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Sion;8178260 said:
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Melanin_Enriched ;8175469 said:
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Melanin_Enriched ;8174526 said:
Future gohan from trunks timeline is that nigga. We get left with the fuck boo tho. Literally everyone has to die so we don't get the fuck boi gohan.

present Gohan stronger than Future Gohan tho

You mean the one that gets slapped my frieza henchmen?

That's just bad writing.

Put Gohan in the time chamber and he come out stronger than super Saiyan God mode

Lol no. His "peak" was mystic

Gohan potential is pretty much limitless

He as a child was stronger than Goku and Vegeta as a child

Stronger than both as a ssj and first to go ssj2 so at his rate he will always be stronger than them if he trains at the same rate

I feel like that's is the main difference between half breed saiyans and full breeds. Half breeds have the potential to get stronger than full breeds b/c of their human side but what they lack is the will for battle. That's always been the difference, Goten & Trunks as Gotenks alone should give you an idea of what they're capable of, same for SSJ2 and Mystic Gohan. Vegeta and Goku had the will to get stronger so they never slacked and always kept fighting, they got stronger because of that. The human aspect also helps the half breeds tap into emotions easier which is why Gohan, Trunks and others demonstrated great power when they were angry.

It makes no sense for half breeds to be stronger at all, humans are naturally weaker so mixing them with a stronger race should make them stronger but not stronger than the full breed
 
Melanin_Enriched ;8178070 said:
It was shitty writing to even give this nigga potential. Nigga never developed and was given random power ups to remain in the spotlight. And by your own logic goten and trunks has more potential than gohan.

They do have more potential than Gohan. Where Goku and Vegeta is better is than they are pure warriors and want to keep getting stronger
 
qawshun;8178739 said:
Sion;8178260 said:
vagrant-718;8178012 said:
StoneColdMikey;8177840 said:
Yu
vagrant-718;8176376 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8175469 said:
vagrant-718;8174568 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8174526 said:
Future gohan from trunks timeline is that nigga. We get left with the fuck boo tho. Literally everyone has to die so we don't get the fuck boi gohan.

present Gohan stronger than Future Gohan tho

You mean the one that gets slapped my frieza henchmen?

That's just bad writing.

Put Gohan in the time chamber and he come out stronger than super Saiyan God mode

Lol no. His "peak" was mystic

Gohan potential is pretty much limitless

He as a child was stronger than Goku and Vegeta as a child

Stronger than both as a ssj and first to go ssj2 so at his rate he will always be stronger than them if he trains at the same rate

I feel like that's is the main difference between half breed saiyans and full breeds. Half breeds have the potential to get stronger than full breeds b/c of their human side but what they lack is the will for battle. That's always been the difference, Goten & Trunks as Gotenks alone should give you an idea of what they're capable of, same for SSJ2 and Mystic Gohan. Vegeta and Goku had the will to get stronger so they never slacked and always kept fighting, they got stronger because of that. The human aspect also helps the half breeds tap into emotions easier which is why Gohan, Trunks and others demonstrated great power when they were angry.

It makes no sense for half breeds to be stronger at all, humans are naturally weaker so mixing them with a stronger race should make them stronger but not stronger than the full breed

C/s that's like Superman having a son w Lois and the son has more potential to be/was stronger than Superman, shit sounds retarded and forced by Tori.. It came down to Gohan was his favorite character and wanted him to be the hero....

Even fans didn't fuck w Gohan like that, when Trunks hopped on the scene Gohan became the 4th popular saiyan (he's really 5th if you count Gotenks) and how Dragon ball Super is startin to look he's about to be dead last bc he was a bum in the Frieza movie and Goku looked like he was starting to train Goten in the trailers...
 
blu197;8178991 said:
qawshun;8178739 said:
Sion;8178260 said:
vagrant-718;8178012 said:
StoneColdMikey;8177840 said:
Yu
vagrant-718;8176376 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8175469 said:
vagrant-718;8174568 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8174526 said:
Future gohan from trunks timeline is that nigga. We get left with the fuck boo tho. Literally everyone has to die so we don't get the fuck boi gohan.

present Gohan stronger than Future Gohan tho

You mean the one that gets slapped my frieza henchmen?

That's just bad writing.

Put Gohan in the time chamber and he come out stronger than super Saiyan God mode

Lol no. His "peak" was mystic

Gohan potential is pretty much limitless

He as a child was stronger than Goku and Vegeta as a child

Stronger than both as a ssj and first to go ssj2 so at his rate he will always be stronger than them if he trains at the same rate

I feel like that's is the main difference between half breed saiyans and full breeds. Half breeds have the potential to get stronger than full breeds b/c of their human side but what they lack is the will for battle. That's always been the difference, Goten & Trunks as Gotenks alone should give you an idea of what they're capable of, same for SSJ2 and Mystic Gohan. Vegeta and Goku had the will to get stronger so they never slacked and always kept fighting, they got stronger because of that. The human aspect also helps the half breeds tap into emotions easier which is why Gohan, Trunks and others demonstrated great power when they were angry.

It makes no sense for half breeds to be stronger at all, humans are naturally weaker so mixing them with a stronger race should make them stronger but not stronger than the full breed

C/s that's like Superman having a son w Lois and the son has more potential to be/was stronger than Superman, shit sounds retarded and forced by Tori.. It came down to Gohan was his favorite character and wanted him to be the hero....

Even fans didn't fuck w Gohan like that, when Trunks hopped on the scene Gohan became the 4th popular saiyan (he's really 5th if you count Gotenks) and how Dragon ball Super is startin to look he's about to be dead last bc he was a bum in the Frieza movie and Goku looked like he was starting to train Goten in the trailers...

could be an asian thing. A whole bunch of their heroes be half breed and I think Gohan is #3 in popularity behind Goku and Vegeta
 
qawshun;8178739 said:
Sion;8178260 said:
vagrant-718;8178012 said:
StoneColdMikey;8177840 said:
Yu
vagrant-718;8176376 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8175469 said:
vagrant-718;8174568 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8174526 said:
Future gohan from trunks timeline is that nigga. We get left with the fuck boo tho. Literally everyone has to die so we don't get the fuck boi gohan.

present Gohan stronger than Future Gohan tho

You mean the one that gets slapped my frieza henchmen?

That's just bad writing.

Put Gohan in the time chamber and he come out stronger than super Saiyan God mode

Lol no. His "peak" was mystic

Gohan potential is pretty much limitless

He as a child was stronger than Goku and Vegeta as a child

Stronger than both as a ssj and first to go ssj2 so at his rate he will always be stronger than them if he trains at the same rate

I feel like that's is the main difference between half breed saiyans and full breeds. Half breeds have the potential to get stronger than full breeds b/c of their human side but what they lack is the will for battle. That's always been the difference, Goten & Trunks as Gotenks alone should give you an idea of what they're capable of, same for SSJ2 and Mystic Gohan. Vegeta and Goku had the will to get stronger so they never slacked and always kept fighting, they got stronger because of that. The human aspect also helps the half breeds tap into emotions easier which is why Gohan, Trunks and others demonstrated great power when they were angry.

It makes no sense for half breeds to be stronger at all, humans are naturally weaker so mixing them with a stronger race should make them stronger but not stronger than the full breed

In the beginning of the show, saiyans were considered low class warriors as compared to other aliens, Bardock was like the strongest saiyan and had a power level of like 10,000. Goku and Vegeta were anomalies.

 
IgboNegro;8179341 said:
qawshun;8178739 said:
Sion;8178260 said:
vagrant-718;8178012 said:
StoneColdMikey;8177840 said:
Yu
vagrant-718;8176376 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8175469 said:
vagrant-718;8174568 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8174526 said:
Future gohan from trunks timeline is that nigga. We get left with the fuck boo tho. Literally everyone has to die so we don't get the fuck boi gohan.

present Gohan stronger than Future Gohan tho

You mean the one that gets slapped my frieza henchmen?

That's just bad writing.

Put Gohan in the time chamber and he come out stronger than super Saiyan God mode

Lol no. His "peak" was mystic

Gohan potential is pretty much limitless

He as a child was stronger than Goku and Vegeta as a child

Stronger than both as a ssj and first to go ssj2 so at his rate he will always be stronger than them if he trains at the same rate

I feel like that's is the main difference between half breed saiyans and full breeds. Half breeds have the potential to get stronger than full breeds b/c of their human side but what they lack is the will for battle. That's always been the difference, Goten & Trunks as Gotenks alone should give you an idea of what they're capable of, same for SSJ2 and Mystic Gohan. Vegeta and Goku had the will to get stronger so they never slacked and always kept fighting, they got stronger because of that. The human aspect also helps the half breeds tap into emotions easier which is why Gohan, Trunks and others demonstrated great power when they were angry.

It makes no sense for half breeds to be stronger at all, humans are naturally weaker so mixing them with a stronger race should make them stronger but not stronger than the full breed

In the beginning of the show, saiyans were considered low class warriors as compared to other aliens, Bardock was like the strongest saiyan and had a power level of like 10,000. Goku and Vegeta were anomalies.

I gotta rewatch the beginning cause i don't remember that
 
qawshun;8179380 said:
IgboNegro;8179341 said:
qawshun;8178739 said:
Sion;8178260 said:
vagrant-718;8178012 said:
StoneColdMikey;8177840 said:
Yu
vagrant-718;8176376 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8175469 said:
vagrant-718;8174568 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8174526 said:
Future gohan from trunks timeline is that nigga. We get left with the fuck boo tho. Literally everyone has to die so we don't get the fuck boi gohan.

present Gohan stronger than Future Gohan tho

You mean the one that gets slapped my frieza henchmen?

That's just bad writing.

Put Gohan in the time chamber and he come out stronger than super Saiyan God mode

Lol no. His "peak" was mystic

Gohan potential is pretty much limitless

He as a child was stronger than Goku and Vegeta as a child

Stronger than both as a ssj and first to go ssj2 so at his rate he will always be stronger than them if he trains at the same rate

I feel like that's is the main difference between half breed saiyans and full breeds. Half breeds have the potential to get stronger than full breeds b/c of their human side but what they lack is the will for battle. That's always been the difference, Goten & Trunks as Gotenks alone should give you an idea of what they're capable of, same for SSJ2 and Mystic Gohan. Vegeta and Goku had the will to get stronger so they never slacked and always kept fighting, they got stronger because of that. The human aspect also helps the half breeds tap into emotions easier which is why Gohan, Trunks and others demonstrated great power when they were angry.

It makes no sense for half breeds to be stronger at all, humans are naturally weaker so mixing them with a stronger race should make them stronger but not stronger than the full breed

In the beginning of the show, saiyans were considered low class warriors as compared to other aliens, Bardock was like the strongest saiyan and had a power level of like 10,000. Goku and Vegeta were anomalies.

I gotta rewatch the beginning cause i don't remember that

Yeah, saiyans were never all that strong. Frieza killed all them cuz of their boost in strength when their near death could put them over the top later in the future, not cuz of their stength at the time. And yeah, I literally just finished rewatching the show.
 
IgboNegro;8179396 said:
qawshun;8179380 said:
IgboNegro;8179341 said:
qawshun;8178739 said:
Sion;8178260 said:
vagrant-718;8178012 said:
StoneColdMikey;8177840 said:
Yu
vagrant-718;8176376 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8175469 said:
vagrant-718;8174568 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8174526 said:
Future gohan from trunks timeline is that nigga. We get left with the fuck boo tho. Literally everyone has to die so we don't get the fuck boi gohan.

present Gohan stronger than Future Gohan tho

You mean the one that gets slapped my frieza henchmen?

That's just bad writing.

Put Gohan in the time chamber and he come out stronger than super Saiyan God mode

Lol no. His "peak" was mystic

Gohan potential is pretty much limitless

He as a child was stronger than Goku and Vegeta as a child

Stronger than both as a ssj and first to go ssj2 so at his rate he will always be stronger than them if he trains at the same rate

I feel like that's is the main difference between half breed saiyans and full breeds. Half breeds have the potential to get stronger than full breeds b/c of their human side but what they lack is the will for battle. That's always been the difference, Goten & Trunks as Gotenks alone should give you an idea of what they're capable of, same for SSJ2 and Mystic Gohan. Vegeta and Goku had the will to get stronger so they never slacked and always kept fighting, they got stronger because of that. The human aspect also helps the half breeds tap into emotions easier which is why Gohan, Trunks and others demonstrated great power when they were angry.

It makes no sense for half breeds to be stronger at all, humans are naturally weaker so mixing them with a stronger race should make them stronger but not stronger than the full breed

In the beginning of the show, saiyans were considered low class warriors as compared to other aliens, Bardock was like the strongest saiyan and had a power level of like 10,000. Goku and Vegeta were anomalies.

I gotta rewatch the beginning cause i don't remember that

Yeah, saiyans were never all that strong. Frieza killed all them cuz of their boost in strength when their near death could put them over the top later in the future, not cuz of their stength at the time. And yeah, I literally just finished rewatching the show.

Saiyans were strong, just not the strongest warriors in the universe like they liked to claim. Remember, even in the case of planets with populations of warriors, it only took a handful of Saiyans to clear out the entire planet.

 
blu197;8178991 said:
qawshun;8178739 said:
Sion;8178260 said:
vagrant-718;8178012 said:
StoneColdMikey;8177840 said:
Yu
vagrant-718;8176376 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8175469 said:
vagrant-718;8174568 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8174526 said:
Future gohan from trunks timeline is that nigga. We get left with the fuck boo tho. Literally everyone has to die so we don't get the fuck boi gohan.

present Gohan stronger than Future Gohan tho

You mean the one that gets slapped my frieza henchmen?

That's just bad writing.

Put Gohan in the time chamber and he come out stronger than super Saiyan God mode

Lol no. His "peak" was mystic

Gohan potential is pretty much limitless

He as a child was stronger than Goku and Vegeta as a child

Stronger than both as a ssj and first to go ssj2 so at his rate he will always be stronger than them if he trains at the same rate

I feel like that's is the main difference between half breed saiyans and full breeds. Half breeds have the potential to get stronger than full breeds b/c of their human side but what they lack is the will for battle. That's always been the difference, Goten & Trunks as Gotenks alone should give you an idea of what they're capable of, same for SSJ2 and Mystic Gohan. Vegeta and Goku had the will to get stronger so they never slacked and always kept fighting, they got stronger because of that. The human aspect also helps the half breeds tap into emotions easier which is why Gohan, Trunks and others demonstrated great power when they were angry.

It makes no sense for half breeds to be stronger at all, humans are naturally weaker so mixing them with a stronger race should make them stronger but not stronger than the full breed


Not really. It's actually a regular thing in anime to have half-breeds be stronger than full-breeds.

The the theme being that humans have the advantage of weaponizing their emotions. Grief, anger, sadness, determination are wells of strength.

It was Goku's primary source of power for awhile too. He was raised human so he was able to tap deeper into his powers via his emotions. Goku fighting for sport is usually when he gets beaten down, when he has emotional content hes pretty much unbeatable.

 
IgboNegro;8179341 said:
qawshun;8178739 said:
Sion;8178260 said:
vagrant-718;8178012 said:
StoneColdMikey;8177840 said:
Yu
vagrant-718;8176376 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8175469 said:
vagrant-718;8174568 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8174526 said:
Future gohan from trunks timeline is that nigga. We get left with the fuck boo tho. Literally everyone has to die so we don't get the fuck boi gohan.

present Gohan stronger than Future Gohan tho

You mean the one that gets slapped my frieza henchmen?

That's just bad writing.

Put Gohan in the time chamber and he come out stronger than super Saiyan God mode

Lol no. His "peak" was mystic

Gohan potential is pretty much limitless

He as a child was stronger than Goku and Vegeta as a child

Stronger than both as a ssj and first to go ssj2 so at his rate he will always be stronger than them if he trains at the same rate

I feel like that's is the main difference between half breed saiyans and full breeds. Half breeds have the potential to get stronger than full breeds b/c of their human side but what they lack is the will for battle. That's always been the difference, Goten & Trunks as Gotenks alone should give you an idea of what they're capable of, same for SSJ2 and Mystic Gohan. Vegeta and Goku had the will to get stronger so they never slacked and always kept fighting, they got stronger because of that. The human aspect also helps the half breeds tap into emotions easier which is why Gohan, Trunks and others demonstrated great power when they were angry.

It makes no sense for half breeds to be stronger at all, humans are naturally weaker so mixing them with a stronger race should make them stronger but not stronger than the full breed

In the beginning of the show, saiyans were considered low class warriors as compared to other aliens, Bardock was like the strongest saiyan and had a power level of like 10,000. Goku and Vegeta were anomalies.

Perspective: Yamcha can one shot any human on the planet except Krillin and Tien but hes considered weak.

Nappa was a Saiyan ELITE and relative to even the kid saiyans hes weak as fuck.

The saiyan powers of Bardock's time were relatively pathetic and their true worth was in the oozaru state.
 
And y'all niggas got the Cape on tight af for Toriyama, tryin to find a deep anwser for somethin that isn't deep with y'all explanations on why it makes sense for half saiyans to be stronger than full saiyans (it never will make sense)

Toriyama wasn't thinkin about all that emotion shit y'all talkin about when he said Gohan had the most potential, he didnt explain why Gohan had the most potential he just said it bc Gohan is documented as his personal favorite character and he lives vicouriously through him and its his story....
 
Sion;8179744 said:
problem is trunks' own timeline has passed the buu saga and would be in the middle of gt

Doubt future trunks would've been as strong as video claimed since there wouldn't be any threat after cell was defeated thus no need for him to constantly train like a Saiyan would even in time of peace
 
IgboNegro;8179341 said:
qawshun;8178739 said:
Sion;8178260 said:
vagrant-718;8178012 said:
StoneColdMikey;8177840 said:
Yu
vagrant-718;8176376 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8175469 said:
vagrant-718;8174568 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8174526 said:
Future gohan from trunks timeline is that nigga. We get left with the fuck boo tho. Literally everyone has to die so we don't get the fuck boi gohan.

present Gohan stronger than Future Gohan tho

You mean the one that gets slapped my frieza henchmen?

That's just bad writing.

Put Gohan in the time chamber and he come out stronger than super Saiyan God mode

Lol no. His "peak" was mystic

Gohan potential is pretty much limitless

He as a child was stronger than Goku and Vegeta as a child

Stronger than both as a ssj and first to go ssj2 so at his rate he will always be stronger than them if he trains at the same rate

I feel like that's is the main difference between half breed saiyans and full breeds. Half breeds have the potential to get stronger than full breeds b/c of their human side but what they lack is the will for battle. That's always been the difference, Goten & Trunks as Gotenks alone should give you an idea of what they're capable of, same for SSJ2 and Mystic Gohan. Vegeta and Goku had the will to get stronger so they never slacked and always kept fighting, they got stronger because of that. The human aspect also helps the half breeds tap into emotions easier which is why Gohan, Trunks and others demonstrated great power when they were angry.

It makes no sense for half breeds to be stronger at all, humans are naturally weaker so mixing them with a stronger race should make them stronger but not stronger than the full breed

In the beginning of the show, saiyans were considered low class warriors as compared to other aliens, Bardock was like the strongest saiyan and had a power level of like 10,000. Goku and Vegeta were anomalies.

Your memory is skewed. Bardock was a lower class Saiyan. Goku wad born lower class as well.
 
I just now watched that battle of Gods movie.

I hear the first arcs of Super are basically just going to be revisions of the two god movies.

Oh, and

SSJ

SSJ2

SSJ3

SSJG

SSJGSSJ

How long until we see SSJGSSJ2?
 
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chiyosuke;8179950 said:
IgboNegro;8179341 said:
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Sion;8178260 said:
vagrant-718;8178012 said:
StoneColdMikey;8177840 said:
Yu
vagrant-718;8176376 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8175469 said:
vagrant-718;8174568 said:
Melanin_Enriched ;8174526 said:
Future gohan from trunks timeline is that nigga. We get left with the fuck boo tho. Literally everyone has to die so we don't get the fuck boi gohan.

present Gohan stronger than Future Gohan tho

You mean the one that gets slapped my frieza henchmen?

That's just bad writing.

Put Gohan in the time chamber and he come out stronger than super Saiyan God mode

Lol no. His "peak" was mystic

Gohan potential is pretty much limitless

He as a child was stronger than Goku and Vegeta as a child

Stronger than both as a ssj and first to go ssj2 so at his rate he will always be stronger than them if he trains at the same rate

I feel like that's is the main difference between half breed saiyans and full breeds. Half breeds have the potential to get stronger than full breeds b/c of their human side but what they lack is the will for battle. That's always been the difference, Goten & Trunks as Gotenks alone should give you an idea of what they're capable of, same for SSJ2 and Mystic Gohan. Vegeta and Goku had the will to get stronger so they never slacked and always kept fighting, they got stronger because of that. The human aspect also helps the half breeds tap into emotions easier which is why Gohan, Trunks and others demonstrated great power when they were angry.

It makes no sense for half breeds to be stronger at all, humans are naturally weaker so mixing them with a stronger race should make them stronger but not stronger than the full breed

In the beginning of the show, saiyans were considered low class warriors as compared to other aliens, Bardock was like the strongest saiyan and had a power level of like 10,000. Goku and Vegeta were anomalies.

Your memory is skewed. Bardock was a lower class Saiyan. Goku wad born lower class as well.

Nah man, Although Bardock started off as lower class, he was getting stronger and stronger. He was feared by frieza because he was real close or equal to the strength of King Vegeta, who was the strongest saiyan at the time. Watch the Story of Bardock again.
 
vagrant-718;8179860 said:
Sion;8179744 said:
problem is trunks' own timeline has passed the buu saga and would be in the middle of gt

Doubt future trunks would've been as strong as video claimed since there wouldn't be any threat after cell was defeated thus no need for him to constantly train like a Saiyan would even in time of peace

He probably would've kept training since he's earth's only defense now. Plus what else would he have done besides train and spar?

 
blu197;8179758 said:
And y'all niggas got the Cape on tight af for Toriyama, tryin to find a deep anwser for somethin that isn't deep with y'all explanations on why it makes sense for half saiyans to be stronger than full saiyans (it never will make sense)

Toriyama wasn't thinkin about all that emotion shit y'all talkin about when he said Gohan had the most potential, he didnt explain why Gohan had the most potential he just said it bc Gohan is documented as his personal favorite character and he lives vicouriously through him and its his story....

Does something like that need to be explained? What if the reason he has the most potential is because he is simply the most talented?

(aside from that, yeah, toriyama be on bs, he be forgetting his own characters, plus shit like the dragonballs only having one wish in battle of gods)
 

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