerman was crying for help.

Again, John is a witness who came forward before all this media hype started so he has not really to gain by lying. I'll take his word over the two broads who only came forward after the media hype and who according to the police, they told them a different story before the media hype. Those two chicks were just media whores.


Also once again TRAYVON'S FATHER before the media hype said it wasn't his son crying on tape.

Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.

However, now they are pushing the story it was him. Bullshit.

so you taking some mystery man over two women who show there face and have no vested interests?

you do realize you sound like the exact same person every one thinks zimmerman is right

lol @ them being just "media whores" b/c they dont fit the narrative of your story.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Raymond Victrum

Bra u gotta tell me wat happen yesterday I knw u didin start nuttin up dere cuz u aint knw nobody damm b ur ole boy should of took u home early sunday morning I jus seen u remember all da times we smoke n I always ask u is u gud b n say im gud lol dat waz to funny u knw we smoke one for u b we had to it was only rite damm I feel how mario feel jus keep watchn ova us b n ur name wont neva die i still dnt believe dis bt r.i.p tray

February 27 at 9:44pm ·

that doesn't prove he is a drug dealer. try again.[/quote]

oh ok. I guess they were talking about primulas lol. You see what you want to see. End of story. You're so tied to the bullshit emotions in this case you won't ever see it any other way. However, I'll say that I'm glad that there are people right now working on other forums to uncover the bullshit and help expose the wannebe thug to be what he really was. They'll be more to come in the future definitely.

[/quote]

If you were in a court they would laugh you off for your so called evidence. Emotions please. 75 percent of your posts on this website have to do with this case. Wannabe thug please, no evidence again. What he really was was a person walking down the street. In your mind, this warrants his murder. Face it, your idol George Zimmerman is a murderer not acting in self defense.

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Look at this man. He is clearly a hoodlum/ex con/gangmember.

Note his orange prisoner attire and earring.

All witnesses have identified Zimmerman as wearing red, clearly he was a member of the Bloods.

I know a man named "Fabio" who lives in Sanford who confirmed all of this

 

[lighthearted25]

I lived in a neighborhood where atleast 10 burglaries happened in a month. All by black males, so i should've stayed up late and as soon as I saw a black male, follow and confront him, and if he tried to fight me for following and confronting him, then shoot his ass. Oh okay I got it now.

 

[fiat_money]

I lived in a neighborhood where atleast 10 burglaries happened in a month. All by black males, so i should've stayed up late and as soon as I saw a black male, follow and confront him, and if he tried to fight me for following and confronting him, then shoot his ass. Oh okay I got it now.

Yeh, but you have to do it in Florida to be on the safe side.

 

[desertrain10]

lol - so there's a mystery witness nobody ever heard of who all of a sudden just appears and corroborates the police story?

i wonder if the sandford p.d. is holding open casting calls right now.

A witness is still a witness without doing TV interviews yo; there may be others who only gave statements to the police.

The ABC story mentioned such witnesses about a week ago:

Trayvon Martin Neighborhood Watch Shooting: 911 Tapes Send Mom Crying From Room

To be honest this whole case was fucking botched by the police that if they ever do arrest this guy and bring him to trial his lawyer is going to have a lot of wiggle-room to get that shit thrown out.

The police never really had an interest in witnesses since they never intended to do an investigation or make an arrest.

I think Zimmerman initiated the fight, got his ass beat, and shot Treyvon. When the police got there; there was visible evidence that Zimmerman had just had his shit handed to him, and a witness(es) who confirmed they saw Zimmerman getting the beatdown. At this point, all Zimmerman--who police were familiar with and knew he was on the neighborhood watch--had to do was get the police to think that he was simply out performing his "duty" when attacked by Treyvon.

So with evidence of an ass beating, a witness to an ass beating, and nothing suggesting Zimmerman (who they were positively biased toward) was the aggressor at the time; they concluded that this fell under the "stand your ground" law.

but someone was killed... that alone should warrant a thorough investigation that lasted for more than a couple of hours

zimmerman also has also been the subject of multiple complaints by neighbors for his aggressive behavior and he also has a history of domestic violence and of resisting arrest...

Sure, but the "stand your ground" law prohibits arrests of individuals that appear to meet the requirements:

776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of

force.—

(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is

justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for

the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law

enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of

his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with

any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that

the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal

prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the

defendant

(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of

force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using

force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was

unlawful..

They simply felt he met the requirements and had nothing suggesting that the force was unlawful at the time.

ok, but they told zimmerman not to follow the boy and he did. he got out his car and chased the kid..that alone should have made them question zimmerman's claim he was acting in self defense...

also they didn't even properly question all of the witnesses...and in the initial report there was no mention of zimmerman's head wound or bloody nose...

imho sanford pd fumbled the ball...and are now hiding behide the law to cover their asses

 

[fiat_money]

lol - so there's a mystery witness nobody ever heard of who all of a sudden just appears and corroborates the police story?

i wonder if the sandford p.d. is holding open casting calls right now.

A witness is still a witness without doing TV interviews yo; there may be others who only gave statements to the police.

The ABC story mentioned such witnesses about a week ago:

Trayvon Martin Neighborhood Watch Shooting: 911 Tapes Send Mom Crying From Room

To be honest this whole case was fucking botched by the police that if they ever do arrest this guy and bring him to trial his lawyer is going to have a lot of wiggle-room to get that shit thrown out.

The police never really had an interest in witnesses since they never intended to do an investigation or make an arrest.

I think Zimmerman initiated the fight, got his ass beat, and shot Treyvon. When the police got there; there was visible evidence that Zimmerman had just had his shit handed to him, and a witness(es) who confirmed they saw Zimmerman getting the beatdown. At this point, all Zimmerman--who police were familiar with and knew he was on the neighborhood watch--had to do was get the police to think that he was simply out performing his "duty" when attacked by Treyvon.

So with evidence of an ass beating, a witness to an ass beating, and nothing suggesting Zimmerman (who they were positively biased toward) was the aggressor at the time; they concluded that this fell under the "stand your ground" law.

but someone was killed... that alone should warrant a thorough investigation that lasted for more than a couple of hours

zimmerman also has also been the subject of multiple complaints by neighbors for his aggressive behavior and he also has a history of domestic violence and of resisting arrest...

Sure, but the "stand your ground" law prohibits arrests of individuals that appear to meet the requirements:

776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of

force.—

(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is

justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for

the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law

enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of

his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with

any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that

the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal

prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the

defendant

(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of

force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using

force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was

unlawful..

They simply felt he met the requirements and had nothing suggesting that the force was unlawful at the time.

ok, but they told zimmerman not to follow the boy and he did. he got out his car and chased the kid..that alone should have made them question zimmerman's claim he was acting in self defense...

also they didn't even properly question all of the witnesses...and in the initial report there was no mention of zimmerman's head wound or bloody nose...

imho sanford pd fumbled the ball...and are now hiding behide the law to cover their asses

The bolded isn't explicitly unlawful; so far, the witness statements don't necessarily conflict; and I'm sure the paramedics will be questioned if this goes to trial or by the grand jury.

 

[lighthearted25]

@fiat lol, Florida and Texas.

 

[(ob)Scene]

The bolded isn't explicitly unlawful; so far, the witness statements don't necessarily conflict; and I'm sure the paramedics will be questioned if this goes to trial or by the grand jury.

You're correct that it isn't explicitly unlawful; however, it is more than enough reason for him to be taken into the precinct for further questioning about the events that transpired. This dude went home from the scene of the shooting.

He pursued an unarmed 17yr old who only had skittles, ice tea & a cell phone on his person. That cannot be disputed.

His 911 call was made from inside his own vehicle and Zimmerman told the dispatcher he was following the kid. That cannot be disputed.

The kid was found dead w/ Zimmerman outside of his vehicle.

If I'm an officer IDC about what Zimmerman's "explanation" is. IDC what one witness states. If witnessES at the scene have dissenting accounts of what happened then Zimmerman is going down to the precinct for further questioning and is being held until everything is sorted out. B/c as an officer at that point all I know for FACT is that I have one dead African American male (assuming he didn't have ID on him showing his age).

And all this is before even getting into the fact that the department had Trayvon's phone the entire time & didn't contact anyone in it to notify his family of his death.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

I'm so pro-black I'm sorry but I'mma go with...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frGLMtGsotc

 

[fiat_money]

The bolded isn't explicitly unlawful; so far, the witness statements don't necessarily conflict; and I'm sure the paramedics will be questioned if this goes to trial or by the grand jury.

You're correct that it isn't explicitly unlawful; however, it is more than enough reason for him to be taken into the precinct for further questioning about the events that transpired. This dude went home from the scene of the shooting.

He pursued an unarmed 17yr old who only had skittles, ice tea & a cell phone on his person. That cannot be disputed.

His 911 call was made from inside his own vehicle and Zimmerman told the dispatcher he was following the kid. That cannot be disputed.

The kid was found dead w/ Zimmerman outside of his vehicle.

If I'm an officer IDC about what Zimmerman's "explanation" is. IDC what one witness states. If witnessES at the scene have dissenting accounts of what happened then Zimmerman is going down to the precinct for further questioning and is being held until everything is sorted out. B/c as an officer at that point all I know for FACT is that I have one dead African American male (assuming he didn't have ID on him showing his age).

And all this is before even getting into the fact that the department had Trayvon's phone the entire time & didn't contact anyone in it to notify his family of his death.

As far as I can tell, none of the witnesses had differing accounts. And, as the ABC story suggested, there may have been more witnesses who saw Treyvon whooping Zimmerman's ass.

If that's the case, they would've felt that the use of force was lawful, and the underlined would not have been factors.

 

[Chef_Taylor]

As of today another unarmed black kid killed this time in new orleans louisiana.

 

[VulcanRaven]

lol - so there's a mystery witness nobody ever heard of who all of a sudden just appears and corroborates the police story?

i wonder if the sandford p.d. is holding open casting calls right now.

A witness is still a witness without doing TV interviews yo; there may be others who only gave statements to the police.

The ABC story mentioned such witnesses about a week ago:

Trayvon Martin Neighborhood Watch Shooting: 911 Tapes Send Mom Crying From Room

To be honest this whole case was fucking botched by the police that if they ever do arrest this guy and bring him to trial his lawyer is going to have a lot of wiggle-room to get that shit thrown out.

The police never really had an interest in witnesses since they never intended to do an investigation or make an arrest.

I think Zimmerman initiated the fight, got his ass beat, and shot Treyvon. When the police got there; there was visible evidence that Zimmerman had just had his shit handed to him, and a witness(es) who confirmed they saw Zimmerman getting the beatdown. At this point, all Zimmerman--who police were familiar with and knew he was on the neighborhood watch--had to do was get the police to think that he was simply out performing his "duty" when attacked by Treyvon.

So with evidence of an ass beating, a witness to an ass beating, and nothing suggesting Zimmerman (who they were positively biased toward) was the aggressor at the time; they concluded that this fell under the "stand your ground" law.

You are right about every thing.Zimmerman should not have approached Treyvon,but this was not murder since he obviously had no intention of killing him,but it is manslaughter.So all of the idiots crying racism can shut the fuck up now.Zimmerman should be charged,but not for murder or any hate crime.

 

[VulcanRaven]

I lived in a neighborhood where atleast 10 burglaries happened in a month. All by black males, so i should've stayed up late and as soon as I saw a black male, follow and confront him, and if he tried to fight me for following and confronting him, then shoot his ass. Oh okay I got it now.

Ok I guess you forgot that they actually got into a fight before the shooting.You people are not using any logic.If Zimmerman had the intention of killing Teryvon he would have shot him multiple times without saying a word or risking a fight.Jus admit that you are wrong about this being a murder or a hate crime and let tit go already damn.Case closed.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

lol - so there's a mystery witness nobody ever heard of who all of a sudden just appears and corroborates the police story?

i wonder if the sandford p.d. is holding open casting calls right now.

A witness is still a witness without doing TV interviews yo; there may be others who only gave statements to the police.

The ABC story mentioned such witnesses about a week ago:

Trayvon Martin Neighborhood Watch Shooting: 911 Tapes Send Mom Crying From Room

To be honest this whole case was fucking botched by the police that if they ever do arrest this guy and bring him to trial his lawyer is going to have a lot of wiggle-room to get that shit thrown out.

The police never really had an interest in witnesses since they never intended to do an investigation or make an arrest.

I think Zimmerman initiated the fight, got his ass beat, and shot Treyvon. When the police got there; there was visible evidence that Zimmerman had just had his shit handed to him, and a witness(es) who confirmed they saw Zimmerman getting the beatdown. At this point, all Zimmerman--who police were familiar with and knew he was on the neighborhood watch--had to do was get the police to think that he was simply out performing his "duty" when attacked by Treyvon.

So with evidence of an ass beating, a witness to an ass beating, and nothing suggesting Zimmerman (who they were positively biased toward) was the aggressor at the time; they concluded that this fell under the "stand your ground" law.

You are right about every thing.Zimmerman should not have approached Treyvon,but this was not murder since he obviously had no intention of killing him,but it is manslaughter.So all of the idiots crying racism can shut the fuck up now.Zimmerman should be charged,but not for murder or any hate crime.

 

[aneed123]

lol - so there's a mystery witness nobody ever heard of who all of a sudden just appears and corroborates the police story?

i wonder if the sandford p.d. is holding open casting calls right now.

A witness is still a witness without doing TV interviews yo; there may be others who only gave statements to the police.

The ABC story mentioned such witnesses about a week ago:

Trayvon Martin Neighborhood Watch Shooting: 911 Tapes Send Mom Crying From Room

To be honest this whole case was fucking botched by the police that if they ever do arrest this guy and bring him to trial his lawyer is going to have a lot of wiggle-room to get that shit thrown out.

The police never really had an interest in witnesses since they never intended to do an investigation or make an arrest.

I think Zimmerman initiated the fight, got his ass beat, and shot Treyvon. When the police got there; there was visible evidence that Zimmerman had just had his shit handed to him, and a witness(es) who confirmed they saw Zimmerman getting the beatdown. At this point, all Zimmerman--who police were familiar with and knew he was on the neighborhood watch--had to do was get the police to think that he was simply out performing his "duty" when attacked by Treyvon.

So with evidence of an ass beating, a witness to an ass beating, and nothing suggesting Zimmerman (who they were positively biased toward) was the aggressor at the time; they concluded that this fell under the "stand your ground" law.

You are right about every thing.Zimmerman should not have approached Treyvon,but this was not murder since he obviously had no intention of killing him,but it is manslaughter.So all of the idiots crying racism can shut the fuck up now.Zimmerman should be charged,but not for murder or any hate crime.

naw manslaughter is if u kill some one by accident or if ur intent wasnt to kill.... He followed the kid, initiated the physical confrontation and then shot him. thats not manslaughter. Thats murder.... If I did that to you they would lock my ass up and Id face 25 to life. All this devils advocated bullshit goes out the window once u listen to the tape. He assumed the black kid was a thief or some shit and he followed him after 911 operator told him not to. Shit aint hard to comprehend. In actuality Trevon was protecting himself from a crazed fool and ended up getting murdered.

 

[Chef_Taylor]

Well said aneed...anyone who think zimmerman was the one at risk here is full of shit.

 

[-Vincenzo-]

saw this earlier today...