The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

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Even though I'm from BK I rank Pac ahead of BIG on my GOAT so I'm not biased in any way but I cant c/s this. WTF does emotion, subject matter, passion, etc. have to do w/ technical abilities?

For example: Kobe Bryant is my favorite player so by extension Imma Laker fan. I think Ron Artest plays harder than & w/ more heart than anyone on the team. He does the dirty work (rebound, guard the other teams best player, etc.), but he's still not more skilled than Kobe & it's not even arguable IMO. Same shit here.
 
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Ishi;1768489 said:
I agree He is one of the most if not the most influence rapper of all time. He didn't birth my favorite rapper (Nas) but he did influence him later in his career. Nas saw what was in his music even how contradictory it may be at times he had heart and a voice that connected to alot of peoples struggles and he said what he felt he didn't give you the bs run down and i think that overshadows his average lyrically ability and i think it should to a certain point but people just ride him so hard.

wtf r u talking a bout man. pac birthed nas 10 times over. nas wasnt screaming no thug shit until AFTER pac came out. i loved illmatic and nas wasnt on that thug shit at all. it wasnt until pac blew up w/thug life and showed his tat on mtv that nas and them niggas jumped on his dick. look at nas now. that nigga nas runnin around with a pac like tatto on his stomach now and u claim that pac didnt birth him?!?!?!?!?! nigga be serious!!!!! nas was a backpack rapper. he was on some leaders of the new school shit with more of a qb mindset. he wasnt poppin that thug shit until pac made it safe. gtfoh dude. u dont have a clue what u r talking about man. sit down, shut up, and listen to this shit. this might help u get ur mind right.

[video=youtube;Oxu-KjoQpa8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxu-KjoQpa8[/video]

^^^at least now i know why u catch feelings over pac. i guess it hdented ur pride to see ur favorite mc get mopped and waxed over and over again. dont know what 2 tell u homie but the truth usually hurts.
 
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Ishi;1767824 said:
Carrying beefs of dead men are pointless listen to the music and judge cause at the moment i can tell your like Pac said fuck Chino so FUUUCCCK CHINO....

[video=youtube;TM6itMg9nGg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM6itMg9nGg&feature=related[/video]

I didnt know who chino was until pac dissed him but thats a good song.
 
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skpjr78;1768696 said:
[video=youtube;jLe27xemg-8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLe27xemg-8&feature=related[/video]

^^^big WAS pac's disiple. know what u r talking about b4 u open ur fucking mouth!!!!!!! real talk nigga. FACTS!!!!! fuck ur opinion. this shit is FACT.

pac is the 1 who bought big into the game. puff signed him but pac gave him his shine and coached him. if not 4 pac vouching for that nigga and giving him the rules of the game he would have been puff's next heavy d or something. pac let big open for him and do shows b4 any1 in nyc knew who the fuck he was. nyc niggas talking all that we love big shit but if not 4 pac no1 would have heard of him. pac coached him and told him how 2 spit and what types of songs to make. big went from another typical east coast grimmy nigga on some party and bullshit type of shit to big poppa overnight. pac put him onto that shit not puff. and he damn sure didnt come up with it himself. big was pac's DISCIPLE and PROTEGE!!!! FACT nigga. all FACTS.

who was he gonna listen to puff?????? u see what puff did to father mc and craig mack. puff already had big set up to be the first mase. puff will tell u himself that he was looking for a lightskinned, good hair, ll cool j type, crossover artist who was easy on the eyes. he was determined to turn big into heavy fucking d. FACTS!!! puff already had that nigga pigeon holed on some pop shit. if not for pac puff would have had that fat nigga in shinny suits 3 years b4 mase.

pac coached that nigga and showed him what to do in the rap game. keep in mind that no1 in nyc ever heard of the nigga. pac is the 1 who gave him some shine. so yes big was pac's DISCIPLE. get mad all u want but it cant change the FACTS.

Besides your post proving you dislike B.I.G and you likeing to over exaggerate the truth what does you post prove? Yes Pac helped a up and coming rapper by doing things people in his position often do to help up and coming rappers? Yes Pac showed him love sharing the stage with the cat putting him on to new experiences in the game Your logic makes it seem like a nigga from Brooklyn can't be a gangsta rapper in the 90s without coping Pac.

Keep hating bruh
 
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Ishi;1768839 said:
Besides your post proving you dislike B.I.G and you likeing to over exaggerate the truth what does you post prove? Yes Pac helped a up and coming rapper by doing things people in his position often do to help up and coming rappers? Yes Pac showed him love sharing the stage with the cat putting him on to new experiences in the game Your logic makes it seem like a nigga from Brooklyn can't be a gangsta rapper in the 90s without coping Pac.

Keep hating bruh

so thats all u got???? i just hit u with indisputable facts and all you can give me in return is "Keep hating bruh"???? thats all u got??? nothing else. when niggas run outta of ammo and reality smacks them in the face all they can do is play the hate card. fucking loser. i guess im hating if i tell the truth. i guess im only cool if i sit down, shut up, and just accept all of bullshit. dog i gave u FACTS!!! all u can give me is "Keep hating bruh".

nigga please. u aint on my level homie. stick to mtv, radio, and other pop culture approved forms of entertainment. leave the real to the cats who know what it is. pop that bullshit to one of the psuedo wanna be hip-hop thugs or something. call me when u learn what reality is and how to handle it. unknowing ass nigga. "Keep hating bruh" nigga please.
 
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skpjr78;1768866 said:
so thats all u got???? i just hit u with indisputable facts and all you can give me in return is "Keep hating bruh"???? thats all u got??? nothing else. when niggas run outta of ammo and reality smacks them in the face all they can do is play the hate card. fucking loser. i guess im hating if i tell the truth. i guess im only cool if i sit down, shut up, and just accept all of bullshit. dog i gave u FACTS!!! all u can give me is "Keep hating bruh".

nigga please. u aint on my level homie. stick to mtv, radio, and other pop culture approved forms of entertainment. leave the real to the cats who know what it is. pop that bullshit to one of the psuedo wanna be hip-hop thugs or something. call me when u learn what reality is and how to handle it. unknowing ass nigga. "Keep hating bruh" nigga please.

wowzers
this nigga is wildin the fuck out
 
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skpjr78;1768866 said:
so thats all u got???? i just hit u with indisputable facts and all you can give me in return is "Keep hating bruh"???? thats all u got??? nothing else. when niggas run outta of ammo and reality smacks them in the face all they can do is play the hate card. fucking loser. i guess im hating if i tell the truth. i guess im only cool if i sit down, shut up, and just accept all of bullshit. dog i gave u FACTS!!! all u can give me is "Keep hating bruh".

nigga please. u aint on my level homie. stick to mtv, radio, and other pop culture approved forms of entertainment. leave the real to the cats who know what it is. pop that bullshit to one of the psuedo wanna be hip-hop thugs or something. call me when u learn what reality is and how to handle it. unknowing ass nigga. "Keep hating bruh" nigga please.

thank u thank u thank u u are my favorite poster on here skpjr
 
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juelz21;1768881 said:
shut up u bitch ass nigga

damn
niggas is mad
this nigga bout to fall out his wheelchair cryin cuz pac was an average lyricist
you bout to slit your wrists cuz "bone/home/chrome" ain't a multisyllabled rhyme
sheesh
i thought u was bout to watch a movie, skip bayless lookin ass nigga?
fuck u still here for?
 
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BackInWhite;1768884 said:
damn

niggas is mad

this nigga bout to fall out his wheelchair cryin cuz pac was an average lyricist

you bout to slit your wrists cuz "bone/home/chrome" ain't a multisyllabled rhyme

sheesh

i thought u was bout to watch a movie, skip bayless lookin ass nigga?

fuck u still here for?
n1gga u still mad cause disproved your stupid ass with facts. nigga u don't even know what i look like u idiot and u never will u homo judging another mans looks.
 
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juelz21;1768890 said:
n1gga u still mad cause disproved your stupid ass with facts. nigga u don't even know what i look like u idiot and u never will u homo judging another mans looks.

i ain't mad cuz you ain't prove shit but how fuckin stupid you are
even skipjr, who's dick you're so gently suckling upon, will tell yo dumb ass that holler and bleed don't rhyme
they never have, and never will
in no shape, form, or fashion
you're just a stupid, delirious, delusional, pac dick rider
at least yo boyfriend ain't makin shit up to prove his point
you on the other hand are blatantly lying
go eat ur mother's pussy, nigga
 
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BackInWhite;1768873 said:
wowzers

this nigga is wildin the fuck out

somebody has to tell the truth man. all of these commercialized, pop culture, 99% less than real type niggas kill me when they try to rewrite history. like real niggas are just supposed to sit back and accept obvious bullshit. just keep it real man. everything i gave u was fact straight from the horses mouth. and now that ur feelings are hurt b/c i wont go along w/ur well known and obvious bullshit im wrong. thats like a nigga getting mad b/c i wont buy an obvious fake louie bag or something from him. why u mad at me??? we both know the shit is fake!!!!! dont get mad at me for exposing fake shit. get mad at urself 4 knowingly accepting it.
 
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emceemurda;1768772 said:
So Big goat of hip-hop (argueable) - rappers like rakim, nas jay-z,etc

pac goat of rap (arguable) - rappers like ti, master P,young jeezy,trick daddy, DMX, ja- rule.etc

Cosign

bull6599;1768783 said:
WTF does emotion, subject matter, passion, etc. have to do w/ technical abilities?

Absolutely nothing.Its a defense mechanism pac dickriders use when their argument about mc skills gets obliterated

They cant accept the fact tupac is mediocre and so they talk about irrelevant non sense like emotion
 
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BackInWhite;1768897 said:
i ain't mad cuz you ain't prove shit but how fuckin stupid you are

even skipjr, who's dick you're so gently suckling upon, will tell yo dumb ass that holler and bleed don't rhyme

they never have, and never will

in no shape, form, or fashion

you're just a stupid, delirious, delusional, pac dick rider

at least yo boyfriend ain't makin shit up to prove his point

you on the other hand are blatantly lying

go eat ur mother's pussy, nigga

breh this whole sh1t don't make any sense lol im laughing at you holler and bleed rhyme always has and always will. u just living in your fantasie land
 
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skpjr78;1768866 said:
so thats all u got???? i just hit u with indisputable facts and all you can give me in return is "Keep hating bruh"???? thats all u got??? nothing else. when niggas run outta of ammo and reality smacks them in the face all they can do is play the hate card. fucking loser. i guess im hating if i tell the truth. i guess im only cool if i sit down, shut up, and just accept all of bullshit. dog i gave u FACTS!!! all u can give me is "Keep hating bruh".

nigga please. u aint on my level homie. stick to mtv, radio, and other pop culture approved forms of entertainment. leave the real to the cats who know what it is. pop that bullshit to one of the psuedo wanna be hip-hop thugs or something. call me when u learn what reality is and how to handle it. unknowing ass nigga. "Keep hating bruh" nigga please.

Lol What facts? Don't start sounding like Juelz and throw around your opinion or what another man says after he thinks that man tried to kill him. Oh and I'm just as hip hop as you if not more I respect your Malcolm and Muhammad ava but thats about it if you can't respect my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOneIshi?feature=mhum
 
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Fazeem Blackall;1768200 said:
PAc is in my Top 6 but the fact so many stans and Functional retards are rallying behind him hurts him(SKip and Chuckie does not fall into either category) and everyone on this board knows how I feel about Biggie. that said stop all the fucking tupac threads damn it wait till there is a new album aniversary or some shit...
this is my last piece of support for this bullshit thread I implore any sane kats to let it die a natural death...
 
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juelz21;1768912 said:
breh this whole sh1t don't make any sense lol im laughing at you holler and bleed rhyme always has and always will. u just living in your fantasie land

you laughin at me cuz i keep responding to an obvious retarded nigga
you over there like, "i'm retarded and he talkin to me tehehehehe, i look like bobby hill cuz of my down syndrome but i got a friend tehehehe!!"
ima stop tho, nigga
i don't want my kids to look like you
 
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BackInWhite;1768938 said:
you laughin at me cuz i keep responding to an obvious retarded nigga

you over there like, "i'm retarded and he talkin to me tehehehehe, i look like bobby hill cuz of my down syndrome but i got a friend tehehehe!!"

ima stop tho, nigga

i don't want my kids to look like you

everything u said is qouteable you are one funny dude and even the more funny things is your serious.
 
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