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ghost!;2840564 said:SPIN!! HA ha dog thats all logic and fact right there.....
the fact is biggie didn't respond, he threw rocks and hid his hands, pac spit right in the nigga face.
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ghost!;2840564 said:SPIN!! HA ha dog thats all logic and fact right there.....
tompetrez3;2835806 said:should of could of would of. biggie had a whole summer to reply to hit em up instead he chose a high rise motel in florida to hide in. the fire that Pac had inside of him wouldnt have been put out by no so called lyrical rapper. yall know im the biggest prodigy stan in the globe but even drop a gem on em wasnt shit compared to hit em up.
young_reezy;2840577 said:the fact is biggie didn't respond, he threw rocks and hid his hands, pac spit right in the nigga face.
ghost!;2840650 said:You have a young mind...a smart person doesnt go off just to go off, they get the facts str8 first then go at it..that's why dumb ppl get caught up and shot!
and u feeding into the b.s. that got both rappers shot..look at you "he just threw rocks and hid his hands "
yeah that's why niggas get caught up in b.s.
thats real talk.
nkflier23;2838696 said:[video=youtube;s0MdNFSLlvs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0MdNFSLlvs[/video]
even when they both had time to lay down a verse, Biggie still outshined Pac
young_reezy;2840723 said:i was talkin about after all the dust settled, all we were left with was the music... in those terms biggie responded/didn't respond in his own way...
so all we have to go by is the music.. i didn't root for either of them to die, i knew with everything that was said tho it was a chance that someone would die..
i wanted them both to squash the shit and make good music together...
so you judging my mentality behind this topic we disagree on is great.... good job.
ghost!;2840808 said:and again i ask...how does that mean he shut him up? Because you wanted him to react back or put pac's name in the song like pac did to big...AND I ASK for what? at the end of th eday we lost two ppl off of b.s. and not doing nothing DOESNT MEAN somone shut u up..WHICH WAS WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING...NO PROOF..JUST UR OPINION..
Cain_Marko;2840861 said:you sir sound like a rational person
young_reezy;2840838 said:you know what.... you r exactly right....
biggie responded in his own way and it is what it is...
some people feel like biggie handled his biz... some feel like he got smashed... either way we lost two great artists i just happen to like the way pac put it down musically across the board.... i still appreciate big's talent so it's all good.
ghost!;2840542 said:first off did Big talk ill of the died? IF he didnt, then what's the issue? Pac had misdirected angrier..a smart person lets a fool be a fool. Again i ask you what would of been the point of big acting the same way as pac did on wax?? It's already documented that Big was confused by pac's actions because he had nothing to do with pac's shooting? And faith never f'd pac...soo at the end of the day all of it was just words? What you want big to do..act just like pac for what...that whole beef thing achieved what it did..even without big mentioning his name...so again what was the point?
and 2nd....you got that luda thing from wiki which it proves me more right then you, because you claimed he said the song was about him..in which on wiki he states the song was a SUMBLINIAL shot at the rappers who were talking shots at him..which was going off my orig. premise that LUDA/rappers have done sumbinial joints and you can tell who they are talking about...yeah i did mention t.i., but i never said luda said it....
ghost!;2840905 said:Its all good homie..i respect everything you just post
and i'm with you on your last sentence..no diss to Pac, i think he was the better artist hands down, i just musically like listening to rappers who spit fire more...but i still rock and respect everything pac was and did.
DanknDrank;2841020 said:if you know he was talking about pac in the subliminals then why would you even ask that question
pac had misdirected anger yet he hanging with same person who got him shot and knew about it before hand but did nothing to help him after all the shit he did for him(we won't even go into detail on that) so thats misdirected anger?!....if he can throw shots in interviews & magazines why not take it on wax,
DanknDrank;2841020 said:see now you backtracking, this is hiphop, that battling shit has been apart of it since the beginning...he wasn't confuse he just didn't care, how do know pac didn't fuck faith, do you have any proof of such, better yet how do know faith is telling the truth, what business she had at his hotel room at midnight?, or sneaking him into her limo? or in the studio sitting on his lap?....why would it be hard to believe that a fat lonely faith evans would cheat on a obese biggie smalls after she found him cheating, you say it was all words but those same words hurt biggie inside to the point where he wanted to throttle the mother of his childern(or 2pac's let him tell it)
DanknDrank;2841020 said:no i got that luda thing from bet.com, he also said the same thing on rap city when questioned about it....note that at the time the song came out and at the pre mtv awards t.i. was a special guest in his performance, proof he wasn't talking bout him right there, like i said before his word is worth more than yours, if he lied its bitch shit which surrounds my whole point....subliminals aren't respected or paid anymind in hiphop
ghost!;2841245 said:ooh boy..let me take this b.s. piece by piece...
FIrst off and i'm about to think your gimmick too...Big at no time after he found out Pac died had ever said anything bad of him...plz provide a link that big started talking wreckles after pac died, and last i checked "who shot ya" and "life after death" were both writing and recorded before pac died...so there you go...Big had not talked wreckless about the dead...now on to the misdirected angrier..it was misdirected because BIG had nothing to do with pac getting shot and there is no fact that he knew who shot PAC..there's no sold proof just allegations....so u can not say Big knew pac got shot....and u can use that guilty by association b.s. if u want, but just cuz puff could be shady doesnt mean big was shady too....i dont remember the dude in jail ever saying big knew what was going down...but maybe i need to read that again...
and again NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SPELLED OUT...if you know who he was talking about on wax then there you go, everyone else knew, nobody cares if you think it was a bitch move because out side of this forum..ur opinon doesnt mean anything..big status still remains....thankx..
DO U KNOW if tupac f faith, do you have any proof? No you dont, so dont pose a question to me in which you have no prove of it either..i think it was you that said u believe what another man saids..so u can go on and be the gulliable one, u have no solid proof, but because there's pics of her sitting on his lap..then it has to be true right? cuz nothing could be taken out of context...(sarcasm) ha ha wow!!
and i can't really takeu serious calling big names...ok...yeah we know where u sided wit....(yawn at this dude)
which is basically the same ish on wiki, which ONCE AGAIN YOU SAID HE MADE THE SONG ABOUT HISSELF, which luda said it wasnt about hisself it was directed at the rappers taken shots at him...MAKING YOU WRONG.
and u do realize theres's a time lapse to when a rapper records a song and when we the public gets to hear it???? i hope you do realize that..and during that time they had a on wax beef, but it was deaded shortly after...and again..nobody cares if u dont like subliminals..
cuz they are all over th eplace..and war of the gods was a subliminals..i can bring in the wiki and the quote in which luda said so...so i guess u cant respect luda or the song cuz it was a sublimial
FOH...i'm done with you now
crazy flow, never heard this song lol, lyrics are dope.....if pac flipped on a nigga like this on a song..whoaspit_fiya;2842149 said:[video=youtube;PKNOtfqasis]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKNOtfqasis[/video]
DanknDrank;2841700 said:once again if the you say the subliminals are about him then how can you say he wasn't speaking bad about after he died, he left the subliminals in the album a week before the album came out and a week before he died so what does that tell you? only reason you found out it was about him is because cease said so, if he didn't know who shot him how could he know to warn him about hanging with them, how could he know that pac knew who shot him if he didn't know himself? idc about his status in hiphop, thats not what this is about, if my opinion doesn't matter then what makes your be any better? the same dude you talking bout is also big's friend, it aint hard to connect the dots in that incident unless you refuse to
DanknDrank;2841700 said:dog i think you better read it again.....
"It's about me. That's what the record is about. The record is about me,” Luda told MTV.com.
not only did he say that on mtv but he said it on rap city a week later
of course i realize that, and i hope you realize that the pre mtv awrads was also pre recorded, do the math
so im gulible cause i'll believe the source before a unknown poster? whatever you say my dude
who so angry, why all the insults, ever heard of anger management?? smh