The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

[skpjr78]

its funny how dumb niggas cant deal with FACTS. niggas can argue opinions all day but melt the fuck away when faced with FACTS. they turn into the wicked witch of the west, or maybe east when it comes to hip-hop, when they get hit with FACTS. emotional ass niggas just like some pms ass bitches. smh. niggas cant argue FACTS so they just get mad. lol. lame ass niggas

 

[juelz21]

Okay, I think you're reaching with the last line, Ice Cube influenced 2Pac and everyone even the blind stans realize that. To me, the easiest thing to say is that Scarface gave both Biggie and 2pac their style.

pac was influnced by alot of cats like krs-one rakim ll cool j kool g rap cube was one of them and scarface.

 

[redhandedbandit]

its funny how dumb niggas cant deal with FACTS. niggas can argue opinions all day but melt the fuck away when faced with FACTS. they turn into the wicked witch of the west, or maybe east when it comes to hip-hop, when they get hit with FACTS. emotional ass niggas just like some pms ass bitches. smh. niggas cant argue FACTS so they just get mad. lol. lame ass niggas

dude cuz tupac said some shit dont make it a fact

 

[Ishi]

its funny how dumb niggas cant deal with FACTS. niggas can argue opinions all day but melt the fuck away when faced with FACTS. they turn into the wicked witch of the west, or maybe east when it comes to hip-hop, when they get hit with FACTS. emotional ass niggas just like some pms ass bitches. smh. niggas cant argue FACTS so they just get mad. lol. lame ass niggas

You haven't gave facts bruh you just gave your biased opinions on Big and Jay and how it all went down and you gave a couple videos of a Pac that has been shot and has a grudge against the man that he think had something to do with it (BIG) so of course hes gonna say this and that foul against him but those comments weren't being said when they were boys.

The only real fact you even pointed out was one we all know which Pac helped a up and coming rapper even let him get on stage with him they were boys Pac helped him thats the only fact you have said.

 

[rapmastermind]

LOL @ "You can't compare AEOM to LAD" when "Life After Death" sold more records. Also how was "AEOM" the better produced album? I'll take "LAD" producers over "AEOM" producers any day of the week.

LAD's Producers:

DJ PREMIER
RZA
KAY GEE
THE HIT MEN (Puffy, (D. Dot, Carlos Brody, Nashim Mavrick, Stevie J)
Chucky Thompson
Buckwild
Havoc
Easy Mo Bee
Clark Kent

AEOM's Producers:

Dr. Dre
Johnny J
DJ Quick
Daz Dillenger
Mike Mosley
Devante Swing
Rick Rock
QD3
DJ Pooh
Doug Rasheed

It's clear Biggie's album was the better produced LP.

 

[ChuckieInDaMurderAve]

LOL @ "You can't compare AEOM to LAD" when "Life After Death" sold more records. Also how was "AEOM" the better produced album? I'll take "LAD" producers over "AEOM" producers any day of the week.

LAD's Producers:

DJ PREMIER

PREMO

KAY GEE

THE HIT MEN (Puffy, (D. Dot, Carlos Brody, Nashim Mavrick, Stevie J)

Chucky Thompson

Buckwild

Havoc

Easy Mo Bee

Clark Kent

AEOM Production:

Dr. Dre

Johnny J

DJ Quick

Daz Dillenger

Mike Mosley

Devante Swing

Rick Rock

QD3

DJ Pooh

Doug Rasheed

It's clear Biggie's album was the better produced LP.

Dr. Dre, DJ Quik > everyone on Biggie's album except Premo.

 

[playmaker88]

Lol..........

 

[skpjr78]

dude cuz tupac said some shit dont make it a fact

anybody can open there mouth and say whatever they want. it doesnt become FACT unless there is undeniable action to prove what the person said as true. pac said that big stole his stole. listen 2 what the man said and compare that 2 what actually happened. pac dropped brenda' got a baby, keep ur head up, and i get around. all female centric songs and he blew up. he put that bug in bigs ear and then all of the sudden big switched from party and bullshit to big poppa. FACT!!! the biggest rappers in nyc b4 big came out was lame ass backpack rapping ass niggas. tribe, leaders of the new, and all that shit. even nas was on that backpack shit. nobody was screaming that thug shit. then pac blew and all of the sudden big is frank white and shit. FACT!!! listen 2 his words and look at the actions. this shit indisputable.

accept FACTS 4 what they are. just b/c u dont like the TRUTH doesnt make it anyless TRUE!!! stop being emotional and accept FACTS for what they are. old emotional, hurt feelings ass niggas. yall niggas sound like funk flex with this im allegeric to FACT and i want to rewrite history bullshit. gtfoh w/that shit.

 

[rapmastermind]

Dr. Dre, DJ Quik > everyone on Biggie's album except Premo.

Premo, Rza, Easy Mo Bee and Havoc > Dre Dre and Quick aren't enough

 

[Hobe cryant]

Its a fact that all eyez on me is wack and its another fact that death certificate is better than any album pac made

Niggas act like krs one and ice cube aint have concious social songs before pac.

Threads like these expose dickriders and cats who have no idea about the rap game

 

[Ishi]

Its a fact that all eyez on me is wack and its another fact that death certificate is better than any album pac made

Niggas act like krs one and ice cube aint have concious social songs before pac.

Threads like these expose dickriders and cats who have no idea about the rap game

AEOM isn't whack it has some dope tracks and alot of decent ones its just over packed for my liking thats why i traded it for my boys copy of MATW. But i agree DC is better than most of the albums Pac made.

 

[ChuckieInDaMurderAve]

Premo, Rza, Easy Mo Bee and Havoc > Dre Dre and Quick aren't enough

It depends on the sound you prefer, I'd rather listen to some west coast funk so I'll rather have a Dr. Dre, DJ Quik, DJ Pooh, QDIII or Daz beat over something by any of the east coast producers minus Premo.

 

[skpjr78]

LOL @ "You can't compare AEOM to LAD" when "Life After Death" sold more records. Also how was "AEOM" the better produced album? I'll take "LAD" producers over "AEOM" producers any day of the week.

LAD's Producers:

DJ PREMIER

RZA

KAY GEE

THE HIT MEN (Puffy, (D. Dot, Carlos Brody, Nashim Mavrick, Stevie J)

Chucky Thompson

Buckwild

Havoc

Easy Mo Bee

Clark Kent

AEOM's Producers:

Dr. Dre

Johnny J

DJ Quick

Daz Dillenger

Mike Mosley

Devante Swing

Rick Rock

QD3

DJ PoohDoug Rasheed

It's clear Biggie's album was the better produced LP.

r u serious???????? wtf?!?!?!?!? dude u lost as soon as wrote dr. dre. dre alone crushes every other producer in the history of hip-hop and kills ur arguement by himself!!!!!!!!! u lost with ur 1st comnparision. east, west, south, anywhere u cant name any1 how has had a longer, more respected, more influential, and more consistent career than dre. just look at all of the artist he worked with. i wont even waste time listing b/c u already know who they are.

and then u got daz, quik, qd3, etc. u just made my point for me. do u know how many hits devante has made??? dj pooh. come on man. johnny j. dude had that fire 4 years. wtf r u talking about?!?!?!?!? do u know who qd3's father is? he was born 2 be a producer. everybody u just listed was the goat producer on the west coast back then and THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT WEST COAST SOUND RULED THE 90'S AND CRUSHED ANYTHING OUTTA NYC!!! NO FUCKING DOUBT AT ALL. while nyc niggas was making shitty as boom bap pots and pans type beats niggas like ant banks, studio tone, and every body else u previously listed were making history. next thing i know u will be trying 2 compare the success of bad boy to death row at its peak. there is no comparision. get ur feelings outta the way nigga. deal in FACTS!!!!!!!!

 

[Hobe cryant]

Aeom is wack to me always has been

Besides ambitionz of a ridah,no more pain,all eyez on me,shorty wanna be a thug,and one more song that I cant even remember

27 tracks wit 6-7 good ones is a horrible cd

Pacs best cd is makaveli and death certificate>>>>>>7 day theory

 

[Knives Amilli]

WTF does Pac being a "threat" to conservatives have anything to do with anything? Shit if that was the case 2 Live Crew has a bid for GOAT-ness.

Secondly, fuck outta here with "Big never inspired anybody". Jay-Z is pretty much the spiritual successor to Big and Hov is (like it or not) one of the biggest inspiration to the more "lyrical" acts of this generation. Meanwhile, the only 3 imo to ever really be inspired by Pac clearly (or at least were coasting off of his image) were DMX (its clear he was meant to be a grimier East Coast pac in image), Ja (image), and 50 (he the millennial UberThug to Pac's 90's UberThug).

Did Pac have more varied subject matter? I think its no contest. But Ive never liked the notion that rappers should automatically get a bid over others for content. It gets to the point where niggas are getting brownie points for bullshit, but shit at least its "DIFFERENT" bullshit!! It's half the reason why the Grammy's is ass when rating Hip Hop content.

Lyrically, your out your fucking mind if Biggie wasn't the superior lyricist. I think the "Hennessy, enemies" label of Pac's lyrical ability is a bit exaggerated, but Pac was extremely repetitive in his vocab. He still had some surprisingly stellar verses though. Just Biggie had mindblowing verses. His wordplay and flow TO THIS DAY are nigh untouchable.

 

[..Menace..]

Aeom is wack to me always has been

Besides ambitionz of a ridah,no more pain,all eyez on me,shorty wanna be a thug,and one more song that I cant even remember

27 tracks wit 6-7 good ones is a horrible cd

Pacs best cd is makaveli and death certificate>>>>>>7 day theory

you fucking trippin AEOM is far from being whack its a classic.
and i like cube but no way DC is better then 7DT

 

[a_list]

lol i feel another titan-gragh is moments away

 

[ChuckieInDaMurderAve]

Aeom is wack to me always has been

Besides ambitionz of a ridah,no more pain,all eyez on me,shorty wanna be a thug,and one more song that I cant even remember

27 tracks wit 6-7 good ones is a horrible cd

Pacs best cd is makaveli and death certificate>>>>>>7 day theory

There are plenty of good songs on AEOM. At least you're mentioning "Shorty Wanna Be a Thug" so that's alright but there are more than just those songs. "Can't C Me", "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted", "I Ain't Mad at Cha", "Got My Mind Made Up", "Life Goes On" are all dope besides the ones you mention but yeah you're right that AEOM has plenty of filler. (Disc 2 specially)

And why you keep mentioning Death Certificate? I think it's the best hip-hop album ever and all but what does it have to do with this topic though?

 

[redhandedbandit]

anybody can open there mouth and say whatever they want. it doesnt become FACT unless there is undeniable action to prove what the person said as true. pac said that big stole his stole. listen 2 what the man said and compare that 2 what actually happened. pac dropped brenda' got a baby, keep ur head up, and i get around. all female centric songs and he blew up. he put that bug in bigs ear and then all of the sudden big switched from party and bullshit to big poppa. FACT!!! the biggest rappers in nyc b4 big came out was lame ass backpack rapping ass niggas. tribe, leaders of the new, and all that shit. even nas was on that backpack shit. nobody was screaming that thug shit. then pac blew and all of the sudden big is frank white and shit. FACT!!! listen 2 his words and look at the actions. this shit indisputable.

accept FACTS 4 what they are. just b/c u dont like the TRUTH doesnt make it anyless TRUE!!! stop being emotional and accept FACTS for what they are. old emotional, hurt feelings ass niggas. yall niggas sound like funk flex with this im allegeric to FACT and i want to rewrite history bullshit. gtfoh w/that shit.

dude thats all he got from pac all pac said was make sure you make some songs for the ladies i already knew that. big had like 1 or 2 songs for the ladies..u the one catching feelings with all the exclamation points bolded etc.. majority of bigs shit was east coat gutter shit...mop was making gutter shit since 93 wu in 94 you acting like the whole east was on some back pack shit mtv was on some back pack shit not east coast hip hop

 

[skpjr78]

There are plenty of good songs on AEOM. At least you're mentioning "Shorty Wanna Be a Thug" so that's alright but there are more than just those songs. "Can't C Me", "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted", "I Ain't Mad at Cha", "Got My Mind Made Up", "Life Goes On" are all dope besides the ones you mention but yeah you're right that AEOM has plenty of filler. (Disc 2 specially)

And why you keep mentioning Death Certificate? I think it's the best hip-hop album ever and all but what does it have to do with this topic though?

dont waste ur time arguing with this guy. he is 1 of these characters who just wants 2 make a point. old shock jock ass nigga. he just wanna say some crazy outlandish type shit to get attention. just ignore this guy.