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ghost!;2840327 said:dog that aint saying anything since one Pac keeping trying to throw disses and his little homies were horrible...his diss joints werent all that; in fact the only diss joint was str8 was what he said about dre on "toss em up" other then that, his disses to big wasnt anything special. Nothing against Pac or you. but Really u have Pac in your avi...werent we suppose to expect less ?
Fazeem Blackall;2840332 said:Well damn I love the spin instead of responding to what was said you jump on to some diversionary tactic shit and avoid it entirely take ing shit offtopic you Stans truly are like lil sensitve Bitches. biggie got sonned into silence after starting shit with Who Shot ya and was afraid to bark again till Pac was dead his Wack sub lim disses are never mention in any top 20 diss lists and only his stans think they measure up to any real disses...
ghost!;2840352 said:dude you want more prove? You cold wikipedia the song
luda never came out and said who it was directed to, but he said a lot of rappers were talking shots at him, so he came right back and did the same...so by that definition, that's a diss and a diss song, and a subliminal one at that, which made my point from the beginning about luda doing a subliminal....which i think he was going at T.I. cuz they were going back n forth around that time.
thesynthesis;2840380 said:BIG will forever be known as the nigga who got destroyed by Pac on wax and dissed his own kids instead the nigga who planted the seed of doubt in his head
Cain_Marko;2840344 said:Damn this guy smart as hell....real talk
Cain_Marko;2840398 said:Say word... you dont think nigga be bringing sense to the Reason??
I'm THAT guy...;2835820 said:Does this topic ever get old?
ghost!;2840411 said:like i said at the end of the day...we dont expect you to side with big about tupac n big...and i dont think i ever said anything about my opinion mattering to you...i'm posting and saying what i want to say just like you! See how that works....?
ghost!;2840118 said:what? i can't argue but yet i have been in here, i've drop enough points and all you have given was opinions
the only thing u said was u dont respect subminals..how is that a fact? in what rap circle this is the law? What exactly came out of big not mentioning pac's name?
is big not regraded as one of the goats,is he not looked at as one of the best lyricist ever? Is he not respected? What facts did you kick? Again i asked what was the result of big not mentioning pac's name in a song. i'll tell you..NOTHING! nobody cares because everyone knew, and none of it ever affect bigs status as an artist. So you failed...
keep trying play boy...
young_reezy;2840430 said:like i said earlier in this thread, biggie was a much better storyteller than pac, vivid stories, hella detailed, butjust being real pac put down a demo on them niggaz that was filled with pso much venom niggaz didn't even know if they should respond at all or how to respond even if they do.
ghost!;2840480 said:really? Or could it be Pac had so much misplaced angrier that niggas just let him run his mouth just to run it..i mean it's been well documented that pac angrier was misdirected, and he didnt stop anyone from selling records, or down their status down from rap..so what exactly did he do
Pac was jsut another angry dude..and smart ppl see those type of ppl and let them keep going cuz at the end of the day, they are the ones that look like fools....
it was entertaining though..but at the end of the day..he did nothing but boost record sales..big status still reminded the same.
what E40 and his crew did was more gangsta then anything Pac said on wax...
DanknDrank;2840472 said:wrong i brought quotes from a world renowned hip hop artist which says he does not respect subliminals even though he through them out himself
never said big wasn't regarded as such, the point is he closed his mouth until the man died, and threw subliminals until he died himself that was my whole point...which is proven so how could i fail at stating facts, nobody regard them as disses except die hard biggie fans, those subliminals came & went while hit em up is stiil regarded as one of the hardest diss records of all time, bottom line subliminals aint respected....i can name a group of hiphop artists that been in the game and feels the same way
oh btw heres some proof on the luda claim....
Hip hop fans lit up Internet message boards when Ludacris dropped his very serious “War With God” track. Some fans said Luda’s track was aimed at T.I.. Others said that Luda’s lines were intended for Young Jeezy.
After the heavy speculation, Ludacris is finally revealing who “War With God” was aimed at.
"It's about me. That's what the record is about. The record is about me,” Luda told MTV.com. "A lot of people are saying a lot of things about that record. That record right there is so much more about me being honest about myself. And I feel it's me distinguishing myself from what a lot of the rest of the music industry is doing. I'm tired of being compared.
"Don't compare me to anyone. This is me.”
Ludacris, who’s usually known for his extra witty rhyme style, said he felt compelled to do the serious “War With God” track, after he felt rappers and even journalists were taking subliminal shots at him.
That said, although they haven’t had any communication after the release of “War With God,” Luda went on the record to say that his beef with T.I. was squashed. He said that the two men chopped it up at the MTV Movie Awards recently, as well. He also mentioned that he’s not worried about anyone responding to him.
young_reezy;2840508 said:you can spin that shit how you want to playboy, ok he was angry , livid is more like it... does it matter? does that mean he didn't come for blood cause he was angry? if he had set biggie up like E40 did would that had been better? actually going the extra mile and killin biggie... would that had been better?
whats the logic behind thinkin like that.
